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I just have wonder this looong time..
Is there any real APK players/factions ingame, all I have heard APK is C88 (Also heard many bad things about them) and TTTLA (Also.. bad things)
If those 2 aren't APK what is APK then!?
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no apk for you today, just gore death rage and pk for us! (i didn't mentioned trolls yet)
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TSAR and TGRT (the grey rock tribe) are only true anti-pkish factions i know personally.
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TSAR and TGRT (the grey rock tribe) are only true anti-pkish factions i know personally.
I was also in TGRT long time ago when I was still welcome to factions.
I don't remember though almost anything.. :/
But members was friends for everyone inside faction, unlike many other factions I have been in..
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No one can do bad by having fun in this game , unless you think the right way is to spend all your time in a cave crafting and teaching new players , that is the subject i won't touch furthermore.
" apk " better let's say " peacekeepers " are too poor to fight. No really. :)
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there is no such a thing as Apk, its just your own Mind that makes you shoot other or not to shoot.
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We, the Guardians, are APKish for years.
For me APK defines like this:
Don't shoot first on lone players / small groups in encounters or towns(non TC) if you are alone or with your gang.
Shoot anybody you think that might pose a threat if in high alert status.
Don't let fun of killing and loot be the first priority when killing a player - self defence should be top reason.
True APK can't exist in this community. Anybody has his/her own view on when somebody should be shot and of course the dead one is always the one complaining.
APK and PK could be considered Jedi and Sith. APK always lecturing PKs about the scum they are and PKs always ridicule the APKs guidelines, saying they are not better than every PK.
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Depends what you mean by "PK".
I have seen 8 "pro players" shooting one leather armor guy in random encounter while farming.
I don't really get what's fun about it or how suddenly it's not "lame swarm" if you are 8 to 1
but it is when the same 8 apes meet a slightly bigger group of like-minded apes.
But it's not complaining, I just consider it unnecessarily lame.
There are players who don't play the easy way and it doesn't mean they sit in cave and craft.
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I agree with Andr3aZ and JovankaB on the above. Additionally...
To me a PK [in this game] is a not simply a "player who kills other players" (even though the letters P and K mean that literally). A PK [in this game] to me means a player who kills other players, with no honorable discretion. Typically a PK will also be the sort who reads my definition and pretends it is not possible to judge what "honorable discretion" is. They'll say your sense of it differs from theirs and who am i to judge theirs. That sort of thing. Yet we all know the moral standards for basic right-and-wrong in RL. The APK is usually a player who attempts to apply RL moral judgments onto situations inside this gaming environment. I am one such player. It's not easy [because i want to win all my fights too!]. The trick is to fight honorably even though the PKs fight dishonorably, and to find ways to stick to my superior standards. *big smile*
Reminder: there's a difference between killing and murder. All murders are killings, but not all killings are murder. A PK who acknowledges this is playing an evil character and is at least honest about it. A PK who rejects this is lying. Are you falling for it? They don't fool me!
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APK is me.
Other poeple are PK.
Easy to understand.
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APK is me.
Other poeple are PK.
Easy to understand.
what? i don't understand.
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Means that he kill everybody for moral rules instead of fun or power :)
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I bet a 100 septims he doesn't even understand it himself.
Very few times have I seen a sensible post come from him. (Something other people can easily comprehend without bullshit in it :P)
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Double your bet on that!
Seriously we should just add an age question when registering new characters, those who would fall for it better not be in the game at all
Its the little kids and anormal subspecies of humans who fuel the PK macropyre its just ridiculous. Just to say I like killing people over the wasteland, I dont like however killing low levels on a low level area (I see them on a northern town and they're dead)
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There's nothing like APK in this game, nobody has right to judge others if they are bad or good and if they deserve death or not. Well, maybe except me... So if someone says "I'm killing bad people/PKs" or "I killed you because I thought you were PK" he is lying. All these are just poor, childish excuses to kill someone. Everyone follows his own way of understanding justice, but something like APK doesn't exist, deal with it already people.
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A lot of smart peoples here ... REALLY ;)
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I bet a 100 septims he doesn't even understand it himself.
