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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Faction Announcements => Topic started by: gr1m055 on December 15, 2011, 03:29:53 am
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Hello and greetings wastelanders. As we all know the wipe well be soon, and there has been a hint that the wipe well be sooner than soon.
The name of this faction is unknown at this time, and well probably use the name of the town control base. My plans post wipe is to buy a empty base which not be used as a supply base, and use the name for town control. This faction well be strictly for PvP and well be an alliance base.
Here is how this faction well operate, as we all know many of us are part of factions and many different factions have leaders. The leaders and trusted members of these factions well be given the ability to add their members freely.
Here are the rules of this faction.
-No shooting allies in the back
-No looting allies gear
Main Goal of this faction:
-To have sufficient numbers to take on other post-wipe big PvP factions
-To fight other factions and to guard held towns
Whether the faction well be anti-pk or pk when it holds a town well be decided and discussed by members. This faction well be a democracy and not a dictatorship. Anybody can command in a TC battle if you feel you are good at it.
Since many players play together and have trusted friends and its hard to trust people in this game, this well be a bring your own gear to battle faction. Whether you have a group of friends that help each other or if you are self sufficient anybody is welcomed as long as they obey the 2 rules. Current session faction disputes well be and should be set aside as this is a fresh start. If anybody wants to create a supply base for this faction they can, but I well say do it at your own risk, its best if everybody is self sufficient or have their own tents/bases with friends they trust.
This faction well not be a noob helper faction and its goal is not to supply others with gear. This is a PvP faction for a base name which makes it easier to take and hold towns.
If this faction does not work out, and everybody goes a different direction post wipe, Me and McDoctor aka McLooter well be recruiting if anybody is interested in PvP and town control post wipe.
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would be interesting to see how this sort of faction works out. I think it's still too earlier to discuss postwipe politics though.
anyway, I wish you the best of luck.
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Well I took the post wipe FCP as a sign of the wipe being very very soon. But you are right its a bit early to dicuss politics but its my idea to get a post wipe faction going. Depending how the politics go and if everybody I want joins this faction this is what I would like. If it doesn't work this way I am still going to attempt to create a PvP faction, if the faction is too small and doesn't work out I well probably just join another faction or do freelance work as a mercenary. This is just hypothetical. And hopefully I can get all these guys to join it would be fun.
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Sounds like an interesting faction... well planned and well thought out! The way I like it... :P
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I agree with Those Who Think It's early to speak of it. :)
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Well that's why I would give leaders and high ranking members of these factions the ability to add their members to the base. It is just an idea anyways.
Like I said, if nobody wants to do it this way they don't have to I am going to attempt to create this faction whether everybody I have invited agrees to it or not.
I just want to make it easier to create a big faction than what we have currently, everybody is added to too many different base names. This is just a thought, well it happen who knows?
Its easier to get a TC faction and hold towns when everybody isn't added to over 9,000 different bases.
But we well see how it goes, once I get this base I well advertise for PvP players to join and see if the leaders of these factions well join, if they don't then I just make my own faction and attempt to recruit. If it fails I join another faction that is successful. I cannot play this game if there is no action, and no town control I enjoy pvp and town control battles the most and I well try to keep the action going next wipe with a base.
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I'm sure you'll be fine. There's only 4 baserapers in that list.
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Military organization for combat purposes , good.
More organized teams than usual are always welcomed.
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I'm sure you'll be fine. There's only 4 baserapers in that list.
That is why the base well be empty and well be a bring your own gear to battle. The whole purpose of having an empty base for a TC name and no supply bases is so it doesn't get base raped. I mean really its whoever fault for letting these so called 4 base rapers into whichever faction they base raped into their supply base. I mean come on, if you're going to start a big PvP faction you don't have the TC name base as a supply base also. This also filters out base rapers because they well lose interests and not talk to you once they find out that the main base is empty and people bring their own gear into battle. I generally think its owner of the base fault when it gets based raped for bringing in random people, not being smart about it and not associating the risks.
And I have yet to be based raped by these so called 4 base rapers, I do not care if anybody is a base raper or likes to give away free stuff to people this well be a PvP faction with the intention of controlling towns and fighting other factions. This faction is about PvP nothing more nothing less.
Like I said if anybody wants to be in this faction and want to help each other with gear with people you trust go for it, but that is not the purpose of this faction is to have a massive amount of gear to share with everyone. That is how I have done PvP my entire PvP career I've brought my own gear and share a supply cave with people I trust. And when I have won a battle I try to loot what I can and bring it to a tent/car loot is hardly shared the way I have done PvP. This is what I am used to and this is how it well be done.
I generally do not like being the guy who has to craft and supply everything and nobody helps or contributes that is not how I like to do things so its best if people are self sufficient or just share stuff with people they trust. I mean I generally think people who do not have their own stuff to bring to a fight are noobs and mooches. I generally think people should not be PvPing if they cannot supply themselves.
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Why would anybody want to be in a faction full of base rapers and noobs?
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You mad that your stupid plan to shoot us all in our backs failed? And now you're going to troll my thread in revenge?
I would take base rapers and noobs over immature kids who try to sabotage pvp by shooting their allies in the back and making up a bunch of stories, yes we know it was you tallset now go away. At least these guys have skills and are good fighters and I have done a lot of action with them. I have respect for them even if they are base rapers and PKers.
I would generally accept anybody from any faction from this session if they are serious about joining and serious about PvP. Tallset you are the only person that I would not accept joining this faction. I can't stand people who shoot allies in the back and loot allies gear and that is exactly what you had planned. It was an epic fail you are too obvious. At least these supposed 4 base rapers are smoother than you are LOL. If its anybody who is noob its you.
Oh and tallset also reminded me, I would prefer mature players and serious PvP players for those who are interested in being in a PvP faction next wipe.
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Excuse me, if I didnt read attentively, but this idea is works already some time, for example TTTLA + C88 like CoA. If i know, they havent problem swarmed another smaller factions. Next ones can be The eaceKeepers, The Panzers, GN13...
You guys, will have propably under one faction almost each smaller gangs, which havent a change to get some TC or PVP, its good for me and rightly for others and I support it.
But!
What will you do, if got for example twice more people, then enemies, which start take your city. Does it means, that you first time check number of enemies and then half of people which come to TS, Mumble, whatever to enjoy some fight, will not go to action? I think it wil be not work, its hard them say: "no, we got enough people go back to craft, just half of people here can go to TC".
I think that by the time, you will have the most people on the server and only you like one faction will do TC, so its a same case like TTTLA alliance.
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why you want to create swarm aliance? can we make group o5-6 of 10-15 players gang which are fighting everyone with everyone? i am sick of fighting with tttla zerling swarm 3:1 because we can kill them all but it is annoying and it kills tc. if you dont have to many players buy mercs and i know everyone did that but no one will say that in open use proxy with mercs. so there can be balance between gangs, not just like it was few months ago CS vs rest swarm. 13 vs 28+
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Better idea is, that will be exist just 2 PVP base, or 3, 4 PVP base for much more interesting fights containing all people from FOnline server and regular checking numerous bettween both (more) these big groups, something like Desert Europe project, Blue vs Red, but if you want to have only one PVP base it will be just another big swarm.
