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Title: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Sachaztan on July 14, 2011, 01:01:20 am
There's a difference between "I bring my hired guns to protect me while I'm going to the town" and "lol, let's gridcamp the shit ouf ot that map because we're bored. xD" The latter is a bannable offense, the former not.

A group calling themselves "section 8" are griefing the Hub right now.

First they camped with what looked like 20-30 mercs at the spawn killing the guards and anyone that entered.

When I came back all the mercs were dead but now they were killing the guards and suicide bombing everyone else.

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3299/section8griefing.jpg)
All the players names except one can be seen here. The missin is Szczur

*edit* they're now at Junktown, haven't done anything yet tho.

*edit* I tried to contact a GM ingame but it said no one was online.

*edit* Forgot to mention that Dominus Kra (zuhardu) is one of them
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: aForcefulThrust on July 14, 2011, 01:14:04 am
Are you an idiot? I don't see any mercs.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: zuhardu on July 14, 2011, 01:15:25 am
We didn't cross any in game rules. We killed players and guards killed us, gm's can't help you. And where is my character???
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Sachaztan on July 14, 2011, 01:16:10 am
Are you an idiot? I don't see any mercs.


"First they camped with what looked like 20-30 mercs at the spawn killing the guards and anyone that entered.

When I came back all the mercs were dead but now they were killing the guards and suicide bombing everyone else."
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Crovax on July 14, 2011, 01:18:08 am
what you call mercs were obviously hub's reinforcment script kicking in like it's supposed to when guards die.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Sachaztan on July 14, 2011, 01:18:55 am
We didn't cross any in game rules. We killed players and guards killed us, gm's can't help you. And where is my character???

That's for GM's to decide. But don't worry, they need to see it for themselves so If you don't do that again there's no negative consequences of this event.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: zuhardu on July 14, 2011, 01:23:11 am
*edit* Forgot to mention that zuhardu is one of them

Dominus Kra is char's name... Don't get us banned, forgive us, please. We promise we will never do that again until tomorow!
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Sachaztan on July 14, 2011, 01:25:07 am
Dominus Kra is char's name... Don't get us banned, forgive us, please. We promise we will never do that again until tomorow!

I think we both know this post has 0% possibility of getting you banned ^^.

What it can do however is inform a overzealous gm with a bad day and lots of spare time.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: aForcefulThrust on July 14, 2011, 01:26:37 am
100% safe places will never happen in the game.

Wasteland is harsh. Nasty gang of players were in town when you came in. Fear them!
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Sachaztan on July 14, 2011, 01:30:05 am
Wasteland is harsh. Nasty gang of players were in town when you came in. Fear them!

I love the thread where you first post this

See? Someone took out the mutants! Thats pretty badass dude... good job for showing everyone that it can be done!

Using mercs is NOT an abuse, and should NOT be bannable. There use to be a bug that made players crash on load with mercs, this is no longer the case!  So let me get this straight.... You think bringing mercs to new reno on kill is an abuse!?!? Exactly what is it abusing?

I assumed you were a noob, because you got on here and started crying like one. You don't see the guy that lost his mutants crying on here, and screaming abuse, do you? Take it like a man!

And then Surf posts this

There's a difference between "I bring my hired guns to protect me while I'm going to the town" and "lol, let's gridcamp the shit ouf ot that map because we're bored. xD" The latter is a bannable offense, the former not.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: zuhardu on July 14, 2011, 01:33:34 am
Most of the players already know S8, gm's too. We are known for bringing dark days over new players but we only do that for toughing your characters. We are here to make you better than you are, that is our only goal.

PS: like the guys said, those weren't mercs, were HUB's reinforcements, and Surf refered to ungarded towns or mines, you can't bring mercs on auto-kill in Hub's main entrance.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Sachaztan on July 14, 2011, 01:38:32 am
Most of the players already know S8, gm's too. We are known for bringing dark days over new players but we only do that for toughing your characters. We are here to make you better than you are, that is our only goal.

PS: like the guys said, those weren't mercs, were HUB's reinforcements, and Surf refered to ungarded towns or mines, you can't bring mercs on auto-kill in Hub's main entrance.

So killing players in unguarded town as soon as they appear isn't ok, but doing it in guarded is fine?

Yeah that makes sense.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Tomowolf on July 14, 2011, 01:44:53 am
Iam not defending these guy,s - but they are right.
These times are about beta-tests and we all need to do some "not clear" job, and need to find ALL bugs.
Anyway if they are killing poor bluenewbies, they do it for lulz  - and also they will find new bugs.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Swinglinered on July 14, 2011, 04:20:41 am
Were you auto-killed during transition or after?

There is a difference.

Nothing wrong with griefing guarded towns- if you can beat the guards its all part of the game.

Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Vodnik on July 14, 2011, 07:50:00 am
Good for you guys. Take any town you can, but one day, I'll come after you... hah!

I think... not only there are not any 100% safe places in game, but i am really against creating that kind of places (in game mechanics) ever.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: KILL N DIE on July 14, 2011, 11:44:39 am
Most of the players already know S8, gm's too. We are known for bringing dark days over new players but we only do that for toughing your characters. We are here to make you better than you are, that is our only goal.

PS: like the guys said, those weren't mercs, were HUB's reinforcements, and Surf refered to ungarded towns or mines, you can't bring mercs on auto-kill in Hub's main entrance.
I think he is right.
everytime when i was fightin with S8 and i loose,i maked better alts and then i punished my self)
also about mercs,yeah imeet S8 few times with mercs but one day i told my self stop,and i bought some mercs too,so i punished my self again)
Guys its not only about mercs...Zuhardu is right,just enjoy the game and be smart,then u can win)
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Tomowolf on July 14, 2011, 12:12:52 pm
One more thing to add: If someone kills you - take your weapon and armor then kill him back, if you can't, you are just screaming/whining n00b.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Floodnik on July 14, 2011, 12:47:55 pm
but we only do that for toughing your characters. We are here to make you better than you are, that is our only goal.
Hehehe that is funny what you're saying, it's either a joke or a lie, you don't have to say that :P Everyone knows you're doing that only for amusement. I'm with you. Although my 21lvl characters sometimes get their ass kicked by you too(you said it was to tough newbs?)  ;)
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: zuhardu on July 14, 2011, 01:09:01 pm
Hehehe that is funny what you're saying, it's either a joke or a lie, you don't have to say that :P Everyone knows you're doing that only for amusement. I'm with you. Although my 21lvl characters sometimes get their ass kicked by you too(you said it was to tough newbs?)  ;)

Well, we are aiming for the blues but if I meet a heavy geared guy and i can't run, I try to fight him it's my only choice. That's why i use 18 AP builds in TB, for running, I cannot live with myself if I loose a battle, so I run. Deep inside my soul I am just scared noob. Not so deep, I'm still a scared noob.

Also, my statement that we ONLY do that for toughing newbs was a bit exagerated...  Of course we kill players for amusament but think about it: we have our fun, they learn to play better so they can take their revenge, so we all win.
Title: Re: Griefing in the Hub with mercs
Post by: Sachaztan on July 14, 2011, 08:45:45 pm
Were you auto-killed during transition or after?

There is a difference.

Nothing wrong with griefing guarded towns- if you can beat the guards its all part of the game.

The first time I entered I got killed so fast I had no idea what happened, so as someone else stated I might have misinterpreted guard reinforcements for mercs.

The other times I died when I ran around with no gear to redmark them all so that's pretty /care :P