Very few times have I seen a sensible post come from him. (Something other people can easily comprehend without bullshit in it :P)
sarcasm never was your cup of tea, eh?
on topic, andreaz basically nailed it. This also is the same thing tttla, c88, tsar and guardians are doing it, among others. Being APk doesnt automatically mean that you judge people either, because by definition you only shoot to protect yourself from a potential threat.
You wouldnt call it "judging" another person to be bad if he already shot you.
What people dont get with tttla is, as the name says, (yes, tttla is just an abbreviation) that they have this judging part in there as part of rp. In order to be judged you have to come in contact with them first.
Anyway, I wouldnt evne consider rouges a pk gang for example as they dont go out in the wasteland specifically for the reason to kill bluesuits as section 8 are doing.
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Just to add something, I get it TTTLA does their thing due to RP Reasons and well its quite fitting in a way, c88 has some good direction and thus it fulfills its purpose, TSAR got lots of nice guys but why would S8 go around doing that kind of stuff? do they get it off from murdering blue suits? or is it some jacked up notion of RPing? I really would like to know
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LOL they kill bluesuits for a even more easy to understand reason: power, like the feeling of hold a gun in real life, the feeling that you rule on someone or something, thats is more powerful than the reasons of APKs and thats whats keeps S8 alive until now. In the end, they just want what everybody else wants, thats why they still doing it.
Needless to say im still hate them
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A lot of smart peoples here ... REALLY ;)
Thanks, I like to kill things, especially czechs, they do some funny sounds when they die :D
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sarcasm never was your cup of tea, eh?
When the person apparently showing "sarcasm" is the only thing he ever shows it goes to reason that's all he's capable of ;).
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Just to add something, I get it TTTLA does their thing due to RP Reasons and well its quite fitting in a way, c88 has some good direction and thus it fulfills its purpose, TSAR got lots of nice guys but why would S8 go around doing that kind of stuff? do they get it off from murdering blue suits? or is it some jacked up notion of RPing? I really would like to know
TSAR, TTTLA, C88, Guardians, The Lost Children, GN13, Outcasts, etc etc etc... you guys have a strong enough APK showing on the server. There are more I'm forgetting, as always.
Someone has to be the bad guy, and we fulfill that purpose.
As far as the "only kills bluesuits" notion, why is it always left out or otherwise overlooked when we attack or kill a top level player in BA? You guys never mention it. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose. Sometimes I kill Vilgefortz and his buddy in CA escapes with 12 HP, and he has to bring a 5 Merc rocket team to kill me.
Whats up with that?
You want video? They sure as shit ain't bluesuits.
So go ahead, do your thing. We'll do ours.
- WD
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Anyway, I wouldnt even consider rouges a pk gang for example as they dont go out in the wasteland specifically for the reason to kill bluesuits as section 8 are doing.
i always find this really humoring, because its not at all true, we dont' "target" blue suits, we don't discriminate any gang, we will fight anyone, blue suits are just the ones that whine/grief the forums and that's all you ever hear about. Now don't get me wrong, if a blue walks into an encounter, anyone in my team would shoot him, but if he's a lowly crafter his stuff will most likely be at the entrance of the closest town along with a message telling him where to pick it up. We hardly grief others as much as we are griefed by the WHOLE community of Fonline. Its really quite absurd. But again I am humored. Clearly people are only scared of ghosts of merc traps from a year and a half ago......
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PK and Anti-pk its all bullshit.
I get mad when I leave people alone in their encounters at popular leveling spots, then they turn around shoot me or sometimes I get annoyed when players shoot me when I'm leveling, does that make me anti-pk? When I enter in unguarded towns I just shoot anybody on sight not taking the risk of the guy trying to kill me does that make me PK?
I think the whole anti-pk pk conflict is going to die now that we can get materials without going to mines. And PKing has a purpose this time around its no longer senseless killing but strategy if you want to make another faction lose influence in a town.
I just call myself a free player I don't abide by a anti-pk set of rules and just do what I feel like doing at the moment. Sometimes I leave players alone, other times I feel like trolling and getting a good laugh.
