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Title: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 08, 2012, 05:28:03 pm
Official list of pk-ers. I have sworn to play anti-pk on this session.
Rules: screenshot if possible and saved log, to confirm who is pk(breaking the law). You may post nicknames without any screen or log, but giving wrong information places you on the list as well. It includes, stealing, bombing, killing. No mercy for those who break the law.

A well known active pk gangs: Soldiers of Thunderstorm(Rogues), Chosen Soldiers, Bang Bang Smash, Банда Без Названиа(BBN), Section 8, Grim's Reapers; will probably shoot anyone who is not from their faction on sight. I'm not sure of other factions, but do not be fooled by gangs saying that they are not pk.

Renar
Jimbillv2
Rick Grimez
Milo
eliodirupete
Korg
Deadline
Mr.Sniper
Oblivion
Boba Fett
Bonifacus
Idea.
Dr Parchir
oldman1
Schmeisser
LuckyRunner
morue farcie
Woreck
Moulatarte
Yukinfected
Скайкаст
PNEUMOCOCK
psotka
Dr. Quinn
OBR KRZYZA
BBS Manero
Acid
R3voLuTioN
Ownbertus
Jim_Raynor
Tommy
Mr. Hands
Senteza
thiefow
blackeye
TentFighter
Prof. Torr
.Pagrer
Acodin
Rozpruwacz
yoz ace
yoz kage
Ed Gein
Simon
Crazy Bitch
Boxer
Drakon
Huitzilin
GrosDoc
Hidden PKer
Zack
ghostrunner
Фафин91
Pentium
KLADIVO

The list will soon become large, when it happens I'll use a text file.
If someone is blacklisted by mistake and claims that he hasn't pked, he has right to complain, and I'll inspect it and reveal the case to public.
All those for who I know but they are not in the list will get there soon enough.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Dark Angel on January 08, 2012, 05:59:20 pm
haha funny, you can put me there, because i like PVP so automatically im pk. ;D You started apk/pk shit
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: JovankaB on January 08, 2012, 06:24:30 pm
haha funny, you can put me there, because i like PVP so automatically im pk. ;D You started apk/pk shit

But PKing is attacking someone who doesn't want to fight.
It doesn't matter if you do PvP with people who look for a fight.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Rejfyl on January 08, 2012, 07:00:02 pm
This game is too fast to ask someone if he wants a fight or not. In most situations you would be dead before getting the answer.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Tomowolf on January 08, 2012, 07:02:29 pm
Well there should be an icon if player attacked  or killed someone recently he would get some, that would "mark" bad players ( not counting those which were defending themselves)

Anyway to the topic:
Sig Sauer, and Maulalarte or something like that.
Zeratil and Zerotool.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: JovankaB on January 08, 2012, 07:04:01 pm
This game is too fast to ask someone if he wants a fight or not. In most situations you would be dead before getting the answer.

No it's not. You don't need to ask anyone, just don't shoot at unknown people like lobotomized ape.
Lot's of people play this way, including some PvP gangs. If you are too scared, it's your problem.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Tomowolf on January 08, 2012, 07:06:37 pm
No it's not. You don't need to ask anyone, just don't shoot at everyone like lobotomized ape.
Lot's of people play this way. If you are too scared, it's your problem.
Then someone will shoot him, at least 70% of players will do it.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: runboy93 on January 08, 2012, 07:29:13 pm
Whatever add me to list too ;)
There is just one trick you need to do before that.
Find me and what name I use
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Jimbill on January 08, 2012, 07:30:45 pm
lol jimbillv2 but not jimbill? there both more or less test alts anyway, be sure to put my trader alt 'traderalt' on the list
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Rejfyl on January 08, 2012, 07:54:01 pm
No it's not. You don't need to ask anyone, just don't shoot at unknown people like lobotomized ape.
Lot's of people play this way, including some PvP gangs. If you are too scared, it's your problem.
Alright, i'm scared lobotomized ape and you're a little girl who wish to play her favourite Hello Kitty in fallout universe.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Lupus on January 08, 2012, 08:09:22 pm
This game is too fast to ask someone if he wants a fight or not. In most situations you would be dead before getting the answer.

There might be better solution, if they come too close without warning - shoot, if they keep their distance allowing to resolve if its Friend or Foe, then there is no need to burst blue suit guy.

but "too close" doesn't mean sight range...
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 08, 2012, 08:15:16 pm
Rules are simple. Don't make me post needless than it already is. Who is unable to understand and acts uncivilized, he'll be punished. I'm not here from yesterday. I know people can have mults, I'm not afraid to die and I don't forgive anyone, wasteland is harash and so am I. Those who agree with me are welcome to join my cause.
Shortly you can only pk once with each account. Once it gets in the list, it's over. Any further arguing is pointless.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Dark Angel on January 08, 2012, 08:39:25 pm
Rules are simple. Don't make me post needless than it already is. Who is unable to understand and acts uncivilized, he'll be punished. I'm not here from yesterday. I know people can have mults, I'm not afraid to die and I don't forgive anyone, wasteland is harash and so am I. Those who agree with me are welcome to join my cause.
Shortly you can only pk once with each account. Once it gets in the list, it's over. Any further arguing is pointless.


Hahahaha if you are not here from yesterday you should know that there was a lot of same blacklists.  ;D
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: avv on January 08, 2012, 09:18:59 pm
Then someone will shoot him, at least 70% of players will do it.

Could be. But you can think of it like this: what you got to lose except your reputation?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: jodwig on January 08, 2012, 09:55:34 pm
You were PKer yourself with just an excuse for your "Anti-PK game".
So, welcome, you are the first one in Jodwig's Hell:

1. Marko69

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Alexandrite on January 09, 2012, 12:07:02 am
You were PKer yourself with just an excuse for your "Anti-PK game".
So, welcome, you are the first one in Jodwig's Hell:

1. Marko69

Enjoy!

Ha! Nice one! XD
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: desertfox2126 on January 09, 2012, 06:31:48 am
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c312/Da_NY_Kid/screen_09-01-2012_00-23-39.jpg)

Deadline
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 09, 2012, 11:18:40 am
Deadline

I know Deadline personally he goes into list without a screenshot.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: RickGrimes on January 09, 2012, 11:48:36 am
Official list of pk-ers. I have sworn to play anti-pk on this session.
Rules: screenshot if possible and saved log, to confirm who is pk(breaking the law). You may post nicknames without any screen or log, but giving wrong information places you on the list as well. It includes, stealing, bombing, killing. No mercy for those who break the law.

Renar
Jimbillv2
Rick Grimez<<<<<<<< Screen shot  you post it under rules then dont follow your own rules
Milo
eliodirupete
Korg
Deadline
Mr.Sniper

The list will soon become large, when it happens I'll use a text file.


Screen shot  you post it under rules then dont follow your own rules.Breaking the law would be killing you in ncr and getting away with it
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 09, 2012, 12:19:28 pm
(http://i40.tinypic.com/kd8hso.jpg)

Screenshots are not required. If someone posts a false nickname, the gods will tell me the truth.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Reiniat on January 09, 2012, 07:29:19 pm
Sorry man but i think that your crusade is pointless:
1.- PKs added to the list feel it like a trophy for they efforts
2.- Youre not god and the gods doesnt talk to you and have lose the fey in postapocaliptic human
3.- PKs die anyway, if there is a bunch of APKs following me doesnt make any diference
4.- Wasteland is hugue and full of alts, there is no way to really know someone
5.- N00bs assasins deserve to stay as they are, most newbies grow up, but they cant because they suck
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: mr.PEPPER on January 09, 2012, 08:19:27 pm
It's so bad that u can't add WANTED list to NameColorizind.txt :( Or you can? :)
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 09, 2012, 08:23:09 pm
Sorry man but i think that your crusade is pointless:
1.- PKs added to the list feel it like a trophy for they efforts
2.- Youre not god and the gods doesnt talk to you and have lose the fey in postapocaliptic human
3.- PKs die anyway, if there is a bunch of APKs following me doesnt make any diference
4.- Wasteland is hugue and full of alts, there is no way to really know someone
5.- N00bs assasins deserve to stay as they are, most newbies grow up, but they cant because they suck
Wasteland is small. Noob assassins are small fry. You seems to be small too.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on January 09, 2012, 10:43:13 pm
just to tell you, theres another STALKER in the wasteland.
My name is "STALKER13" but the other on is just plain "STALKER"
So if you see him, thats not me
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Eternauta on January 09, 2012, 11:22:59 pm
Official list of pk-ers.

