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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Gang Issues => Topic started by: wreese2u on April 06, 2011, 11:09:46 pm
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I enter redding few times get killed when Desert Protecters owned the town, After wwp takes the town i am still getting killed, vote if you think they are pkers or not
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It's kinda obvious isn't it? How often do you really see normal players that haven't caused trouble in there? I don't, and I have reason to believe it's because all the bodies are getting thrown in with the rest in the graveyard.
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I think whole WWP idea is cool and i like Cryofluid pictures.
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I think whole WWP idea is cool
it is, but: (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x111/elienguitar/wrong.jpg)
and i like Cryofluid pictures.
Who doesn't? ;D
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I think whole WWP idea is cool and i like Cryofluid pictures.
That might be strange but i changed my mind. Few minutes ago i was slaughtered in Redding for no reason as a part of role play fun huh? Killing outlaw? I dont know what was that but it was very stupid. And i can assure u that i will try to convince my folks to destroy your project whenever u set it up. I tried to be cool for you(roleplay, guarding and other shit) but you were not cool for me... Now its time for consequences. Thanks for Slaz user.
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That might be strange but i changed my mind. Few minutes ago i was slaughtered in Redding for no reason as a part of role play fun huh? Killing outlaw? I dont know what was that but it was very stupid. And i can assure u that i will try to convince my folks to destroy your project whenever u set it up. I tried to be cool for you(roleplay, guarding and other shit) but you were not cool for me... Now its time for consequences. Thanks for Slaz user.
With this kind of attitude we will never succes to do anything Manero. Next time you are not happy of something maybe you can thing about something else to do than destroy every thing.
If I am not wrong, Slaz didnt have the support of Redding gouvernement.
But is probably a lot more easy to just say WWP SUCK I WILL DESTROY!!!!!!!
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If I am not wrong, Slaz didnt have the support of Redding gouvernement.
I will understand his behaviour if he would kill me in 1 on 1 fight. But he used WWP militia to kill me. Not TTTLA militia. If he hasn't Redding goverment support how is it possible that he controls militia? I was a part of WWP but they expelled me because you(TTTLA) were afraid that i will kill innocent people? Steal stuff from locker?(what a nonsense) I accepted that but still helped WWP and than...? Was killed by TTTLA member using WWP militia? Heh it was like WTF...
Big dissapoint. I can't find different word.
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I have no idea what happened there, but I know from talking with both of you guys (LeMark and Manero) that you are nice persons. Why not just try to calm down a bit and try to bury the issue, instead of moving forward to fullscale rage?
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I will understand his behaviour if he would kill me in 1 on 1 fight. But he used WWP militia to kill me. Not TTTLA militia. If he doesnt has Redding goverment support how is it possible that he controls militia? I was a part of WWP but they expelled me because you(TTTLA) were afraid that i will kill innocent people? Steal stuff from locker?(what a nonsense) I accepted that but still helped WWP and than...? Was killed by TTTLA member using WWP militia? Heh it was like WTF...
Big dissapoint. I can't find different word.
Why you talk about TTTLA or WWP behavior when your are victim of only 1 men?
TTTLA give control of WWP to elected government more than a month ago, only Cryofluid is on this government so we CANT kick you from WWP.
If you thing you are victim of a criminal act in Redding maybe you can put charge on your aggressor to the Redding government.
Or you can join Wreese2u and troll more.
Edit: I post before I saw Surf msg, you can deleter my post if you thing that will end again in fullscale rage.
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Nowadays there are a lot of people who want to destroy wwp project. So please, calm down a bit and try to come with better solution than insulting each other.
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I dont think im trolling here. I just expressed my feelings about situation and it is a pity because i was big WWP supporter and project fan.
There was idea - REDDING OPEN CITY. U ARE ALIVE AS LONG AS U ARE CALM. That was great. But things has changed. There is no sense to continue that project.
WWP guys know whats happened, you know whats happened and I know what will happen. Maybe not tomorrow, rather in next season but im realy stuborn when it comes for revange :(
Its all from me.