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I saw some "APKs" at Gecko mine yesterday, they said that they are some anti pks and waiting for them, then I asked if they like pocket-filled guys coming out of mine, then they just said "fuk yoo" ... That determines how its to be a real apk...
I mean that htye just wait for some guy in better armor than bluesuit and better weapon than sledge to call him "peekay" and kill him on sight, thats lame imho.
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Imo, being APK is also related to the population of server. If you don't want an empty server, you avoid to kill blue beginners.
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how do you explain these mutie camps at gunrunners, mines and sf tanker then? Was that some kind of "old" section8 and the new one has changed?
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grief others as much as we are griefed by the WHOLE community of Fonline.
As far as the "only kills bluesuits" notion, why is it always left out or otherwise overlooked when we attack or kill a top level player in BA?
Whoah serious stuff a player in BA , i almost wet my pants it seems that's some special occasion for you guys.
Please just come town control if you want to be bad guys and shit ....
oh wait .... right keep making traps near NCR
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Really you guys should stop, APK are the ones who prevent Players from being killed by other players by killling players who kill players
Easy to understand?
In fact, posting the age question on the subscription forms won't prevent pks from joining the faction, but it will prevent mostly good players, and what is stopping a real pk of posting a fake age in there, nothing, so stop being morons.
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how do you explain these mutie camps at gunrunners, mines and sf tanker then? Was that some kind of "old" section8 and the new one has changed?
No, he is trying to say that they are not only "bluesuit killers" and they fight other things too. In a extend comprehension of all this stuff we can determine that EVERYBODY IS A MORON AND A VICTIM and further discussion will only inflame our brains.
I mean you can say "C88 is APK" "Rogues are not PKs" "Lagmaster is a tentraper" "S8 are n00b murders" because it is only relevant for certain situation and depending on the point of view of both sides.
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No, he is trying to say that they are not only "bluesuit killers" and they fight other things too. In a extend comprehension of all this stuff we can determine that EVERYBODY IS A MORON AND A VICTIM and further discussion will only inflame our brains.
I mean you can say "C88 is APK" "Rogues are not PKs" "Lagmaster is a tentraper" "S8 are n00b murders" because it is only relevant for certain situation and depending on the point of view of both sides.
Correct.
We have a lot of different guys, who do a lot of different things. If I had to name one problem we have it's that we have no cohesive goal. We did TC last age when we could, but we have just as many members who want nothing to do with it as we have members who want to do it.
However, saying "Go do TC and be real bad guys" is pretty stupid. It makes little to no sense, actually. Honestly, considering that 99% of the server hates us for one reason (or multiple) is pretty indicative that we're doing a good job of being "the bad guys", regardless of how we choose to do it.
When you boil it all down, most of you guys simply don't like the way we play, and that's fine. You don't have to, and we aren't asking you to. But crying because we don't do things the way you or other people do them is useless. To be honest, a lot of the "gang issues" that get discussed here is mostly crying and complaining about every little thing. It doesn't matter the topic, some of you will cry about it like a teenage girl who is upset because daddy doesn't like her scumbag boyfriend, or a bitch that lost her makeup.
We try not to do a lot of that crying about this, that, or the other, because we laugh at y'all for it. We tend not to post vids, or screens, or tell everyone "lolz, look we fucked you up n00bs, ur bad players suck it" ***shit in mouth*** because we feel it would make us look just as retarded as we think some of you are.
Oh, Dantiko. If you think that all PK's are just underage children, then you don't know many PK's. And this brings us to my last point...
The reason S8 is still around is because most of us are friends. We LIKE playing together, it's as simple as that. It's not some misplaced sense of power over new players, it's not some ridiculous fantasy land to us. We like the game, and we like playing it with our friends. That's why the faction still exists. There are new players, and old players, and everyone else is in the middle somewhere, including me. For anyone to claim to know otherwise is pretty ridiculous. Seriously, I don't know what goes on in TSAR or TTTLA's mumble/IRC/whatever, because I'm not there. And I won't pretend to. The logic works both ways.