There's actually nothing official in your list, there are already some other threads with lists of PKs, base rapers, etc... I think the closest thing to "official" is TTTLA's list (relatively old faction, etc), but it has mistakes (inb4 PK APK OUTLAW BLACKLIST TROLOL SWARM) and it cannot be called official because such a thing will never exist.

Another advice if you allow me, don't be trying to go after PKs, or call yourself an APK, it'll lead you to a whole mess of misunderstandings and a lot of people will hate you no matter if they got a reason to do so or not. Calling yourself APK and trying to kill PKs is perhaps all right when you're a small time loner or member of a tiny faction. But when your group becomes strong enough to actually represent a considerable force, everyone will hate you :)

Sorry if it doesn't sound nice, I'm just trying to warn you about hard times and waves of trolol.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: runboy93 on January 09, 2012, 11:34:25 pm
Sorry man but i think that your crusade is pointless:
1.- PKs added to the list feel it like a trophy for they efforts
2.- Youre not god and the gods doesnt talk to you and have lose the fey in postapocaliptic human
3.- PKs die anyway, if there is a bunch of APKs following me doesnt make any diference
4.- Wasteland is hugue and full of alts, there is no way to really know someone
5.- N00bs assasins deserve to stay as they are, most newbies grow up, but they cant because they suck
So true.. so true.
PKs got their "reward" sooner or later.. one fact you cannot escape.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 09, 2012, 11:36:52 pm
Quote
But when your group becomes strong enough to actually represent a considerable force, everyone will hate you.

So what?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Eternauta on January 09, 2012, 11:48:08 pm
So what?

If being heavily trolled doesn't annoy you, and you don't mind if after a while almost all your posts, almost all the threads you post in and almost all the threads where you and/or your faction are mentioned get flamed, then go ahead. Like I said, I was just warning.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: T-888 on January 10, 2012, 12:01:43 am
I know Deadline personally he goes into list without a screenshot.

Oh in that case , add Tripleight and all nicknames with prefix 888 to blacklist.

It would be much more simple for you to just add some factions to blacklist would make blacklist easier.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: A concerned wastelander on January 10, 2012, 07:35:47 am
There's actually nothing official in your list, there are already some other threads with lists of PKs, base rapers, etc... I think the closest thing to "official" is TTTLA's list (relatively old faction, etc), but it has mistakes (inb4 PK APK OUTLAW BLACKLIST TROLOL SWARM) and it cannot be called official because such a thing will never exist.

Another advice if you allow me, don't be trying to go after PKs, or call yourself an APK, it'll lead you to a whole mess of misunderstandings and a lot of people will hate you no matter if they got a reason to do so or not. Calling yourself APK and trying to kill PKs is perhaps all right when you're a small time loner or member of a tiny faction. But when your group becomes strong enough to actually represent a considerable force, everyone will hate you :)

Sorry if it doesn't sound nice, I'm just trying to warn you about hard times and waves of trolol.

Claiming to have the right to judge others is what makes them hate you.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 10, 2012, 12:07:17 pm
Oh in that case , add Tripleight and all nicknames with prefix 888 to blacklist.

It would be much more simple for you to just add some factions to blacklist would make blacklist easier.
I haven't seen all the nicknames yet, so it will take some time. I'm busy leveling up my character, and soon I'll make another one. So as everyone else. Therefore the list will be complete when all gangs have established their characters.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Vindict on January 10, 2012, 12:18:09 pm
some people seem not to understand a simple fact that often you kill someone just because you know if you don't shoot first, he will shoot first.
when you meet someone in the desert you dont have time to chat. it's kill or be killed.
(unless the other guy starts running from the begining, that's a different story)
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 10, 2012, 12:26:57 pm
Quote
some people seem not to understand a simple fact that often you kill someone just because you know if you don't shoot first, he will shoot first.
Those who shoot first will get in blacklist and will be shoot afterwards. I'm not afraid of dying.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Wind_Drift on January 10, 2012, 02:00:57 pm
As soon as I get my magic shoes, you're all blacklisted.

Wait, what?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: runboy93 on January 10, 2012, 02:05:38 pm
If you scare so much to being killed, then don't betray you friends (OR kill random bluesuits on wastes) :/
Simple as that, I got my reasons to my revenge last season, but.. I think this time I don't have anything to revenge about :(

I promised that I got plans for this season, but.. I don't need any plans anymore.
I just level up and live like free man on wastes! :D
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: RickGrimes on January 10, 2012, 07:59:00 pm
(http://i40.tinypic.com/kd8hso.jpg)

Screenshots are not required. If someone posts a false nickname, the gods will tell me the truth.




Lol so you had a flame thrower aimed at me with armor on and cause i owned you long range.with a short range weapon your going to cry about it .


AHAHAHAHAHA  I effn LOVE THIS GAME! I love how easily you can ruin peoples day. Fonline = ultimate PK game ever
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Eternauta on January 11, 2012, 01:50:55 am
Claiming to have the right to judge others is what makes them hate you.

Some APKs want to "roleplay" some kind of lawbringer role. Some think protecting new/weak players and help them in their first steps will help them stay and therefore keep server population. Some PKs believe it is all right to kill weaker characters to take their stuff, or to make them learn about the harshness of "the wasteland" (of this game). All these are in my opinion cases of players judging others.

It's about points of view and also about what the game mechanics allow you to do. They allow you to shoot anyone for example just after they're done mining, they allow some mistakes and misunderstandings to happen (no namecolorizing, although such a feature has its negative side which has nothing to do with this discussion), and they allow you to list enemies in your base terminal (sometimes to as lolo blacklist'd!1!).

Game mechanics allow you to tag characters green or red, so they allow you to decide who you'll treat as a good person and who you'll treat as a bad person.

So no, I personally wouldn't say APKs believe they have the right to judge others while the rest doesn't - I'd say APKs judge others  in a way which is different from the way others judge, and these "others" find it annoying, just like some find PKs annoying.

The problem with APKs (me included) are when mistakes are made (everyone makes them, some of us have no problem in accepting them and will allow the victim to talk to us about it), and when you claim to be APK, everyone thinks you're a godlike form of being who can fulfill your role perfectly, so no mistake is accepted.

So my personal advice to Marko is that if he wants to be APK, he should be APK and act APK, but never claim to be APK, as this only brings trolol and flames. Sometimes from people you've killed by accident, by mistake or by misunderstanding... Sometimes by little PK teens who wants everyone to accept his playstyle but will never accept other's.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Fettel on January 11, 2012, 10:38:48 am
Who even needs blacklist anymore, you can find yourself if somebody wanna shoot you, so stab before they do.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Prometheus Pithras on January 11, 2012, 11:07:47 am
(http://i40.tinypic.com/kd8hso.jpg)

Screenshots are not required. If someone posts a false nickname, the gods will tell me the truth.

all i see here is (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5091/zomgndjfhrkk.jpg)
which is normal in 2238, from all the time ive been playing ive learned that you should just stop criticizing and/or raging ,its completely pointless in this game, but instead, learn from your mistakes, get a proper build, aswell as a good faction without base rapers, and then crush him, is that really hard?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: jodwig on January 11, 2012, 03:17:56 pm
get a proper build, aswell as a good faction without base rapers, and then crush him, is that really hard?

Yep, it actually is, because there's no known faction, which will get some "No Names" into their gang. Base-raping and spying is kinda popular these days, you know?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Schwartz on January 11, 2012, 10:28:41 pm
Yep, it actually is, because there's no known faction, which will get some "No Names" into their gang. Base-raping and spying is kinda popular these days, you know?

Somehow new players still managing to get into big factions, so its possible.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: NekoMimi on January 12, 2012, 01:33:36 am
Official list of pk-ers. I have sworn to play anti-pk on this session.
Rules: screenshot if possible and saved log, to confirm who is pk(breaking the law). You may post nicknames without any screen or log, but giving wrong information places you on the list as well. It includes, stealing, bombing, killing. No mercy for those who break the law.

