...Warnings are issued on the bullets they fire, TTTLA will shot anyone who enters during TC, even if you are in allied faction, with no warning. If TC is going on its best to go elsewhere because they take it very (perhaps too) seriously. Also don't even consider standing next to enemies or *gasp* conversing in a business manner with TSAR during peace time. You will be labeled outlaw regardless of it having been ok'd that you remain on neutral terms with TSAR prior to incident. Bureaucracy at its finest.
Any single player entering during TC will be given a warning to leave immediately or be executed.
Any groups of unarmed players entering during TC will be given a warning to leave immediately or be executed.
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Warnings are issued on the bullets they fire, TTTLA will shot anyone who enters during TC, even if you are in allied faction, with no warning. If TC is going on its best to go elsewhere because they take it very (perhaps too) seriously. Also don't even consider standing next to enemies or *gasp* conversing in a business manner with TSAR during peace time. You will be labeled outlaw regardless of it having been ok'd that you remain on neutral terms with TSAR prior to incident. Bureaucracy at its finest.
Oh, and an additional note: remember that in this game where people alt freely, you can be some lonely PK, kill a bluesuit who has just recently joined the game, and tell him "lolo i am crazy88 suffer n00b" - and the newbie will actually believe the PK is C88 when he is not.
They created their imaginary rules when they can PK innocent people (they can kill anyone when they want change text message that is visible in pipboy or when they think person is "spy" or dangerous) and when they can't (although even these rules are broken by them sometimes). It's fine, but it has nothing to do with justice :)
Your making a big mistake. Crazy 88 is supposed to be ANTI pk but they kill for fun all the time. Thier a pretty corrupt group. Tell me if you have any problems with them.
They are tttla's minions
New players shouldn't be bothered by some stupid ego wars. They just want to enjoy this game, they want to craft, fight and die. Nothing more nothing less. If they wanna get involved, they will find a way how to do it. But the most of them don't care.
They are tttla's minionsSame as Kelin, I won't defend them. But it does change anything?
They created their imaginary rules when they can PK innocent, peacful people (they can kill anyone when they go through process of changing pipboy status) and when they can't (although even these rules are broken by them sometimes). It's fine, but it has nothing to do with justice :) I can create my imaginary rules too - kill only in mines and only people with hammers, hey I won't even loot them! Then I'm anti-pk who never pks unless you mine ore.
If Eternauta is in a gang, they are alright people. Otherwise Eternauta wouldn't be in that gang.
Hey fellows, Sanguinetti of the 'robbers here. Thought I say a word for the lawyers too, who (besides all accusations) cleared Gecko mine when the rugged ghoul horde of the Khans infested it not long ago
Why does tsar attack bh with rougues then?Why the Broken Hills Hunters have nothing against that, and coming to help us in Redding then?
KTT: I believe you're very smart to ask such questions to me, because it seems you are aware that I'm not the most active member of C88, so I can't give a proper answer to your questions.No offence, but you were just openly talking about current situation like you knew how it was. I guess you should talk with people around to find out the current and more realistic position.
Why does tsar attack bh with rougues then?
Aint that also a rp town? if you wanna judge some first look at yourself.
Never seens anything about gecko a free town? where is the that written? i never heard such a thing from hawks and i talk to some each day.
And c88 lead the attack last night? It was one guy on sneaker relaying info back to duder that lead the op.
listen up kids, now the official story behind peacekeepers:
1: redding alliance swarming everyone
2: rouges pissed of, forming north bandits.
3: both redding alliance and cs can't handly it on their own
4: they form the peacekeepers alliance.
5: shortly after they break it up because we still weren't able to win on a regular basis, plus some people had issues with loot.
Bottomt line, the whole peacekeepers thing was to counter north bandits.
also, Being APK or PK doesn't have anything to do with Town Control.
needless to say that peacekeepers purely was a tc alliance to get namecolorsing and to enable the use of mercs.
Naah, we are not in this "anti pk" faction thingy.now I could totally only quote this part of the comment and troll the hell out of it but, as you can see, I'm not actually going to do it.
No offence, but you were just openly talking about current situation like you knew how it was. I guess you should talk with people around to find out the current and more realistic position.
now I could totally only quote this part of the comment and troll the hell out of it but, as you can see, I'm not actually going to do it.
You take a tc town to get caps and then woner when you are attacked? surely fonlien must be the wrong game for you.
Pretty much a fallacy here. Re-read my posts and you'll see I am speaking about our faction in general.
Redding is not a guarded town. ou cant blame us for having fun the way the game is intended to work. You never claimed redding to be an rp project that would be worthy of our support, you didn't even establish any contact with anyone to maybe talk over some details beforehand or something.