If making fun of us makes you feel better, by all means keep doing it. It doesn't really hurt any of our feelings. We see our side, you see your side, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
WD
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Out of all the S8 guys I`ve met you`re the only sensitive reasonable guy and trust me, i´ve been everywhere. How come you like sticking with those fucked up ideals anyway? Even you know its distasteful. And there are plenty other assh... I mean pkers on the server, and even some of them have formed gangs you see, like MDK which is active enough ATM, leave the senseless pking to those little groups, or even to the russians that are coming back again (Soon san francisco will have those nets again) You guys should aim for a purpose, its just sad to see a well cohesive group waste its time on petty activities.
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Out of all the S8 guys I`ve met you`re the only sensitive reasonable guy and trust me, i´ve been everywhere. How come you like sticking with those fucked up ideals anyway? Even you know its distasteful. And there are plenty other assh... I mean pkers on the server, and even some of them have formed gangs you see, like MDK which is active enough ATM, leave the senseless pking to those little groups, or even to the russians that are coming back again (Soon san francisco will have those nets again) You guys should aim for a purpose, its just sad to see a well cohesive group waste its time on petty activities.
Then you haven't met them all.
And you've been "Everywhere"? Like our Skype chat, Raid Call, and playing with us?
I think I know the guys I play with a bit better than you do.
Don't be too quick to compliment me, either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giv9XQhOTIE
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Whose base was it anyway and did you rape it afterwards (or did they claim it)? Its a shame then your marketing department haven´t exploited this epic eh, wins! Unless it was a kind of one night stand thing...
And for the compliments, you got a sexy voice :3
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Whose base was it anyway and did you rape it afterwards (or did they claim it)? Its a shame then your marketing department haven´t exploited this epic eh, wins! Unless it was a kind of one night stand thing...
And for the compliments, you got a sexy voice :3
No we did not rape it. We left everything there.
This was a GN13/Outcasts base.
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However, saying "Go do TC and be real bad guys" is pretty stupid. It makes little to no sense, actually.
It makes sense instead of shooting loners and players who just simply can't retaliate , better go fight other teams since S8 is a team right ... faction whatever ? Unless you are not able to do that for some obvious reasons like not enough people for that , but there are ways how to bypass that if your motivated enough.
We really need more teams participating in TC :) more fun for everyone.
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t888 stop that please. not everyone needs to play tc.
S8 mostly plays in desert in turn base and I like them couse I need some enemies to shoot in TB :F This era mercstraps gona be a lot harder to manage so the only thing that I was accusing s8 lately (using pussy insta-kill death traps) will be probably gone.
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S8 will be around in TB/RT all over the wasteland, no worries
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VSB
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TSAR, TTTLA, C88, Guardians, The Lost Children, GN13, Outcasts, etc etc etc... you guys have a strong enough APK showing on the server. There are more I'm forgetting, as always.
Someone has to be the bad guy, and we fulfill that purpose.
As far as the "only kills bluesuits" notion, why is it always left out or otherwise overlooked when we attack or kill a top level player in BA? You guys never mention it. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose. Sometimes I kill Vilgefortz and his buddy in CA escapes with 12 HP, and he has to bring a 5 Merc rocket team to kill me.
Whats up with that?
You want video? They sure as shit ain't bluesuits.
So go ahead, do your thing. We'll do ours.
- WD
About part about me and mercs : you made my day! Loled hard
Yours imagination is bigger than my not yet born son's one.
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Usually the group with enough players can control towns, and benefit from it in imbalanced amount of ammo and weapons right now, if what I hear is not false info. They also get militia power in certain towns, and control access to traders there. Regardless of that a group of people can occupy unprotected mines, where you get high quality ore which is used for crafting best gear. Right now there are 3 such mines, so with 3 factions blocking it and killing everyone else there (PK) other players would be unable to have any of the best gear, but in this fallout world protecting mines is not so important. Players which are noobs, or loners, they will roam around the wasteland and do crappy with crappy gear. And after being killing by someone stronger they whine about it and call it PK, call themselves APK. There are now people like me or maybe I'm the only one, who decides to live his life in fonline, based on honor. So if someone does something dishonorable, I disrespect such group and people and mark them as enemies.