Renar
Jimbillv2
Rick Grimez
Milo
eliodirupete
Korg
Deadline
Mr.Sniper
Oblivion
Boba Fett
Bonifacus
Idea.
Dr Parchir
oldman1
Schmeisser
LuckyRunner
morue farcie
Woreck
Moulatarte
Yukinfected
Скайкаст
PNEUMOCOCK
psotka
Dr. Quinn
OBR KRZYZA
BBS Manero
Acid
R3voLuTioN
Ownbertus
Jim_Raynor

The list will soon become large, when it happens I'll use a text file.
just got killed by PNEUMOCOCK twice in Modoc. just minding my own business, talking to the Roman guy, and BAM! dead. Go back, in hopes my stuff is still there, don't even set foot in town for 5 secs, and she/he kills me again. hoping for a ban for them! didn't give me a warning, or anything!
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: runboy93 on January 12, 2012, 10:45:59 am
Lol.. just keep earlier session PK list and you will see that there is many same characters that still remain as PK :)

Edit: New PK to list: Gra4ik
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Reiniat on January 12, 2012, 10:59:39 pm
Oblivion

Quote from: me
For a PK be in the list is like a recognition award for their efforts
and it only took me 26 guys! it must be a record of most people killed before get in the list  :P

Manero BBS
I pretty much want you to try kill Manero, he kills n00bs for sport, you wont have a chance.

EDIT: I just realized that be in a list and be known as a "PK", had his drawbacks, i just want to point that im not a simple PK, i follow a set of rules, my Fonline bushido is pretty much like Marko69 philosophy; an illusion wich will lead us to misunderstandings and trolling.
1.- I only kill whoever is able to put a fight, before wipe this was easy, just dont kill unarmed and low HP guys, now HTH apes are a problem, if you are unarmed and get close to me i'll shot you.
2.- I never backstab.
3.- I always offer help and hunting oportunities, if i do that you can be sure that i wont kill you, if you are leading i will follow your rules including no murder.
4.- If you meet me in a unguarded city youre free to shot, if you meet me in a guarded city (including sincity AKA Shady Sands) you can invite me to hunt, travel, barter, etc. wanna backstab me? you can, are you sure its worth?.
5.- Im not a thief, baseraper, etc.
6.- I dont make grind camping, use mercs, trollkill (ok i did that once), or kill people weaker than me.
7.- Im not rich, dont expect me to carry fancy stuff.
8.- I dont fear to die, i never flee and if im at your side ill try be your best soldier

SO WHAT ARE YOU WAITIING FOR?!?!:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gv7pZCYo9u8/TVgAWqFPVZI/AAAAAAAADLU/YCgy3s_ZwIs/s1600/watchmen+12+-+rorscharch%2527s+death+2+-+Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Chrupek on January 13, 2012, 12:00:07 am
Whats the point of this rage topic?
If you want to protect wastes, just wait for pm (screenshots included). But why posting such a list?
I find it very trololo, and a lil bit funny. You look like crying baby boy.

This game is about eliminating, other chars. What else can u do? Crafting? Ok. but crafting for what? Only to get combat advantage.
So accept, that there are people who prefer to kill, and not to be killed.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Aladdin on January 13, 2012, 01:15:50 am
Reptile
Reptile
Reptile
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: X_Treme on January 13, 2012, 06:13:14 am
what the fack is that? again with the same shit?

so lame
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko on January 13, 2012, 06:26:26 am
Just to clarify, Marko69 is the real Marko. I'm just Marko (a RL nick). Two different guys albeit similar outlooks on the PK topic.

We all judge behavior, and that's a good thing to do. And we all judge it almost exactly the same. The only difference is, the PK types choose to be evil and pretend there's no such thing. Meanwhile some of us know it matters and try to be good. The game mechanics do test the APK types more though since anyone approaching has the advantage when you want to talk first and kill later if they want to kill first and talk later.

So this game is much more challenging when played as APK. PK is like playing Diablo II Normal mode. APK is like playing in Hell mode. If you play APK, i salute you and i invite you to "adopt a PK" today lol. Find a PK and help him be a better person. Help him rise to a higher standard. Show him there's more to this game than his petty PK play style, and maybe he'll advance and play the full game some day soon.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Alexandrite on January 13, 2012, 06:46:18 am
Soon, Marko69 will post every name of every player on this topic... this is just sad...  :-\
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Dantiko on January 14, 2012, 03:58:48 pm
Oh, btw there is a pk called Pardonne, a noob that shot me when I was about to leave encounter vs raiders, he is a sniper that shot me in the eye, well, end up he just waited for the raiders to finish me off and loot my body, if u see him, kill.

Was bursted by a guy in metal armor while I was with a hunting rifle killing raiders, his name is t.Virtua.t
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: LagMaster on January 15, 2012, 03:58:28 pm
Mr. Hands
Senteza
thiefow
blackeye
TentFighter

of the first 4 i got screen,s but to lazy to upload, the last one atacked me in Modoc Encounter wille i was hunting brahmins, no screen
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: runboy93 on January 15, 2012, 03:59:05 pm
Heavy handed killer at New Reno.
Dias

Beaten him up with criticals when he tried to enter house and started following me :)

.Pagrer
Sniper PK with high critical change, killed me when I was looting on encounter.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: jodwig on January 15, 2012, 09:57:06 pm
Since 90% of people are PKs, wouldn't it be easier to list people who are not PKs?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: mr Wipe on January 16, 2012, 12:45:21 am
i am not PK :) me and my gang are one true APKs...please all newbiez send us pm...we will let u dig rocks and craft in our town...;D
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: runboy93 on January 16, 2012, 07:48:05 am
Alphonse was at Modoc and killed poor bluesuit with his friend ;)
I don't "remember" friend name let's say it like that
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Fettel on January 16, 2012, 08:55:24 am
Alphonse was at Modoc and killed poor bluesuit with his friend ;)
I don't "remember" friend name let's say it like that

Alphonse is actually a APK. He was just attacked, and defended him self.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: runboy93 on January 16, 2012, 09:18:43 am
Alphonse is actually a APK. He was just attacked, and defended him self.
That shotgun guy killed another guy earlier and I saw it too, but he wasn't unprotected :/ he would shot me too if he wanted..
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: X_Treme on January 16, 2012, 05:26:00 pm
Alphonse is your Fault!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 16, 2012, 07:31:04 pm
I know Pagrer it's good to see BBN playing.
For Alphonse I need more proofs, so I won't add him yet. But it's not really important yet. Soon enough will be clear who is pk and who is not. PK and their noobizm will suffer when I find them.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Fettel on January 16, 2012, 09:40:21 pm
I know Pagrer it's good to see BBN playing.
For Alphonse I need more proofs, so I won't add him yet. But it's not really important yet. Soon enough will be clear who is pk and who is not. PK and their noobizm will suffer when I find them.
¨

Alphonse is good guy, trust me. He plays with Lost Soul's faction Aka Haunted Soul.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Chrupek on January 16, 2012, 11:31:46 pm
I know Pagrer it's good to see BBN playing.
For Alphonse I need more proofs, so I won't add him yet. But it's not really important yet. Soon enough will be clear who is pk and who is not. PK and their noobizm will suffer when I find them.

Soon? Sooner than soon? Or just SOON?
You post like u can own whole wasteland... good to know there are people like u. consider uploading sound of final Unreal Tournament Boss (Xan?), you could enter town and say: "Fear me!" everytime... but this is just a tought;)

Maybe you can post some of your ownings, some screenshots, vids...
or your build, just to scare community...

PS: Im starting the list: Mantis killers.
Waiting for pms, details and screenshots.
And im waiting for volonteers, to patrol mantis area... we have to protect those poor creatures!
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 17, 2012, 09:12:54 pm
Today I failed to encounter any pk, and when I do they run away. I keep on doing my thing. I don't sit on teamspeak always, but I am on irc. If someone asks for help I'll look into it.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Dr. Parchir on January 18, 2012, 10:29:39 am
did you know that even NCR Trolls are PK here?  ;D
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: runboy93 on January 18, 2012, 10:48:59 am
did you know that even NCR Trolls are PK here?  ;D
:O damn.. Then I need check my huge .txt file for names xD
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Dantiko on January 18, 2012, 12:49:25 pm
I am APK, and I am not sure if a guy that ran after me while I was collecting junk near Themepark is PK, he carried a combat knife and was a bluesuit, I loled
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 18, 2012, 04:12:17 pm
Maybe you can post some of your ownings, some screenshots, vids...
or your build, just to scare community...

PS: Im starting the list: Mantis killers.
Waiting for pms, details and screenshots.
And im waiting for volonteers, to patrol mantis area... we have to protect those poor creatures!