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base planning will be changed. you can now buy few bases under one name. i want few medium gangs because more gangs - more tc fight more fun...you can fight like tttla on 3rd-4th but it isnt point of tc. jump in kill whatever is still alive and take the loot and run away on wm...i prefer die come back with full gear fight kill/die and shoot shoot shoot...;]
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why you want to create swarm aliance? can we make group o5-6 of 10-15 players gang which are fighting everyone with everyone? i am sick of fighting with tttla zerling swarm 3:1 because we can kill them all but it is annoying and it kills tc. if you dont have to many players buy mercs and i know everyone did that but no one will say that in open use proxy with mercs. so there can be balance between gangs, not just like it was few months ago CS vs rest swarm. 13 vs 28+
Because all the people who rage quit are waiting for wipe, and when the server wipes there well be a lot more players coming back to play which well make factions big again. A group of 5-6 is hardly enough to do town control. And I am sick of TTTLA zergling swarms also, and I have reasons to believe they are going to continue doing it next wipe once they build up again.
It sucks playing 3:1 I know that is why I want to attempt to make a swarm alliance PvP faction so there can be 1:1 15vs15, 28 vs 28 etc.
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Swarm , swarm , swarm .... people whine too much , it's proven in practice while being outnumbered it's still possible to pull out victories with appropriate strategies and teamwork. Instead of using an excuse that you lost because gang x had y more people is the wrong way how to look at things when they don't go as planned , if you and your team wish to improve at all. Otherwise this.
And I am sick of TTTLA zergling swarms also,
It sucks playing 3:1 I know = swarm = PvP = faction
swarm this and that , we can't because swarm , mean old swarmers
Is getting old.
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This is so wrong :(
Why people forget about me.. I should be one inside of that faction.
I started become famous on this season and even more on next season.. ;)
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Swarm , swarm , swarm .... people whine too much , it's proven in practice while being outnumbered it's still possible to pull out victories with appropriate strategies and teamwork. Instead of using an excuse that you lost because gang x had y more people is the wrong way how to look at things when they don't go as planned , if you and your team wish to improve at all. Otherwise this.
Is getting old.
I just loved how you changed my words around. Whats wrong with trying to start a swarm faction so we can have swarm vs swarm battles and town control with the new perks and have fun next wipe?
I have the most fun doing big battles, small gang stuff is fun also but I want to get action going next wipe with a new faction.
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I just loved how you changed my words around.
Cool
Whats wrong with trying to start a swarm faction so we can have swarm vs swarm battles and town control with the new perks and have fun next wipe?
Huh?
I have the most fun doing big battles, small gang stuff is fun also but I want to get action going next wipe with a new faction.
Okay , no debate about that.
Depends on what do you mean by swarm faction and to fight swarm versus swarm , by the way why the emphasis on the word swarm and do you realize that after wipe current alliances will split for a while ?
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Yes factions well split up and new factions formed, but I just want to get a PvP faction going that is all. I mean the majority of people have stopped playing waiting for the wipe so I would expect a big amount of players coming back.
And what I mean by a swarm is massive numbers. So there is massive numbers vs massive numbers. Like 20 vs 20 players town control.
I am not talking about making a huge faction to around killing a 4 person gang with 20.
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I like how you want to make a swarm faction without any idea of what the future gang constellation will look like. In fact, you're just contributing to the cause of more swarm after wipe, as if you didn't have enough of it this season already.
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Yes factions well split up and new factions formed, but I just want to get a PvP faction going that is all.
And what I mean by a swarm is massive numbers. So there is massive numbers vs massive numbers. Like 20 vs 20 players town control.
I see ... alright. :) just make sure you don't end up with ridiculous amounts of people at start , otherwise you will take the same reputation tttla has now , no offense against tttla. Still as far as i know they don't over exaggerate with the numbers anymore.
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I see ... alright. :) just make sure you don't end up with ridiculous amounts of people at start , otherwise you will take the same reputation tttla has now , no offense against tttla. Still as far as i know they don't over exaggerate with the numbers anymore.
we never had more than 15 people at the same time for the last 3 months and being outnumbered 90% of the time let's rephrase that to greater numbers 10% of the time, equal numbers 40% and less numbers 50% of the time.
just finally had to get that out of my system.
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And now the story about Father Frost, please.
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And now the story about Father Frost, please.
cant help it that you only got to see the 10% of actions I mentioned earlier.
In what gang are you anywhere that you even talk about us that way? Probably not even involved in tc and just talking shit on forums all day for the hell of it.
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U talking shit on the forum all day, so its reason why I have answered you this manner. And now please that story.
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we never had more than 15 people at the same time for the last 3 months and being outnumbered 90% of the time let's rephrase that to greater numbers 10% of the time, equal numbers 40% and less numbers 50% of the time.
just finally had to get that out of my system.
Alright , alright. Sadly , it still doesn't change what they think about you. People with a very bad sense of judgement will still think of you as " swarmers " and what not. What you explained might only lead for people flaming again showing screens and " blablablaba here you were 16 x days ago , stop lying noob " , so i would be more careful next time posting stuff like that ;D
U talking shit on the forum all day, so its reason why I have answered you this manner. And now please that story.
See like this individual ... *cough* animal
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I think that you have answer to everything, because you "ANDROID". ::)
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I think that you have answer to everything, because you "ANDROID". ::)
No, no. It's iOS.
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No, no. It's iOS.
Again you :), please create own posts, I cant feed you forever.
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Let me suck ma mom's milk :'(
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Ok enough of this stupid troll bickering.
No nobody knows whats going to happen to the major pvp gangs and factions next wipe. Its all just hypothetical thinking. Or if you are bad at English its just a thought or something thought up for something that hasn't happened. Its just a thought and something I would attempt to get going. I have the most fun this session doing big number town control fights and would like to get a faction going next wipe so this type of fun continues.
And anybody who is in tttla/c88 gets tired of the swarm term because its true, you guys do swarm and always have numbers when others don't. But that is not what this discussion is about, its a pre-planned thought of starting a PvP town control faction next wipe. I just want to get a faction going for players who love PvP and town control.
But you know it could go either way it could be a lot of people splitting up starting small gang factions, or the current players well stick with theirs and re-create their big numbered factions. Nobody knows for sure, but I am simply stating that I am creating a PvP faction next wipe and would like for anybody who likes PvP to join so we can fight other factions who are the same. Its just to keep the fun going next wipe for PvP players.
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Those who don't take this serious, after wipe they'll whine about getting pk'ed. Then they'll join TTTLA/c88 swarm, and they remain the happiest people in the world for whole their life.
I am capitalist now. I can see my self in the future, paying people to play game for money, like Chinese farmers, then I'll show you PVP.
We rage therefore we are.
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Or... they might get PKd then turn pkers themselves.
I do not think tttla/c88 are the happiest people around, they got a taste of their own medicine on what its like to be swarmed, then they start losing a lot of battles lately and I hardly see children of atom holding any towns now that they are losing more battles.
I do not think I would be a happy person if I was in a faction in which everybody hates and is the #1 target of trolls.
Oh and TTLA never claimed to be anti-pk, better be careful calling them anti-pk because they might post a bondage fetish picture with your 2238 alias on it. Nobody knows whats going to be the politics of next wipe for all we know tttla well be disbanned along with C88. I mean current members might take what they know playing with them and try to create their own faction. Or they might attempt to re-create children of atom nobody knows.
Come on marko I thought you knew better, there is no such thing as anti-pk. People sign up for crazy88 because they hate PKers then all they end up doing is town control and killing members of other factions who are about keeping a mining town safe like our friends in broken hills hunters. Or they go fight other PvP groups who generally aren't random PKers like hawks.