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I dont think im trolling here. I just expressed my feelings about situation and it is a pity because i was big WWP supporter and project fan.
WWP guys know whats happened, you know whats happened and I know what will happen. Maybe not tomorrow, rather in next season but im realy stuborn when it comes for revange :(
I thing you troll because you react just after something piss you off and your reaction with basic instinct: revenge and destroy. Next time take the time to think about was just happening and what you can do to fix it in the future, if you are fan of this project try to make it better and not bring you friend to destroy it. This project has the support of only few guys, every day he receive threat of people who want to destroy it (seems Hawk and VSB join this club). This project has enough enemies, maybe you can join the select club of people who will support it no matter what, it is a real small club.
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The worst thing is that no one even wrote that this dude-Slaz acted like asshole. Everyone almost try to convince me that it was my fault because im 'outlaw'. On the other hand u asked that 'outlaw' for help a week ago in Modoc when prepared to fight against VSB and Hawks... and i helped you. Same asked me TSAR and C88 in Klamath(most of them are also WWP members). And now that? Where is place for game respect? Role play honour?
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If I understand manero correctly, there's still the problem that "Slaz didnt have the support of Redding gouvernement."
Yet, this person is still part of the faction that owns Redding.
Why would you keep him in the Redding-controlling faction if he doesn't agree with what they are doing?
Just my way of looking at it.
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I don't see anyone say who is right who is not. Personally I have no idea of what happens and I am not in this government so I will not judge. What I say is this thing just happens tonight, Manero did you try to have explication from Redding active players? See what they thing about that?
Rage solves nothing.
Post in Wreese2u topic is a waste of time and a motivation to him to start a new one.
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I personaly go in Redding with my crafter even if I caused some trouble in the past.The people there are always very friendly and helpful when I need something.Keep up the good work!
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I totally agree with SIGISMUND (Even i cannot use anymore those Dynan and Combative alts to be WWP member)
I see no other use for Redding than Craft tons of stuff and mine HQ stuff safety.
Guys are very friendly at Redding (Yeah even you Avv), but it was sometimes very silent and overrun by CS or other scums.
Please.. don't stop WWP project. I believe in that project!
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You kidding? Avv is a carebear he helped me mine HQ minerals 1 or 2 times :) . And if some of you got killed it was probably a misunderstanding it happens.Nobody is perfect.I suggest you 2 chill out.
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You kidding? Avv is a carebear he helped me mine HQ minerals 1 or 2 times :)
At this moment i don't feel to make jokes about things i really like.
And WWP is one of them.
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I'm not joking he really did help me.
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I support wwp by helping kill the pkers, lately i have been getting slaughtered by wwp :(, the problem is resolved with wwp and i
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Slaz issue:
RP of Slaz: He is a TTTLA agent stationed in Redding.
So he acts like TTTLA: hated by most wastelanders because The Agency is stubborn to its "Holy Law" and believes hard that civilization has to be established with an iron fist (like The Enclave is sure to act for the benefit of the Nation)
So why is he in WWP members?
=> WWP government offered him citizenship as a diplomatic gesture toward TTTLA.
What can WWP do if Slaz is abusing of his power?
1- Expel him from WWP membership
=> problem is it might create a diplomatic issue with TTTLA => and as said above, WWP has enough enemies (even VSB and Hawks attacked us!)
2- Convince him to respect WWP laws
=> and here come the next issue: atm, WWP has no government, NO RULES => that's why it's a big mess.
Previous laws of WWP:
In the previous government's era, Chancellor Max Goldrat (ktt_Destroyer) established this law:
Shoot only on troublemakers AND (big difference with now) if troublemaker comes back, DO NOT SHOOT HIM until he makes trouble again.
This principle has the big advantage of avoiding chain-kill of people like Slaver Reese.
Because Chain-kill has only disadavantage : boring + increase victim anger (and this kind of project can be destroyed by only few angered people.)