I don't shoot noobs, but I hate them very much, if someone is noob, don't play with him. Saves you from stress and stupidity is contagious.
I haven't seen anyone who cares about anything, I was away for 3 days, but now I'm back so I can check the status in wasteland, but I doubt that anything has changed. Everyone cares for him self. Some may care for other players, but I don't know. It usually remains among the factions or sects. They help you if you are from their group. If they don't know you, they steal your car, pk you. Who cares? I'm not like that, I'm some sort of apk. I don't steal or kill those who don't do that first. And I know that my actions are like some small ant pushing a piece of wood, a larger group of ants can push wood, grass, and other ants around. I'm no one to talk, being a former pk I now try to become good, because evil is bad.
By the way apk want me and you and others to be pk so they can have enemy. You can't kill and loot if no one is pk. But fortunately many are. Greedy rats game, heavy sickness it is. Human nature!
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About part about me and mercs : you made my day! Loled hard
Yours imagination is bigger than my not yet born son's one.
Not sure what you mean here.
Are you saying it didn't happen, or that it didn't happen the way I said it did?
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I'm APK in real-life ;)
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I'm APK in real-life ;)
and that means you don't take out a combat shotgun and start bursting people in the city?
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Not sure what you mean here.
Are you saying it didn't happen, or that it didn't happen the way I said it did?
I never used mercs or friends with mercs in pvp.
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Correct.
We have a lot of different guys, who do a lot of different things. If I had to name one problem we have it's that we have no cohesive goal. We did TC last age when we could, but we have just as many members who want nothing to do with it as we have members who want to do it.
However, saying "Go do TC and be real bad guys" is pretty stupid. It makes little to no sense, actually. Honestly, considering that 99% of the server hates us for one reason (or multiple) is pretty indicative that we're doing a good job of being "the bad guys", regardless of how we choose to do it.
When you boil it all down, most of you guys simply don't like the way we play, and that's fine. You don't have to, and we aren't asking you to. But crying because we don't do things the way you or other people do them is useless. To be honest, a lot of the "gang issues" that get discussed here is mostly crying and complaining about every little thing. It doesn't matter the topic, some of you will cry about it like a teenage girl who is upset because daddy doesn't like her scumbag boyfriend, or a bitch that lost her makeup.
We try not to do a lot of that crying about this, that, or the other, because we laugh at y'all for it. We tend not to post vids, or screens, or tell everyone "lolz, look we fucked you up n00bs, ur bad players suck it" ***shit in mouth*** because we feel it would make us look just as retarded as we think some of you are.
Oh, Dantiko. If you think that all PK's are just underage children, then you don't know many PK's. And this brings us to my last point...
The reason S8 is still around is because most of us are friends. We LIKE playing together, it's as simple as that. It's not some misplaced sense of power over new players, it's not some ridiculous fantasy land to us. We like the game, and we like playing it with our friends. That's why the faction still exists. There are new players, and old players, and everyone else is in the middle somewhere, including me. For anyone to claim to know otherwise is pretty ridiculous. Seriously, I don't know what goes on in TSAR or TTTLA's mumble/IRC/whatever, because I'm not there. And I won't pretend to. The logic works both ways.
If making fun of us makes you feel better, by all means keep doing it. It doesn't really hurt any of our feelings. We see our side, you see your side, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
WD
You know, I still hate your guts and always will (just in the context of the game, of course), but I appreciate this post. This has enlightened me in different ways. I gotta tell you though, it feels great to kill your members (give a shout out to Nephilim, or whatever his name is), and I will continue to. See you in the wasteland!
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I never used mercs or friends with mercs in pvp.
Never said you did, and I never said it was PvP.
I was camping a humvee I found, and you and some guy showed up. I killed you, he got away before I could get a final shot off... and then he returned a few minutes later with 5 mercs and smashed me.
I distinctly remember you making a comment that I couldn't carry all the plasma grenades you had on you at the time. This was near Hub, BTW.
Of course you had long respawned by the time the mercs dropped in on me.