We're all capitalist, paying somebody to play a video game for you isn't really capitalism its a good way to get your self into the poor house. People who pay Chinese video game farmers do so, so they can sell rare items and money on a website for people who do not want to spend hours on end farming. Capitalism is about profit there is no profit in paying somebody to do something for you without making a profit. And that's why we need more games more like 2238, I'm sure there's plenty of people who would love to PK Chinese farmers but are restricted to do so because of game mechanics. I generally do not like these types of business they have somebody hog all the farming spots make it difficult for somebody who wants to do it themselves without paying real life money. And it gets annoying when a server is flooded with advertisements for these types of businesses. It ruins video games if you ask me, whats the challenge in getting a rare item if you can just pay money to have it?
But anyways just my thought on that. Back to the issue at hand, post-wipe faction there has been much discussion on this so I do not know if this faction well go as planned as I had written a few post earlier. But there is a plan to get a big faction going ;) is all I can say for now.
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I do not think tttla/c88 are the happiest people around...
I love it how you make these massive assumptions about us. It just shows how little you really know.
I do not think I would be a happy person if I was in a faction in which everybody hates...
This should go straight into the epic quotes section.
Are you a happy person Gr1m?
I officially rage quit I can't take this game any longer too much bull shit that pisses me off and hope you all burn in hell.
You sure?
...there is no such thing as anti-pk.
There is no such thing as anti-pk in the way you decribe it, but for us, it does exist. I suggest you read our updated wiki information.
..all they end up doing is town control and killing members of other factions who are about keeping a mining town safe like our friends in broken hills hunters.
You seem to forget that bhh are only non-pk in broken hills, as you have all told me countless times. I have seen you and your friends raid redding often when CoA or even Tsar have owned it. I see nothing wrong is seeking revenge for such deeds.
Or they go fight other PvP groups who generally aren't random PKers like hawks.
This season is ending, and one of the last enjoyable things left is pvp. Do you see the Hawks complaning? I don't, and I believe that to be because they are also seeking some enjoyable fights.
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I never said I was happy person and never claimed to be. But continue believing the anti-pk bullshit :) And yes we all write stupid things when we are raging, I was pissed off a rollback put me in the middle of broken hills and I logged on in middle of sneaky raiders when they were taking the town when I wrote that particular post.
So tell me you wouldn't rage if you were going to save redding and because of a roll back all your faction members are in middle of town and get shot 1 by 1 logging into the game by the enemy faction taking it?
And you're faction didn't attack TSAR LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL! HA! You guys are the reason why they are never around you guys basically just stomped their role play project with your tttla allies. At least the few people I played with at the time fought them because it was an even fight and we never took the town we just fought them for fun. And TSAR also had fun fighting us and we consider it the good ol days before your group came around and ruined a perfectly good thing.
Redding was a fun town to hang out with miner alts until you guys came along and start shooting everybody, and pulling the stupid wall of justice bull shit. Redding is a dead roleplay project no thanks to your group and nobody goes there any more its a dead town practically.
Still believing you're fighting factions because they are PKers that need revenge upon? The way I see it your higher ups just say "anti-pk" and use it as a recruiting mechanism so they can get numbers for town control. I highly doubt Leon gives a rat ass about people getting PK'd. You know guys like TTTLA and Leon are more interested in the action than hunting down PKers.
You know when I first started doing PvP with BHH C88 attacked the town daily for the mere enjoyment of town control action and nothing more along with TTTLA. I don't think they came to broken hills to fight BHH to get revenge on pkers.
But you know you guys never like the taste of your own medicine we secretly set up to do a massive swarm on you guys with hawks then you guys start crying about swarm and rage. It was epic and I think it puts a smile on everybody's face thinking about it. Then you in particular come in to broken hills peacefully just want to chat, and I shoot you which is pretty much what your faction does to people in redding.
But you know this seems like you wanted to do a personal attack on me because you generally do not like me more so discussing a post wipe faction which I doubt you would join. Haters going to hate 8)
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And you're faction didn't attack TSAR LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL! HA! You guys are the reason why they are never around you guys basically just stomped their role play project with your tttla allies.
first off, tsar denied to have any intentions of doing rp in redding, they always said they only wanted the town for the sake of it (caps, mercs and militia, nothing wrong with that). SO your argument is already invalid by now, I wouldnt even need to continue.
However, your hypocrisy totally needs to be fed so I continue to say that Tsar with their 5members back then took redding off a 10-20 member alliance. Let me rephrase that: They attacked the territory of a by then politically neutral gang without a good reason. And now to add to that, C88 and TTTLA ALWAYS had the policy to support roleplay, even if pvp towns are sacrificed.
If a 5guy gang like tsar or bhh want to have a town, what do they do? Of course they dont come on irc and talk to the gang holding that town, asking if it's ok to take it for roleplay (which would have been accepted) but they just attack it.
And what do we do? Of course we are bad bad pk's if we play the game as it is intended to play by doing tc.
You know when I first started doing PvP with BHH C88 attacked the town daily for the mere enjoyment of town control action and nothing more along with TTTLA. I don't think they came to broken hills to fight BHH to get revenge on pkers.
Same problem as above. We own broken hills, bhh go in and try to take, we go in and defend the town. It was already 2 weeks until we received word that BHH were active again to do some roleplay in that town. I personally tried to get the word out to BHH that they are welcome to negotiate with us about the town.
This is actually more "rp" than standing around in downtown, boring the hell out of each others bluesuits.
but anyway, bhh kept attacking and we kept defending. If they are 5 guys and we are 10, well, they are in the weaker position and should contact us first, this is how a wasteland would work, right? Or maybe we should kindly ask anyone that tries to take our town if they want some pie to go with that?[/quote]
But you know you guys never like the taste of your own medicine we secretly set up to do a massive swarm on you guys with hawks then you guys start crying about swarm and rage. It was epic and I think it puts a smile on everybody's face thinking about it.
yeah, I remember that weekend of hawks rage. Started out on friday with a chain of fights in broken hills, 20 against 35+ militia iirc. We won these fights and after that weekend, this sort of "alliance" fell apart and hawks cooled down a bit.
or maybe you mean the tsar rage, when tsar, hawks, amboys, rouges and whatnot teamed up to take back redding, that we so wrongfully attacked? see above.
and also, I think these last posts certainly are related to the topic of creating big alliances. In fact, we are all discussing just that,
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It's just the way brick makes it sound like "HE BADDY WITH HIS BADDY FRIENDS ATTACKING SAMARTIANS". But you guys attacked them also... With more numbers than I ever did.
No No I am not talking about recently, I'm talking about back in june/july when BHH was a huge faction and you guys would attack it daily. It was even stated by Leon that you guys didn't start winning many fights until you started fighting BHH, easy target to pick on which has nothing to do anti-pk. This was before children of atom I was referring to.
And nobody "needs permission" or negotiations to take a town. You take town attempt to defend it until it lost that is how this game goes no permission or negotiations.
Oh yes C88 notorious for taking towns then selling it to people then taking the town right back. We can't forget that stunt.
Look I have no problem with you guys taking towns doing PvP but stop acting like you're some sort of white knights who do no wrong and are anti-pk. You guys have just done too much dirty stuff to people to be called a white knight anti-pk group. I don't consider you guys anti-pk I consider you guys a pvp group. And I just love how you guys justify your actions as always being right LOL.