I lost all screenshots before september 2011, I deleted fonline and forgot to save screenshots.
What does it matter? I am noob, here I made a video of those screenshots I found, they are not cool, because at that time everything was too lame and I forgot to make screenshots. But I'll try to make some new fresh screenshots. You never know...
You show me some of yours.

http://youtu.be/5LAcud6GSjk
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: desertfox2126 on January 18, 2012, 09:23:36 pm
Yoz Ace... or i think its how u spell it... killed me multiple times in the Bone Yard
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: yoz on January 19, 2012, 12:06:20 am
You spell it in lower case letters.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 19, 2012, 09:47:10 am
Yoz Ace... or i think its how u spell it... killed me multiple times in the Bone Yard

Where exactly?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Chrupek on January 19, 2012, 12:43:27 pm
You show me some of yours.

why? Im not acting like punisher, and immortal char;]

PS: sorry for your loss, im sure those were epic sshots.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Imrinfected on January 19, 2012, 07:45:26 pm
One of my alts is on that list, Yukinfected.

I did not PK a single player on that character - it's a PvE alt. There was one guy who I incapped when I entered an encounter out of suspicion, and afterward first-aided. I guess I really should have just killed the guy because he apparently was enough of a faggot to claim that I'm a PKer. I guess I hurt his extremely delicate 10 year old pride by eye-critting him, the poor baby.

I don't suppose anyone could give me the name of the person who reported me as a PKer? I'd love to track the jackass down and demonstrate real player-killing. I absolutely cannot stand such opportunistic liars - a person too inept to kill me himself so instead lies to get his way. A real piece of shit.

I have a policy of incapping anyone that I accidentally enter an encounter with, and outright killing anyone who enters my encounter - it's caution. I offer to return anything valuable(to them) that they lost, granted that I can carry it, very well knowing what their intentions might have been. I guess some people can't appreciate that; I'm expected to show altruism to someone who would kill me far more ruthlessly if given the opportunity. Absurd. Exercising caution does not make me a PKer, and I don't appreciate the slander.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 19, 2012, 08:53:44 pm
One of my alts is on that list, Yukinfected.

I don't suppose anyone could give me the name of the person who reported me as a PKer?

I have a policy of incapping anyone that I accidentally enter an encounter with, and outright killing anyone who enters my encounter - it's caution.

Exercising caution does not make me a PKer, and I don't appreciate the slander.

I added you my self. Attacking people is barbaric and against the rules.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/jreg3n.jpg)

You tried to kill хомяк with unarmed and I shot you in the head several times.
Before your attack we did nothing.

How would it look if I killed everyone out of caution? Would make me a pk.
You continue like that and there will be more and more evidences.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Imrinfected on January 19, 2012, 09:55:58 pm
I added you my self. Attacking people is barbaric and against the rules.


You tried to kill хомяк with unarmed and I shot you in the head several times.
Before your attack we did nothing.

How would it look if I killed everyone out of caution? Would make me a pk.
You continue like that and there will be more and more evidences.
"Against the rules", you say. There are no such rules.

Whatever the case may be, merely attacking players does not equate to player killer, ergo you are a liar - doubly so considering that I didn't attack first in that screenshot. There was one case where I attacked someone unprovoked, and that's the case that I detailed in my previous post.

You're not even APK then, and in that case your list is meaningless.

"Honor", you said. I don't think you know anything about that.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 19, 2012, 10:31:38 pm
Whatever the case may be, merely attacking players does not equate to player killer, ergo you are a liar - doubly so considering that I didn't attack first in that screenshot. There was one case where I attacked someone unprovoked, and that's the case that I detailed in my previous post.

I don't suppose anyone could give me the name of the person who reported me as a PKer? I'd love to track the jackass down and demonstrate real player-killing. I absolutely cannot stand such opportunistic liars - a person too inept to kill me himself so instead lies to get his way. A real piece of shit.

I have a policy of incapping anyone that I accidentally enter an encounter with, and outright killing anyone who enters my encounter - it's caution. I offer to return anything valuable(to them) that they lost, granted that I can carry it, very well knowing what their intentions might have been. I guess some people can't appreciate that; I'm expected to show altruism to someone who would kill me far more ruthlessly if given the opportunity. Absurd. Exercising caution does not make me a PKer, and I don't appreciate the slander.

"Against the rules", you say. There are no such rules.
"Honor", you said. I don't think you know anything about that.

This list exists so people who play know against who to be cautious.
What you have said is enough proof that you are pk.
The rules of civilized people is not to begin fights without a word.
I take that you are a newbie and that you don't understand this.

Imrinfected:
Date Registered:
    March 17, 2011, 11:24:37 am

Marko69:
Date Registered:
    December 22, 2009, 10:12:19 pm

Eventually you will learn.... soon.

I advise you to think very well about it, and maybe I can forget.

What I fight against here is not those who kill or steal, but against those who have intentions to do so. Against Hypocrisy, Barbarism, etc.
My way is honorable and fair, find some proofs against me, where I did something wrong.
I haven't shoot at anyone who hasn't attacked me first. Never said a bad word, and never stole anything on this session.
I am doing this very strictly and there are no mistakes.
I have strong beliefs and I know what I'm doing. You can ask other people for their opinion.
I know that many maybe disrespect what I do, and they don't care about it. May call it all null, like it doesn't count. But I do it anyway.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Imrinfected on January 19, 2012, 11:02:22 pm
This list exists so people who play know against who to be cautious.
What you have said is enough proof that you are pk.
The rules of civilized people is not to begin fights without a word.
I take that you are a newbie and that you don't understand this.

Imrinfected:
Date Registered:
    March 17, 2011, 11:24:37 am

Marko69:
Date Registered:
    December 22, 2009, 10:12:19 pm

Eventually you will learn.... soon.
Your condescending attitude does nothing to flatter your blind conviction. The continued accusation that I'm a PK even to my face when there's no one to convince of it shows your total unbending devotion to what is a fundamentally flawed endeavor. I could respect such determination if it were not so misled.

Civilized people do not make ignorant assumptions about others who are trying to clear their name. I get the feeling that you won't bend on this, either, so I'll give you a proposition:
When you killed that character, it was a low level. I was farming Golden Geckos for their pelts and storing them in my nearby tent. Clearly you and the other Russian fellow were doing the same, and upon realizing that I likely had Golden Gecko Pelts on me, you killed me. You looted those pelts from my body, said not a word to me, and added my name to your list of PKers, thereby slandering my name on these forums. The character that you killed is now level 24, however, and has been for quite some time. I will present to you an opportunity to kill this character again in the way of a meeting, the details of which will be decided in private after your agreement to this proposition. On your character "Ingram" you will take 11 Golden Gecko Hides to this location and keep them on your person. You will have the opportunity to kill me again, and I will have the opportunity to get revenge on you, collecting resources lost from our previous encounter. We will both go to this location alone. I have no expectations that you will be at all "honorable", as I don't believe that you have even the feeblest of grasps on that concept, but I would ask that you not camp the spawn of the meeting place and in return I will do the same.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: NekoMimi on January 20, 2012, 12:06:51 am
sorry, but if someone attacks me just because i happen to land on their encounter, no matter how "noble" they think they are, i will get mad. that being said, why would you kill someone for just happening upon you? i LEAVE the encounter, and still get shot at, so sorry, but that excuse does not fly. if you try to kill someone without being provoked, you are PK. i don't murder, or steal, and if someone dies and i get their stuff, if they want it back, i give it to them.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Imrinfected on January 20, 2012, 03:34:27 am
sorry, but if someone attacks me just because i happen to land on their encounter, no matter how "noble" they think they are, i will get mad. that being said, why would you kill someone for just happening upon you? i LEAVE the encounter, and still get shot at, so sorry, but that excuse does not fly. if you try to kill someone without being provoked, you are PK. i don't murder, or steal, and if someone dies and i get their stuff, if they want it back, i give it to them.
PKers often look for encounters that players are in. This happens most often in popular grinding areas, but PKers will often just happen by players in encounters, enter and kill them.

That's why I kill anyone who "happens upon" my encounters - they are far more likely to be a PKer than not.

As for me being a PKer, it's not like I actively go out of my way to kill players. I'd say that it's an insult to real PKers to say that I am one.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: NekoMimi on January 20, 2012, 04:58:54 am
well when you see someone, bluesuit, no weapon out, running away from the encounter, i would say it is a safe bet that they are NOT pk, or at least not going to pk you. i don't know you or your charecter, all i know is i have been killed and shot at just for traveling to some town, and running into someone on the way, or people camping in the town. i may be new to this particular game, but even i know, if you act like a duck, quack like a duck, and walk like a duck, people are going to think you're a duck. substitute duck for pk, and it still makes sense. i don't have any problem killing if they attack me, but i would never just jump the gun and kill someone for happening upon me. if they want to fight, they will either say so, or fire.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Fettel on January 20, 2012, 07:46:22 am
well when you see someone, bluesuit, no weapon out, running away from the encounter, i would say it is a safe bet that they are NOT pk, or at least not going to pk you. i don't know you or your charecter, all i know is i have been killed and shot at just for traveling to some town, and running into someone on the way, or people camping in the town. i may be new to this particular game, but even i know, if you act like a duck, quack like a duck, and walk like a duck, people are going to think you're a duck. substitute duck for pk, and it still makes sense. i don't have any problem killing if they attack me, but i would never just jump the gun and kill someone for happening upon me. if they want to fight, they will either say so, or fire.