So unless you have a habit of sharing that char with other players, it was you.
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You know, I still hate your guts and always will (just in the context of the game, of course), but I appreciate this post. This has enlightened me in different ways. I gotta tell you though, it feels great to kill your members (give a shout out to Nephilim, or whatever his name is), and I will continue to. See you in the wasteland!
It's all good man. In every engagement, someone has to lose for there to be a victor. If you're happy when you're victorious, I can't disparage you for it.
;D
And I'm sure Neph will see the post.
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I still cant relate all this Wind drift, to the fact you shoot low level people on low level areas just for the lulz. You claim to avoid certain retarded actions but the way I see it, and I dare say most people do (this being the point, I dont know why you dont see it) murdering people unable to fight back, regardless you take their loot or not is plain wrong, its 1 sided fun, its bullying people around and that shouldn't exist on a game. In real life its a pretty dire situation but again it isn't like we control stuff there. Here however with our tools at our disposal, its simply stupid to let bullies have their way.
At any rate this scuffle here isn't with you or your pals but with the devs and their sick ways.
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You know, I still hate your guts and always will (just in the context of the game, of course), but I appreciate this post. This has enlightened me in different ways. I gotta tell you though, it feels great to kill your members (give a shout out to Nephilim, or whatever his name is), and I will continue to. See you in the wasteland!
killing a RT character at 10 hexes w/4 characters in TB and then later w/ 10 people again at less then 10 hexes not very thrilling, but killing your faction leader's pathetic "merc attack" was glorious as well as smoking your 4 guys in RT trap w/ 2 snipers was also really awesome.Im normally not the boasting "OMG WE PWN U!?!?!" type but i figure since i saw some trash talking about me i had best throw in my 2 cents. Aside from that did i mention THERE WERE 2 OF US lolz against your whole team. You can't win them all shithead ;p
and now next on my list
I still cant relate all this Wind drift, to the fact you shoot low level people on low level areas just for the lulz. You claim to avoid certain retarded actions but the way I see it, and I dare say most people do (this being the point, I dont know why you dont see it) murdering people unable to fight back, regardless you take their loot or not is plain wrong, its 1 sided fun, its bullying people around and that shouldn't exist on a game. In real life its a pretty dire situation but again it isn't like we control stuff there. Here however with our tools at our disposal, its simply stupid to let bullies have their way.
At any rate this scuffle here isn't with you or your pals but with the devs and their sick ways.
I can never understand this,
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guys, this gets off topic and boring.
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At any rate this scuffle here isn't with you or your pals but with the devs and their sick ways.
Look at it like this. If the problem isn't with me or my friends, perhaps you shouldn't expend the energy shouting as us from your high horse. I'm sure you feel majestic up there, but good ole Wilbur's shit stinks, too. Maybe you should grab a shovel and scoop some of it up for fun and XP. You can probably trade it in for 5 caps as well. Maybe even 10 if you play your cards right.
You and Wilbur are welcome to take a shot at any one of us, any time. We're big boys, we can handle it. We understand it's just a game.
As far as your thoughts on the dev team... well, I'm not touching that one even with Wilbur's dick.
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You know, I still hate your guts and always will (just in the context of the game, of course), but I appreciate this post. This has enlightened me in different ways. I gotta tell you though, it feels great to kill your members (give a shout out to Nephilim, or whatever his name is), and I will continue to. See you in the wasteland!
killing a RT character at 10 hexes w/4 characters in TB and then later w/ 10 people again at less then 10 hexes not very thrilling, but killing your faction leader's pathetic "merc attack" was glorious as well as smoking your 4 guys in RT trap w/ 2 snipers was also really awesome.Im normally not the boasting "OMG WE PWN U!?!?!" type but i figure since i saw some trash talking about me i had best throw in my 2 cents. Aside from that did i mention THERE WERE 2 OF US lolz against your whole team. You can't win them all shithead ;p
Coming from down here against such a GREAT faction as yours, I don't care. I look forward to seeing you again as a pile of goo.
