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Title: Idiocy?
Post by: lavions on July 26, 2011, 10:48:05 pm
Hi, I have been collecting all day things, I found many of weapons when there was yakuza fights , agaist caravans etd..., then I went to merchant , wanted to trade it for some chips, and some asshole will kill me with minigun in one shot? What hell is with this game??? System here is horible, it needs alot of work. So my rating for it 1/10 as I saw today.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Michaelh139 on July 26, 2011, 10:50:56 pm
Just because you died once you want to make the game a bad rating?  Nevermind the fact nobody cares, is borderline idiocy in itself.

But since you're obviously new I will give you a break.

This game, is harsh.
The people in this game, are harsh.
The wasteland...  is fucking harsh.

Get used to it.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: RavenousRat on July 26, 2011, 10:55:11 pm
Get minigun too, find him and kill him.
Also don't carry with you all items.

System here is horible
What else do you want?
A guy finding you in encouner. He sees some bluesuiter/leather jacketer/whatever, with HP enough on 1 burst.
He bursts you.
You're dead.
What's wrong with this system?
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: OskaRus on July 26, 2011, 11:04:28 pm
But imagine the time when youll grab minigun and rape noobs. I worked hard for it enjoyed it for some time and then get bored of having everything and quit.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Kanly on July 26, 2011, 11:06:24 pm
Dont believe when people say that this game is harsh, life can be harsh, this game is easy,
it is a safe haven after a hard day of work .

You have collected many items without efforts (never spend to much time for this, relax) ,
but you should have know that killing rookie near the trader is a recurring gag...

If you have read the wiki or the forum you would have soon understand how you should move.

And I hope you dont complain because one can be killed from a burst of minigun...
This is not Vampire the Fallout, you should not think your char as a guy that cannot be killed by normal bullets.

Have a nice day

Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Wipe on July 26, 2011, 11:18:50 pm
> Judging whole game cos of one minigunner

Hello there, lavions!
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: lavions on July 26, 2011, 11:34:18 pm
Hi, I know this game isnt harsh but many peoples in this game are , like those pickpockers and etc.., and also why all npc/creatures atack me in combat and not other peoples/monsters, everytime when they see me , they go on me.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Lizard on July 26, 2011, 11:37:47 pm
Hi, I know this game isnt harsh but many peoples in this game are , like those pickpockers and etc.., and also why all npc/creatures atack me in combat and not other peoples/monsters, everytime when they see me , they go on me.

That depends on their PE and your Outdoor, everything else is their priority target, unless they have other monsters in encounter. If you have low Outdoor, you'll spawn closer to them and the monsters have always quite a high PE. And raiders just love blueshirts.
For the harshness, you'll get used to it. Just get a tent.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: lavions on July 26, 2011, 11:39:45 pm
And what about that scrap metal? Everytime I see it somewhere I cant take it. Do I need something for it?
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Senocular on July 27, 2011, 12:19:48 am
And what about that scrap metal? Everytime I see it somewhere I cant take it. Do I need something for it?
What does it say when you try to take it? You probably miss some dumb skill requirement. Outdoorsman or science I think.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: lavions on July 27, 2011, 12:33:37 am
Mate , Reo, where we will meet? :D
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: jonny rust on July 27, 2011, 07:09:16 am
And what about that scrap metal? Everytime I see it somewhere I cant take it. Do I need something for it?

I guess your talking about junk. The only reason you shouldn't be able to pick it up is either that you are already carrying too much or your gathering needs to cool down (check bottom right hand of screen).

As for getting bursted, I imagine this happened in New Reno since you mentioned Yakuza right?

