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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Gang Issues => Topic started by: Fettel on September 12, 2011, 12:05:43 pm
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What is the problem with Redding, Samaritans keep killing everybody who enters.
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Hey man, come on, check your pipboy before you say that !
Sarmatians don't own the town anymore, it was taken yesterday by C88+TTTLA alliance, right now it's under the nameflag of Tim and tom and ted's lawyer agency, who shoot outlaws according to their own justice/RP.
EDIT : no flame intended, they take town fair and square, and it's just right they want be part of the PvP fun in Redding. I hope it doesn't make too bad relationship with them (TTTLA+C88) in the future.
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TTTLA openly raped Redding from the Sarmatians, possibly the best peaceful unguarded town project ever. Slaughtering every single citizen for no reason or warning.
I'm not gonna say I told you so. ;)
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possibly the best peaceful unguarded town project ever.
hold your horses, in my opinion it is not as good as WWP project, which was during a time where there were many more players (=more griefers/attackers), and which was actually initiated by TTTLA themselves... For us things were easier (not actually "easy").
Dark, dark days of TC in Redding ahead ! Me gusta...
Though Sarmatians would advise all regular citizens to find a new place to live, don't know where... Until Sarmatians are stable in Redding again and if they still want to hang out there of course :)
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As Lacan said, Redding is right now under TTTLA occupation. We will free the town from "so called justice" of them as soon as possible.
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All i cay say its sorry guys, because Redding would be safe if we didnt kill your militia last week and now they can just enter and take over that helpless town :-\
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All i cay say its sorry guys, because Redding would be safe if we didnt kill your militia last week and now they can just enter and take over that helpless town :-\
Laughed hard.
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We did it, u not. We took the town when it was challenge. Nothing to add.
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Please don't make Redding a prize for best PvP of the year :( we just want safe Redding again.
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Please don't make Redding a prize for best PvP of the year :( we just want safe Redding again.
Those corpses will feed many a Wanamingo.
Many eggs shall be laid...
Time to model ecosystems.
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Wanamingo is like wipe its myth :D
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hold your horses, in my opinion it is not as good as WWP project, which was during a time where there were many more players (=more griefers/attackers), and which was actually initiated by TTTLA themselves... For us things were easier (not actually "easy").
Well that's why I said possibly and imo it IS/WAS the best one ever. And of course my opinion is a bit skewed when it comes to WWP project since I honestly didn't do anything but pvp since I didn't find crafting worth my time or effort unless i created a mass alting campaign consisting of 10+ of every profession thanks to massive cooldowns.
Besides this, TTTLA was always the metagaming type with this project so I couldn't do anything there without getting shot even if i had never attacked anyone there or just doing normal things. e.g. buying a base, mercenary, etc. Hell they'd kill if you were just standing around. Unless you forcibly engaged yourself in rp you would be shot.
Whereas Sarmatians allowed people so long as they didn't cause much trouble, broke clear civil laws, etc. Something that sounds undeniably the atmosphere like a place as redding, many miners being addicted to jet + the Wild west theme and there being a real economy of people trying to live there, with all the crafters and miners for hire and guards for the mines.
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You are a sweet man inside, thanks for your kind words. I fear for the future of Redding this era, and i think the days of happy afking at main are over. Thanks to those who checked it out and enjoyed it. To me North is unguarded again, but hey maybe someone proves me wrong.
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Laughed hard.
Major TTTLA troll laughed hard, nothing to add. Now, let chamo and jescri add their 2 cents :D
TSAR, keep up the good work. Redding under TSAR rules was/is exceptionally good and not filled with any of "lawyer" trolling stuff that makes people "guard the town" by killing random people. What keeps me amused is C88 acting like TTTLA's minions and killing people that have nothing common with player killers. Another antiPK bullshit, but we've had enough of it during last 2 years...
I'd fight for TSAR's cause, though it's against my so-called PK attitude.. damn.
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I'd fight for TSAR's cause, though it's against my so-called PK attitude.. damn.
I would troll you hard if you do! You are supposed to respect a strict PK attitude! (which all BBS/rogues/whatever respect, by admiring TSAR work and destroying it).
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I would troll you hard if you do!
And who cares?
Dude, TSAR just shows you how you TTTLA should run your previous "RP project in Redding" which failed many times at all circumstances.. Though TSAR even doesn't talk about any "RP project", they just act as they want in game, without bringing any important-unique-RP-lawyer stuff into it.. I wait till you accuse them of being evil PKers that only want caps from TC locker, as you did several months ago with BHH project :D
I'm starting to regret our recent attack on Redding, clearing it out of strong militia which you powerful lawyers couldn't even touch.. Must be damn so hard to stay on worldmap with your RP stuff while another gang keeps the town safe, doesn't it?
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Rogues/BBS/EE are still playing? I thought they ragequited some year ago ...
If they are not playing, how they can have anything about Redding and in game things? :D
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And who cares?
The usual trolls I guess.
Dude, TSAR just shows you how you TTTLA should run your previous "RP project in Redding" which failed many times at all circumstances..
I don't call that a fail. Many people had pretty good times there. Not Outlaws of course (though I even think many of them actually did, with the numerous skirmishes at mine). It means it worked exactly as intended. And, yeah, we can say proudly, "with RP", at least at the start. Not at the end though, cause at the end, everyone was allowed and Lawyers were staying out of the town (for RP reasons, again, though we did not destroyed the town as our RP could have said us. We are not RP enough to purposely destroy something we spent so much times to build and which was adding so much to server, even though we weren't involved anymore). You were probably too busy trolling to notice, or maybe because you were trying to destroy the project? I remember how funny it was: after building the project, all Rogues were inactive, project started to grow, but CS were raiding too much the town. We did an agreement with them as they don't attack it anymore. The day after, you built up a big alliance to waste us because "we were with the CS" and destroy Redding! So we actually joined them, giving the Peacekeepers era, with the Biggest Battle of Fonline yet. Funny thing: reverse happened just after treaty of Golgotha with you, all CS came back to raid Redding.
Though TSAR even doesn't talk about any "RP project", they just act as they want in game, without bringing any important-unique-RP-lawyer stuff into it..
Actually, that's pretty much the WWP at the end (which is pretty logical, TSAR at that time were one of the main engine of the project). But yeah of course, I find that also less tasty without RP.
I'm starting to regret our recent attack on Redding, clearing it out of strong militia which you powerful lawyers couldn't even touch..
Life must be beautiful when everything is about you and what you're doing. Of course, if TSAR kept the town so much time straight, it's because we were too weak to attack. :-*
Must be damn so hard to stay on worldmap with your RP stuff while another gang keeps the town safe, doesn't it?
Well, our RP stuff never prevented us to have fun in PvP don't worry. On another hand, your trolling stuff must, as I see you in game only two times per two month (in the same week usually, between your ragequits because of swarming and stuff).
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Holo, sometimes we gather people to smash any others and remind them how would it looks like after wipe. People easy forgot, too easy ;)
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blah blah blah more trolling blah blah rage
Yeah dude keep trolling maybe finally some day someone will start caring bout you, for now you're mainly known for forum pvp and some trolling ingame, congratulations ;)
Btw. better call for your chamo/jescri trolling backup, the swarm is the swarm
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Yeah dude keep trolling maybe finally some day someone will start caring bout you, for now you're mainly known for forum pvp and some trolling ingame, congratulations ;)
Damn... I... Became like you?!?
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Acually... I dont know how much in town you were, few times per week at least i imagine at time of WWP. But, at the end, we were not part of WWP... We were there in the middle and beggining in time of the project. At time when Max Goldrat died (me) was the end of TSAR infuence in WWP. So, i guess, either you were not "in the project" to know about it, or you dont remember it 8) But yeah, it wasint our project, so we didint have as much to say as we wished for.
Just a clearing up.
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haha another episode of 2238 drama, i really love this shit.
roleplay projects? this game is about killing bluesuits, nothing change this truth, its essnece of this fucking game! ;)
when some roleplay project is on, its obviously attracting bluesuits. when critical number of bluesuits will be reached, then we are showing up for some rozpierdol. then antipk's have nice excuse.. its magical circle of fonline! ;o
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People easy forgot, too easy ;)
True, I have video to help you if you want, so when you want your revenge ?
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Hey, I know a good place for talk of this !
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?board=13.0
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roleplay projects? this game is about killing bluesuits, nothing change this truth, its essnece of this fucking game! ;)
when some roleplay project is on, its obviously attracting bluesuits. when critical number of bluesuits will be reached, then we are showing up for some rozpierdol. then antipk's have nice excuse.. its magical circle of fonline! ;o
Only in your mind bro, only in your mind.
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Haha 2238 drama,
It's true.