The Samartians held that town and were the anti-pk force of redding and actually made the town fun until you guys came along and made it impossible to take it back because of your 20+ person faction.
These evil Samaritans town stealing faction was a 5 person group in which you took 20 people to take the town and horde it for yourselves. That is what you guys generally do is gather 20+ people to kill a 5 person faction which is why generally nobody likes your faction.
You know you guys give the impression that you are some PK hunter group, but you don't really hunt down pkers do you, you guys just do town control for the sakes of fun and for the action just like anybody else. You guys still PK people when you hold these towns, you shoot blue suits, you guys are no different than any other pvp faction in this game. And the way I see it you guys don't negotiate to take towns either you just show up to take them, if anything you want to horde all the towns to your self because that's what you guys generally do, and you call me a hypocrite lol.
I don't ever see you guys negotiate with hawks, bhh or sneaky raiders if its ok to take their town, you guys do it no different than everybody else you just show up take the town don't give me that bull shit lol. I'm sure when children of atom holds every town on the map they asked all the factions who held the towns previously if they could take it ::)
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first off, tsar denied to have any intentions of doing rp in redding, they always said they only wanted the town for the sake of it (caps, mercs and militia, nothing wrong with that). SO your argument is already invalid by now, I wouldnt even need to continue.
We actually had some. But you know... without shouting "imma doin mah RP!" everywhere where we can. It happens when someone prefers doing more than just talkin'. I think you didn't accepted some BBS guys walkin' in Redding normally, so you've found first reason and attacked us. It's normal and nobody's upset. But that's my personal
stomped their role play project with your tttla allies
I'd like to call it that so-called "project" or wherever you call that have entered to the new phase.
@John Porno: Why do you still have butthurt about Sarmatians? Sth personal?
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I'd like to call it that so-called "project" or wherever you call that have entered to the new phase.
Yes a "project" is more suitable word than role play project but some how that is the terminology of the game. And PvP is more suitable than pk and anti-pk.
But you know I would hope that this sessions politics well be put aside and we have new and different factions than what we have currently.
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But you know I would hope that this sessions politics well be put aside and we have new and different factions than what we have currently.
Doesn't this contradict the whole point of this thread?
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The main problem that led to Redding project's dead is that people only thought about caps. The fact is we weren't grinding caps because the militia was extremly expensive to keep up. We thought about RP, you thought about caps, that's the difference but like Killian said nobody is upset because all TSARs knew it was going to go that way sooner or later. It was fun, we hope that people enjoyed it like we did but it's over by now.
Btw, if you think we didn't RP in Redding then you never came have a look John... yes we didn't claimed it everywhere but we did several RP events or simply talking RP in town.
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Yeah your guy's militia was ridiculous.
But you know here is where I think brick doesn't understand about PK. I had fun going into the town duking it out with Samartians. Sometimes other PKers from other factions would show up then I would get into a fight with them. It would get crazy at times we would show up to fight samartians then CS would be there then get into a small battle with them. Then when it came time to mine it was a fun place to stay around chat read funny roleplay chats on an alt nobody knew about. I think at one point redding was becoming like NCR for the place to hang out and to chat with other players. I mean at one point NCR would be dead and everybody was at redding being trolls.
.s PK AT MINE
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Oh yes C88 notorious for taking towns then selling it to people then taking the town right back. We can't forget that stunt.
Mkay?
Tsar "bought" den from us as we had for some time, i cant recall us taking town right back?
Strange how i was there sometimes to defend town with some of them 1-2 weeks in then.
Tsar probally know better then me how long it was they held it after they bought, as i recall it was quite some time.
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I vaguely remember but I think you guys sold a town to grim reapers then took it back right after. But hell what does it matter.
I just get sick of argueing pk and anti-pk, when I generally see C88 as a pvp faction and not an anti-pk faction. I have done both I have gone out and PKd and I have done anti-pk in broken hills. I just enjoy a good fight and that's what I generally would like to do next session is to keep the pvp going. And that's my overall impression of C88 you guys go attack other towns for the action more so than doing it for anti-pk reasons. I have fun doing PvP but its not fun fighting you guys when you have your giant swarm and I'm not in one. That is why I would hope to get a big faction going or in hopes to join one so I do not get stuck fighting 4 vs 20 like how it is for me in the current session.
Swarm vs Swarm battles is what I enjoy the most and I hope we get that kind of action going next wipe which is why I made this thread and thought about and wrote some ideas about a post-wipe faction.
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never sold town to grim reapers.
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I have fun doing PvP but its not fun fighting you guys when you have your giant swarm and I'm not in one.
First stop saying swarm so much, CoA doesn't seem to have as many players active anymore and from the battles I've seen recently and been in, the fights have been fairly equal more or less yet they are always being called swarm even if they weren't in a fight. Usually when I am at Reno, I start by myself or have one or two people with me while we fight you on equal numbers and then you call reinforcements.
Second, what do you call that Grim's Reapers + various other factions such as The Void?, Panzers?, BHH? thrown together to create one big group of players that only stay in Reno? I don't even know what to call you guys anymore. I apologize in advance if I got it all wrong, theres just so many and it changes up all the time I lose track and I probably did get the factions wrong but I just put you all under the same category as Grim's Reapers swarm, makes it alot easier for me. I guess this might be what some people are doing regarding CoA swarm?
Swarm vs Swarm battles is what I enjoy the most and I hope we get that kind of action going next wipe which is why I made this thread and thought about and wrote some ideas about a post-wipe faction.
How can you enjoy swarm vs swarm if you just said you havn't been in one?
Note: I'm not speaking for anyone and just talking from my own experience.
P.S. It was fun when I was helping Sarmatians defend against you and your friends daily attacks against Redding.
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The main problem that led to Redding project's dead is that people only thought about caps. The fact is we weren't grinding caps because the militia was extremly expensive to keep up. We thought about RP, you thought about caps, that's the difference but like Killian said nobody is upset because all TSARs knew it was going to go that way sooner or later. It was fun, we hope that people enjoyed it like we did but it's over by now.
Btw, if you think we didn't RP in Redding then you never came have a look John... yes we didn't claimed it everywhere but we did several RP events or simply talking RP in town.
nothing personal here, but just let me get this wrong.
the WHOLE tsar conflict and the WHOLE Hawks conflict woudl have been COMPLETELY avoided, if people actually talked and negotiated with each other.
From the TTTLA point of view, tsar just took one of their towns. period. Nothing happened. §weeks later their fingers began itching again, wanting to fight again in redding. I tell you, it was a relief after a month or so to finally be able to have tc in redding again.
But the point is, if you as the gang "The Sarmatians" would have made an official statement or conducted official discussions with the leaders of tttla and c88 then you would have gotten support for any RP in that town.
But you didn't.
Same thing for hawks, it was not until they already made up their minds about fighting us that they started official negotiations about how to solve this "problem". Also, the whole thing grew from little misunderstandings which can easily be solved by talking to each other and not going back to ones own mumble server, raging in one's mother tounge.
Same thing for BHH, instead of talking things out, everyone was fighting. We appreciated the PVP and we thought bhh would do the same.
And now to finally clear things up, with "official negotiations" I just mean that the higher ups of a gang talk to each other and that everyone can take everything word for word. I say this because we had a lot of problems with this sort of thing, "regular" members or even recruits saying something inside a town and the other gang think it's the official political standpoint of that whole gang, leading to even more misunderstandings.