If i would be a new player i probably would think your just some merceneries for tttlaThis is the main problem of this forum; most of the people that post here are known pk's and since the gang issues section is for issues, the majority of posts are made by those that just got killed or that just dont like a certain faction/certain people.
And in the end a lot of people are too naive and think that what is written here is the truth. Of course Michael139 is best informed about the current constellation of gangs and has all the insider knowledge one could get of tttla, crazy88, hawks and whatnot.I see your obscure trolling very clearly but I suppose i might as well explain my view-point for everyone else's fyi. (I admit using word "minion" was a bit derogatory but this was the only more closely describing my opinion-fact that seemed appropriate to what I have seen)
At least that's what a new player would think.
I am talking in general.
You state that TC and AntiPK/PK thing doesint work together, which doesint entirely make sense to me.
But, what i know is that you can do a TC like we do, meaning, take a town and have some fun hanging around with random people, help them out and so on... Until Metal Thugs, TTTLA, C88 or CS comes kills them, occupies the city and kills more of them ofcourse.
...but with current cooldowns and travel speed, the value of lost items after being killed is almost non-existent. :-*Maybe for you, but not for the most of the beginners. I remember times when gathering 10 brahmin hides took me like 3 days.
You are not talking in general. You talked about a question which I "have still not answered properly" - It made me think of a question you asked in our recruitment thread, about killing innocents in mines, with a screenshot of some dudes over a corpse (no context), and which got deleted after that ...after you apologized for spamming our rec thread.
So after spamming our rec thread, you spammed this one as well.
I would like you to take a look at the recruitment applications posted in our gang forum. A lot of them were posted by guys who "have heard only good stuff about C88", or "who hate griefers and so think C88 is the best faction for them".
I would like to know why it's you, KTT, the one who's spamming aggresively and the one who turned this thread into a flamewar. Your comrade Killian has posted here as well but with a much more moderated tone, and Lacan was the one who apologized in our recruitment thread before all comments were deleted.
It makes sense if you read what I have said: when you're going to fight in a town, you can never be sure who's innocent and who is not. It's very easy to make a mistake during TC, so when on TC, being APK is just a reason for others to whine about you being "hypocrite", or something similar.Heh, thats the whole point in this... You dont kill innocent people right? But you do attack a city full of innocent people over and over again... See the point yet?
We are being honest here: you will probably get shot when we do TC, because game mechanics don't allow us to be sure who's dangerous and who is not. But if we encounter you around the wastes we won't shoot at you unless you're a known enemy, PK, whatever.Well, last 2 months you turned all what was left of those "non dangerous" people into enemies. TSAR faction is black listed or something, Hawks too. Becouse? Well, i dont care, its your new politics not mine. I guess we are dangerous criminals according to you :) Like pretty much whole server anyways.
Another smart comment. So we can "do TC" like you do: "take a town, etc" ... So how should we take the town? Doing what is need to be done to take it and probably making many mistakes in the process. I think this is not weird for an APK TC gang.Hmm... Yes, its not weird thing to raid and raid and leave the town empty when there is nothing left in it. Thats how Rogues do (Who roleplay raiders), they dont buy militia most of the time through, only few. And when Rogues do it, everybody knows how they will do it, becouse they stand for what they are doing.
Beginners are a myth. Either they dont exist anymore, or they hang in NCR/VC/Hub. Those so called begginers in unguarded city are mostly alts of gangs that participate in TC. Or real beginners might wander there too, but with current cooldowns and travel speed, the value of lost items after being killed is almost non-existent. :-*It shows that you havint been in Redding much ;) 40-50% of the people or more on busy hours are new comers, rest is roleplayers or alts. Come around with a awerness character at around 20:00 GMT+1 or so and check out for yourself ;)
"Proud citizens of Redding, do not trust the current government.No citizens! Do not listen to their lies! Their Folly propaganda! For you know how this scourge of "justified" murders has killed your family, friends, children and slaughtered your livestocks and raped your women! Instead stand together as one, and let them know their kind is not wanted here! Let them know you will stand for what is right!
The Samartians have signed with their own blood an unholy alliance with the worst monsters the Wasteland has ever known: Raiders, trappers, Rogues, tyrannical and bloody army of the east... They have forgiven every atrocity in their lust for power. Soon they will pay with this same blood the price of this alliance against nature. Rebel Now!"
No citizens! Do not listen to their lies! Their Folly propaganda! For you know how this scourge of "justified" murders has killed your family, friends, children and slaughtered your livestocks and raped your women! Instead stand together as one, and let them know their kind is not wanted here! Let them know you will stand for what is right!
I think Lemark as well as several people from the C88 have a certain kind of mental block, which started compensate in the game, because they play like an animals and spreading lies. I really want to know, what they do in they real life.
Then you must be blind or his wife...