If its hostile, you kill it. that's my way to think

but even if its not hostile you still kill it, Because wasteland is harsh.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 20, 2012, 11:57:15 am
If its hostile, you kill it. that's my way to think

but even if its not hostile you still kill it, Because wasteland is harsh.

Keep on killing everyone and you get on blacklist, I'm harsh too!

Quote
When you killed that character, it was a low level. I was farming Golden Geckos for their pelts and storing them in my nearby tent. Clearly you and the other Russian fellow were doing the same, and upon realizing that I likely had Golden Gecko Pelts on me, you killed me. You looted those pelts from my body, said not a word to me, and added my name to your list of PKers, thereby slandering my name on these forums.

No. We were leveling up our characters there, gecko pelts are of no use to me. Marko farming gecko pelts would make everyone I know LOL big time.
You almost killed Hamster and you wrote "dem crits" when I killed you, you attempted to kill us while we fight the mobs. You say you self that you kill everyone who enters your encounter but you just kill anyone who you encounter. For me the fact that you wrote on forum that you kill everyone who enters your encounter is enough to add you to the pk list.
And he is not Russian, he is form US. We don't play together now, I got mad because imo he was slowing me down. It's not an easy task to be Paladin.
If you are scared of getting your pixels on the screen dead, it's not enough to justify that everyone in the wasteland are pks and you should just kill everyone who happens in encounter.
But I claim here that even what you say is bullshit because you are pk and noob, you will kill people to loot few gecko pelts, armors and guns of low quality. Very low bro.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Fettel on January 20, 2012, 12:05:12 pm
Keep on killing everyone and you get on blacklist, I'm harsh too!

(http://meme.zenfs.com/u/6217ea4448c43a5c2ed97cdaf7ac5323f5e42e38.jpeg)

Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 20, 2012, 12:20:20 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Fettel on January 20, 2012, 12:23:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

Wrong thread, here is the funny video thread.
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=7298.0
no need to thank me.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on January 20, 2012, 02:34:27 pm
If its hostile, you kill it. that's my way to think

but even if its not hostile you still kill it,
Isn't that from Metro 2033?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Fettel on January 20, 2012, 02:36:05 pm
Isn't that from Metro 2033?

Yes, its good quote works with every situation.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Imrinfected on January 20, 2012, 03:03:31 pm
Keep on killing everyone and you get on blacklist, I'm harsh too!

No. We were leveling up our characters there, gecko pelts are of no use to me. Marko farming gecko pelts would make everyone I know LOL big time.
You almost killed Hamster and you wrote "dem crits" when I killed you, you attempted to kill us while we fight the mobs. You say you self that you kill everyone who enters your encounter but you just kill anyone who you encounter. For me the fact that you wrote on forum that you kill everyone who enters your encounter is enough to add you to the pk list.
And he is not Russian, he is form US. We don't play together now, I got mad because imo he was slowing me down. It's not an easy task to be Paladin.
If you are scared of getting your pixels on the screen dead, it's not enough to justify that everyone in the wasteland are pks and you should just kill everyone who happens in encounter.
But I claim here that even what you say is bullshit because you are pk and noob, you will kill people to loot few gecko pelts, armors and guns of low quality. Very low bro.
Completely ignoring my proposition, then. You're a coward.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Tomowolf on January 20, 2012, 09:35:19 pm
New pks:
Simon
Crazy Bitch
Boxer
Drakon
Huitzilin
GrosDoc
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Fettel on January 21, 2012, 12:52:52 am
New pks:
Simon
Crazy Bitch
Boxer
Drakon
Huitzilin
GrosDoc

More like old pk's   ;D
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Crazy on January 21, 2012, 01:11:43 am
GrosDoc, a PK? He doesn't even have any weapon skill, and he never killed a player!
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Kelin on January 21, 2012, 02:14:36 am
Crazy I hope you don't take them seriously, I'm having such a good time reading this black list from people who think every armed player in encouter is a PK  ;D
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: John Porno on January 21, 2012, 04:08:45 am
Crazy I hope you don't take them seriously, I'm having such a good time reading this black list from people who think every armed player in encouter is a PK  ;D
would you laugh the same way if he typed random hawks names instead of random coa names?

posting names of people that killed you or somebody, ok, that is debatable. But posting names of people you dont know is a bit over the top, eh?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Reiniat on January 21, 2012, 04:25:17 am
I had forgotten this:
Quote from: me
KILL THEM ALL, EVERYBODY DESERVE TO BURN IN HELL, and those who dont deserve that, deserve to die aswell because their ignorancy.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Kelin on January 21, 2012, 10:37:04 am
would you laugh the same way if he typed random hawks names instead of random coa names?
Yes, I swear I would. Maybe you are surprised but some Hawks should go on that list automatically. I don't really care since I'm shot in every player encounter... (only survived encounters are the ones where I managed to run away)

Useless trolling John, thought you can do it better  :P
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: -Fojtik- on January 21, 2012, 01:31:19 pm
would you laugh the same way if he typed random hawks names instead of random coa names?

posting names of people that killed you or somebody, ok, that is debatable. But posting names of people you dont know is a bit over the top, eh?

you're always welcome on our black list
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: manero on January 21, 2012, 02:11:22 pm
GrosDoc, a PK? He doesn't even have any weapon skill, and he never killed a player!

I dont know how in wasteland law but in polish assistance in crime is punished the same as crime  ;D
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: LeonTheNorse on January 21, 2012, 02:32:32 pm
Ahh the after wipe black list thread, allways good for some laughs.

Title: Re: Black List
Post by: JovankaB on January 21, 2012, 03:46:43 pm
I dont know how in wasteland law but in polish assistance in crime is punished the same as crime  ;D

And as far as I remember, it was also TTTLA policy :P
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Tomowolf on January 21, 2012, 05:00:20 pm
And as far as I remember, it was also TTTLA policy :P
Thats so called "self own" or "falcon punch".
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Alexandrite on January 21, 2012, 05:05:39 pm
You can add two more people to the blacklist:

Hidden PKer
Zack
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Crazy on January 21, 2012, 05:27:18 pm
And as far as I remember, it was also TTTLA policy :P
Yup, but an Outlaw is different from a PK. I can say that someone who help Outlaws without killing anyone is Outlaw, you can't say that a dude who help a PK without killing anyone is a PK :P
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Dantiko on January 21, 2012, 05:51:38 pm
Well, there are the crafting alts for PK Factions and the crafting players of PK Factions, some players who don't fire a gun in more than 2 years, well, that is a controversy if an APK kills him, he would be killing a non-pk player, but it's allowed as long as this non-pk player is supplying the PKs, he creates the weapons of war of our enemies, so he is our enemy as well.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Kelin on January 21, 2012, 08:16:22 pm
A wise man once said: You don't shoot a character, you shoot a player.  ;)

I have to agree with that, it doesn't make any sense to not shoot enemy crafter, it's obvious he is going to make a new weapon to pwn you in a next encounter with his pvp ape!
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: John Porno on January 21, 2012, 10:31:14 pm
A wise man once said: You don't shoot a character, you shoot a player.  ;)

I have to agree with that, it doesn't make any sense to not shoot enemy crafter, it's obvious he is going to make a new weapon to pwn you in a next encounter with his pvp ape!
orly?
(http://clip2net.com/clip/m83229/1319299030-clip-23kb.jpg)
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: yoz on January 21, 2012, 10:43:16 pm
Let's be honest. Most people want to be on this list.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Kelin on January 21, 2012, 10:50:31 pm
orly?
See? You didn't kill a poor miner but the player! Yes you suddenly become a damn PK bastard but who cares? Enemy is killed. That's exactly what I was talking about.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: -Fojtik- on January 22, 2012, 12:35:34 am
Especially in this case, crafter Myspulin of APK faction, who supplied his stuff to his AntiPK faction was killed by "AntiPK" player  John Porn and possibly another miners. Does that make him something other than APK?

Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 22, 2012, 12:40:14 am
Makes him an Anti-pk pker of other anti-pks.