Now the funny thing is, C88 always wants to talk. Instead of hiding on our own mumble server we made an irc channel that every member of every major gang can come into to talk. Now for some people that might not be the case we had some experiences with trolls and DoW irc scouts (lol) but members of the pk gangs dont need to talk anyway.
So, grim, if you have any problem with C88 in the future, what would be the best thing to do? Going onto the official forum and trying to let our own personal opinion (greatly influenced by the PE of your big gunner char) pass off as "fact" and "truth"? Yes of course, talking to us doesn't make any sense, right, You already heard it oftne enough on the forum, from people who never talked to us. They usually know best how impossible it is to talk with c88 eh.
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Second, what do you call that Grim's Reapers + various other factions such as The Void?, Panzers?, BHH? thrown together to create one big group of players that only stay in Reno?
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Honestly, I don't understand this behaviour. Either I have 2-6 guys and I go to Reno or I have a swarm and go doing some TC. What is the point of being inside Reno with 15+ people? Reno maps are not suited for this kind of fights.
the WHOLE tsar conflict and the WHOLE Hawks conflict woudl have been COMPLETELY avoided, if people actually talked and negotiated with each other.
I'm afraid that talking is not as popular as fighting :-\
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talked and negotiated with each other.
Some of us tried. On the both sides and you should know it.
You shoot "Outlaws" on sight. That's makes conversation a bit tricky.
Militia you guys says? The reason is the town security. Since we don't have manpower like the other sides, and we can't always ask Hawks for assistance we needed to find a countermeasure for the "prime time". That's all. You've got advantage anyways. You've got players, we got just stupid AI auxiliaries.
I said to Jackall, Leon, or even LeMark several times that we aren't mad or upsed in any ways. As Balio said it was fun, good battles but it's end of it now.
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LOL COA takes ALL the towns without negotiating with other factions but now we were suppose to negotiate with them if we want a town? I'll be sure when I enter one of your towns next wipe and say I'm here to negotiate with my .44.
Simon we can't keep an alliance together. We try to get our alliance back together then it splits and it gets tiresome. When these alliances split I have no faction basically and which why The Void was formed. And also lets see COA went inactive, COA started losing a lot of battles recently you put 2 and 2 together I smell rage quit. And Simon seriously STFU anybody who doesn't fight on side of COA knows EXACTLY what they do and why we say SWARM, they have done this the entire season. Of course nobody is going to complain when they got it easy and can kill everybody out numbered. And you say they are even numbered, and they are losing and can't hold their towns anymore, many have said this before you guys cannot fight without out numbering the opposing faction in a fight. I think anybody who is not in COA would agree to this.
But still you really want to complain about me "calling in reinforcements" What about that fight you showed up to in your shiny power armor when I was with BHH we were maybe 7 people you show up with 15. Or how about that time TTTLA showed in bh and we had 3 people defending the town and they show up with 8. This could go on forever... Or how about that time I was lone PKing in redding and 8 guys show up to kill me and bunch of trolls shouting at them? And how about the reasons why HAWKS were so pissed off and split alliance with TTTLA, they were doing friendly low tier gear fight and they show up 10 people fully geared and slaughter everybody. Seriously do not start this and nobody should be complaining that we attempt to outnumber anybody associated and members of COA. You guys have done this the ENTIRE season to everybody.
I don't know how to contact everybody they just show up, I don't have a big ww2 radio and call in reinforcements people just show up or they go to Reno and see their allies. And honestly I have no problem being in a big group and killing a small group of COA members because they have done it so many times to everybody. And I think your just complaining about the last fight we had in reno because you ramboed and died and your teammates left after we trapped you in Reno arms as planned.
And I have been in swarm battles, I fought c88/tttla alliance before it was called COA when we had a swarm also. In a way its our own fault we make a swarm then they ally make a swarm our alliance falls part theirs stays together is what basically happened. I've always been in a few fights with hawks alliance vs coa in redding also.
You know COA only exists because of us, hawks split alliance with TTTLA, TTTLA allied with C88 Hawks allied with us. Then Hawks broke alliance with us. Then our Alliance split off slowly. The Panzers was an attempt to get it back together but it fell apart and nobody came on to to do action. It just fucking sucks and I do not want to go through this again next session.
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Seriously, grim, this is not about making a contract EACH TIME THERE IS TC but just if a gang wants to secure one town for several weeks as tttla had redding with wwp, hawks wanted gecko, bhh want bh etc.
God, I thought at least that little bit of common sense could be taken for granted here.
edit: Now after reading the rest of it I wont even bother pointing out all the wrong things in your posts, but I really feel that your last sentence can't be overlooked:
C88 and TTTLA have been allied for more than a year now. The way you put (and the way you put everything else in your post) is completely wrong. And you know what the problem is? You will enver insight on TC because the only friends you got are the faceless blob, the void. You will never manage to be part of any of the major tc gangs that have been around for at least a year now.
The real fights were always happening between tttla, c88, hawks, vsb, rouges, cs and bbs. Not your shitty friends with bluesuit finesse laser snipers on residential. Of course you have a distorted image of tc If you always get steamrolled on BH residential by 15"tttla" after they fought 15 cs in redding.
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Seriously, grim, this is not about making a contract EACH TIME THERE IS TC but just if a gang wants to secure one town for several weeks as tttla had redding with wwp, hawks wanted gecko, bhh want bh etc.
God, I thought at least that little bit of common sense could be taken for granted here.
edit: Now after reading the rest of it I wont even bother pointing out all the wrong things in your posts, but I really feel that your last sentence can't be overlooked:
C88 and TTTLA have been allied for more than a year now. The way you put (and the way you put everything else in your post) is completely wrong. And you know what the problem is? You will enver insight on TC because the only friends you got are the faceless blob, the void. You will never manage to be part of any of the major tc gangs that have been around for at least a year now.
The real fights were always happening between tttla, c88, hawks, vsb, rouges, cs and bbs. Not your shitty friends with bluesuit finesse laser snipers on residential. Of course you have a distorted image of tc If you always get steamrolled on BH residential by 15"tttla" after they fought 15 cs in redding.
Yes, we are the only "real" friend he has. Really, I have no problem with TTTLA/C88 or CS..unlike gr1m do, it's just a game. The Void is just a small faction seeking PvP, before this we were just freelancers, we wern't really even "reese's gang" before this either, we just fought with the alliance. Since this alliance is gone, we formed our own thing. The alliance couldn't stay together since majority of it's faction's members couldn't speak english, unlike C88/TTTLA. On the other hand, we are not responsible for deaths of crappy finesse energy sniper builds of BHH, greasy killers, DoW, etc. We actually form plans for TC, but non of this is payed attention to by GR, panzers, etc since we have no power in these alliances.
And really we complaining about swarm? Everyone is a swarm in this game!
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I have done more than just New Reno residential pvp with the french if that's who you're referring to with the laser pistols.
And all your builds have stonewall which make it seem like laser is doing finesse damage, they lowered chance to cause insta-kills these laser sniper builds used to be insta-killing builds with better criticals. Better critical cause the luck roll to be too high where it doesn't cause bypasses, and since it only does x4 damage without a bypass it does shitty damage because of stonewall lowers the chance of knockouts and knockdowns which is primary use for laser. I give that you guys make good tank builds which is why it pisses a lot of people off who make sg and energy snipers.
