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Title: Discussion
Post by: God of Thunder on October 01, 2011, 05:52:12 pm
Hey,
sometimes I wonder, why do people play computer games at all... Looking at it from rational point of view it is just a waste of time and making something that doesn't have any sense, just clicking and taping keyboard...
However, I do, so there must be some reason :P
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Grommok on October 01, 2011, 05:57:32 pm
Taking it from that point of view, everything is pointless, since at a certain point we all must die.
I play computer games (and games in general) as an hobby/drug.
If it was an hobby, I would be one that makes it as a professional.
If it was a drug, i would be a junkie in a costant state of overdose.
 ;) ;D ;D
Just jokin'. I play them because i like 'em.
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: God of Thunder on October 01, 2011, 06:08:31 pm
But not everybody plays comupter games, what makes some people playing? Are they (we :P) somehow different?
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Surf on October 01, 2011, 06:21:32 pm
Why do people watch movies? Why do people go to the theatre? Why do people make/listen to music? Why do people collect stuff? Why do people draw, paint?

Because it is fun/entertaiment. Nothing more, nothing less. The same applies for videogames.
Also - you may change your threadtitle. No one can get a single clue about what this "Discussion" is about from the title.
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Eternauta on October 01, 2011, 06:23:21 pm
sometimes I wonder, why do people play computer games at all... Looking at it from rational point of view it is just a waste of time and making something that doesn't have any sense

People play games and do other "senseless" activities to have some fucking fun. The "capitalist society" tends to separate fun from work (otium and nec otium), searching for productivity and efficiency.

However, it sometimes happen that the very logic of the nec otium (that is, the search for maximum productivity), which is after all dominant in our society, gets into our recreational activities. This happens in FOnline for example, where players tend to create alts for every single activity, for maximum efficiency. This is usually when the game becomes "boring".
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Grommok on October 01, 2011, 06:32:51 pm
But not everybody plays comupter games, what makes some people playing? Are they (we :P) somehow different?
Of course. Everybody plays for different reasons. I think the main reason is to have fun, to bring something more "funny" in our lives.
Why do you eat, if you must defecate everything? Why do you breathe, if everything goes out at the end? Why do you live, if you must die?
At the end, i think that everything might be answered with a very simple word: "Boh!" ;D
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Fizzle on October 01, 2011, 07:21:54 pm
Than why do people play console games? All it is, is smashing buttons ( haha )!
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: LagMaster on October 01, 2011, 07:47:41 pm
i play because i hate to read books, i whud rather be in the midle of the action
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Michaelh139 on October 01, 2011, 09:14:15 pm
Dunno why I play really.  I would say fun I guess.  Not sure these days.

Maybe it's just a hobby.  Or an addiction ???

Part of the answer lies in the fact that we are not "Controlled" to play video games.  We don't have anybody paying us to play the game, we don't have anyone taking out the whip to play either.

Our intrinsic motivation has led most of us here to video games because it's something we are interested in for various reasons.  (usually defined as "fun")

However when we are given the "Do this and you'll get that" control, we lose interest, and ultimately begin hating what we do.  Same thing would go to video games if such were the case.

That's how I can sum it up however, without taking up several feet long in text up to down.
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Gob on October 01, 2011, 10:08:22 pm
Hmm..I play games because they are sometimes the best enteritaiment I find. I like to play games togheter with my friends so I can have even more fun.More people double the fun right?
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Surf on October 01, 2011, 10:13:42 pm
More people double the fun right?

Not really. I prefer playing my games alone, with pacing that I control, I can take my time etc. I usually don't enjoy playing videogames with other people, especially random people over the internet.
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: RavenousRat on October 01, 2011, 10:18:27 pm
I played games when I was little kid, I even learnt my english only in games, I'm playing it to remember good times, probably that's why I don't like almost all games which were released after ~2000-2002, I like to play good old games like Master of Orion 1/2, Doom 1/2, Icewind Dale 1/2, MAX, Dungeon Keeper 2, Settlers 1/2, X-Com 1/2, Fallout 1/2, Arcanum, M&M 6/7, Heroes 1/2/3, JA2, Daggerfall, Morrowind. May be some other, any other games aren't interesting for me as I don't feel anything good when playing them. Also it looks like people forgot how to make games properly, all those new games are crap in comparison to XX century games.

Not really. I prefer playing my games alone, with pacing that I control, I can take my time etc. I usually don't enjoy playing videogames with other people, especially random people over the internet.
Playing Icewind Dale 2 or some other similar DnD with your friends is one of the best ways how to spend your time playing.
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Surf on October 01, 2011, 10:30:37 pm
I even learnt my english only in games,

Heh, me too. :D Star Tropics for the NES was my first english game back then, learning by doing!