If you ever played F1 or 2 then you would know that Reno is ruled only by the gangs inhabiting it which makes it a dangerous place and even more dangerous in Fonline. Since you are new to the game I recommend you relocate to one of the following places as they are guarded and have at least some law;

The Hub (lots merchants and wild brahmin in the area)
Adytum (very good beginner quests here)
Junktown (very quiet place)
Vault City (lots of doctors here, but no good stores if you are not a citizen)
NCR (this is the least safe, and there are many thieves)

Aside from San Fran all other towns are unprotected and San Fran is a very rough neighborhood if you are not within city confines so I wouldn't recommend it until you are a higher level. 
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Big Gun Thug on July 27, 2011, 11:13:53 am
This game, is harsh.
The people in this game, are harsh.
The wasteland...  is fucking harsh.

Get used to it.

I think there shoud be some kind of a level limit in which u could not get killed by high level players. Would help noobs a lot, and would make them keep playing. This way lots of people lose their will because it's, like u said, harsh :D
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Jotisz on July 27, 2011, 12:01:48 pm
Personally I don't think giving a limit and make players non killable is good. If it would be the case a lot of people would make lvl 1 chars just to go in everyplace and troll since nobody can harm them now or go in to town during tc and take everything or factions would make lvl 1 scout alts to check out the cities.
Personally I think the solution would be having a death counter for each char... but its not the suggestion thread.
By the way the game is quite easy if someone reads the wiki and played fallout 1 and 2 then its not hard still getting the first levels is troublesome but possible there are quests that give enough (combined) xp to reach lvl 3 without killing a single thing also outdoorsman helps too.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Marko69 on July 27, 2011, 12:02:49 pm
lavions, sincerely as one wastelander to another. You have just started out. There's much for you to learn. People come everyday in this game saying I got pk'ed I lost my stuff and so on. It happens when you are new. It's just a game. The guy who pk'ed you has nothing else or better to do. Find him when you get stronger and he'll be dead one day instead of you. It's not a bad idea to keep a list with names of all who killed you. But I'll tell you not to expect from other people to respect the list you make, because everyone cares about themselves. May not be so, but it's how I see it. Joining a gang or some town-control project might help you out. Chose carefully what you do.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: falloutdude on July 27, 2011, 06:07:43 pm
stay out of northern towns (vault city is allright most of time) stay away from ncr(theifs,bombers,assholes, and scum of like that) stick down to hub and jt ( if in faction dont go in jt at night or they will kill you) boneyard is easy money with random pkers in area but usally not many. go to boneyard get scrap metel from ground make bb's sell to gunrunners for guns and such (armor,caps when they have them) keep all things in tent dont walk around with them because people will kill you for it. only take things from tent when you are rdy to trade.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Overdose on July 28, 2011, 01:06:18 pm
Hi, I have been collecting all day things, I found many of weapons when there was yakuza fights , agaist caravans etd..., then I went to merchant , wanted to trade it for some chips, and some asshole will kill me with minigun in one shot? What hell is with this game??? System here is horible, it needs alot of work. So my rating for it 1/10 as I saw today.
Pfft. You are an anti coco jumboist.
System is horrible? How so because you decided to trade in an Unguarded town??
Go down to the hub or maybe NCR if you're feeling lucky and shovel shit there.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Senrain on July 28, 2011, 05:49:33 pm
You should really play a different game if you don't like dying. Because without experience, you are going to die a lot.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: archigilis on July 28, 2011, 08:41:15 pm
Just because you died once you want to make the game a bad rating?  Nevermind the fact nobody cares, is borderline idiocy in itself.

But since you're obviously new I will give you a break.

This game, is harsh.
The people in this game, are harsh.
The wasteland...  is fucking harsh.

Get used to it.

this correct, absolutly correct, a prime description of this game
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Jotisz on July 29, 2011, 08:20:27 am
The game isn't harsh try to play Fallout with hardest settings and saving only when you exit the game thats way harsher since if you die you really die there no respawn. Also in Fonline you can gather an arsenal of items when did the Vault Dweller or the Chosen One had so many gear to use?
Fonline isn't as harsh as they say it, though starting out is a bit hard but hey both the Vault Dweller and the Chosen One started his journey the hard way though the Vault Dweller had a pistol while poor Chosen One need to use a spear to clear the Temple of Trials...
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Perteks on July 29, 2011, 02:32:38 pm
The game isn't harsh try to play Fallout with hardest settings and saving only when you exit the game thats way harsher since if you die you really die there no respawn. Also in Fonline you can gather an arsenal of items when did the Vault Dweller or the Chosen One had so many gear to use?
Fonline isn't as harsh as they say it, though starting out is a bit hard but hey both the Vault Dweller and the Chosen One started his journey the hard way though the Vault Dweller had a pistol while poor Chosen One need to use a spear to clear the Temple of Trials...