Wait a minute... this is retarded.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: -Fojtik- on January 22, 2012, 12:47:51 am
It makes him someone who don't cares about antipk rules, or a prior agreement (see the declaration of war), he governed only to the emotions and bad judgment, looking for different evidence to justify his behavior in the created screenshots.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: John Porno on January 22, 2012, 01:00:18 am
troll harder, fast shot
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: -Fojtik- on January 22, 2012, 01:09:06 am
I don't need you troll, your character is named TROLL, it speaks for all. And you forgot to post screenshot, or screenshots of BHH, CS, Panzors and another PVP groups, how they did the same thing.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Aquare on January 22, 2012, 01:30:02 am
Another day, another drama.  8) I hope, more people will get involved here.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: John Porno on January 22, 2012, 02:35:28 am
I didnt expect these 10 rounds of .223 to be such a good investment in the future, generating laughs even months later. :D
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Henk on January 22, 2012, 02:36:48 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV4vHpqrj6E
http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/cool-story-bro.jpg


Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 22, 2012, 10:27:25 am
A wise man once said: You don't shoot a character, you shoot a player.  ;)

I have to agree with that, it doesn't make any sense to not shoot enemy crafter, it's obvious he is going to make a new weapon to pwn you in a next encounter with his pvp ape!

orly?
(http://clip2net.com/clip/m83229/1319299030-clip-23kb.jpg)

Irrelevant! Enemy miners will get resources from other places, or by trading, or when you are not in the game. And you can not for sure know that it's an enemy miner.

update: I found out that this mining has something to do with faction influence. If you warn people before killing them it is justified.

C88 apk gang?  :-\

Quote
Yup, but an Outlaw is different from a PK. I can say that someone who help Outlaws without killing anyone is Outlaw, you can't say that a dude who help a PK without killing anyone is a PK

Maybe it's kurwa? I won't feel I did wrong to add such people to list. The only thing that doesn't count is trading. But I suggest highly to avoid trading with pks, because you can be tricked.
I repeat this is a list of those considered to be dangerous to meet in wasteland and shooting them does not get you on a black list.

Quote
I don't need you troll, your character is named TROLL, it speaks for all. And you forgot to post screenshot, or screenshots of BHH, CS, Panzors and another PVP groups, how they did the same thing.

Maybe if I add Hawks and everyone else I won't make a mistake. But I haven't seen anything to support it.

List updated.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: John Porno on January 22, 2012, 01:36:15 pm
ok marko, now putting the insiders-trolling between me and hawks aside, Troll 1 was my town control sneaker last sesseion and I used it quite extensively in reno as well. THe point is, with a normal pvp char you kind of provocate situations where you might shoot innocen people. However with a sneaker you can avoid that 99% of the time.

What the above screenshot shows is me killing fojtiks miner char, who is the leader of hawks, after our gang has been at war. I wouldnt have killed a miner char ov kelin (though he probably wouldnt mind as he just said himself) but the point is, that fojtik has been known to personally insult us and the gang and entertainung us with copypasted rage pm's.

So what do you think now? do you believe me or do you call "bullshit tttla propaganda" on my post, marko?

edit: I probably should have pointed it out earlier, but these screens date from a months back. I didn't even level that char yet this season.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: -Fojtik- on January 22, 2012, 02:12:05 pm
The reason why I was insulting you was just because you have breached the agreement between Leon (whom I respect for finding who organized the whole thing and could have a greater word in the gang C88) after the whole possible conflict and then cancels the agreement on assistance to the weaker side, where weaker side was only TTTLA, then you have declared war on the absurd reason and better PvP against minority, but without the help of TTTLA would never be possible.

I told you in advance that I will challenge you every time I see more people on your side. I have just called swarmers and niggers during each TC, when I saw you outnumbered, it was my martial sentence to welcome you in city, I never called you like PKs or something like this, just swarmers and niggers which you were.  One time, I laughed at your IRC channel with my nick Myspulin, that without more people you can not how to do. It is a reason, why my crafter with nickname Myspulin was killed. Time you had same number like we and nobody insulted you anymore, even not me, but from your side yes.
 
Reasons why I have challenged them were for the injustice, cowardice, and doing things only with TTTLA. But it looks like John Porn still can not get over this and only one his reason that he killed my crafter is only that i called him one time before several months common with TTTLA together like swarmers and niggers, as other gangs make a fun from you . Your reputation has decreased only through your actions, no thank to my greetings. So it's you who destroyed the alliance, not me. Good Luck in your real life John.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: maszrum on January 22, 2012, 02:24:46 pm
shit just got real
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Kelin on January 22, 2012, 02:35:02 pm
...I wouldnt have killed a miner char ov kelin (though he probably wouldnt mind as he just said himself) ...
What I said was more a philosophical question than pure reality and I was reacting at someone's post about crafting alts. Of course when I got killed by Res and two hours later I see Res. mining I will shoot him (just an example, Res doesn't mine he does "tradings" with players).

I think twice or even three times before I decide to kill anybody, killing unknown miners is mostly a waste of time, ammo and quite a big danger that a miner is my friend. So no, I would mind to kill your crafter/miner John since you can't defend yourself and to be honest it's kinda retarded to act like that. There are real cowards in the wasteland who deserve it, not you. Another story is killing your Troll 1, sure I kill him because if I don't kill your sneaker then you will kill mine.

btw this shit is getting deeper, better stop posting or it will go out of control.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: LeonTheNorse on January 22, 2012, 02:40:55 pm
The reason why I was insulting you was just because you have breached the agreement between Leon after the whole possible conflict and then cancels the agreement on assistance to the weaker side, where weaker side was only TTTLA, then you have declared war on the absurd reason and better PvP against minority, but without the help of TTTLA would never be possible.

I told you in advance that I will challenge you every time I see more people on your side. I have just called swarmers and niggers during each TC, when I saw you outnumbered, it was my martial sentence to welcome you in city, I never called you like PKs or something like this, just swarmers and niggers which you were.  Time you had same number like we and nobody insulted you anymore, even not me, but from your side yes.
 
Reasons why I have challenged them were for the injustice, cowardice, and do things only with TTTLA. But it looks like John Porn still can not get over this and only one his reason that he killed my crafter is only that i called him one time before several months common with TTTLA together like swarmers and niggers, like other gangs. Your reputation has decreased only through your actions, no thank to my greetings.  Good Luck John in your real life.

Do you even recall what i told you? If we see you become too many we wont stay out of it, and wait for it: 3 hours later we see you with every gang ingame at den:)

Anyway this is all in the past, dont see why you even bother with it anymore.

Title: Re: Black List
Post by: -Fojtik- on January 22, 2012, 02:50:37 pm
No no, you just said that you will be neutral before we told you ahead that we common with BHH planning attack to Den, like a response to the fact that we were shot by TTTLA (second time, before with TTTLA common with Rogues together under the guise of that we are seen with german nicks, we did not want to repeat this situation but it happened with BHH this time) during when we wanted to have a friendly fight with BHH.  But it is not only from this reason, reasons were much more during conflict. War between tttla was not my idea, our people hated tttla before. I was only the last one who had to adapt own people, because we were outvoted. Exactly is the past and are things, which can not be changed.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Kelin on January 22, 2012, 02:59:21 pm
Guys it's the past, forget it. New era, new politics, what do you think? Nobody cares about things which happened one, two or three wipes ago...
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: -Fojtik- on January 22, 2012, 03:09:17 pm
For me it is long past, only give the reasons why I am NOT unreasonably insulted to someone.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: John Porno on January 22, 2012, 03:53:24 pm
For me it is long past, only give the reasons why I am NOT unreasonably insulted to someone.
haha, bottom line is, you could have just chilled the fuck out back then and everything would be aight now.

And as far as the thread is concerned, I hope every bystander who read the last page now has an idea of what can happen if you give too much of a shit about getting killed ingame.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: -Fojtik- on January 22, 2012, 04:00:53 pm
I just say that we forgot the whole thing and take you only as an enemy same as other enemy gangs, conversely what we can not forget is moron named John Porn.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: -Fojtik- on January 22, 2012, 04:08:32 pm
Quote from: John Porno
And as far as the thread is concerned, I hope every bystander who read the last page now has an idea of what can happen if you give too much of a shit about getting killed ingame.