And tell me why do you guys call yourself an anti-pk gang when you go in and steamroll a faction that is about anti-pk in broken hills who has very few numbers these days? You know I feel bad for brick you actually got him believing that you guys are some sort of heroes cleansing the wastelands of PKers. When I honestly think you're just a bunch of greedy bastards who want to hold all the towns for rewards and you stomp small gangs to fill your supply base.
Yes, we are the only "real" friend he has. Really, I have no problem with TTTLA/C88 or CS..unlike gr1m do, it's just a game. The Void is just a small faction seeking PvP, before this we were just freelancers, we wern't really even "reese's gang" before that either, we just fought with the alliance. Since this alliance is gone, we formed our own thing. The alliance couldn't stay together since majority of it's faction's members couldn't speak english, unlike C88/TTTLA. And really we complaining about swarm? Everyone is a swarm in this game!
Gee thanks, you just fed Johny Porno argument and making it sound like I have no other friends and now you make it sound like I'm more of a nobody than what he originally stated :X I And I also don't like CS because they all cheat with proxy characters and I get banned for it and they don't. And CS are generally pricks to me as well. And my main problem with COA is their "anti-pk" bullshit and people like brick expected me to be nice and he walks into a town I was guarding when he and other members have shot me countless times in redding when I came for the same reason in peace and to talk to other players. Any BHH member would have shot him also for being C88 BHH hates C88.
And Reese's gang was a joke because Reese has all his characters named Reese and we would enter redding for some action and people started calling us Reese's gang. And I thought it was LOLz to make a thread Reese's gang recruiting on here because there's all these "faction name" recruiting threads.
Its a forum I like to argue, I am just pointing out that they call themselves anti-pk and their members think they are the white knights of the wasteland (hey that would be a cool faction base name) and I am just simply arguing for argues sakes. What can I say I'm bitter and like to argue on forums. And its just role play really, I mean somebody has to point out their wrong doings so people stop joining their faction they have too many people and recruit on the false belief of anti-pk.
But you know if you guys were in my situation you would be very frustrated, I got dragged into a PvP alliance wasn't really part of any faction then these alliances split people go their separate ways then I get stuck playing with nobody, that is why I complain about these things. And this is exactly what I don't want to happen next wipe I do not want to get stuck in this shitty situation again and why I suggest a post wipe faction ahead of time.
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All of this stuff has been talked to death numerous times in the forum already, yet you keep starting such discussions again and again, with small sprinkles of ragequit inbetween, gr1m. Just call it a day and leave it, these threads are quite pointless as we can perfectly see again.
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All of this stuff has been talked to death numerous times in the forum already, yet you keep starting such discussions again and again, with small sprinkles of ragequit inbetween, gr1m. Just call it a day and leave it, these threads are quite pointless as we can perfectly see again.
But I like my icecream with rage quit sprinkles on top. It was fine until C88 swarmed my post :X Ok I'll keep my mouth shut.
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Having your name controlling a town doesn't mean shit.
You can see from videos recently that even though they were "omg extremly hard to find even numbered fights" that CoA can fight and win on equal numbers easily.
And I'm not bragging but when I go for rambo reno runs or with a few guys, we take your guys pretty easy (and mcdoctors slaves/mercs) so you of all people should know that even if we don't have "swarm" we can fight equally as good as anyone else. TC is for bigger groups of players like Kelin said so don't whine that you are being swarmed because you can't rack up enough players for tc. You should see that most of the people you play with don't say CoA swarm CoA swarm in every second post they make unlike you, your the only one who is saying this.
I think I will stop here though before I get into a infinity loop of arguments with you, this is why I never bother posting in these faction rage threads and no one wins, like Surf said it's pointless and goes on and on spawning the same useless shit. Many of the posts on issues related to this don't mean anything to me much like my posts probably don't mean anything to you but what matters and is important to me is what happens inside the game. Less talking more action.
If you want to discuss this further as usual I will be ingame with my avenger and I will let it do all the talking for me, you can cry and complain on the forums as much as you want, no one really gives two shits if your being swarmed or not, in my experience you die the majority of the time anyway and I'm starting to get tired of reading through your essays of posts on the forum.
In regards to your original post, why wait until after wipe to make your alliance, why don't you just do it now so you can counter this so called swarm. If you can't organize an alliance then tough titties and you deserve to be a loser but just don't cry about it on the forums, this is factions mod a team game.
Note that skilled players are greater than swarm.
I also like how you told me to shut up after making only one post.
Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield with or without a swarm behind me.
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I wanna join this faction, player name: Visek.
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But I like my icecream with rage quit sprinkles on top. It was fine until C88 swarmed my post :X Ok I'll keep my mouth shut.
You're original post was intended to create a large faction post-wipe to counter the CoA alliance (assuming it continues post-wipe).
Because of this, are you honestly suprised that we have joined this mess of a conversation, especially when you yet again continue to throw wild accusations against me, and my fellow teammates.
I have no issues with your original post, and I highly doubt any C88 does either. However, if you truely want people to take you even the smallest bit seriously, quit throwing around wild accusations, and abusing other factions.
... people like brick expected me to be nice and he walks into a town I was guarding when he and other members have shot me countless times in redding ..Rabble Rabble..
This is what I mean by wild accusations. Never have I shot you in redding when you have attempted to 'hang' in Redding. I do not understand where you get these ideas of yours from. It also seems that your memory is fading as to that example you speak of, in which I came to chat in Broken Hills only to be killed by you. You apologised that very day, saying that you thought I was Slaz (God knows why you thought that).
Any BHH member would have shot him also for being C88 BHH hates C88.
I have been to Broken Hills plenty of times when you have not been there, and have not once been shot by BHH members, McLooter, and suprisingly Reese while the town has been BHH owned.
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And I'm not bragging but when I go for rambo reno runs or with a few guys, we take your guys pretty easy (and mcdoctors slaves/mercs)
I agree on you except for mercs/slave part, I don't use these as much as I used to, I have use these if i'm alone, just for shits and giggles (homesteaders with frags), or maybe a few time for BHH, But I don't use these in reno not even sometimes. As for those small reno battles, it is hard to fight you guys when you are all BG tanks and each guy of yours has taken at least 8 SS, while we are a lot more conservative and taking 4-5 at max, and not even all of us are BG, which I intend that reno is made for BG builds. Soon or later we'll get better at this. :p
I have been to Broken Hills plenty of times when you have not been there, and have not once been shot by BHH members, McLooter, and suprisingly Reese while the town has been BHH owned.
I havn't shot you (probably now I would since you guys attack the town so much, but I wait for the wipe anyways.) because I don't really care if you stand there all day in BHH, unless you were scouting. About reese, he may not be the little base-raper you remember, he is just a kid, and really he was just following BHH rules and not shooting blues, because he hasn't known your character.
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I agree with what Brick said and have been shown the same hospitality from players like McDoctor, Reese and Sega_RUS. They are actually quite nice people.
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Ok I was told to give it rest but I well just say this one last thing and I stop making a total ass of myself as usual. In all reality its a game and have fought COA so many times its just roleplay and I just write this crap to recruit and gain influence. I'm just trying to get people's attention and try to make their faction look bad just like how they say I play with base rapers and Pkers are evil. And brick its the people you are associated with, just as it is for me. It all boils down to we are opposing factions its not wise for any one of us to walk into a town that is held by a faction that you shoot at on a daily biases.