New government will be elected at the end of the week and we will see clearly its NEW RULES.
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Thank's for fullfilling answer, Cryo.
It's a matter of time before threads like this appear, I'm actually surprised this is the first. We will start an internal investigation about the matter.
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To Moderators:
Can You ban: SIGISMUND/runboy93, it is same person>proof (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=15276.msg124889#msg124889)
Hes SPAMING this forum since a long time!!
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WWP project turned to shit since it was abandonned by TTTLA and other members of North alliance. Only n00bz stayed in this faction and other gangs just help them in TC and thats all. Without proper overwatch and leadership n00bz are just unable (by means of firepower and by means of morale) to maintain order.
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Then maybe some of experienced PvP apes (for example you) could come and help those "poor n00bz". Because if nobody comes to help, there will be really small chance for WWP to survive.
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WWP project turned to shit since it was abandonned by TTTLA and other members of North alliance. Only n00bz stayed in this faction and other gangs just help them in TC and thats all. Without proper overwatch and leadership n00bz are just unable (by means of firepower and by means of morale) to maintain order.
Not really, it turned to shit when previous government was disassembled. Even without lawyers, WWP was going fine with his government. The main problem is : no rules -> anarchy, but to set rules Redding need a new government and elections are on the way. So, these kind of issues should be resolved soon with the new elected government, no matter TTTLA or not.
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Hmm...Why they are killing me?! ???
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WHO is THEY? Nicks? Screens?
Else, rumors...
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Hmm...Why they are killing me?! ???
Dude, you can put another question. Why they are shouldnt kill you on sight ? Why everyone shouldnt kill you on sight ?
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To Moderators:
Can You ban: SIGISMUND/runboy93, it is same person>proof (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=15276.msg124889#msg124889)
Hes SPAMING this forum since a long time!!
Haha you are very funny.We are not same person. :)
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WWP project turned to shit since it was abandonned by TTTLA and other members of North alliance. Only n00bz stayed in this faction and other gangs just help them in TC and thats all. Without proper overwatch and leadership n00bz are just unable (by means of firepower and by means of morale) to maintain order.
WWP is not ye average PvP-Gang. We, the citizens(WWP Members), are not there to be elite military power like most of the 2238 gangs think gangs should be. 50% of redding forces are friends of WWP and thats good as it is. It should a open town not some private "gentlemen with rocketlaunchers" club where membership is mandatory.
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WWP is a evil roleplaying , grid camping , milita abusing , swarming , anarchistic organization.
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Today at 20:30 (GTM+1) the candidates will make speeches and answer questions (thats about 20 minutes from now). So, if you dont like something with WWP, this is the chance to do something about it, cast your votes :) (only citizens can cast votes but all can spectate, to learn future of Redding).
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Today at 20:30 (GTM+1) the candidates will make speeches and answer questions (thats about 20 minutes from now). So, if you dont like something with WWP, this is the chance to do something about it, cast your votes :) (only citizens can cast votes but all can spectate, to learn future of Redding).
THAT IS HILARIOUS! I just walked in there and got attacked by slaves grid camping. (set on auto kill)
Cool story bro.
(http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/12699/c8ad05126984246.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c8ad05126984246)
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jup they are pkers. Like everyone else, just somebody choses one side as targets, somebody choses another while the rest doesnt chose at all which is still the same in all cases. Its just pretty lame to see when somebody is trying to convince others how they help poor bluesuits, by not killing them. Such a help!
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THAT IS HILARIOUS! I just walked in there and got attacked by slaves grid camping. (set on auto kill)
Cool story bro.
(http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/12699/c8ad05126984246.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c8ad05126984246)
I think that they were configurated on "Attack ennemies of ... faction".
So if you have ennemies dont cry if you get killed.
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Today at 20:30 (GTM+1) the candidates will make speeches and answer questions (thats about 20 minutes from now). So, if you dont like something with WWP, this is the chance to do something about it, cast your votes :) (only citizens can cast votes but ALL can spectate, to learn future of Redding).