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May be some other, any other games aren't interesting for me as I don't feel anything good when playing them. Also it looks like people forgot how to make games properly, all those new games are crap in comparison to XX century games.

So true. It is a very rare occasion that I enjoy a game which is released these days. Perfect example how the lust for $$$ can ruin everything.

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Playing Icewind Dale 2 or some other similar DnD with your friends is one of the best ways how to spend your time playing.

Never tried it, but I can imagine it's fun. Though - again it would get a bit ruined for me since I wouldn't be able to take my time, take a break whenever I want etc. - it just doesn't really work for me. Nice that you mention IWD - as I'm playing it just right now (http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannt187ak.png) and just alt tabbed out of the game (this is what I mean with those "breaks). ;)
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: LagMaster on October 01, 2011, 10:47:43 pm
Fallout teached me English(along with some cartoons in english)
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Josh on October 01, 2011, 11:09:48 pm
...Or an addiction ???...
With fonline it's an addiction, trust me you lend your flash drive with game on it out or go on camping trip and you'll want to play so bad you'll be dreaming about making stuff and hunting ghouls. :P
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on October 02, 2011, 03:55:10 am
finally...
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this is the answer :D
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Reiniat on October 12, 2011, 04:26:08 am
Fallout teached me English(along with some cartoons in english)
Me too, and i also learned most of my english spelling from Fallout3 and Oblivion. But its ugly when a teacher tells you that speak "da" "pal" "cus" "a want yia" its all wrong.
Mexicans will never speak english properly, we will always make some type of chicano-cuban stuff. And USA guys will laugh of us, and people from others countryes will say that our acent is "funny".

Im amazed that nobody talk about one of the most important reasons to play: WIN...win what? it doesnt matter really, its just that funny feeling of make something that other people can't, like when you are above of a bluesuit after kill him.
I personally dont like that idea, exept while im playing Gears of War 3 just to show those idiot fans that a hater of the game is the best player of Oaxaca. ;D
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Lordus on October 12, 2011, 08:59:00 am
 When i was very young child, computer games was something that ease you to learn how to use computers. My first computer was Sinclair ZX Spectrum Plus and every game (program) was loaded on audio tape :). That time and old 386, 486 DOS or early win 95 era was my best in pc games perspective. My hardware was old and i was very happy if i edited autoexec.bat and config.sys so my computer was able to run new games. I remember the first multiplaying in our school, doom, warcraft 1, netwars :)

I dont like (most of) new games, it is all about graphics, almost straigh walktrough from first mission to the epic end.. Maybe i am old and nostalgic, youngest players can feel the same for current sort of games. But still, i think that editing your system configuration, borrowing 2 MB of RAM from my mother work computer (so i had 6 MB RAM!!!!) was computer pioneering :) (I dont get it. At my win 7 asus eee, aplication that shows me on display if caps lock or num lock is on or off has 2,7 MB in ram, WTF? :) ).

 At this summer, my (4 years old games compatible) notebook died and i decide to not buy new hardware for games, so i have ION Intel atom netbook atm. I played few old games during this summer, games i did not ever test, and i am satisfied. Panzer General 2, Mech Wariror Gold. I will wait with buying new hardware for next Half Life or Fallout, but thats all.

 P.S.: Any idea of "good old adventure" game?
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Andr3aZ on October 12, 2011, 09:42:36 am
I usally play games to try out different things that aren't avaible for me in real life: flying a jet/helicopter, having a shootout, going through WW2, travel through space, be right in the middle of epic battles of the history(or fictional epic battles :)) and witness paranormal things that creep the shit out of me. I know it doesnt match the real thing even a slightest when you experienced the real thing, but i never did/want to in most cases, so thats enough.
Title: Re: Discussion
Post by: Grommok on October 13, 2011, 11:07:26 pm
P.S.: Any idea of "good old adventure" game?
Depends on the kind of adventure.
if you feel that the time for a good laugh has come, The Secret Of Monkey Island, or Monkey Island 2. If you feel more like serious, Full Throttle. Both are old LucasArts graphical adventures, the "bad" part is that you need an emulator (SCUMMVM (http://www.scummvm.org/)) to run them.
Warcraft 2 for the strategic day, Daggerfall for the roleplayer (both DOSBox (http://www.dosbox.com/)) Jagged Alliance 2 for the tactician/anyone else (runs on Windows 7, atleast Gold Version patched up to 1.13).
If you prefer something else, right now my memory fails :P