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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: Vladroxx on September 27, 2011, 07:08:19 am
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I think should make sex appeal the equivalent of having 3 charisma for people like me who choose 1 charisma
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But here's the thing: what you suggested wasn't related to the sex appeal trait at all. Maybe they could make a trait for what you specified but it has to have a down-side to it. What you suggested would pretty much make three Charisma have no purpose, whatsoever.
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I think should make sex appeal the equivalent of having 3 charisma for people like me who choose 1 charisma
You forgot to propose negative side of the trait.
And no, 1 CH for people with same sex won't work, because what you propose is trait for people with 1 CH anyway.
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Would make Charisma more pointless. (Except for leaders ofc)
No. ::)
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Which 1ch pvp apes are going to waste a perk on this anyway though.
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i bet its great to make perk usefull
1 ch + sex appeal can guarantee 3-10 ch for opposite sex npc, that for me looks absolutelly good, because for other npc (male/female) u gonna be really unpleasured person. :D
so i mean bla bla ( u female ) even 9ch or 10 ch make u with this trait ugly and shit for npc ( female npc )
when for male npc u ll be like perfect lady :D ( even with 1 ch )
for people that dont support idea :
(http://pics.livejournal.com/olegbyesyedin/pic/00043q98)
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Sex Appeal is a trait spears not a perk, this would probably have no influence to powerbuilds as I don't know any that would sacrifice a trait. It also has a negative side effect of being a pretty bad trait compared to others.
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With current NPC interaction it's pointless to suggest something about sex appeal, if only it won't affect combat, later it may work like in original Fallout, opposite sex NPCs will like you more and the same sex won't, nothing complex. In example, you're 1 CH ugly powerbuild, you will have no possibilities to advance in some faction ranks / stroly line / whatever they will implement, sex appeal may affect your CH by giving floating bonus against same sex and penalty with opposite, but if only your CH isn't 1 already, etc.
Right now it can be used only in combat. Also forget about dialogues, you can read them only in special created locations where you're alone and know that noone will ever attack you, I still never ever read what Metzger, Little Jesus, etc are saying, because I'm not going to read whole dialogue in unguarded town with a risk to lose quest item, so all NPC interactions is pressing "1", "2" etc. buttons and reading wiki to see where you need to go and what you need to do.
About this is not "trait", you forgot to add penalties!! Trait must have something bad! Who cares? If you're picking a trait, it means you already not going to use whichever penalty it'll give. Even when there will be more dialogues (and in safe places or alteast without permalosing quest items) wich are affecting your gameplay, everyone will know what they need, if they'll need to have high BoS rank and that guy who promotes them is a male, then they will make female with this trait, etc. so it will work like fast shot, if you're not going to do aimed shots it's not a trait for you, or small frame, if you're not crafter/looter, then it's not a trait for you, good natured, if you're not troll build with sg+bg+unarmed, this isn't a trait for you, etc so why sex appeal should have a penalty? Of course it should, but people will avoid it anyway. Btw it already have a penalty, it takes you 1 trait slot, so you'll have only one more trait, so you can't have good natured AND small frame, my suggestion: remove all damned penalties! Anyway everyone are taking 2 traits, sometimes you even want to take 3rd trait, but you can't, probably there must be some bonus if you don't have traits at all or have only 1 trait.
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Sex Appeal is a trait spears not a perk, this would probably have no influence to powerbuilds as I don't know any that would sacrifice a trait. It also has a negative side effect of being a pretty bad trait compared to others.
Good point my bad
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i bet its great to make perk usefull
1 ch + sex appeal can guarantee 3-10 ch for opposite sex npc, that for me looks absolutelly good, because for other npc (male/female) u gonna be really unpleasured person. :D
so i mean bla bla ( u female ) even 9ch or 10 ch make u with this trait ugly and shit for npc ( female npc )
when for male npc u ll be like perfect lady :D ( even with 1 ch )
for people that dont support idea :
(http://pics.livejournal.com/olegbyesyedin/pic/00043q98)
You clearly didn't think this through sugar, why would I take this trait with 9 CH? To lower my CH to 1 for all female NPCs? What for? I have 9 CH for everyone already!
Why WOULDN'T I take it with 1 CH, this way the "penalty" for opposite sex is same as with no trait at all, so the trait has no penalty for people with 1 CH.
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Probably he wanted to say that it'll give you X additional CH with opposite sex and X penalty to the same sex, where X is a difference between your current (or base) CH and 1. So if you have 1 CH, it won't work, if you have 3 CH, then you'll have 1 CH with the same sex and 5 CH with opposite sex, so you can't hire any same sex merc, can't talk to same sex traders who don't talk to uglies, can't carry same sex players in a party, but can hire 2 opposite sex mercs, 4 opposite sex players and talk to opposite sex traders. People will make 5 CH female taxi alts and there will be no female pvp apes ^_^ or opposite.
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Oh, if it's for everything, not only for traders talking it would make more sense.
Espercially if this effect couldn't be "fixed" by taking CH drugs.
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actually yes, i d like to see 1-10ch girl with sex apeal that cant even speak with girls, same with 1-10 ch boys ( they ll look like gays for other boys, so each one gonna kill this faggots ) :D
i want gigolo karma perk from new reno ! :D