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Hi.
I want to host my own server VoIP but what should I choose? Mumble, TS or VT? How to host them?
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Mumble is best choice. For sound transmiting its better than VT or TS. Easy overlay, user friendly program.
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How can I host my own free server Mumble?
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Some websites like Virtual-CLan offer free mumble servers to their users. You have a lot of choice. And yes, as said Holo, Mumble is the best voip out there. :)
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How can I host my own free server Mumble?
http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Running_Murmur
And yes, Mumble is best, it has (I checked it some time ago) some less latence than TS3 (it's just almost not hearable, but still...)
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i personaly prefeer ventrilo, excellent for +50player ops.
i dont know if that happens in fo^^
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i personaly prefeer ventrilo, excellent for +50player ops.
i dont know if that happens in fo^^
Yes it happen sometimes. Even for many many many players is Mumble better.
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Have seen 30+ men in TeamSpeak , i don't know what your smoking but TS is better.
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Have seen 30+ men in TeamSpeak , i don't know what your smoking but TS is better.
Mumble is Open Source, supported by a lot of OS, has overlay, positional audio, ACL. Last time I checked, Teamspeak had not these.
Also, even if we only talk about sound, Mumble remains the better software.
it has (I checked it some time ago) some less latence than TS3 (it's just almost not hearable, but still...)
Even if TS3 was better, the fact that Mumble is a decent Open Source program should be enough to convince everyone to use it.
And yes, have already seen 100+ players in Mumble playing FOnline without any problem :P
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TS=shit VT=good Mumble=best choice.
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We were using TS2, then Ventrilo, then Mumble, now TS3. Has a lot of good options not present in mumble, sophisticated ACL, it also has overlay. Those who posted above are probably still in TS2 era. The choice is yours.
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We were using TS2, then Ventrilo, then Mumble, now TS3. Has a lot of good options not present in mumble, sophisticated ACL, it also has overlay. Those who posted above are probably still in TS2 era. The choice is yours.
Yes, TS3 maybe finally went to Mumble's level. Still it's not open source, and I do prefer to support open source projects when I have the choice.
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We were using TS2, then Ventrilo, then Mumble, now TS3. Has a lot of good options not present in mumble, sophisticated ACL, it also has overlay. Those who posted above are probably still in TS2 era. The choice is yours.
What "good options" have you in TS3? You mean file transfering? ::) And overlay (still as plugin and TS3 developers didn't created it, it's just plugin) still looks shitty and is not so functional.
Compare this:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2461/ts3overlay2010120219482.jpg
To this:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5904/fonline2010112214243557.png
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1121/fonline2010112214244109.png
(default overlay with changed position ;P and fully mumble overlay, which in you can do almost everything what you can do directly on client)
Users can be display in many ways... Even like on this movie (which is my config, best for wide screens :) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy-HNzUYPkA
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Before saying that something "is the best" or something "is shitty" you could at least try it yourself.
TS overlay plugin and every its part is fully configurable, I don't get what difference is between mumble and TS overlay, overlay is mainly used just to show who's speaking. Still, you can do more with TS overlay than just looking at it or switching it off.
TS can keep useful files and manage file transfers easily, you have much more options for ACL (mumble usergroup's management is poor when compared to that)
You can't even change volume for every mumble user while in TS you can do it via right-click (and the lack of this is very annoying in mumble as you don't need to tell someone to change his mic volume, you just do it yourself in your TS client if you can't hear someone)..
You can set a priority speaker for channel so commander will be always heard by everyone
Also I don't remember if there was anything in mumble like poke or mass poke in TS which is very handy (well, there were some "announcements" in mumble but too simple)
The choice is yours and I'm not going to argue more about it because bitching about who is using better or worse VoIP tool looks as childish as some boring TC talk...
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Thanks for comparing, more info about other VoIPs is still interesting to know :)
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Before saying that something "is the best" or something "is shitty" you could at least try it yourself.
TS overlay plugin and every its part is fully configurable, I don't get what difference is between mumble and TS overlay, overlay is mainly used just to show who's speaking. Still, you can do more with TS overlay than just looking at it or switching it off.
TS can keep useful files and manage file transfers easily, you have much more options for ACL (mumble usergroup's management is poor when compared to that)
Ah, sorry for saying that, I used just wrong words...
Could you show any example of more configured overlay in TS? (just wondering, google send me only defaults one)
About ACL, never get any problems with it, always what I wanted I setted
And about file transfer: I don't know what for is that function, because there is a lot of "dropbox" and other file hostings...