So before you say another incompetent remark, think.
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Milkhaelh139
The guy who killed you also killed our citizen.
He is clearly not a wwp.
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Milkhaelh139
The guy who killed you also killed our citizen.
He is clearly not a wwp.
yet he was not shot on sight for doing these actions? there were other people around, obviously some wwp, and even after slave incident they were not removed from the premises or attack changed, because i came back later to exact revenge and the slaves ran after me. :P Yes, I killed them :).
Anyways,
Don't blame the slaves, blame the master.
These men lie, I had committed no crime at the time, and I was murdered without trial on the streets!: (http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/12700/8759e3126990656.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8759e3126990656)
Stay out of redding if you want to live! The murderer was Slaz.
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Yes i can aprove that guy has shot me today 2, and his buddys... some of the french just like to pk sometimes and sometimes protect...
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man FUCK the wwp.. >:(... got killed once in the mines, and once just walking around redding with no provocation. ??? i didnt do anything, no warning no anything...1st and last time im going there without explosives.
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u have a problem, come talk to people.
if u r killed on sight at Redding coz u r considered a troublemaker, PM Avv or other known WWPs to try to talk - and listen. yes, Slaz has killed people sometimes without properly informing himself, but he has more often killed the right people. we re trying to sort things out, with him and with everyone else, including allies who find the ideas of a diplomatic faction and a peaceful, player-run town hard to fully conceive, or/and dont t trust that we can pull this off.
WWP is supposed to have good relations with ALL players and factions. ofc, each each of these players/factions has to at least know and try to understand the purposes of this project. any honest suggestion is more than appreciated. this is work-in-progress, so don t b surprised if sometimes info goes through slowly and different WWP act slightly differently. we do however all know basic rules. come with some patience and keep ur nose clean, and u ll gain a lot more than u ll lose.
rules are simple: don t PK or somehow else hurt people, don t play the sheriff, be smart (coz there s no such thing as a 100% safe town) and come to do smth useful at town. we want to have people trading, talking, recruiting, organizing small events, mining, crafting, calling their enemies to stop standing around at downtown and come PvP at Reno, etc...
@Mickelh: u r a CS, u r (all) still enemies of WWP, for numerous actions against Redding.
@Manero: u r right, it s cleared up. Slaz killed u by mistake. come back if u still want. still, we (the wasteland) need right-minded people like u are said to be to pass on the word to Rogues about WWP.
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u have a problem, come talk to people.
if u r killed on sight at Redding coz u r considered a troublemaker, PM Avv or other known WWPs to try to talk - and listen. yes, Slaz has killed people sometimes without properly informing himself, but he has more often killed the right people. we re trying to sort things out, with him and with everyone else, including allies who find the ideas of a diplomatic faction and a peaceful, player-run town hard to fully conceive, or/and dont t trust that we can pull this off.
WWP is supposed to have good relations with ALL players and factions. ofc, each each of these players/factions has to at least know and try to understand the purposes of this project. any honest suggestion is more than appreciated. this is work-in-progress, so don t b surprised if sometimes info goes through slowly and different WWP act slightly differently. we do however all know basic rules. come with some patience and keep ur nose clean, and u ll gain a lot more than u ll lose.
rules are simple: don t PK or somehow else hurt people, don t play the sheriff, be smart (coz there s no such thing as a 100% safe town) and come to do smth useful at town. we want to have people trading, talking, recruiting, organizing small events, mining, crafting, calling their enemies to stop standing around at downtown and come PvP at Reno, etc...
then your doing it wrong. But I'll give it another chance i guess, im only going in bluesuit from now on though.
@Mickelh: u r a CS, u r (all) still enemies of WWP, for numerous actions against Redding.
Today at 20:30 (GTM+1) the candidates will make speeches and answer questions (thats about 20 minutes from now). So, if you dont like something with WWP, this is the chance to do something about it, cast your votes :) (only citizens can cast votes but ALL can spectate, to learn future of Redding).
therefore the time i died and for whatever reason, was completely unjust, no matter what faction im in. I caused no trouble, so again... think before you post.