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After 2 years of playing together forum flame wars reminds me of the Polish parliament, which is perfectly illustrated in this movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBYDoSv8FFg&feature=related /// Moja racja - I got right
;D ;D ;D
...och and that single guy is like a bluesuit/newbe who to be honest lost the most ;D
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Everybody knows what happend, no words needed. Thanks for all people saying positives about our town however, makes one want to keep it up 8)
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Well the weekly attacks of BBS and Rogues are actually helpful in some way. They're really tough and good in PvP, so skirmishes with them improving our skills.
Everybody knows what happend, no words needed. Thanks for all people saying positives about our town however, makes one want to keep it up
I totally agree. As long as there's people who's sympathetic to our cause, we'll fight for the free towns idea.
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I am too lazy to quote shit and stuff but WWP has given me something a troll that sticks for life.
1. Spot the potential " outlaw "
2. Destroy
3. Run to him
4. Say something cheesy like: " WWP is here , your blacklisted on the outlaw list "
5. Carry on your duties ;D
When tttla's talk about outlaws and RP i usually think , damn i wish i had some popcorn because it's interesting to read , it's like a never ending pile of garbage. :)
The game is simple for me it's combat environment as much as possible , follow orders , work as team , be efficient , pay attention and improve. Unfortunately for redding there is not much good PvP available in these days , so it had been placed as a target for a potential " hotzone " and there's was some kind of challenge ( strong militia ) that could give us tough , interesting fights but in the end we rape everything and most of fights seemed just a time waste , then some of us don't see the effort to try anymore so we borequit.
lazy to write my opinion so short version tsar town > wee wee pee
btw tsar should improve combat skills so you could uphold your own " projects " much better.
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2 things....
lazy to write my opinion so short version tsar town > wee wee pee
Not trying to be rude or "you harr ignorant" but do you realize that > is greater than? ok but...
I've heard about glory days of WWP in Redding, what does WWB actually stand for?
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I've about glory days of WWP in Redding, what does it actually stand for?
There wasn't any gloryhole days. All depends how much you were involved in this.
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2 things....Not trying to be rude or "you harr ignorant" but do you realize that > is greater than?
I've about glory days of WWP in Redding, what does it actually stand for?
I have my reasons why i compared it that way , i just think tsar did/still do? a better job with the city that's all. Won't say much but i can mention one of the reasons i think wwp failed is that they somehow attracted too much attention to redding it was bound to go down , they tried too much too hard , there was so much trolling and flaming about the wwp that it couldn't be ignored it was because of the mistakes.
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Lock this thread end of discussion.
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I have my reasons why i compared it that way , i just think tsar did/still do? a better job with the city that's all. Won't say much but i can mention one of the reasons i think wwp failed is that they somehow attracted too much attention to redding it was bound to go down , they tried too much too hard , there was so much trolling and flaming about the wwp that it couldn't be ignored it was because of the mistakes.
You mean we put too much effort in our project (WWP) that we made it fail ? We should have ran the town in old fashion way, just guarding mine area, filling militia with uber mercs, and tell people they were welcome ?
You know, it was not the purpose of our project, we wanted to make it a lively and interesting place, not a "NCR with HQ ressources". And I think we managed to do it, at least for some time.
People who have never done anything with their own two hands never make a mistake.
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Simple you ummm what would be the appropriate word ..... oh yeah riveted to much attention to the city , it became a major target for your so called " outlaws " and trolls , your " outlaw " system didn't work only made more enemies than friends le walls of flame and burning rained down the forum , ehh i still sometimes use this line to troll people when i'm in the mood " you are blacklisted , don't mess with the WWP " it's just epic failure ;D it came down to even that some pissed off dow took your city once in a while ! For obvious reasons i mean were is the necessity to deal with 4 pk's with a 13 guy squad like that is an unnecessary attention , i mean how the fuck the city won't turn into a ultimate battlefield eventually tell me please ?
Then came the rogues and CS because the city was lively enough , and the place turned into a good , solid battlefield for a while , happy ending !
Think about it how can you make a peaceful and interesting place if it is a goddamn warzone every day ? I think the right approach would be a diplomatic one rather then , " for some justice that nobody gives a crap about ratatattat die outlaws " ;D
and hey i'm not even talking about some RP shit
People who have never done anything with their own two hands never make a mistake.
Hey btw if you and your butt buddies c88 wouldn't have gathered another swarm and attacked the city constantly , tsar wouldn't had any problems with the city other than 1 or 2 attacks from rogues. I guess their " outlaws " or some crap to you ? I see you as fanatic lunatics when you start discussing the matters about " for the justice " or " outlaws " , no offense mostly i don't give a fuck alright , but don't you think you over exaggerate sometimes ..... wait most of the time ?
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Lock this thread end of discussion.
I like how you posted after half a month of silence, bumping this thread thus most likely starting the discussion again.
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People who have never done anything with their own two hands never make a mistake.
... And after years, i think that those who make the most are those who most of the times speak the less, probably because they do not have time to chat. To find that out, you must meet them and open your eyes and your mind, not your big mouth to dump your prejudices.
In this world we must feel like in the Mad Max movie. We must be surrounded by dangerous people: your neighbors willing to kill for an iguana-on-a-stick, the jet addict who needs caps to satisfy his addiction, this fanatical group ready to burn you if you do not agree with them, this armed group of raiders that puts into slavery and rapes all it finds, this man who seems too friendly to be honest and that will definitely follow you in your tent or rape your base ...
We must feel the fear, hatred and sadness to finally more apreciate the moment when we are surrounded by a few trusted people: our gang!
In a destroyed world without real futur, these gangs are trying to impose their vision of the future, or their lack of vision of the future. These gangs make war and kill those who barre their way.
And in this barbaric world, everyone is ready to do everything to survive the others (alliances against nature, betrayals, corruptions, ...).
So yes, we need to fear a base rape, a turnbase trap, an enemy raid, and therefore we need someone who does not think like us, and much better, someone who think just the opposite, and who try to destroy what we do.
If you do not want to be betrayed, if you do not want war, if you do not want to lose, try Tamagotchi. At least if something goes wrong, the only person who will be blamed, it will be you. And we wont have those useless, sensless, and endless discussions about the consistency of our behavior in the game.
Do you really think that someone who use to use drugs and to drink irradiated alcohol, who has been near to death a couple of times, who has been psychologically destroyed by years of violence in that world is always consistent ?
But yes, for sure, we need more respect, more people who feel confortable in their RP and who simply enjoy that world and that game like it is. And those who spent all their time to judge the ways the others play, those who do not appreciate each simple things that happen in that game should surely do something else...
Miss Key is a kind of post apocalyptic templar who believe in Law as templars believed in God. She dont need to prove that the Law exists, she dont need to show you the Law nor that she have to explain you the great and positive effects of the Law in the Wasteland. She's a fanatic who believe deeply in it, a bit fascist, totally addicted to all existing drugs, who will surely kill you on sight if you dont respect The Great Law.
So, thanks to hate us, thanks to fight, thanks to try to destroy us ! That's exactly, at the end, what we expect In Game. And don't forget, it's just pixels ;)
Sincerly yours, a young recruit of the Agency
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Simple you ummm what would be the appropriate word ..... oh yeah riveted to much attention to the city , it became a major target for your so called " outlaws " and trolls , your " outlaw " system didn't work only made more enemies than friends le walls of flame and burning rained down the forum , ehh i still sometimes use this line to troll people when i'm in the mood " you are blacklisted , don't mess with the WWP " it's just epic failure ;D it came down to even that some pissed off dow took your city once in a while ! For obvious reasons i mean were is the necessity to deal with 4 pk's with a 13 guy squad like that is an unnecessary attention , i mean how the fuck the city won't turn into a ultimate battlefield eventually tell me please ?
Then came the rogues and CS because the city was lively enough , and the place turned into a good , solid battlefield for a while , happy ending !
Think about it how can you make a peaceful and interesting place if it is a goddamn warzone every day ? I think the right approach would be a diplomatic one rather then , " for some justice that nobody gives a crap about ratatattat die outlaws " ;D
and hey i'm not even talking about some RP shit
Hey btw if you and your butt buddies c88 wouldn't have gathered another swarm and attacked the city constantly , tsar wouldn't had any problems with the city other than 1 or 2 attacks from rogues. I guess their " outlaws " or some crap to you ? I see you as fanatic lunatics when you start discussing the matters about " for the justice " or " outlaws " , no offense mostly i don't give a fuck alright , but don't you think you over exaggerate sometimes ..... wait most of the time ?
Oh my. Swarms, squads, warzones, battlefields (ultimate and solid, yeah!), RP shit - are you sure this is right game for you? I mean there are shooters much more simpler, without cooldowns, crafting and stuff, ever tried them?
