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Title: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Gazzz on June 20, 2011, 02:39:00 pm
Never did this one, friends says its funny)
6 9 4 1 10 10 1 small frame, skilled
buffout+jet+cola+cigs
[4]awarness
[8]educated
[12]silent running
[16]BRoF
[20]ghost
and the final, and i guess the main question is :
190 BG
285 sneak ?
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: 0m3n on June 20, 2011, 04:48:31 pm
Never did this one, friends says its funny)
6 9 4 1 10 10 1 small frame, skilled
buffout+jet+cola+cigs
[4]awarness [ take slient running on 6 ]
[8]educated [sharpshooter on 9 ]
[12]silent running [min 1 LG on 12 lvl 149hp final ]
[16]BRoF
[20]ghost
and the final, and i guess the main question is :
190 BG                150% should be enough with 12 pe
285 sneak ?          296% sneak is enough  for lsw drugs 1 super stimpack and some ammo ~100
~90 doctor or outdoorsman .

One advice don't wear combat leather jacket , with it you will be seen from one hex more.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Trias on June 20, 2011, 06:45:36 pm
Never did this one, friends says its funny)
6 9 4 1 10 10 1 small frame, skilled
buffout+jet+cola+cigs
[4]awarness
[8]educated
[12]silent running
[16]BRoF
[20]ghost
and the final, and i guess the main question is :
190 BG
285 sneak ?

I would either go with 300 sneak plus Ghost to make it 330 or take sneak down to 270 which will be 300 with Ghost.

Someone will be able to tell you better than I but I don't think the difference between 300 and 330 is really worth the invested skill points which means you wouldn't have to take skilled.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Gazzz on June 20, 2011, 08:11:23 pm
270 wouldn't be enough (~10kg LSW + 2 kg stuff) that's why i dicided to take 285%
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Kelin on June 20, 2011, 08:29:01 pm
btw how many hp?
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: LagMaster on June 22, 2011, 03:42:34 pm
btw how many hp?
no matter, you can't hit what you can't see
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: 0m3n on June 22, 2011, 07:31:43 pm
no matter, you can't hit what you can't see

Are we playing the same game Lag? HP always matters.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: smoothjesus on June 23, 2011, 07:29:18 am
If you take 'thief' at level 20 instead of 'educated' at level 8 you'll end up with a few extra skill points
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Gazzz on June 23, 2011, 08:01:00 pm
If you take 'thief' at level 20 instead of 'educated' at level 8 you'll end up with a few extra skill points
hmmm ... very nice suggest, i didn't thought about it )
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: 0m3n on June 23, 2011, 10:41:33 pm
"Thief" is a waste of perk unless you take it when you already have 200 sneak.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Michaelh139 on June 23, 2011, 11:07:30 pm
I never understand why it has to be LSW.

Avenger at 1 hex -20% from 6 str has no effect at all and is far more deadly.

one clip in and one extra clip on the side.

can anyone explain?  I've never made my own so I am going off of assumptions from current data.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Gazzz on June 24, 2011, 01:07:20 am
Michael, its very simple - minigun needs BRDx2 to deal its crazy damage. Also it depends on what type of bullets you use(you dany have free carry weight). You dont have free perks to have brd x 2 (damage from 1 hex from LSW and minigun is almost the same) so the choice is simple.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Gazzz on June 24, 2011, 01:09:37 am
"Thief" is a waste of perk unless you take it when you already have 200 sneak.
he means to take a thief perk when you're 20 and alredy have 285 sneak skill. It's very good choise because its better than educated on lvl 8, i've alredy calculated this
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: 0m3n on June 24, 2011, 08:41:14 am
@Gazzz
You don't have to take educated or thief to make a good sneaker , 10 int & skilled is enough.
6 9 4 1 10 10 1 small frame skilled
6 silent running 8 ghost 12 life giver 16brof 20 sharpshooter
296% sneak
150% bg

Educated or thief is just a waste of perk.

@Michaelh
Did you ever played lsw sneaker ? This character isn't to 1hex attack everyone he can , it isn't easy to go one hex to sniper .With lsw you can kill some one from distance , with avenger you can't.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Gazzz on June 24, 2011, 04:22:59 pm
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@Gazzz
6 silent running 8 ghost 12 life giver 16brof 20 sharpshooter
6 silent running  :-\ it's impossible with skilled. 4 8 12 16 20 - you can take perks only on this lvls, and you cant take silent running on 4 lvl. Also i agree with LAg MAster about HP.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: 0m3n on June 24, 2011, 04:57:04 pm
6 silent running  :-\ it's impossible with skilled. 4 8 12 16 20 - you can take perks only on this lvls, and you cant take silent running on 4 lvl.

You can take silent running only with skilled.With skilled you got perks on 4,8,12,16 and 20 lvl. So you wait for 6 lvl and take silent running I don't see the problem.

If you think you can be a good sneaker with less  then 100 hp ... create such build and lvl it up to 21. Then you will see how fail it is. Having hp is always better then not having it.

Make this one and you will be happy.
(http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/7783/beztytuuwn.jpg)
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Gazzz on June 24, 2011, 06:10:39 pm
 ::)  nice, good advise to take SR on 6 lvl, thx.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: T-888 on June 24, 2011, 06:11:45 pm
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3953/5drugsneakbitch.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/5drugsneakbitch.jpg/)

My drug jacked up " sneak bitch " not essentially very good against other sneakers because of 9 PE but it is sort of enough. Uses 5 drugs psycho , jet , nuka , cigs , buffout RL/LSW.

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6436/4drugsneakbitch.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/228/4drugsneakbitch.jpg/)

Now this is a less drug jacked up build which uses 4 drugs - buffout , nuka , cigs , jet. Uses only LSW( if you plan to use lsw only this build is much better than the above) , has more health than the build above aswell more perception + %tohit + sight range + better sneaker detection but at the cost you don't use RL(%tohit sucks balls) and don't have ghost(not a mandatory perk good bonus but only a situational perk). Oh yeah you take silent running level 6 and sharpshooter level 9.

btw i love drug jacked up builds

lol at omens build :D outdoorsman no doc ;D chosen soldier...... riiiight , won't even comment the other builds.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: 0m3n on June 24, 2011, 10:06:16 pm
It was made loooooong time ago for tests I got 3 other sneakers already.
And without ghost you are seen from 2 hexes more then with it.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: T-888 on June 25, 2011, 12:10:56 am
If you trade ghost for sharpshooter you see 6 hexes farther and you see sneakers most probably more than 2 hexes. Every time you play in daylight(ingame) the perk ghost is useless.
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Gazzz on June 25, 2011, 12:15:35 am
Every time you play in daylight(ingame) the perk ghost is useless.
i thought it always gives you + 30 to sneak, not only in daylight
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: Michaelh139 on June 25, 2011, 12:16:21 am
If you trade ghost for sharpshooter you see 6 hexes farther and you see sneakers most probably more than 2 hexes. Every time you play in daylight(ingame) the perk is useless.
Daytime nighttime mechanics dont work...  so it always works
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: T-888 on June 25, 2011, 12:32:04 am
Huh well this has slipped out of my mind :)
Title: Re: LSW sneaker build
Post by: avv on June 27, 2011, 12:08:20 pm
Let's just say that any 2x burster with over 300 sneak, over 100 health and 12 PE is good. Rest is up to your playing skills and luck.