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To Moderators:
Can You ban: SIGISMUND/runboy93, it is same person>proof (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=15276.msg124889#msg124889)
Hes SPAMING this forum since a long time!!
I can only wonder what that can prove?
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man FUCK the wwp.. >:(... got killed once in the mines, and once just walking around redding with no provocation. ??? i didnt do anything, no warning no anything...1st and last time im going there without explosives.
Easy buddy. The mine is not protected by WWP members 24/7. We often have problems with people camping the mines. And I, a WWP-member, was killed in the mines like 1000 times and i dont scream around "fuck WWP! fuckin PKs! lol WWP just shoots without warning".
When youre killed in redding it doesnt always has to be a WWP members fault. We cant keep the whole city safe with 3 entrance grids and 1 green grid, so its normal some assholes sneak in and open fire on innocents.
Also we are not responsible for you beeing killed by someone who carries out personal grudge or revenge. We dont allow personal revenge between people in redding but please, if youre rushed over when entering town dont instantly think WWP is the reason because youre dead now. We cant control all visitors.
As we have a new councellor elected since yesterday we will soon have some laws about gunfight behaviour and will carry them out straight!
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man FUCK the wwp.. >:(... got killed once in the mines, and once just walking around redding with no provocation. ??? i didnt do anything, no warning no anything...1st and last time im going there without explosives.
That's the spirit , fuck em all and don't listen to WWP excuses they just want to get another chance to humiliate you , MAN their just looking for the slightest chance to stomp on you , it's like hippies standing and spreading peace for the wasteland with guns behind their backs. Do not fall for their diabolical scheme to take over the wasteland because one moment it's peace for everyone the next moment a knife stabbed in your back and the last sound you gonna hear will be a crazed WWP member voice shouting: " POWER " !
This is the truth I KNOW , cuz these voices in my head told me so. Their all mad !!! MAD I SAY BELIEVE the VOICES.
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They are still at the stage of Sesame Street ??? One day, they understand this:
In order not to end up like the Pokemon " Saddam, Mussolini " and the other wildlife beasts.
You have to know how to live with people. :P
Not to erase them, only for the sick fun. ::)
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l581/Seedgroup/PKit.jpg)
Now they can WWP me for this ;D
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Have you a fetish with older women, Leon.PL?
And people, WWP shouldn't kill you for no reason. But if you've caused serious trouble there... it's your problem.
How to check if WWP member shooting at you? In the central part of the town, if militia will follow gunman, he is from faction controlling the town, in Redding's case it's WWP.
As Andr3aZ said, we're not protect the town all time, although we're trying to. Mines is the most dangerous part of the town. Militia cannot interfere there, so this place is often attacked by hostile raider groups. So next time if you got killed in mines or everywhere else in the town of Redding, please go to main street and report this to first WWP member you meet.
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then your doing it wrong. But I'll give it another chance i guess, im only going in bluesuit from now on though.
therefore the time i died and for whatever reason, was completely unjust, no matter what faction im in. I caused no trouble, so again... think before you post.
u don t have to give us another chance. Sol was a bit unclear in his words, but u r unclear in ur intentions. u r forbidden to enter Redding, u and the rest of CS. if u don t want to be, organize among urselves and talk to WWP leaders.
clear rules are being written down presently, they will soon b out.
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Never trust any French guy. Simple, isn't it?
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Never trust any French guy. Simple, isn't it?
Stupid. Never trust anyone is the only true answer. Simple, isn't it?
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nope, i can be trusted :> Many people can be trusted.
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u don t have to give us another chance. Sol was a bit unclear in his words, but u r unclear in ur intentions.
my intention was obviously to spectate in the election. Then, I came to help fight DoW seeing as they killed me north side of redding. So ::) u r forbidden to enter Redding, u and the rest of CS. if u don t want to be, organize among urselves and talk to WWP leaders.