I laugh a lot about "u r outlaw" trolling, performed by TTTLA (or whatever these "palladins" call themselves), but I can see the difference between Redding free for all, noobs, miners, apes, and Redding-warzone, where only the biggest proxy swarm survives. Guess which option I like more? :>
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Oh my. Swarms, squads, warzones, battlefields (ultimate and solid, yeah!), RP shit - are you sure this is right game for you? I mean there are shooters much more simpler, without cooldowns, crafting and stuff, ever tried them?
So war is a part of this game , hence the war , war never changes ! So i guess this is the game for me , i am just not into roleplaying still i have no problems to do some minor roleplay if i wish to , but nothing so hardcore as redding at least not now , not yet , i think that was too obvious for me to point this out.
Anyway i play shooters and they are much more complicated then fonline.
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i have no problems to do some minor roleplay if i wish to , but nothing so hardcore as redding
(http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/images/smiles/whatamireading.png)
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(http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/images/smiles/whatamireading.png)
Surf discussing roleplaying in fonline 2238.
It works both ways man.
hmm wait .... something doesn't add up i think the guy should be looking very closely into the screen if it is meant to be hardcore expression or whatever.
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Surf discussing roleplaying in fonline 2238.
It works both ways man.
hmm wait .... something doesn't add up i think the guy should be looking very closely into the screen if it is meant to be hardcore expression or whatever.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/square/000/004/592/my-brain-is-full-of-fuck.jpg?1308197678)
Srsly what the fuck am I reading?
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Nice that your prime time is 1:00-2:00 AM when most of us is sleeping. Keep taking empty towns. I'm outlaw and I'm proud of it.
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2:00 AM(GMT+1) someone entered town...
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1549/beztytuuaet.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/beztytuuaet.jpg/)
14 people? Who other have at least 10 people in the middle of the night? My adivce for TSAR guys. Do not defend town against Children of Atom after 0 AM. Its pointless. Let them control empty place. After couple of hours you would have town again. Ofc they will retake it late in night but they are pvp alliance so maybe after few nights like that they will realize that there is no TC at 2.00 AM.
I told you that yesterday and i hope u will think about it.
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i dont understand ;/
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What the fuck ? What's the point to take a town in the middle of night .... we were TC'ing bh yesterday hoping they would come ..... noooo instead they decide to take some redding when everyone is sleeping.
Manero i think this has gone for a long time now , they don't understand.
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6085/pointlessu.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/pointlessu.jpg/)
hmm they had a fun night fighting the timer i guess , how mindless and brainless you have to be to do something like this?
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Well manero we dont have the choice since we are sleeping during "primetime", it's not like we have to choose if we defend the town at night or not. And i doubt people will quit their job or resign from school to kill some atoms.
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Isnt it their choice? To take any town in any time?
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It is but i thought we all are here to play against other players not the timer... ::)
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protip: that argument works both ways so stop it already.
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That's not an argument, i just pointed out the fact you wont find anyone to fight against at this hour, but yes of course it's your choice. I just dont understand the point.
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Isnt it their choice? To take any town in any time?
Everyone has to choose, but please realize decisions made in this game affect a taste of the game for other players. Of course it's their choice, but in this context they spoil fun for others. If you come with similar or higher number of players, they simply won't show up. If you come with less people they will outnumber you with their mercs.
Now we can choose: Die or die from boredom :-\
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It seems that kids never sleep if not get a story to good night.
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Isnt it their choice? To take any town in any time?
buhaha but its totally ridiculous to take towns in the middle of the night when noone gona show up to fight em.
Their goal is to what ? lost 2 hours of their time by just stupid standing in the town control zone, taking town after town without a fight ?
I really thought that the point of TC is to have some PvP - damn maybe im wrong or maybe some people just have napoleon complex ?
btw congrats for ttla for allie with reese xD this made my day hehe
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protip: that argument works both ways so stop it already.
The different is that one or two weeks ago there was no problem with fight before 0 AM and after few battles group on the picture(CoA) decided to "fight" around 2 AM. But its your time, have fun. Im sure u enjoy "the real pvp" when u spent almost two hours and dont fight anyone. If im good at math u finished not earlier than before ~3.30 AM. Hardcore ;D TSAR dont fight on their rules ;)
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All the TTTLA members join me to apology to not come to defend Redding when it's 5AM for most of us, to not fight people taking BH when it's 1PM for most of us, and mainly, to not live in your Time Zones.
But dont worry, we ll shortly try to move in your countries and/or to find another job :) !
One more useless and endless discussion... ;)
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I said it once there was no "problem" with time few weeks ago. Everyone know why "problem" appeared ;)
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(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6085/pointlessu.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/pointlessu.jpg/)
Photoshop would be easier, folks.
And by the way, I know that many of you is from Canada or from other countries which time zone is far from GMT +1, but you also have many people from this time zone. All in all, this look ridiculous. Maybe ask Surf or other Game Master to spawn you more critters to shoot cause this situation or nothing more than PvE without farming. You're taking town when we sleep or are in work. We're taking the town when you sleep or are in work. Come on guys, there must be some compromise. Key, same irony I heard when Grim's Reapers were taking Redding from hands of WWP. It's difficult to solve such time-zones problems and you know it. I think we all lost our way a bit, and many people, on the both sides wants to end this strange conflict, however someone's ego is too big to start thinking about any reasonable solution. I don't know who have such ego and I won't judge it. Just think about it.
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Once again, you're judging the lawyers and you talking about things you do not know.
Yes we have people living in your time zone but few are playing for different reasons (Desert Europe's project, other games, RL).
Manero, you're wrong, it was 4AM for me, 3AM for Crazy, but 9PM for Lemark, Slaz, Naerk and the other guys from Quebec... Most players start to play after work and diner you know, so around 9PM...
To talk about the screenshots:
- First of all, it's not written TTTLA but Children of Atom. It means TTTLA+Crazy88.
- On the screenshot of Manero, we are 14. There is 5 TTTLA...
To talk about that night:
- So our leader has arrived on Mumble and asked us if we wanted to do TC.
- Most of us were not very motivated because we all know that right now, TC is limited to kill the militia and to wait.
- Anyway we accepted, hoping that we would maybe have a good surprise and fight.
- The Crazy88, that you consider as our minions, wanted to play with the Reese's gang and Grims.
- Most of TTTLA did not agree for various reasons but said nothing cause we are not alone to decide even if you think something else.
- We did not want to play with them especially because we know we'll be troll for a another swarm. But we known also that cities would surely be empty so, why not, and we did it.
- We took Redding, and then the BHH asked us to take BH. We did it quickly, with a speacher...
- At that moment, some TTTLA went to bed because they did not want to continue to took empty cities.
- After two boring TC, The BHH / Reese suggested we contact the Section 8, and that they could join them do defend Den, and that we could attack Den, just for fun/fight.
What happened next? I do not know. At 5AM, addicted to 5 drugs, with 2 AP (not even able to take new drugs), I've left. And I do not know who took to the cities. But if there were TTTLA, they should certainly not be more than two, or three...
So, problems of ego? I do not think so...
But I know that we all hope that you ll find allies to attack us more often and that we ll have, all, good and big fights. Cause for small intensity fights, we all know where to meet ;)
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Once again same shit, like always. Season is ending so we have 2 forces :/
Welcome back in the time trap.
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No words.
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I think there is no better way to explain what is happening in Redding. Well.. maybe yes.
Dishonour, bullshit, pointless? I mean, what are you trying do do guys?
I was with some players at redding fighting against some BBS and WOOP 14 people fully geared like GIJOE spawning in group and rushing everything.
Something like, "ok leave the town guyz, let the pownzorz farm the 99.999.999 BA and take the town. Go wherever you want but you may know that we red-tagged you and we will rape you anytime we'll see you."
The fact of being poor ingame make me feel sooooo wonderful compared to you guys.
I think im out of this.
Have a nice day
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No words.
I think there is no better way to explain what is happening in Redding. Well.. maybe yes.
Dishonour, bullshit, pointless? I mean, what are you trying do do guys?
I was with some players at redding fighting against some BBS and WOOP 14 people fully geared like GIJOE spawning in group and rushing everything.
When you did with your new allies (who perfectly fit with your RP) it it was Honour and so. When we do it it's bullshit ? Always the same story...
Something like, "ok leave the town guyz, let the pownzorz farm the 99.999.999 BA and take the town.
Yeah, that's exactly why I gave an Highway to Isabelle (Tsar ? :) ) while we where doing some RP in Redding, why i gave armors/weapons (for free) this morning to some bluesuites in downtown, why I bought to Tsar Sniper (huh, surely a tsar isn't it ?) a very usefull RA and an APA for 1.4 millions (caps you will use to buy militia): because we want to be the most richest and stuff guys in the wasteland. That's also why i've bought a very usefull vomit for 500k or 1 million and other things like that... No, it's not for RP...
Go wherever you want but you may know that we red-tagged you and we will rape you anytime we'll see you."
