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Title: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: jonny rust on June 15, 2011, 01:54:19 am
I have never used bonus ranged damage but am considering it so what does +2 to Ranged Damage really mean here?
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Crazy on June 15, 2011, 01:55:20 am
It's like a +2 at the min and the max of your weapon damage.
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: jonny rust on June 15, 2011, 02:19:18 am
so it seems like a wasted perk unless this counts for each bullet in a burst...
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Crazy on June 15, 2011, 02:22:28 am
so it seems like a wasted perk unless this counts for each bullet in a burst...

Its does count for each bullet... Like stated in my previous pôst, +2 at min and max weapon damage, same for a DKS and an avenger, though it's obviously more usefull for avenger.
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: LagMaster on June 15, 2011, 07:12:14 pm
Johhny Rust, you know that this perks(LG too) are must haves for the BGner builds
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: SEGA_RUS on June 15, 2011, 07:39:15 pm
not nessesary to BG with LSW  ;D
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: jonny rust on June 15, 2011, 09:14:34 pm
I never really make big gunners...
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: jonny rust on June 15, 2011, 09:30:35 pm
But in summation its most beneficial to bursters using weapons with large quantity bursts (lots'o'bullets per burst) right?
SG and BG alike
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Chrupek on June 15, 2011, 09:37:08 pm
that this perk are must haves for the BGner builds

Well... not:]

Great perk for 3 burst SGers
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Rascal on June 15, 2011, 10:03:44 pm
brd are very usefull for lsw too, it does higher dmg that avanger eitherway
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Solar on June 15, 2011, 10:07:39 pm
brd are very usefull for lsw too, it does higher dmg that avanger eitherway

False
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Perteks on June 15, 2011, 10:47:01 pm
Solar we dont talk about vs bluesuit :P
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Solar on June 15, 2011, 11:32:25 pm
I can't be bothered going through it again, use the search function to see where I have told you all this before.
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: SEGA_RUS on June 16, 2011, 12:07:17 am
differense in close with 2 brd vs 0 brd is 24 dmg on bluesut without toughness  ;D
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: RavenousRat on June 16, 2011, 12:50:41 am
Well, LSW without BRDs vs BA with x2 Toughness:
Base average damage: (22+37)/2 = 29.5;
DR/DT = 40%/8+10%/4=50%/12; because of .223 ammo 30%/12; because of piercing ammo stuff 10%/4
Damage per bullet: 29.5*0.9-4 = 22.25.

LSW with x2 BRD:
29.5+4 = 31.5.
31.5*0.9-4 = 24.35.

x2 BRD increases damage on 9.44% for LSW against BA with x2 Toughness.

Now simple vs BA without any Toughnesses and without BRD:
DR/DT = 40%/8, because of .223 ammo 20%/8, because of piercing 13.33%/2.66, I won't round up or down.
Damage per bullet: 29.5*0.866-2.66 = 22.887.

With x2 BRD against simple BA:
31.5*0.866-2.66 = 24.619.

x2 BRD increases damage on 7.57% for LSW against BA without Toughnesses.
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Now the same thing for avenger mini.
Without BRD and with x2 Toughness: 8-11 -> 9.5 avg damage. *2/3 ammo adj = 6.33;
50/12 - 35/0 = 15/12 /3 = 5/4.
6.33*0.95-4 = 2.0135.

With x2 BRD: 13.5*2/3=9.
9*0.95-4=4.55.

+125.97% damage, it's on 125.97-9.44=116.53% more than for LSW or x13.34 times more.

Without Toughness:
40/8 -35 = 5/8 /3 = 1.66/2.66
Without BRD:
6.33*0.9834-2.66 = 3.565.
With x2 BRD:
9*0.9834-2.66 = 6.19.
73.6%, what on 73.6-7.57=66.03% more, or x9.72 times more.

Average: (13.34+9.72)/2 = 11.53.

This way, x2 BRD is in 11.53 times better for avenger than for LSW!
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Perteks on June 16, 2011, 12:54:12 am
But most times only first 10~ bullets hits :P not all 40
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: SEGA_RUS on June 16, 2011, 12:58:29 am
But most times only first 10~ bullets hits :P not all 40

if range > 1 then max bullets is 14
if range < 1 then max bullets is 40
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Perteks on June 16, 2011, 01:08:04 am
if range > 1 then max bullets is 14
if range < 1 then max bullets is 40
Yes and brd is better only for 1 hex bursting for avenger ;P rest lsw>avenger (maybe not counting critical damage avenger can score higher in that way)

In other words.
Without 2BRD dont even touch minigun type weapon, because your damage will do shit.

P.S. i though AP ammo decrease TD no DR ;p
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Gazzz on June 16, 2011, 07:07:44 am
BRD is "must have" for SG bursters, minigunners. That's all i think. LSW big-gunners, snipers, Rocket launcher, energy weapons (but dunno about gatling laser) doesn't need it at all
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Solar on June 16, 2011, 09:22:04 am
Avenger always does more damage than a lsw when fired by the same char.

With the wipe every big gun gets new values anyway.
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: SEGA_RUS on June 16, 2011, 11:52:01 am
(but dunno about gatling laser)
gatling it also LSW
Title: Re: Bonus ranged damage question
Post by: Perteks on June 16, 2011, 07:48:45 pm
Avenger always does more damage than a lsw when fired by the same char.

With the wipe every big gun gets new values anyway.
Strange i have just in other way :D