And Simon sometimes our fights are better than others. We live in America server is located in France there is a delay in our reactions, the game is generally easier for Europeans in PvP because they do not have a delay. Trust me I am a twitch gamer I am very fast with a mouse and click. I end up spam clicking on people then the weapon shoots a second later, when I am aiming and clicking in miliseconds. And you guys are all basically x2 toughness builds with stone wall and probably use psycho which makes it difficult to kill on top of bringing like 12+ super stims to every right. Plus that one night when you came to reno 2vs3 we were dicking around not being serious. We brought stupid builds like a .223 pistol build a grenade build and I forgot what the 3rd one was. We PK'd a hinkly bug abuser and stole all his stuff we just ramboed with the gear because it was going to disapear anyways. You really think we would have came back 10 times to Rambo with full if it wasn't hinkly gear and playing like idiots?
The night you came in with more people we were playing serious, sure the first fight you got us trying to rush a corner, that corner sucks trying to rush when you guys have rocket launchers. But then we thought it out and what a good tactic would be and you guys just ended up leaving the map because there was nothing you could do being trapped in reno arms. And that was an even number fight and you didn't own us as usual because you didn't out number us to kill us in less than a minute, and the end result was you guys giving up and leaving. You cannot tell me that fight was too easy for you.
Look we know how factions like COA and Sneaky Raiders win fights. But we don't all use proxy and fast logging programs. And its too late in the session to create new characters and who knows what the other people are doing that we play with these days to try and coordinate.
There is generally 2 ways to kill these types of builds 1. Focus fire rocket launchers, 2. Plasma. Plasma is a bit risky as it relies on crit rolls but it can kill tank builds very easily.
Its not like were stupid players, we know how to think strategically, we know how you guys win. And how the majority of factions win but we can never coordinate anything and nobody generally listens, or we can't find numbers.
TTTLA/C88 Max DR / HP Tanks, plasma and Gauss and Rambo Lemark with a sniper rifle
BBS = Focus fire with all crit rocket builds
Sneaky Raiders = All Max DR / Tanks usually 1-2 snipers and merc leaders who add mercs during the tc timer
Hawks = Have a blend of everything
There are ways to counter all these faction's builds and strategies (except sneaky raiders add 10 rocket launcher mercs to militia fucking cheap tactic and the game wasn't suppose to allow you to add mercs during the tc timer).
I have done more than just shoot people with a finesse laser build in Reno ;)
I have been to Broken Hills plenty of times when you have not been there, and have not once been shot by BHH members, McLooter, and suprisingly Reese while the town has been BHH owned.
You know I have alts right and I don't use GR1M for all my characters...
I agree with what Brick said and have been shown the same hospitality from players like McDoctor, Reese and Sega_RUS. They are actually quite nice people.
But I can see where this going. I can admit I'm not a nice person and I do rage, and I have a temper its one of my flaws in life but oh well.
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Gr1m has 300% at Steal skill and has already stolen a lot of your time with his posts, guys. Seriously, I see no reason to pay any more attention to him.
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TTTLA/C88 Max DR / HP Tanks, plasma and Gauss and Rambo Lemark with a sniper rifle
BBS = Focus fire with all crit rocket builds
Sneaky Raiders = All Max DR / Tanks usually 1-2 snipers and merc leaders who add mercs during the tc timer
Hawks = Have a blend of everything
I am aware of that you don't know much about other teams or are somehow a good player , if you are well then you are playing with some animals and can't do nothing about anything , keep whining about swarm and how bad other teams are ,. It's why all this have gone too much to your head. Miserable and pathetic.
Look we know how factions like COA and Sneaky Raiders win fights.
To be fair and honest once in a while , chosen soldiers are one of the teams i see as a threat in equal number , expecting harsh failure for even one major mistake and even tttla can put up a hell of fight due to their main strength - discipline. Try to actually fight only the actual tttla members in smaller numbers and not swarm. I think i have a good sense of judgment about others but you sure don't.
Another thing , few days ago there was a fight between rogues and chosen soldiers in redding , we won , but the fight was really unfair , i mean we just spawned merceneries from all sides just no chance , we got a little carried away with npc's. After that we went to a place to fight without merceneries for a fair fight. Do you see any chosen soldiers whining about it on forum ?
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And all your builds have stonewall which make it seem like laser is doing finesse damage, they lowered chance to cause insta-kills these laser sniper builds used to be insta-killing builds with better criticals. Better critical cause the luck roll to be too high where it doesn't cause bypasses, and since it only does x4 damage without a bypass it does shitty damage because of stonewall lowers the chance of knockouts and knockdowns which is primary use for laser. I give that you guys make good tank builds which is why it pisses a lot of people off who make sg and energy snipers.
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I wanna join this faction, player name: Visek.
Most likely a spy.
Come with me Gr1m. I'm the one who showed you this game, now I play with your countryman, you shouldn't play with foreigners, language barrier. You are not member or Greasy killers nor Grim's Reapers, you are with BHH but they speak Russian, Spanish, French 90% of the time. And they all suck.
We play smart, you know where to find me. Don't play with stupids, or with assholes. It's nolife, virtual life, remember? They wrote about me that I'm Niko Belic wannabe, and I never played that game in my life. They don't know better.
Truth is that someone wins and someone loses, by which manners it doesn't matter when there's nobody to judge, there's no god or rules. I who has the most morals they called an immoral person and without a state of mind. But they are all bastards who'd join up with the devil if possible to win in pvp. You be like them or you suck, your own choice.
I quit playing with Besmrtnik. I said I won't play with any of those retardo people. Because of playing with him and rest of Croatians I ruined my reputation and membership with Rogues so I ended up trolling and fucking around with everyone. Now I found a gang which doesn't care about that and just wants to move forward, so I suggest you to team up with us. We don't PK, remember what I kept saying. If you keep your PK ethics it's your thing, but you say that they don't matter, so why you keep such ethics when they have no value. Even writing here I feel like talking to a wall. What will you mcdoctor and reese do after wipe? You believe that you are strong enough to make it trough? You depend a lot on numbers from other factions and possible spies. If you are ok with that, your problem.
What I mean is doing something serious, so do serious! -.- Or you stay shit.
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Most likely a spy.
Come with me Gr1m. I'm the one who showed you this game, now I play with your countryman, you shouldn't play with foreigners, language barrier. You are not member or Greasy killers nor Grim's Reapers, you are with BHH but they speak Russian, Spanish, French 90% of the time. And they all suck.
We play smart, you know where to find me. Don't play with stupids, or with assholes. It's nolife, virtual life, remember? They wrote about me that I'm Niko Belic wannabe, and I never played that game in my life. They don't know better.
Truth is that someone wins and someone loses, by which manners it doesn't matter when there's nobody to judge, there's no god or rules. I who has the most morals they called an immoral person and without a state of mind. But they are all bastards who'd join up with the devil if possible to win in pvp. You be like them or you suck, your own choice.
I quit playing with Besmrtnik. I said I won't play with any of those retardo people. Because of playing with him and rest of Croatians I ruined my reputation and membership with Rogues so I ended up trolling and fucking around with everyone. Now I found a gang which doesn't care about that and just wants to move forward, so I suggest you to team up with us. We don't PK, remember what I kept saying. If you keep your PK ethics it's your thing, but you say that they don't matter, so why you keep such ethics when they have no value. Even writing here I feel like talking to a wall. What will you mcdoctor and reese do after wipe? You believe that you are strong enough to make it trough? You depend a lot on numbers from other factions and possible spies. If you are ok with that, your problem.
What I mean is doing something serious, so do serious! -.- Or you stay shit.