Who's WE ??? Till 3 days I come in Redding without being KOS by most of your friends. So i do the same. And it's better like that. You should speak with them and with your other friends who send me PM for trading...
The fact of being poor ingame make me feel sooooo wonderful compared to you guys.
Good to know that you feel good.
I think im out of this.
Most of TTTLA also I think, that's surely why they, most of the time, don't answer. I will surely do the same quickly :) ...
Have a nice day too
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You should understand why people think it's not a problem of time-zone. When we were ally with C88 as TDP we fought in usual hours for GMT+1, and now you said that in the 14 players there were only 5 TTTLAs, so why 9 C88s are suddenly changing their time-zone from 2 months ago ?
I know you'll answer "usual rage against tttlas" or "stop trolling you pathetic", but that's not what i am doing. I'm just wondering why you absolutely want to own Redding, it's not for PVP neither for RP. So i agree with Killian, i think it's about ego. You just cannot handle to be considered as usual citizen in Redding, like Black Key or lunoi who feel free to shoot anyone in Redding because he is a so called TTTLA.
For us, you are just some lambda wastelander who belong to a group of people which we heard about in the north, you can't do your own law in Redding, yes that's roleplay. So, if you are supposed to make war with Sarmatians because they don't accept Lawyers supremacy, please do it by fighting us and by spread your doctrine in Redding while you handle the town. Killing militia at 2 am, wipe every citizen from redding and camp the grid waiting for red nicks to show up isn't about roleplay.
I was the last in TSAR to respect your "RP" and some of your guys, but now i'm really wondering if you are better than CS.
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You should understand why people think it's not a problem of time-zone. When we were ally with C88 as TDP we fought in usual hours for GMT+1, and now you said that in the 14 players there were only 5 TTTLAs, so why 9 C88s are suddenly changing their time-zone from 2 months ago ?
Thats right, they dont play so late since always. In recent weeks, months, years they fought earlier, problem show up when they started to loosing control. But who cares if they don't want to fight its not mine buisness.
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Everyone has to choose, but please realize decisions made in this game affect a taste of the game for other players. Of course it's their choice, but in this context they spoil fun for others.
PKs too...
Who blame them for it?
Its funny to read how TTLA are so bad. In fact, they are not, they are doing everything in absolutely same way as other gangs do/did. So whats the point? You want "win" this thread? Or you will be happy when TTLA players will not play? Guys, its a game, they are playing it and you have useles hard feelings ... Thats what i think
PS: You really should relax a bit, they are really same cool guys as you or anyone else
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Or you will be happy when TTLA players will not play?
We will be happy when they'll actually play the game.
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We will be happy when they'll actually play the game.
You should make a suggestion about a feature to prevent people to be able to play after some hour or when you're not there to defend yourself.
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PKs too...
Who blame them for it?
Nobody, do you know why? Typical PKs don't claim to be "good guys" who help others and so on.
Its funny to read how TTLA are so bad. In fact, they are not, they are doing everything in absolutely same way as other gangs do/did.
Sure, they are not better or worse than any other gang. Then why do they kill you if you are seen with another gang they don't like, shouting FOR THE GREAT JUSTICE!
PS: You really should relax a bit, they are really same cool guys as you or anyone else
No doubt about it. Personaly I don't have any harsh feelings towards any of them. I just want this game to be more enjoyable for you, them, us, simply for everyone and that's the point.
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...Its funny to read how TTLA are so bad. In fact, they are not, they are doing everything in absolutely same way as other gangs do/did. So whats the point? You want "win" this thread? Or you will be happy when TTLA players will not play? Guys, its a game, they are playing it and you have useles hard feelings ... Thats what i think
PS: You really should relax a bit, they are really same cool guys as you or anyone else
Holo you should often play 2238 then you will understand essence of this conflict and that TTTLA common with C88 puppets arent so cool guys only because they invited you to fight, on their mumble.
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I dont understand, there were windows for TC and very few liked its, now seem that very few like that you can TC everytime...
And for TTTLA habits I think that be shooted at the shout FOR THE GREAT JUSTICE is very nice comparing to the usual words you can read. ;D
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...Reese's gang...
Just so everyone can know, we aren't "Reese's Gang"...noone wants to be, seriously.
We are just freelancers, part of the GR/DoW/S8/BHH alliance.
If you really want to troll us, you can call us "reese's gang".
Just had to say this. :)
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Just so everyone can know, we aren't "Reese's Gang"...noone wants to be, seriously.
We are just freelancers, part of the GR/DoW/S8/BHH alliance.
If you really want to troll us, you can call us "reese's gang".
Just had to say this. :)
you are my slave, rawr
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Holo you should often play 2238 then you will understand essence of this conflict and that TTTLA common with C88 puppets arent so cool guys only because they invited you to fight, on their mumble.
I play 2238 enough to know that you acting like a kids with all this "serious" gang things ..
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Dont forget this topic isnt about us Hawks and your bad feelings, but unfair attacks to Redding (when they had agreement), taking cities late at the morning almost each day, marking TSAR like enemies without a reason, about much more stable RP of TSAR, which tries to destroy CoA, about paradox suprise, when they were shot by TSAR and so on. I think you dont know enough.
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I'm starting to find these threads quite funny. And the funniest part is, that because of university I can't be active in game and these threads keep me informed about what's going on. But when I finally have some time to play the game, enmities are no more, those we used to hate have magically become our most trusted friends, while those we use to rely on are now our greatest enemies. And when I finally get my ass on the battlefield, I see a lot of red/unknown names on my side and some green names I gotta shoot at.
There is no way to be sure if after one or two months I will be sharing a base name with that guy who trolled me or with that other guy I insulted, or with both. I won't stop reading the forums because I like being relatively informed about what the hell is happening, but there is no real point in posting.
You can continue with the drama now.
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Well, no offence guys but this discussion leads to nowhere. Seems like everyone keeps talking same shits.
"Oh you've raided my town, but imma TSAR, hurr hurr!"
"Oh you're talking about things you don't know, imma lawyer hurr hurr!"
I don't really know what's the point of the crymoars of both of you. If you wanna do something reasonable, hide your pride in pockets for a while and think about the optimal solution. If not, continue the pointless PvE circle TSAR - CoA - TMT - TSAR - CoA - TMT ...
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I wouldint call some things for "shits" man. We should be able to see diffrence between trying to turn something around into magical truth and simply facts.
We all know that TTTLA and C88 were in the past mostly playing at simillar hours to ours (around 20:00 to 24:00 GMT+1). They cannot change this fact, but they can apparently at least cheat themselves into beliving that they were not. Its okey, i dont care.
They can also destroy part of RP on the server annoying people by taking the towns at night. Why? Becouse TSARs are allied with Rogues? Well, that happend one week after TTTLA and C88 started attacking. So its not a valible point, unless you force yourself into beliving it is. What is the valible point? Only TTTLA and C88 knows i guess... Or do they? I guess i will not find this answer here, but in Redding, which is clear to me, they want to PVE.
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What Redding looks like 75% of the time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVsTrLW_04U&feature=player_detailpage#t=212s
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You should make a suggestion about a feature to prevent people to be able to play after some hour or when you're not there to defend yourself.
I think you should tell to your faction to behave in another way when they are loosing at PVP, changing timezone isn't a solution. You should wonder why half of the wasteland think you are pathetic.
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I wouldint call some things for "shits" man. We should be able to see diffrence between trying to turn something around into magical truth and simply facts.
We all know that TTTLA and C88 were in the past mostly playing at simillar hours to ours (around 20:00 to 24:00 GMT+1). They cannot change this fact, but they can apparently at least cheat themselves into beliving that they were not. Its okey, i dont care.
They can also destroy part of RP on the server annoying people by taking the towns at night. Why? Becouse TSARs are allied with Rogues? Well, that happend one week after TTTLA and C88 started attacking. So its not a valible point, unless you force yourself into beliving it is. What is the valible point? Only TTTLA and C88 knows i guess... Or do they? I guess i will not find this answer here, but in Redding, which is clear to me, they want to PVE.
Hehe, funny guys.
People on 2238 complain for 2 years about our time zone. Ask MSH, it was same shit during NA VS DA time etc.. At your 20 dude is 14 for me and I work....
For the other thing Manero was in the town with you the day we strike for the first time.
End of topic for me, have fun complaining, we have fun in game ;)
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And TTTLAs+C88s are playing at usual GMT+1 hours since ever but they all suddenly moved to another country at the same time, it makes sense right ? People complain about your coward attitude, nothing else. Go on, apply the "great justice" to NPCs, gl hf.
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And TTTLAs+C88s are playing at usual GMT+1 hours since ever but they all suddenly moved to another country at the same time, it makes sense right ? People complain about your coward attitude, nothing else. Go on, apply the "great justice" to NPCs, gl hf.
