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Title: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Florek on February 07, 2010, 06:22:42 pm
Hello!

I suggest make Gatling more useful weapon - good for PvP. Now this is only machine to waste MFC, but if give Penetrate or other DR reduction perk, this weapon can be really useful!

I suggest give Gatling 50% bonus to ignore armor DR vs. laser (DR: -50% - changes MFC stat to AP ammo).
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Szef on February 07, 2010, 06:42:11 pm
The idea of making gatling useful is good.
But laser.. piercing? Hmm.. It needs a solid retought.. for the realism!
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 07, 2010, 07:01:56 pm
Yeah, theres a gatling laser rotting in my tent just because its a waste of MFCs. It uses 10 MFCs per shot and deals damage x. With that same ammo i can shoot 10 times with laser rifle (or even plasma - even better) and deal 5x-6x damage. Gatling laser pretty much aint worth its name right now.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Frozen Mind on February 07, 2010, 07:05:09 pm
Now it's Gatling laser pointer.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: vedaras on February 07, 2010, 07:08:15 pm
make mm pistol more useful, add 1000 dmg and something more, you dont want the gun you dont use it - simple :>
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Raegann on February 08, 2010, 04:28:24 am
make mm pistol more useful, add 1000 dmg and something more, you dont want the gun you dont use it - simple :>

Which one pistol you mean? :p It's different when speaking about low-end 10 mm for noobs, which experienced players disassemble just for getting the few additional xp and something that should be as top-tier as Gatling laser. With 10 shots of Laser rifle you get like 10*(25-50) dmg with 10 very nice chances of making few criticals through aimed shots or 10*x% of criticals when not aimed. However gatling laser is 10*(20-40), range is 5 less and you will have such "bullet spread" (if same as normal bullets..), that you will do hardly some serious damage on 40 range (no need to say you must be very lucky, to do a crit on the single burst). Not mentioning, that laser "minigun" and normal minigun should have different dynamics - laser gun won't probably shake your hand all over when shooting, it won't actually "kick" you even as much as a normal pistol, let alone something "firing 5mm ammunition at over 60,000 RPM", which should make your hand "techno-dance like insane" (sorry for the terminology, I don't know the right terms of ballistics in English).
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Misiolap on February 08, 2010, 10:57:25 am
I think there shouldn't be any burst spread for Gatling Laser since there is no recoil when shooting it.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Solar on February 08, 2010, 01:29:57 pm
It shouldn't really be available, only is because of these damn encounters, so use it at your own risk.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Florek on February 08, 2010, 04:00:11 pm
It shouldn't really be available, only is because of these damn encounters, so use it at your own risk.
I think in game should be some rare and elite weapons like Gatling Laser, Gauss Pistol or Vindicator Minigun (but REALLY rare).

No burst spread is good idea, with 8/10 laser bullets in aim maybe it can do something!
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: gordulan on February 08, 2010, 04:11:14 pm
well, a gauss smg would be far more welcome from my end....
and maybe a small laser assault rifle (sec usage)
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Giemz on February 08, 2010, 04:27:30 pm
If it would be pumped up it would be much more rare, as encounters with gatling laser wielders will be more deadly. And remember that rotating barrels add to the difficulty of wielding.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Misiolap on February 08, 2010, 06:32:47 pm
I don't think barrels in Gatling Laser rotate, since there is no bullet chamber, and all laser chambers have to be connected to power source by wires.
Design with rotating barrels would require to use contact power connectors, which are less reliable, and some electric engine - that would make gun design much more complicated without a reason.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Giemz on February 09, 2010, 01:05:38 am
No they don't have to. They may just rotate to move through a pumping laser flow and excite and shoot. There are means of wireless energy transport in 2010. They will be much better ones in 2070 :)
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: NTR on February 09, 2010, 01:21:00 am
make mm pistol more useful, add 1000 dmg and something more, you dont want the gun you dont use it - simple :>

Do you ever read what you write?

Gatling Laser is now completely useless weapon, doing very little damage comapring to the amount of expensive ammo it's consuming.
Every weapon should have some pros (for example 10mm pistol is cheap and easy to craft, but it does almost no damage)
Does Gatling have any pros except cool sound?
 
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Roachor on February 09, 2010, 01:24:51 am
Well it is a pretty retarded concept for a weapon. Multiple barrels for what exactly? Greater inaccuracy?
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: NTR on February 09, 2010, 02:17:13 am
Quote
Well it is a pretty retarded concept for a weapon. Multiple barrels for what exactly? Greater inaccuracy?
It's just a game, many ideas here are far from reality.
Multiple barrels are for slower overheating.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Giemz on February 09, 2010, 02:37:00 am
Having a single place of shooting makes recoil easier to compensate too. Besides, it just looks awesome. And come on... Gatling Laser is just something gamers like. It sounds like its made of pure awesome.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Roachor on February 09, 2010, 07:21:44 am
I've never been one for wasting ammo.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Colombo on March 20, 2010, 02:57:18 pm
Well it is not so no-brainer.

Just look at laser pistol or rifle, it is firing single shot. Maybe it will overheat with more rapid fire, maybe capacitator need to recharge or it takes some time before pistol generate laser beam. Maybe technology ditn't solve these problems, so more engeneered solution had to show.
This is solved by rorating capacitators and laser-production chambers. When it is in -90 degrees before it can fire, gattling computer give order to laser-chamber to produce laser beam. When it is in firing position, on 0 degrees, the laser beam leave the laser chamber and fire at target. Then imediatly it start to recharge and after 270 degree it is ready to fire again.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: Drakonis on March 20, 2010, 03:59:34 pm
maybe make gatling so it uses Small Energy Cells instead of MFC. I know it's not how it's made in original fallout, but the weapon itself is far fary away from original fallout effectiveness...
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: RJ on March 20, 2010, 04:10:41 pm
It shouldn't really be available, only is because of these damn encounters, so use it at your own risk.

:/

Gatling should stay in game and should be more usefull. Weapons are getting nerfed and removed from game all the time - not cool.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: avv on March 20, 2010, 09:53:12 pm
:/

Gatling should stay in game and should be more usefull. Weapons are getting nerfed and removed from game all the time - not cool.


Yeah but what the hell, gatling laser is some uber technological wonder relic. There's plenty of guns that need a place in the game before we start balancing guns that have the reputation of wiping out small towns.
Title: Re: Make Gatling more useful
Post by: DarkRyder on March 21, 2010, 07:47:26 am
atm in the PvP there are small guns - snipers, energy-snipers and big gunners
it this this weapon would be useful, it would  add more different characters in game
big guns-energy