Please note we do not even play with GR, panzers or non-english factions anymore, BHH next we will only help next wipe (If it will exist), we also want only english-speakers, we don't really want to repeat the same thing as this era, as for what i'll do for my small group next wipe, you will see.
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Grim's Reapers...... they all suck.
im touch
I think our name is tarnished because before we played with the stupid frenchys, so sadly
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im touch
I think our name is tarnished because before we played with the stupid frenchys, so sadly
Next time play alone or with some other gangs, but no TTTLA.. really.
I wish to see TTTLA alone without no one help them.. but I doubt this never happen xD
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Another thing , few days ago there was a fight between rogues and chosen soldiers in redding , we won , but the fight was really unfair , i mean we just spawned merceneries from all sides just no chance
Neeh t888 u forgot that it was just a payback for the battle in redding a day before when they just used that pussy cheap tactic with spwaning 10 metal armor mercs on mine and insta adding them to militia (exploit) during the CS timer was on. (no matter that we raped them there despite that fact xD) We just gave em taste their own medicine :P
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Most likely a spy.
Come with me Gr1m. I'm the one who showed you this game, now I play with your countryman, you shouldn't play with foreigners, language barrier. You are not member or Greasy killers nor Grim's Reapers, you are with BHH but they speak Russian, Spanish, French 90% of the time. And they all suck.
We play smart, you know where to find me. Don't play with stupids, or with assholes. It's nolife, virtual life, remember? They wrote about me that I'm Niko Belic wannabe, and I never played that game in my life. They don't know better.
Truth is that someone wins and someone loses, by which manners it doesn't matter when there's nobody to judge, there's no god or rules. I who has the most morals they called an immoral person and without a state of mind. But they are all bastards who'd join up with the devil if possible to win in pvp. You be like them or you suck, your own choice.
I quit playing with Besmrtnik. I said I won't play with any of those retardo people. Because of playing with him and rest of Croatians I ruined my reputation and membership with Rogues so I ended up trolling and fucking around with everyone. Now I found a gang which doesn't care about that and just wants to move forward, so I suggest you to team up with us. We don't PK, remember what I kept saying. If you keep your PK ethics it's your thing, but you say that they don't matter, so why you keep such ethics when they have no value. Even writing here I feel like talking to a wall. What will you mcdoctor and reese do after wipe? You believe that you are strong enough to make it trough? You depend a lot on numbers from other factions and possible spies. If you are ok with that, your problem.
What I mean is doing something serious, so do serious! -.- Or you stay shit.
LOL its so true... Glad somebody from my side of the track understands. Well I kind of stated what I wanted to do after wipe create a serious PvP faction. But yes marko its all your fault introducing me to these guys :P And marko here is the problem with my "countrymen" many of them are part of a faction that was set out to blacklist me from mining and tried to hunt me down because some guy entered my encounter and started shooting at me and I shot back and then tried to blacklist me as a PKer. Then these same idiots get into an argument with each other and ruined their faction over something stupid. And these countrymen do not do enough action for my tastes I rarely see them PvP or town control, and when they attempted it once they got slaughtered like we do half the time by the same people who you say suck at this game.
There's plenty of action with BHH because they get attacked by EVERYBODY, and these guys who are obsessed with fighting in Reno its action. I enjoy PvP and town control the most than stupid Reno fighting but that's what ends up happening half the time when everybody is added to over 9,000 bases.
And meh I have wrote enough about ethics in this game. I just think its funny to PK people and make them lose their gear. I like annoying people in this game is what it basically boils down to. It really has nothing about being good or evil as most put into that perspective. But you know I prefer a good fight than just shooting blue suits all day.
I am aware of that you don't know much about other teams or are somehow a good player , if you are well then you are playing with some animals and can't do nothing about anything , keep whining about swarm and how bad other teams are ,. It's why all this have gone too much to your head. Miserable and pathetic.
Yes it has all gone to my head, this game stresses me out and I didn't want to be disrespectful to the people I play with but Marko69 spoke the truth on this.
I think our name is tarnished because before we played with the stupid frenchys, so sadly
Yes... same goes for me apparently as I'm just a nobody who shoots people with a laser pistol finesse build all day.
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.s PK AT MINE
Ah ! .. You're that guy who never stopped yelling that in town ;)
I agree with what Brick said and have been shown the same hospitality from players like McDoctor, Reese and Sega_RUS. They are actually quite nice people..
Lawl ! ...
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Next time play alone or with some other gangs, but no TTTLA.. really.
I wish to see TTTLA alone without no one help them.. but I doubt this never happen xD
GR ever played with TTTLA? :|
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I wish to see TTTLA alone
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...here is the problem with my "countrymen" many of them are part of a faction that was set out to blacklist me from mining and tried to hunt me down because some guy entered my encounter and started shooting at me and I shot back and then tried to blacklist me as a PKer. Then these same idiots get into an argument with each other and ruined their faction over something stupid. And these countrymen do not do enough action for my tastes I rarely see them PvP or town control, and when they attempted it once they got slaughtered like we do half the time by the same people who you say suck at this game.
I take this people and leader as serious people, I know that half or more people who play are trolls and animals, it's truth. But I try to take it seriously and rely on this group. There's not much skill needed to play this game, and there's no language barrier here. I'm yet to see how this idiots argue and what new dog crap I'm going to see in this game. If nothing BHH lives as long as there's enough people to start tc ;D
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I take this people and leader as serious people, I know that half or more people who play are trolls and animals, it's truth. But I try to take it seriously and rely on this group. There's not much skill needed to play this game, and there's no language barrier here. I'm yet to see how this idiots argue and what new dog crap I'm going to see in this game. If nothing BHH lives as long as there's enough people to start tc ;D
BHH lives on in our hearts, and god rest its soul in the requiem server.
Don't get me wrong their leader is a decent guy I have talked to him. Its not my kind of faction, I am a fighter. I am mainly referring to the people who they epically failed TC with I do not know if it was an alliance or if they are same people but still. They may be serious and mature but they do not TC and PvP often. Asking them to do PvP is like asking when the wipe is, soon. If GN13 wants to do serious PvP, I well be more than happy to fight as a mercenary, but we would have to be the commanders and explain the basic strategy. They have potential yes I am sure they are not idiot trolls. But I just do not see this faction as being able to take on CS or COA. They got slaughtered by GR DOW and Section 8 and have not done any town control that I know of since. I am willing to help them and introduce them to basic 2238 TC strategy and help them win a few fights but they aren't an active PvP faction. I play this game for PvP, hording a bunch of gear and killing NPCs is really boring.
I have read their recruitment notice and I could not abide by their rules, I cuss I swear when I get stressed out with this game and I PK when there is no PvP action or if I'm bored. I'm sorry marko but I do not want to be a full pledge member of this faction, but I well fight with them in TC as a freelancer mercenary on the agreement if you or I command the fight. And I well leave it at that.
But you know I can see it already, they would take a town then every bored person who is into PvP is going to show up and we would probably die and it would be x10 worse than what we are accustomed to doing PvP with the people on the french PK mumble. At least random faceless blob finesse laser pistol faction can put up a fight and win, or at least take out a few before they die. And also to speak of it most of the people I play with they really hate like GR.
These guys get too butthurt when they get PKd, or when somebody makes a pvp video with them in it. Unless they are getting serious about PvP I'm not really interested in this faction.
And before somebody sends another troll reply yes I am raged over PvP no need to waste your time pointing out the obvious with a troll post.