Do we came here earlier when we got swarmed on Redding earlier ? No. The other days ? No. Do we complaign in general ? No.
Do you complain every day of your fonline life ? Yes. You just crying babie to me.
Keep your lessons of behaviour for those who cares. Me not.
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It's funny that Lawyers enjoying the winning but not playing. It's very interesting experience to read such words from the major community whiners. You can rage, you can troll me, I don't care. But you cannot change the facts. Don't you see you're acting excatly same, like your worst enemies, Chosen Soldiers did? Why the most of community thinks they're retarded? They thinks they're invincible. Then, they lost. You'll lose in same way. It's same like Wichura told during the Peacekeepers period. You can win but you're still retarded.
we have fun in game
Keep acting dumb, keep taking empty towns when adversaries are sleeping, keep posting your e-prostate in querries via IRC, go on. I wish your pride overthrow you. EOT from my side.
Keep your lessons of behaviour for those who cares. Me not.
So why the f*ck you're posting this message? Do you see any logical sense other than forcing yourself to be a badass of the wasteland? I do not.
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Well, the Troll & Talk & Toughguy Lunatic's Agency at its best. It doesn't matter how carebearish the team fighting against the lunatic's agency is. We'll join them. For the holy law, hey.
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I said it, they have really some kind of mental block.
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Lawyers prevet roleplaying in downtown, I start new project - when
Lawyers criminals have town, all people of good will can gather around last gasp saloon and mine entrance! Then we can roleplay downtown folks are douchbags who hate good mine folks! Like 2 quarters of town...
I mean real RP not killing miners. Make Last Gasp Salloon new meeting place!
Something like old Modoc militia, actually guarding miners, not hidng behind militia in downtown and killing innocents...
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I wouldint call some things for "shits" man. We should be able to see diffrence between trying to turn something around into magical truth and simply facts.
We all know that TTTLA and C88 were in the past mostly playing at simillar hours to ours (around 20:00 to 24:00 GMT+1). They cannot change this fact, but they can apparently at least cheat themselves into beliving that they were not. Its okey, i dont care.
They can also destroy part of RP on the server annoying people by taking the towns at night. Why? Becouse TSARs are allied with Rogues? Well, that happend one week after TTTLA and C88 started attacking. So its not a valible point, unless you force yourself into beliving it is. What is the valible point? Only TTTLA and C88 knows i guess... Or do they? I guess i will not find this answer here, but in Redding, which is clear to me, they want to PVE.
Just curios, what's "valible" supposed to mean?
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Just curios, what's "valible" supposed to mean?
I suppose i ment Valid. ;)
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Do we came here earlier when we got swarmed on Redding earlier ? No. The other days ? No. Do we complaign in general ? No.
Listen you even mentioning " swarm " aka big numbers ? Guess what , who was the first to make another swarm ? Rest of the server is always adapting to your numbers not vise versa , haven't you noticed that , the only subject we complain about is your stupidity , hoping we can get a straight answer and maybe understand you , but instead you post some bullshit!
Just so everyone can know, we aren't "Reese's Gang"...noone wants to be, seriously.
We are just freelancers, part of the GR/DoW/S8/BHH alliance.
If you really want to troll us, you can call us "reese's gang".
Just had to say this. :)
Yes , you are reese's gang because he is the main indicator that you are around ;D Everyone knows you are freelancers , but it's hard to mention you guys , you don't have a name aka the faceless blob :)
End of topic for me, have fun complaining, we have fun in game ;)
Since when pve is fun ?
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Lawyers prevet roleplaying in downtown, I start new project - when Lawyers criminals have town, all people of good will can gather around last gasp saloon and mine entrance! Then we can roleplay downtown folks are douchbags who hate good mine folks! Like 2 quarters of town...
I mean real RP not killing miners. Make Last Gasp Salloon new meeting place!
Something like old Modoc militia, actually guarding miners, not hidng behind militia in downtown and killing innocents...
Knights! Squires! Commoners!
Is this Queen Redding? Does she deserve our swords? Is she the hero we need, or the hero we deserve?
You know what, Jovanka? You can have me if you stop running and start learning to accept your fate. Through pain to salvation, methinks.
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Lawyers prevet roleplaying in downtown, I start new project - when Lawyers criminals have town, all people of good will can gather around last gasp saloon and mine entrance! Then we can roleplay downtown folks are douchbags who hate good mine folks! Like 2 quarters of town...
I mean real RP not killing miners. Make Last Gasp Salloon new meeting place!
Something like old Modoc militia, actually guarding miners, not hidng behind militia in downtown and killing innocents...
Well, not bad idea, Jovanka. But I'm afraid that Children of Atom would ruin this too in the name of revenge for two Sarmatians who've helped Hawks in Gecko...
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Why are you guys even complaining about TTTLA/CoA anyway? All they could do in the past week was take the town at 3AM and lose it the first time somebody bothered to attack it. All you really need to secure any town more or less for good is some badass militia and 3 or 4 guys willing to log in and support it on short notice. The thing is that people who are capable of doing that prefer to have some PvP there instead, especially since 3AM-prime-time TC makes any sort of control of any town a little bit retarded. Heck, I'd say it's a good idea to disable TC during GMT night hours if not for the fact that there actually are some people who play from America, unlike certain European players who just lack cojones to face their opposition in an open fight and prefer being joybreaking assholes instead... really, I'm at loss for words when people act like that, breaking some other guys' projects just for the sake of lying they can control anything in the wasteland when in fact they can't. It's just really, really low.
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I would rather see the tc actions time zone dependent then force all to play by GMT daytime so Den, Redding and Brokken Hills each would have 8 hour till they can be captured then no matter what the city is untakable. Madoc and Klamath should stay as it is.
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I would rather see the tc actions time zone dependent then force all to play by GMT daytime so Den, Redding and Brokken Hills each would have 8 hour till they can be captured then no matter what the city is untakable. Madoc and Klamath should stay as it is.
If you're saying have each town capturable only during a certain time I give +1
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Yeah thats what I whished to say.
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I would rather see the tc actions time zone dependent then force all to play by GMT daytime so Den, Redding and Brokken Hills each would have 8 hour till they can be captured then no matter what the city is untakable. Madoc and Klamath should stay as it is.
TC used to be like this, but it was taken away for various reasons.
Personally I am against it as it discriminates against a minority based on location (I am gmt +13).
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It's not my intention to put a this The Truth kind of end to the discussion about what's going in the town this thread takes its title from, but instead I would like to step on the "outer" side of the discussion and ask the reader to NOT define the faction I am a part of (Crazy 88) only from the alliance it's in at the moment (Children of Atom) and especially not only from what this alliance does in Redding. Please don't define every single Crazy 88 member only from what the faction does in Redding, and don't define FOnline 2238 only from Redding.
This is at the moment the only thing I am insterested in saying. I can't care much about the "inner" and most important part of the discussion, because as I said on my other post here, this will most probably be all over magically after a couple of months or something, so there is not point in trying to add anything to a discussion which is dominated by those who don't really want a positive solution to this drama.
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Lawyers prevet roleplaying in downtown, I start new project - when Lawyers criminals have town, all people of good will can gather around last gasp saloon and mine entrance! Then we can roleplay downtown folks are douchbags who hate good mine folks! Like 2 quarters of town...
I mean real RP not killing miners. Make Last Gasp Salloon new meeting place!
Something like old Modoc militia, actually guarding miners, not hidng behind militia in downtown and killing innocents...
Kokoweef Kool Kids for life. Happy hour at Last Gasp Saloon, all beers on me.
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Kokoweef Kool Kids for life. Happy hour at Last Gasp Saloon, all beers on me.
perhaps with a different name...
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People on 2238 complain for 2 years about our time zone. Ask MSH, it was same shit during NA VS DA time etc.. At your 20 dude is 14 for me and I work....
yea its the same story over and over again, since developers disabled "tc-window" - actually i dont know why they did that, everyone was pleased with thoes system.. maybe only few windoes required small changes but generally it was ok.
from our point of view you are hidding ;) in NA vs DA (dark alliance ? wtf - that was dark side ..of the wasteland btw) most of the players was from europe. most of them -becouse every team have people form different time zones. you guys have many players form north america , we have many players from asia (siberia, kazahstan) and i belive we can find some solution for our "problem" if we really want to.