Sorry dude but normal fallout is tragically ease, only when u play first time can be hard
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: jonny rust on July 30, 2011, 01:41:10 am
Sorry dude but normal fallout is tragically ease, only when u play first time can be hard
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same with this game. We all know it's only difficult for new comers who don't know the ropes yet, the rest of us level a char to 21 within a day or two if we want.

'waste is harsh' is something people usually say when they wan't to shut someone else up about dying or a suggestion they don't like.

anyway, looks like Lavions didn't rage quit after all and I'd say this discussion is pretty much at an end.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: LagMaster on July 30, 2011, 02:41:03 pm
see what happens when i start playing Warcraft 3

newbis get killed instead of robbing my base cuz i add them
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Handyman on July 30, 2011, 06:46:14 pm
well i'm leveling ANOTHER solo char and so far lvl 6 and still no death !

My highest record was lvl 9 and died ;(( by lag hahah ;P
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: jonny rust on July 30, 2011, 07:47:28 pm
well i'm leveling ANOTHER solo char and so far lvl 6 and still no death !

My highest record was lvl 9 and died ;(( by lag hahah ;P

do you trash a char once he dies? if so, thats awesome
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: LagMaster on July 30, 2011, 08:34:35 pm
well i'm leveling ANOTHER solo char and so far lvl 6 and still no death !

My highest record was lvl 9 and died ;(( by lag hahah ;P
1. i am not a PK
2. i don't play FO
3. toughf luck, sorry
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: Reginmund on July 31, 2011, 01:15:24 pm
do you trash a char once he dies? if so, thats awesome

sounds like diablo 2 hardcore mode.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: jonny rust on August 01, 2011, 04:32:18 am
sounds like diablo 2 hardcore mode.

you should check out a game called 'the omega syndrome'. It also happens to be fallout inspired.
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: EvilKhan_BG on August 01, 2011, 11:34:23 am
Personally I think its a nice thing because if an apocalypse happens, people wuld kill eachother, people wuld be hungry and wuld result to canibalism ! and people killing eachother just for a cup of water ! I just got killed too  ::) but the game has an awsome athmosphere like "Ur not strong ? THEN GTFO THE MAIN ROAD OR SOMEONE WILL SHOOT U, YOU WEAKLING !" I, as a newbie hide around the city and don't use main roads a lot because its full of cuttrhoats and random killers who wanna take ur caps (if IRL apocalypse happens they wuld use them for water and food perhaps !) ... I hope no apocalypse happens, most people wuld be sick of death... FOR LIFE !
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: jonny rust on August 02, 2011, 05:36:10 pm
Personally I think its a nice thing because if an apocalypse happens, people wuld kill eachother, people wuld be hungry and wuld result to canibalism ! and people killing eachother just for a cup of water ! I just got killed too  ::) but the game has an awsome athmosphere like "Ur not strong ? THEN GTFO THE MAIN ROAD OR SOMEONE WILL SHOOT U, YOU WEAKLING !" I, as a newbie hide around the city and don't use main roads a lot because its full of cuttrhoats and random killers who wanna take ur caps (if IRL apocalypse happens they wuld use them for water and food perhaps !) ... I hope no apocalypse happens, most people wuld be sick of death... FOR LIFE !

If your weak, never take the direct rout between the hub and junk town... go the long way
Title: Re: Idiocy?
Post by: EvilKhan_BG on August 03, 2011, 01:20:40 pm
If your weak, never take the direct rout between the hub and junk town... go the long way

Sadly I found that out the hard way.