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APK does it exist? cause some guys said they were APK but they shot me they told me I could go talk to them on their IRC but I'd rather cry on forum I think they're PK blah blah blah
Paraphrasing Nietzsche, the man who fights against monsters should be careful or become a monster himself, and when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you.
And all that.
To all those who whine because some APKs are bad or something (especially those who steal nicks and/or derp around with characters with names like "APK dude" killing people randomly), I dare them to play like an "APK" should, according to them, and see how long they do well before someone complains.
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Paraphrasing some ugly mer called Nai Tyrol-Llar for some RP purposes: "When thou enterest into Oblivion, Oblivion entereth into thee."
Anyway, both PK and APK have something in common, if they are hated they are making his job well. :P
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Coming from down here against such a GREAT faction as yours, I don't care. I look forward to seeing you again as a pile of goo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQkLBqc78aw
About the title post..what can i say...all social groups eventually get corrupted for theyr members actions and/or theyr leader`s secret ambitions/desitions, regardless if they are "good" or "evil". People need to think more and stop narrowing themselves with those ancient ideas about "right" and "wrong" they are just gameplay styles, Section 8 has some players which also like playing in small groups-tb and do lone huntings.I do even know players which do these things on theyr own, or with fewer people, not needing to "tc", there are some of us which love classical style "pk", we dont have any "obligation" in any way to "satisfy" or met nonmembers/players needs/likes/expectations, we play in our way, you play in your way , you could always ask for your space without having to sound like a religious fanatic or an angry kid that doesnt get what he wants...about the hate to player killers in general... i dont know what you are expecting , playing a "wasteland" themed game and having all non hostile players-non hostile npcs, and immortality,what would it be then? go playing habbo hotel if you want an avatar-themed chat "game"...its a real shame that this game has gradually lost its original meaning, and i know some old players would agree with this aswell... i remember wipes ago when it was a real warzone,i as a newbie had to go through broken hills underound cave, because the surface was a constant chaos, i didnt cry, never felt a need to , i just adapted to the dangers, and actually enjoyed the difficulty, even making random local allies, just for the sake of survival,when there was nowhere to be safe, when few people cried over the forum, few people had to cry about getting killed, when you died and there was random respawns, dying in hub and respawning in klamath (the usual respawn place), when mutants were so rare and there wasnt any really mayor imbalance,i remember when miners had to escape from the mine, since they spotted the mutant leader´s scout...those were great times...when newbies protect themselves making local battle groups instead of crying in an internet forum expecting others to solve theyr problems ...most of you never played in those great eras, you didnt need to show off everything you do, you didnt need to have tier 3 gear to actually have fun, all in all its a shame most of you will never enjoy such a great experience...there was no need to troll behind a computer screen, like a momma´s boy, raging and insulting as if it would change anything in any way, but instead, just making the entire thing suck...
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Never said you did, and I never said it was PvP.
I was camping a humvee I found, and you and some guy showed up. I killed you, he got away before I could get a final shot off... and then he returned a few minutes later with 5 mercs and smashed me.
I distinctly remember you making a comment that I couldn't carry all the plasma grenades you had on you at the time. This was near Hub, BTW.
Of course you had long respawned by the time the mercs dropped in
So unless you have a habit of sharing that char with other players, it was you.
So not my friend. It was (almost fail cause of you ;)) trade. Had no idea what happened
there after my death. l never share my lone glowpicker char ;)
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It's like fonline has it's own political parties, they believe opposite things to be true and behave in the same way(wanton murder).
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In fonline APK does exist.
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APK's PK PK's therefore APK is a lie
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APK's PK PK's therefore APK is a lie
You could better say that everyone are PKs.
When you meet random people at somewhere and you hold weapon in you hand, they will shoot you and then talk to you -> I thought ur gonna shoot me man, so I helped myself etc shit.
But I understand, this is wasteland. Crying is useless and killing will do anything <3
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pks i consider are people who go full armed tot the places where noobs are ie where they try to level on molerats.
sadly those douchebags exists
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(http://kenscastleage.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/pvp.jpg)
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(http://kenscastleage.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/pvp.jpg)
It's funny, because the kid is in bluesuit.
;D