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Well the problem with finding solutions together is that some people are interested in chivalry and fighting for the sake of fighting and some people (a minority, but there's enough to make an impact) care only about "winning" in terms of outcome - ie. not winning battles, but having their name out there in pipboy. You can't really settle anything with the latter group because they have a "everything goes as long as we profit from it" mentality. I mean look at the situation with militia - I think about 80% of PvP players want to play PvP without any militia involved and would gladly agree for a pact that bans the use of militia, but the remaining 20% will buy it no matter what so in the end almost everybody tends to use those overpowered bastards. It's not only a problem with Redding, but other TC-enabled towns as well... and honestly, I don't know if anything can be done about that without a major nerf to the militia. I mean it was never supposed to be a gamebreaker or something gamechanging even for the bigger alliances, it was supposed to be a safeguard against trollcaptures; 400 HP and S-tier weapons are just doing way too much and I don't think anyone would disagree that the militia is the single most important factor during TC battles (ie. everything you do during a fight is centered around militia as long as there are some alive). There are so many issues that could be solved if gangs came to an agreement... sadly, in the current reality of the game any lasting agreement seems to be impossible :-\ Even if we came to terms on such issues, there'd always be assholes that break the rules, somebody would get mad and retaliate in kind and bam - the entire agreement is shattered. Happened so many times it's a small wonder that people still keep trying. Honestly, I don't see any way around that.
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Bah I'd rather have militia than just to find every day that Jean and his 4 friends had some free time in the Canada. But this horse has been beaten enough, there is no way to make everyone happy.
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Why not then make town captured by gang A if only atleast X members are alive and are in town, if they leave/die, the town will belong to No faction. When town under your control, every X minutes or some period of time you'll get some benefit from it, if you'll come at night when everyone is sleeping you'll get bonus, then others will come at day and they have have bonus and everyone will be happy! But if more than 1 gang will come at the same time they will have to make other gang dead or else there will be no bonus. And if someone at night will capture town and will keep it to get bonus, noone will see thier name at pip-boy, because everyone is sleeping, and at morning they will leave anyway, or someone will come and kill them. May be that bonus can be affected by players online at server, but then they will have to use proxy alts, I mean thier grandmothers and cats, to play game, but still it's hard to imitate day's online at night. Also bonus can be affected by number of players inside town, this way there will be a reason to protect people, if there will be less than 20 players, then no bonus at all, and than more alive people standing in town than more bonus. So to get benefit from capturing town at night you'll need to use alot proxies and call all your friends who will hang in town just to get that bonus.
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Holy Spaghetti Monster, this "CoA are cowards" argument has gone so overboard I'm surprised it hasn't made a full keelhauling and come back to the other side yet. Actually, let's bring it there, and go through this stupidity with at least an ounce of methodology.
It is said that CoA suddenly "chickened out" and only captures towns at 3am gmt, when before they used to do TC much earlier. The argument is that this must be because they are too afraid to lose the fight to even try.
Maybe it looks like a compelling argument, but only if you don't know anything about the circumstances. So let me bring the rest of you trololos here up to speed with some down to earth fact and logic, so that for once you can see the opinion you're shoving down your throats before you take destroyer's word for it that it's makes you look clever.
For the past several months, the combined forces of C88 and TTTLA have fluctuated heavily from day to day and from hour to hour. During european daytime, on the weekdays, we have usually only a handful of people online, if anybody at all, and the numbers are usually growing toward the evening and culminating at night around 1 or 2 am. The exact reason for this I don't know, but the situation have been the same for much longer than TSAR's recent redding project.
The thing that has changed, however, is the number of enemies of TTTLA and C88. During the summer there was a substantial drought in TC, basically our only enemies were BHH, and we were able to fight them with relatively small numbers. Since TSAR took Redding, however, our enemies have been more numerous. Of course we can't attack an alliance of 20 people if we only have 10 ourselves, especially if you have the 500hp merc militia that is the trademark of TSAR.
Nobody will attack unless there's at least a small chance of winning, this is nothing unique to TTTLA or C88 or any other faction. A fight can be fun even if you lose, but if the numbers are too skewed, the fight will be too one sided to be enjoyable. For this reason we have been forced to wait until the numbers have equalised. The exact moment this happens depends on several factors, including day to day variations, but if the militia is strong you need at least 10 people to try something. If additionally there are enemies to defend, you need more. So when TSAR holds the town, we are forced to wait until we have enough people to strike. It's not our fault that this usually doesn't happen until after midnight, when TSAR is starting to go to bed and CoA get more people online due to people from other time zones coming home from work.
The fact of the matter is that the recent TSAR, BBS, Hawk and Rogue alliance regularly have more than 20 people online, a number that CoA haven't been able to reach in over a month. We are severely outnumbered during the day, just as you are sometimes outnumbered during the night. You are the ones complaining about late attacks, but the same logic can be applied in reverse: you are the ones attacking too early. Are you enjoying the PvE, retaking the town from us each day before we have enough numbers to counter you? You are such cowards for attacking us when there's no chance for an equal fight, trolololo.
It's beyond me how you can't see the symmetry in this situation. You must be either completely retarded or so convinced that you're right to begin with that you put even young earth creationists to shame in the blind faith contest.
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Why do you even post if you haven't read at least most of the posts ? It's boring to quote your le wall of text.
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Why do you even post if you haven't read at least most of the posts ? It's boring to quote your le wall of text.
Did you realize that its ALSO boring read your wall of complains? I am not on any side, but come on guys ... :-X
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@Lidae
The hilarious part is that I've been to a few TC attacks where we didn't even buy militia after liberating the town, hoping to get some action. Didn't really happen. And besides it's not like we can't talk this through and decide that for example we don't use more than 10 people at any given time and don't buy any militia... right? But that wouldn't go too well with your "we must win even if we have to capture the cities at 3 AM" mentality, now would it? And saying that we come too early... dude, ever heard of circadian rhythm? No sane person is going to wait till the morning to humour your dreams of glory and no matter how elaborate rhetoric you use to justify it, European players waiting to challenge their opposition till that time for whatever reasons are going to get laughed at, hard.
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You're wrong Nice_Boat. The hilarious part is not that.
The hilarious part, and all the old Fonline players know that, is that tomorrow, the situation will change. Players and gangs don't like powerfull gangs and alliances. Most of them have face growing opposition forces and have been finally defeat. PK, APK, and other alliances. Remember...
So guys, you're the most powerfull at the moment. Most of the time, we come, we try to fight even if we know that we will loose.
The situation was inverted in the past, and it will be in the future.
So the hilarious part will be at that moment, because you will surely lost memory and forget what you have said. But the web will not and it will be simple to quote you. And particulary, we will see what will do those who give us lessons of behaviour at the moment...
Good game !
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Did you realize that its ALSO boring read your wall of complains? I am not on any side, but come on guys ... :-X
If people don't read at least most of the topic and posts they repeat already discussed subjects and make this thread even bigger , boring to read.
So the hilarious part will be at that moment, because you will surely lost memory and forget what you have said. But the web will not and it will be simple to quote you. And particulary, we will see what will do those who give us lessons of behaviour at the moment...
Good game !
The hilarious part is that it's your own fault you have to deal with such a number now , don't even mention anything hilarious man.
I suggest you make love with hawks or tsar again , or and maybe call in reese's gang ? ;D I don't know if it is even possible now , you guys are just too unnecessary complicated , i really don't give a fuck anymore because i want to have some interesting battles , i want to be challenged once in a while and i'm not the only one.
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The hilarious part is that it's your own fault you have to deal with such a number now , don't even mention anything hilarious man.
Did you notice ? We don't complain and continue to fight. When it's hard it's interesting, to do and to analyse after, even if you loose.
I suggest you make love with hawks or tsar again , or and maybe call in reese's gang ? ;D I don't know if it is even possible now , you guys are just too unecessary complicated , i really don't give a fuck anymore because i want to have some interesting battles , i want to be challenged once in a while and i'm not the only one.
You will surely not understand because it seems that you mainly enjoy to fight and to be vulgar but we have refuse some alliances for RP reasons. And we don't mind at the moment if it continues like that. It's not boring for us, we face good fighters. But yes, simple minds like simple things...
Anyway, you should change your signature. "Who is that bluesuit ? Live target practice !" doesn't really fit with your new "White Knights" alliance, protectors of the RP in the Wasteland.
Oh ! I've forgot: message transmitted.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5554/msgh.jpg)
Advice: open a book to learn that on sunday, it's a day off in most of the countries (So yes, on sunday at 3PM, we can fight) and that during the week most of the people are working at 3PM (and so we can't fight). At the same time you will surely learn some smartest words...
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So the hilarious part will be at that moment, because you will surely lost memory and forget what you have said. But the web will not and it will be simple to quote you. And particulary, we will see what will do those who give us lessons of behaviour at the moment...
Good game !
Dude, I've been around since 2009, my gang has been in dire straits many times and not even once have I set my alarm clock to ring at 3 AM aiming to dodge our opponents and take the towns nobody was guarding at the moment. You guys just keep playing dirty to the extent it defies common sense. That's the difference and that's why you're getting ridiculed and everyone else is not. Deal with it.
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Did you notice ? We don't complain and continue to fight. When it's hard it's interesting, to do and to analyse after, even if you loose.