It was you who sent pictures of killed miner with commentery, not me. :)
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 22, 2012, 04:13:26 pm
Removed Troll 1 from the list.
Your gang fights are none of my business. I haven't seen any of this gang members, or any strong report about their stance.
Solve your problems elsewhere. For me there's only difference between barbarians and civilization.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Sarakin on January 22, 2012, 05:20:01 pm
@Fojtik - It doesnt really matter what has happened between you (and us), but insulting someone and calling him names is immature and lame.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: -Fojtik- on January 22, 2012, 05:22:16 pm
I think that your gang Sarakin, doing the same things.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Returned on January 22, 2012, 06:39:29 pm
Guys it's the past, forget it. New era, new politics, what do you think? Nobody cares about things which happened one, two or three wipes ago...
"Once you got beaten up you will revenge long as opponent finally give up"
Same applies to 2238
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Reiniat on January 22, 2012, 08:40:22 pm
 :P this is PK list trolling treath, move you lollygagging somewere else.

"Once you got beaten up you will revenge long as opponent finally give up"
Same applies to 2238
i coudnt resist it....so you mean that those guys must fight indefinitely until some new idiot alliance comes? what would someone win of that?
if life is stupid, why do you have to bring that to Fonline?  :P
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Returned on January 23, 2012, 09:13:51 am
runboy93 killed me at v15 :/
there was other guys with him, but I didn't manage see their names..
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Shangalar on January 23, 2012, 03:20:27 pm
GrosDoc  :D He never fights ! Awesome !
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: manero on January 23, 2012, 04:13:08 pm
I thought everyone understood that this list is ridiculous  :P I was wrong...
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Returned on January 23, 2012, 05:35:53 pm
MorHo killed me with laser pistol :/
I wanted kill mutated moles, but he killed me and taken my exp..
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Beret on January 23, 2012, 11:01:11 pm
Most of guys who got "VSB" in nick are PKs, so better run if you meet one of em. They say that they are "APK" but they killed me and my friend in Mariposa (we wanted to craft some ammo).
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Hololasima on January 23, 2012, 11:17:19 pm
Most of guys who got "VSB" in nick are PKs, so better run if you meet one of em. They say that they are "APK" but they killed me and my friend in Mariposa (we wanted to craft some ammo).

First of all. We didnt say we are anti-PKs this season. We just looking for our bussines, dont shooting anyone unknown on sight and just defend ourselfs from people like You, which are killing our crafters just for the fun. And yeah, you and your friend killed some of our crafters.

Stop this buthurt, thanks.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Beret on January 23, 2012, 11:28:14 pm
So you ain't APK? Great to know this! But w8 a sec... One of Your guys told me different thing...
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Hololasima on January 24, 2012, 12:13:21 am
One of your friend told me that you have big head. And what? Yes, we are not anti PKs. We just looking for our bussines, plus it didnt change thing that you killed our crafters before  ::)
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: melisko on January 24, 2012, 12:15:40 am
So you ain't APK? Great to know this! But w8 a sec... One of Your guys told me different thing...
First of all, VSB doesnt have to say anything to this. If you are now happy, that you forced an attack a and now can finally cry a river, so be it.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: T-888 on January 24, 2012, 12:47:08 am
So you ain't APK? Great to know this! But w8 a sec... One of Your guys told me different thing...

I can bet you asked for a bullet in the head , it's like 90% of these whines. Once upon a time people didn't whine , great story.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 24, 2012, 04:08:00 am
Once upon a time people didn't whine , great story.
if only there were such a story to be told  :-*
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Returned on January 24, 2012, 09:59:16 am
VSB not anymore APK :/
Well.. it just make things interesting if last season APK factions become PK factions, but still.. APK for win.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Chrupek on January 24, 2012, 01:28:34 pm
I have to report one of my alts:/

I was repairing stuff at my tent (of course it wasnt dual log. i asked my guinea pig to assist me), and then my sniper char accidentally put bullet into repairers head:(
At first i was "what the hell just happend?!", but then i decided, i cant stand such an insult. Without any explanation!!! Im pretty sure, that it was my gunea pig left front paw, who missclicked, but that doesnt matter. PK is PK. Sorry, no screenshot.

Marko, please put "Flea" on the list.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Marko69 on January 24, 2012, 03:26:20 pm
I have to report one of my alts:/

I was repairing stuff at my tent (of course it wasnt dual log. i asked my guinea pig to assist me), and then my sniper char accidentally put bullet into repairers head:(
At first i was "what the hell just happend?!", but then i decided, i cant stand such an insult. Without any explanation!!! Im pretty sure, that it was my gunea pig left front paw, who missclicked, but that doesnt matter. PK is PK. Sorry, no screenshot.

Marko, please put "Flea" on the list.

Write me all your alts, I'll add them gladly.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Chrupek on January 24, 2012, 09:30:11 pm
Write me all your alts, I'll add them gladly.

I think you have some problems with reading. Add Flea, and package of my PK chars will be complete. Or maybe, now youre adding not-so-pk and not-really-pk?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: manero on January 24, 2012, 10:16:47 pm
...now youre adding not-so-pk and not-really-pk?

not-decided-pk
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: The DUDE on January 29, 2012, 04:11:34 pm
black list is racist, why not call it the blue list/red list/whitelist.  are you a racist marko?     ;D
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Alexandrite on January 29, 2012, 10:39:46 pm
black list is racist, why not call it the blue list/red list/whitelist.  are you a racist marko?     ;D

Black listed means you are not allowed or disliked by a person or people...

White listed means you are the opposite of the message above...

Also, you can add a player named Azura there... saw her pk people for items...  :-\
Title: Time to make my first post count!
Post by: IcyMew on January 29, 2012, 10:58:11 pm
First of all, allow me to introduce myself.

I am IcyMew. My alternative characters are named IcyJes and IcyMedic.

I am a Fallout Veteran and have played each and every single Fallout down to the end, save for tactics, and this includes 3 and NV, right down to the DLC.

Tactics I found to be much more fast paced, it reminded me of Brotherhood of Steel for the Playstation 2 in some ways, but something about the real time in Tactics put me off a bit. It was still a Fallout game and for that I cannot bring myself to hate it.

I play on a very variable ping connection and have no viable alternatives. It's this or dialup, and I'd rather not drag myself through the mud on that case!

[Stay with me people, this rambling preface will consummate into a valid set of opinions and informative nuances]

I have eyed FOnline for a reasonable amount of time. I really paid attention to it in 2010, when I read about it after checking NMA for the newest SFall, because I was immensely interested in online play. I mean, I enjoyed Tactics actually most in multiplayer, to be honest. However I was never too fond of PvP only.

As a matter of fact, my older brother, bless his heart, I got him readdicted to Fallout with 3 and New Vegas. I had just come in from my morning cardio and he pulled me aside and told me how much he wished we could play something in the Fallout world together...cooperatively.

This thought brewed deep in my mind for a long time. Months I thought to myself, "Can it be done...?"

I experimented with SFall for a long time. I had little success with it. I mean, controlling another critter in combat has it's merits...but what defines the universe is it's unique atmosphere. And what fun is it to be confined primarily to combat? To be tethered to each other and not be able to roam freely, and yet closely.

I finally took the plunge approximately 4 days ago, downloading FOnline. My first mistake was downloading an ancient torrented version of it. I quickly realized that it was not only out of date, but set up for Afterlife. After attempting patches and frowning in contempt at my own naivete, I set up another overnight download, but this time, with the proper client.

I woke up early in the morning to check it's status. Over the morning cooking of breakfast, I shuttled back and forth between the laptop and the table, initiating the install, setting up the pathing, ensuring that the random crashes from before were no longer occuring, checking my ping to ensure that it would be stable enough to connect to the servers reliably.

I finished breakfast and took my morning seat, noting my cardio in an hour.

[You all still with me?! I'm getting there, I promise! :o ]

I ran the updater and realized that there was still plenty left to do. Between cardio sets, I updated and reupdated, each patchfile coming closer to the long awaited and anticipated end result. It finally finished, and thus entered the troubleshooting period. Sounds failing to play, music failing to play, the whole nine yards.

After finishing my sets and freshening up, [ ^^ ] I re-established my ping tests and finally ended up with a fully functioning product!

"Excellent! I can now take the icy plunge into the abyss that is sure to enthrall me!"

[And now the part that everyone actually cares about]

3 days later, and I've seen quite a bit of FOnline. I've wandered all about the wasteland, mostly unseen.

I can honestly say I understand both sides of the story here.