You can't even change volume for every mumble user while in TS you can do it via right-click (and the lack of this is very annoying in mumble as you don't need to tell someone to change his mic volume, you just do it yourself in your TS client if you can't hear someone)..
Yes, that is sometimes annoying, TS is better at this point
You can set a priority speaker for channel so commander will be always heard by everyone
Also I don't remember if there was anything in mumble like poke or mass poke in TS which is very handy (well, there were some "announcements" in mumble but too simple)
In mumble you have prority speaker too, which is get lower sound for other people if "commander" say something.
About poke, is this "muting" people or what? Because I never heard about this word ;P
If yes, in mumble you can mute people one by one only
The choice is yours and I'm not going to argue more about it because bitching about who is using better or worse VoIP tool looks as childish as some boring TC talk...
Ok..
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Steam voice chat because everything is free. Even keeping a group chat together 24/7 is free.
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I think TS 3 is on par with 1.2.3 Mumble nowadays. But I cant recommend ventrillo, its way too behind
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TS3 (with some useful plugis) for fonline purposes, beats all other communcators
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TS3 (with some useful plugis) for fonline purposes, beats all other communcators
I recognize it's good to avoid being scouted by ennemy teams. Mumble doesn't have such features. But well, if there weren't metagaming and were some fair play, this would not be a problem :P
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What "good options" have you in TS3? You mean file transfering? ::) And overlay (still as plugin and TS3 developers didn't created it, it's just plugin) still looks shitty and is not so functional.
Compare this:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2461/ts3overlay2010120219482.jpg
To this:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5904/fonline2010112214243557.png
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1121/fonline2010112214244109.png
(default overlay with changed position ;P and fully mumble overlay, which in you can do almost everything what you can do directly on client)
Users can be display in many ways... Even like on this movie (which is my config, best for wide screens :) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy-HNzUYPkA
You are making it wrong.
Compare this screen (http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1328/screen03062011112504.jpg) (TS3) and this (http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5904/fonline2010112214243557.png) (mumble).
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You are making it wrong.
Compare this screen (http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1328/screen03062011112504.jpg) (TS3) and this (http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5904/fonline2010112214243557.png) (mumble).
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1121/fonline2010112214244109.png
Eh? ;)
I recognize it's good to avoid being scouted by ennemy teams. Mumble doesn't have such features. But well, if there weren't metagaming and were some fair play, this would not be a problem :P
Mumble has this feature without any plugin, it's just one line in config:
allowping=False
TS3 (with some useful plugis) for fonline purposes, beats all other communcators
I can easly say like you for example: Ysakjsay is the best application because of fonline purposes...
You didn't write why....
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http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1121/fonline2010112214244109.png
Eh? ;)
Almost the same ;)
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/2575/screen03062011190232.jpg (http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/2575/screen03062011190232.jpg)
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I recognize it's good to avoid being scouted by ennemy teams. Mumble doesn't have such features. But well, if there weren't metagaming and were some fair play, this would not be a problem :P
Displaying info about connected people from outside of the server with password can be blocked in TS3.
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Mumble has this feature without any plugin, it's just one line in config:
Code:
allowping=False
Of course you can't do it if you buy virtual server from some hostings... Or you can, if they have AllowPing in their PHP/Django (ICE ;P) API (look for example at MAP - Mumb1e Admin Plugin)
Thanks you! But TS3 have also another feature: when you connect to a server, all channels are hidden: you don't see who are in (or their number) without entering.
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Because you need to use "Subscribe to all channels" option. Of course if you have proper permissions.
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Professionals use TeamSpeak 3.
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Professionals use TeamSpeak 3.
Except when they use mumble.
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mumble ftw, nuff said. ;)
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All your arguments like
mumble ftw, nuff said. ;)
Except when they use mumble.
push me to TS3. Its like childish saying mine is better because is better.
Just dont get trolled by stupid post from Bali. Give solid arguments :P
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All your arguments like
push me to TS3. Its like childish saying mine is better because is better.
Just dont get trolled by stupid post from Bali. Give solid arguments :P
Like yours?
TS3 (with some useful plugis) for fonline purposes, beats all other communcators
The best argument is, that hosting 300+ users server is free on Mumble... And that Mumble is open source, not closed like TS3, if you know C++ you can make something which you don't have in Mumble/Murmur for yourself :>
Almost the same ;)
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/2575/screen03062011190232.jpg (http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/2575/screen03062011190232.jpg)
Oh, rly?
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/670/fonline2011060600082479.png
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/6223/fonline2011060600094292.png
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/543/fonline2011060600102325.png
Display of the full blown client user interface inside the overlay. On the Windows platform it is fully interactive just like the desktop client. (This feature is EXPERIMENTAL)