Amen you should try harder :)
You will surely not understand because it seems that you mainly enjoy to fight and to be vulgar but we have refuse some alliances for RP reasons. And we don't mind at the moment if it continues like that. It's not boring for us, we face good fighters. But yes, simple minds like simple things...
Anyway, you should change your signature. "Who is that bluesuit ? Live target practice !" doesn't really fit with your new "White Knights" alliance, protectors of the RP in the Wasteland.
You got that right i'm pvp oriented and i don't prefer to roleplay , i'm mostly vulgar when i don't give a rats ass dunno maybe it's because of my careless mood , but hey at least i'm not the one that seeks " justice " eradicating all " outlaws " in the wasteland , i may go with a simple thought but at least it's not a sick one. I guess lunatics like weird things.
Since when rogues are roleplay oriented ? Did i miss something or is it your stupidity ....
Oh ! I've forgot: message transmitted.
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Advice: open a book to learn that on sunday, it's a day off in most of the countries (So yes, on sunday at 3PM, we can fight) and that during the week most of the people are working at 3PM (and so we can't fight). At the same time you will surely learn some smartest words...
I was referring to this. Hah now i know he got the message thanks.
(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/6872/douchebag.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/douchebag.jpg/)
Man how cheesy can you get ?
Your still talking about the timezones ? It's discussed already.
btw about your RP restrictions , it's still your fault...
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Dude, I've been around since 2009, my gang has been in dire straits many times and not even once have I set my alarm clock to ring at 3 AM aiming to dodge our opponents and take the towns nobody was guarding at the moment. You guys just keep playing dirty to the extent it defies common sense. That's the difference and that's why you're getting ridiculed and everyone else is not. Deal with it.
Thx Nice Boat nothing else to tell...
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and maybe call in reese's gang ? ;D
Do not say it too loud or they will do it :D
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All of you should seriously read Lidae's post. According to how you write and argumentate your posts, you didn't read the Wall of Text or either you aren't able to analyze and understand corrently an argumentation from a different point of view from yours.
For the past several months, the combined forces of C88 and TTTLA have fluctuated heavily from day to day and from hour to hour. During european daytime, on the weekdays, we have usually only a handful of people online, if anybody at all, and the numbers are usually growing toward the evening and culminating at night around 1 or 2 am. The exact reason for this I don't know, but the situation have been the same for much longer than TSAR's recent redding project.
The thing that has changed, however, is the number of enemies of TTTLA and C88. During the summer there was a substantial drought in TC, basically our only enemies were BHH, and we were able to fight them with relatively small numbers. Since TSAR took Redding, however, our enemies have been more numerous. Of course we can't attack an alliance of 20 people if we only have 10 ourselves, especially if you have the 500hp merc militia that is the trademark of TSAR.
Nobody will attack unless there's at least a small chance of winning, this is nothing unique to TTTLA or C88 or any other faction. A fight can be fun even if you lose, but if the numbers are too skewed, the fight will be too one sided to be enjoyable. For this reason we have been forced to wait until the numbers have equalised. The exact moment this happens depends on several factors, including day to day variations, but if the militia is strong you need at least 10 people to try something. If additionally there are enemies to defend, you need more. So when TSAR holds the town, we are forced to wait until we have enough people to strike. It's not our fault that this usually doesn't happen until after midnight, when TSAR is starting to go to bed and CoA get more people online due to people from other time zones coming home from work.
The fact of the matter is that the recent TSAR, BBS, Hawk and Rogue alliance regularly have more than 20 people online, a number that CoA haven't been able to reach in over a month. We are severely outnumbered during the day, just as you are sometimes outnumbered during the night. You are the ones complaining about late attacks, but the same logic can be applied in reverse: you are the ones attacking too early. Are you enjoying the PvE, retaking the town from us each day before we have enough numbers to counter you? You are such cowards for attacking us when there's no chance for an equal fight, trolololo.
So, I kindly invite everyone so blood thirst to fight with us, to come to our public channel #Crazy88 in Forest.net IRC and we can set up fights checking numbers both of the contenders have.
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Dude, I've been around since 2009, my gang has been in dire straits many times and not even once have I set my alarm clock to ring at 3 AM aiming to dodge our opponents and take the towns nobody was guarding at the moment. You guys just keep playing dirty to the extent it defies common sense. That's the difference and that's why you're getting ridiculed and everyone else is not. Deal with it.
protip: we never set our alarm clocks to 8am the morning on weekends just to take the town, there are just some people that are allowed to stay up past 11pm and dont get send to bed by mommy.
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protip: we never set our alarm clocks to 8am the morning on weekends just to take the town, there are just some people that are allowed to stay up past 11pm and dont get send to bed by mommy.
Sorry to have girlfriends and/or irl lifes !
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So, I kindly invite everyone so blood thirst to fight with us, to come to our public channel #Crazy88 in Forest.net IRC and we can set up fights checking numbers both of the contenders have.
This is supposed to be at anytime. You don't have excuses now.
Just for the records: after 5 hours from the invitation nobody still shown up.
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especially if you have the 500hp merc militia that is the trademark of TSAR.
I love this part.
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This is supposed to be at anytime. You don't have excuses now.
Just for the records: after 5 hours from the invitation nobody still shown up.
Like someone said, you guys declare war to everybody on the server, and now you wonder why enemies are so numerous.
So sorry, but there are just too many that want to fight you becouse of your actions. Live with consequences of your actions.
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There's no answer in your reply.
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There's no answer in your reply.
How can "Live with it" not be an answer enough? ::) Another way to say this would be in LeMarks and Chamo way of post: Keep whinning and we will keep enjoying the game.
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So sorry, but there are just too many that want to fight you becouse of your actions. Live with consequences of your actions.
in the Czech Republic we have a saying:
...For each pig boils water...
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in the Czech Republic we have a saying:
...For each pig boils water...
And i guess that you JUST KNOW who is pig and who not right? 8)
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It knows more people not just me. :)
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So guys, i trying to find answer what is going on in Redding, especially with TSARs. I was killed two times without any reason by TSARs, my stuff was stolen and i am "not welcome in town", needless to say that without any reason again.
So i dont know where is problem. TSARs are absolutely same as any other gangs, they killing without any reason, there is not any claimed RP and they are behave like "big bosses" of Redding.
Next time dont complain about some TTLA or others because i thought you will do things in another way but NO, you are doing same.
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I'm not TSAR, but maybe give names of those who killed you, because without names it's as good as shouting "GM ABOOZE!!" everytime something weird on server happens.
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So guys, i trying to find answer what is going on in Redding, especially with TSARs. I was killed two times without any reason by TSARs, my stuff was stolen and i am "not welcome in town", needless to say that without any reason again.
So i dont know where is problem. TSARs are absolutely same as any other gangs, they killing without any reason, there is not any claimed RP and they are behave like "big bosses" of Redding.
Next time dont complain about some TTLA or others because i thought you will do things in another way but NO, you are doing same.
Let me guess, you were the guy named SEZEM something with a throwing knife? :) Yeah, killing people in downtown is not allowed in town, so you broke the most simple rule ;)
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Let me guess, you were the guy named SEZEM something with a throwing knife? :) Yeah, killing people in downtown is not allowed in town, so you broke the most simple rule ;)
Wow, so i killed someone? Thats surprise because i didnt know it. I only know that when i was first time there so guy called "Laserdozer" killed me dunno why, of course i didnt get my stuff back. When i was in Redding yesterday "head shot" killed me when others said its "ok". Then some "play boy" attacked me, calling in crazy tone "he is PKPKPKP".
Guys, thats character was not used for some 4 months and i didnt killed ANYONE from yours. I see only arogance from your side.
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Maybe they don't like you holo? Reason enough for me ;D
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Holo, your guys are doing same thing shouting "outlaw, outlaw!" and shooting us. I don't get it, i mean to have "good" and "bad" alts. We don't know everyone, if someone trusted tells you that some guy is enemy you shoots.
When i was in Redding yesterday "head shot"
I'm afraid it was me, sorry, but that's the price we pay for the war with the former allies.
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Holo, your guys are doing same thing shouting "outlaw, outlaw!" and shooting us. I don't get it, i mean to have "good" and "bad" alts. We don't know everyone, if someone trusted tells you that some guy is enemy you shoots.I'm afraid it was me, sorry, but that's the price we pay for the war with the former allies.
My guys? I dont have any guys and personally i didnt shout "outlaw" to anyone.
I just wanted to share my opinion about "what the hel is going on in Redding". No offense. Its allright now
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sounds like redding is "becoming" a "new suburb" of Reno....