For example, about an hour ago, I was in Klamath, after escaping New Reno. I was laser rifled to the face standing there talking to a few new acquaintances, bluesuit, nothing on me. Yes, the wasteland is harsh, but that is an unsaid rule. Anyways, I, in my weakened state, entered Klamath. I of course, stealthed first thing, and edged around the building that was Sulik's imprisonment in FO2. I opened the door and walked into a small throng of people. I immediately fled around the building to the nearest window to observe. I saw two people shooting each other in the head. I darted away and restealthed. A man, most likely the victor of the encounter, ran out of the building. Suddenly a man in metal armor with a minigun spawned near me. The runner fired a single blast at the metal armored man, and attempted to flee. He was gunned down in a very humorous fashion. I unstealthed at a decent distance, and was attempting to hail the man for his crusader like behavior!

I, standing next to the defeated man's corpse, watched as the man walked up to me with his minigun. I made a move away from it to show that I was not going to loot his take. He turned about face, point blank, and shredded me with the minigun.

I superfrowned at this, naturally. Replication completed, I strode back into the town. This time a man with a knife ran up to me upon spawn and insta-gutted me.

Ooohkay! So it happens right?

Wash, rinse, and repeat about 3 more times. Two of which I was merely skirting the town.

[End of the "APK" part of the narrative]

I can sympathize with those who are naturally short fused or merely want to play and have fun, not be harassed. However it has been mentioned earlier that there are no real game rules regarding this behavior.

I understand in the end, it is just a game and you are free to play it how you wish. Personally, I will never attack another player even if I'm under attack. I am one of the types that will just attempt to flee no matter what. My interest is PvE. Naturally that makes me easy prey, but I am not stupid, I bluesuit it.

Perhaps I should clarify, the only way I will attack someone is if there is a real reason for it, PvP designated beforehand, or in defending another person. I do not believe in probable cause or in being a defensive player, so to speak, killing others on sight.

Again, personal preference.

[Yes, I'm really typing this out, haha.]

However I do see the other side to the equation. I see the people who thrive on competition, the deviant side in those who choose to utilize it. I see the resources to be pillaged, the power to be gained, the fun to be had at other's expense. And I see the people who will not deny that they are doing it for the sheer thrill of it.

I do also see those who attempt to disguise the truth behind their actions. That I do have a qualm with, if you're going to murder someone for fun, at least be honest with it, ahah.

PvP is a way to play for a vast majority of people. You have two separate opposing ideologies in one game, you're naturally going to have conflicts. However I decided from day one, before I even joined my first game, after reading many forum posts here, that it is just a game, and each to his or her own.

I see a massive amount of disrespect and misplaced rage around here.

Here's how I see it. If someone kills me, yes there is that momentary spark of irritation. But hey, they're just playing the game. This is, after all, a beta. It's in constant change and I understand that as well.

I should probably also mention I'm heavily involved competitively in a few games that are in no way related to this or this discussion. The only pertinent point it brings to the table is as follows: Your losses only make you stronger and smarter in the end if you embrace the truth behind them. It's a game meant for enjoyment. I try and remember that this game is not just for me, there are other players and those players have feelings too.

[Moving on]

A lot of things have been said in this thread that I agree with. I mean, as I read on, my urge to post this declined because most of the things I have said or touched on have been discussed in full detail. I'll be honest, some people here are insanely good at this game and they take pride in it, and with pride comes a certain level of ego, and it can lead people to say some very silly things.

I respect that you enjoy this game and are great at it! I'll also admit that I have found my style of play seriously lacking in this environment. With my high latency, I'm often forced into real time combat and suffer greatly, but nevertheless I plunge on. I enjoy the encounters, and I learn from them.

To respond directly to the original post, I'm neutral as far as this list is concerned. I understand the desire to mark players who are as some would say, "Bullying players who clearly have no desire to engage in combat with another player." However, I've realized there's a ton of niches to fill in this community, and I'll be darned if I'm going to let a troll get the best of me. :] Sure they can have fun with my body, but that's okay, I'm having fun just being here, and there isn't much that can change that.

I think what resounds within me most strongly is my support for the developers and worthwhile players in this community. This free to play MMORPG has indeed made my week most assuredly excellent. I thank you all for the game that you have created, and the community that you have all come together to created, and I express my desire to be a part of it.

Anyways, I think I've languished on long enough about this.

I frequent the NCR a lot, I'm sometimes up at Vault City, and I hang around the Hub occasionally.

I'm usually in game as IcyJes.

See ya ;)

PS: I'm an idiot, forgot to say I'll probably be on IRC soon enough, too lazy to modify my current client's settings for use with FOnline's servers and channels. Heh, probably going to do that now. So! Catch me on IRC as IcyMew! \o/
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Alexandrite on January 29, 2012, 11:01:05 pm
You posted in the wrong place dude and HOLY F*#&ing shit! besides this is the black list topic... post this in the General Discussion thread... please remove this post  Moderators...  >:(
Title: Erm, what?
Post by: IcyMew on January 29, 2012, 11:16:07 pm
I think you should re-read what I have written, it does apply to this.

Skimming isn't a very good idea with detailed posts ;)

[Sorry, I thought a background would be pertinent, is it not?]

I realize I did go somewhat off topic, but I think it is pertinent to the thread in it's entirety.

After all, what wrong is an opinion set with some coherence?

Oh and back on topic, you can safely add DONT SHOOT to your list, he was described in the Klamath encounter.
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Alexandrite on January 29, 2012, 11:22:07 pm
Well then, next time, add the player name, not a biography about yourself...  :-\
Title: Fair enough.
Post by: IcyMew on January 29, 2012, 11:32:18 pm
Point taken.

However I have always believed that a certain threshold of derailment is allowed so long as the end product contributes to the discussion.

In further discussions I will be sure to check the precision of my points to ensure absolute adherence to the subject matter.

Nevertheless, for further discussion on this issue, I ask you to PM me directly about issues pertaining to my posts or my behavior.

Pretty please? Thanks!

I also rechecked my logs and I was unable to identify the knifing griefer. He was russian, that's about all I can remember.

Hmph, some help I was.
Title: Re: Erm, what?
Post by: JovankaB on January 30, 2012, 12:50:26 am
I think you should re-read what I have written, it does apply to this.

Skimming isn't a very good idea with detailed posts ;)

[Sorry, I thought a background would be pertinent, is it not?]

I realize I did go somewhat off topic, but I think it is pertinent to the thread in it's entirety.

After all, what wrong is an opinion set with some coherence?

Nothing wrong, your post was great. <3

One small comment - not everyone with Cyrillic name is a Russian
(I'm guessing that's why you said knifer was Russian, if I'm wrong then sorry).
It's used in a few countries, some not even close geographically to Russian Federation.
And it can be used by people from other countries or even by people who don't know Cyrillic alphabet.

I try to fight with Russian stereotype in this game. ;D
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Frenchy on January 30, 2012, 12:54:46 am
There's my black list
Title: Herp n derp!
Post by: IcyMew on January 30, 2012, 12:58:30 am
Thanks JovankaB for the positive feedback!

Also, you're 100% correct. Please excuse my complete ignorance on the topic.

I'll try and screen them next time, lol.

Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Frenchy on January 30, 2012, 01:13:36 am
You need glasses + cigs
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Pagrer on February 06, 2012, 06:33:29 pm
Marko i not have pers - .Pagrer
i have:
.Pagrer.
_Pagrer_
Рырга
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: X_Treme on February 10, 2012, 12:58:01 am
Grim's Reapers;

you said "grim reapers pks" haha, and i dont saw any member of reapers there hahaha, you call us pks, cuz we love the pvp in reno.... we are not pks, we are pvpers
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on February 10, 2012, 02:46:16 am
I want to be on list, I feel neglected!
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Hects Hakal on February 10, 2012, 04:04:19 am
Anyway the list is too long for memorizing thus useless ;)
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Gob on February 11, 2012, 12:02:41 am
Russian names do have an effect. They scare noobs away :))).
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: headshot on February 11, 2012, 09:40:18 am
we are not pks, we are pvpers
Oh, so if I meet your overgeared characters in the desert should I feel safe?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: X_Treme on February 11, 2012, 10:38:58 am
Oh, so if I meet your overgeared characters in the desert should I feel safe?

yep  ;D, if you are a bluesuite or in a low level character, we dont attack, would rarely find "reapers" in the desert, cuz we play in towns
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Glave on February 12, 2012, 04:27:09 am
PNEUMOCOCK

awwyeah
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on March 21, 2012, 02:05:35 pm
Is this Black List dead?
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Ganado on March 21, 2012, 08:27:31 pm
Nope, because you just had to revive the useless topic...
Title: Re: Black List
Post by: Chrupek on March 21, 2012, 10:20:59 pm
Succesful dig is succesful:)
About the list, here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9uMJWtNww&ob=av3e#t=00m14s