*Chuckles and eats more popcorn*
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This stuff is just childish. "We don't like you, you misbehaved, we will kill you on sight because we don't take kindly to people like you" is just the way every single gang and its dog works and certainly not the way to run an open, player-guarded town. Why do the TSAR people consider themselves special, better or god forbid privileged? I have more respect for BHH as they actually run a fairly safe town and protect their noobs (heck, they helped my miner once even though we're often fighting and they know he's an enemy character, mad respect for that), but you guys just participate in the common power struggle with a fair helping of TTTLA-worthy propaganda. I also advise every gang to kill TSAR members on sight in their towns, last time my team was holding Redding Valagar came claiming he just wanted to talk and chill inside and shortly after he left (with all the info on our strength inside he needed) a Hawk/TSAR swarm appeared and attacked the town. I do realize that you could just say "ya, BBS's dun goofed", but this sort of a trick only works once.
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As member of the Sarmatians I don't feel special in any way. I just take care about my own agenda, even not the faction one like most of us does. Eeach Sarmatian is unique inividuality, that's why we don't have any gang policy or whatever you call it. Personally I don't care if you respect this or other group or not as much as I don't care about Redding and this all shit about this place, but from this what I've seen your group, Nice_Boat feels they can do what they want. How will you call people "standing and chilling/afking" in town, and few hours later same people who coming to take the town? You're writing how bad they are because they killed you for messing in their towns? That's wasteland. Deal with it.
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...last time my team was holding Redding Valagar came claiming he just wanted to talk and chill inside and shortly after he left (with all the info on our strength inside he needed) a Hawk/TSAR swarm appeared and attacked the town.
Personally I don't know about it but these kinds of things happen all the time. You meet one or two C88 members friendly talking with you on downtown and in a while you see TTTLA swarm spawning on Mine. Not only them, in the past when WWP had the town there were some "friendly" Rogues on downtown and one hour later they were taking Redding.
Why do the TSAR people consider themselves special, better or god forbid privileged?
In fact, TSAR are special because they managed to keep the town alive for a while (yes, with boosted 500 hp militia) and even though I like what BHH do in BH, I still don't think they ever had such success like TSAR.
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In fact, TSAR are special because they managed to keep the town alive for a while (yes, with boosted 500 hp militia) and even though I like what BHH do in BH, I still don't think they ever had such success like TSAR.
And TTLAs not?
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TTTLA swarm
Says the swarmers + mercs users.
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In fact, TSAR are special because they managed to keep the town alive for a while (yes, with boosted 500 hp militia)
Militia can be kill by any gang,I will say with the help of the Hawk, the C88, the Lawyer and VSB. But somewhere they forgot about that.
And I completely agree about the BHH, personally it is they perseverance I appreciate the must.
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Militia can be kill by any gang,I will say with the help of the Hawk, the C88, the Lawyer and VSB. But somewhere they forgot about that.
And I completely agree about the BHH, personally it is they perseverance I appreciate the must.
Yes lawyers and lawyer allies help so much when they kill all militia, kill bluesuits and others in town, take it, then camp it. So much help, how dare we not show our appreciation, we should be flogged to death. ::)
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Yes lawyers and lawyer allies help so much when they kill all militia, kill bluesuits and others in town, take it, then camp it. So much help, how dare we not show our appreciation, we should be flogged to death. ::)
OMG you are so stupid, you didnt understand I was talking about the situation before we strike the town? Stop gaming go to school!
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OMG you are so stupid, you didnt understand I was talking about the situation before we strike the town? Stop gaming go to school!
"oh em gee" you are so stupid I am talking about situation after you strike town. Stop gaming go to kindergarten already.
Talk about an outburst...
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"oh em gee" you are so stupid I am talking about situation after you strike town. Stop gaming go to kindergarten already.
Talk about an outburst...
Mich can be a nasty troll sometimes,but i am afraid he's everything but stupid,and this time might be right.
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Says the swarmers + mercs users.
Its not really funny, those guys trying something solve. :)
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Both sides have hardheads in their ranks, that's why this conflict wouldn't be solved soon. But both Sarmatians and Lawyers should think about it imho, before half of their teams will quit due to the boredom by this reddishit.
Anyways, no matter what the outcome, the caps must flow.
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Wow, so i killed someone? Thats surprise because i didnt know it. I only know that when i was first time there so guy called "Laserdozer" killed me dunno why, of course i didnt get my stuff back. When i was in Redding yesterday "head shot" killed me when others said its "ok". Then some "play boy" attacked me, calling in crazy tone "he is PKPKPKP".
Guys, thats character was not used for some 4 months and i didnt killed ANYONE from yours. I see only arogance from your side.
Oh, so it is you? :) Well, i would say that i am not sure and this is missunderstanding, but the funny thing is, that you killed one of my alts ;D i remember you as i also red tagged you. So, nope, this is not a missunderstanding, everything is right :)
For your information, one of most basic rules when we hold Redding: Only TSAR members are to attack anyone in downtown area. So you can see that you clearly broke this, and then you wonder why you got shot ;D
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Hmm... I am not playing right now, but this indeed looks wrong. I am dissipointed myself to hear this i must say.
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Personnally, i do play one hour per months these days, so i won't comment recent events.
But from my perspective, WWP wasn't about this gang or this one, but has a whole gathering people from various gangs, without a gang or individual from gangs that maybe opposed to the founders of the faction. There were TTTLA, Tsar, Hawks, VSB, C88, and even some Rogues and CS, and alt from ennemies factions. The city was ruled by its government, not by TTTLA or Tsar. It wasn't always perfect. Some guys were killed without a reason, some other were only looting the chest, some alt were only there to spy, others mistood their laws and that of the city, but there was always care of the city, its citizens, its activity, its RP. It was an active town. Gangs issues are off topic, concerning that period.
I know it doesn't change the other stuff, but i still don't get why this thread is named Redding and only deals with timezones...
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Yes of course it was something meaningful.
As for now, various groups struggle to control Redding to achieve the same goal. Just because they want to be the gang behind it.
But nevermind that, same people who allowed some system to happen were the reason of it's undoing, because of them being selfish scumbags.
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I entered Rediing few times near 3 weeks ago with my caravan cart and friends, that protected it. As you understand it was roleplay action. I was wery surprised......but we was NOT killed..... At first time we find 2 players, that follow us in our trip, find goods to trade and good words....Second time we hear the words: "If we see you again here you will be dead! Go avay and never return!". But not matter, noone hurt us. Maybe it was a mistake... So I was impressed and it was wery nice to see, that roleplay in Redding alive!
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I entered Rediing few times near 3 weeks ago with my caravan cart and friends, that protected it. As you understand it was roleplay action. I was wery surprised......but we was NOT killed..... At first time we find 2 players, that follow us in our trip, find goods to trade and good words....Second time we hear the words: "If we see you again here you will be dead! Go avay and never return!". But not matter, noone hurt us. Maybe it was a mistake... So I was impressed and it was wery nice to see, that roleplay in Redding alive!
It's actually quite dead now, besides basic pvp. 3 weeks ago sarmatians had it, and that's why you weren't killed, but now... I wouldn't bet on it.
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Yes of course it was something meaningful.
As for now, various groups struggle to control Redding to achieve the same goal. Just because they want to be the gang behind it.
But nevermind that, same people who allowed some system to happen were the reason of it's undoing, because of them being selfish scumbags.
Not the same goal ;P Correct me if i am wrong but only we had any plans to make Redding into city before wipe, all others are just there for PVP ;) Anyways, see you ingame in 1-2 weeks :) (Goddamn i hope wipe will be there then)
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Militia can be kill by any gang,I will say with the help of the Hawk, the C88, the Lawyer and VSB. But somewhere they forgot about that.
And I completely agree about the BHH, personally it is they perseverance I appreciate the must.
Yes lawyers and lawyer allies help so much when they kill all militia, kill bluesuits and others in town, take it, then camp it. So much help, how dare we not show our appreciation, we should be flogged to death. ::)
I really enjoy people talking about things they have no info about. Can you gather more wisdom and think a bit before you post anything, Mich?
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I really enjoy people talking about things they have no info about. Can you gather more wisdom and think a bit before you post anything, Mich?
Michaelh139 wouldn't be Michaelh139 if he was talking reasonably and wisely about things he knew about.
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Necrophiliacs detected.
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Sorry mich, didnt took a look at yours age before i posted.
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guys stop the trolling of this topic. if your going to say smoething make sure it has meaning not to just be derp herp mich is 15 so he knows nothing and is a tard. STAY ON TOPIC.
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Sorry mich, didnt took a look at yours age before i posted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia
Dumbass. You revived a month old dead thread.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia
Dumbass. You revived a month old dead thread.
So much agressivity... I assume he meant "yours post age" not "your age"...
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So much agressivity... I assume he meant "yours post age" not "your age"...
yes calling someone dumbass is so aggressive ::)
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Of course it's not nice.
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Of course it's not nice.
Of course.
But such an action was not warranted, considering several factors beforehand...