Doesn't matter much, nothing to do in Redding at all except mine, demolition prof, or buy base, none of those things I ever do nor want to do and i think anyone else wants to do...
clear rules are being written down presently, they will soon b out.
As long as the "project" has been going on this should've been done a long time ago so I'm not crossing my fingers ;D
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We also have some bad apples in our backyard. Bad apples that we are trying to cut off. (internal issues)
I am sorry for those who hasn't caused trouble in town and got killed in time of peace. (as far i am concerned, i check our ennemy list everytime i see a red guy in town)
I hope it won't happen too much, and that you will keep faith in our project.
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Evil WWP even using GM help to make distraction for swarms , accidentally gm shows up few seconds before swarm and with speed hack makes some diversion.
Meanwhile in Gecko mine , really mean players killing every living soul that enters and yelling: " you are on the WWP outlaw list , don't mess with WWP"
http://img199.imageshack.us/f/wwpwashere3.jpg/
Nasty Wee Wee Pee
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If things get too hot we simply summon the giant giant ant boss, so any criminals should just give up already.
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1313/antabuse.jpg) (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/antabuse.jpg/)
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Evil WWP even using GM help to make distraction for swarms , accidentally gm shows up few seconds before swarm and with speed hack makes some diversion.
Meanwhile in Gecko mine , really mean players killing every living soul that enters and yelling: " you are on the WWP outlaw list , don't mess with WWP"
http://img199.imageshack.us/f/wwpwashere3.jpg/
Nasty Wee Wee Pee
What a funny coincidence that you do not show us any nickname of the evil "VSB" and "WWP" guys.
If i had some gambling skill, i would bet thats you and your gay community.
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I really loved whining post...
Mickael39, you talk really too much, for example when in the past your faction ( Choosen ) taken BH, did you making something in ? Or only PK all guys that isn't of your faction and LULZ ? So what now, you can PK for nothing, and WWP cannot kill outlaws ?
And I want to say too to all the whining guys here, first of all made a project like Redding, and we will see if any mistake are not commited...
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Mickael39, you talk really too much, for example when in the past your faction ( Choosen ) taken BH, did you making something in ? Or only PK all guys that isn't of your faction and LULZ ? So what now, you can PK for nothing, and WWP cannot kill outlaws ?
We are raider faction, we kill people for their things and to laugh at their dead bodies. That is our roleplay, that is our play, and it will not change because we are content with this, and we do a good job at it don't we? :)
You are acting like you make a project to bring "peace" to Redding and you have "laws" and do not just kill others for lulz and loots.
Yet this is exactly what you do to almost everyone. It is just... sad. And there is no excuse, since you have the protection of militia, so even if guy came in with BA/avenger 253 HP or a bluesuit with a shovel, you should greet with a text saying "hi" rather than a barrage of rockets and bullets.
According to your roleplay from what i understand, everyone is welcome as long as they don't cause trouble within the town. Crimes commited outside the town are outside redding juristiction. Not that it matters any, because your roleplay is false, and you are just a pk gang like any other.
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Last time I went to Redding I was called an enemy scout and shot.
No, wait... that was my last but one visit... the last time I visited, WWP was too busy killing their own militia to even notice me.
But sure, I have faith in their project... NOT.
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apk = pk in disguise proven science :P
wwp just say u are really pk no one will judge u we all know u are just say it in a big group all at once we are pkers we kill for fun and not to protect we are just little bitches who think its better to say we are apk.
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What comes to reports about "I got killed for no reason" cases here at forums, they will be simply ignored. The reason could be anything ranging from lies to misunderstanding the town rules. If the victim wants reasoning to his threatment, he better contact us in private.
According to your roleplay from what i understand, everyone is welcome as long as they don't cause trouble within the town. Crimes commited outside the town are outside redding juristiction. Not that it matters any, because your roleplay is false, and you are just a pk gang like any other.
Wrong. We have a ruleset for troubblemaker gang members who haven't caused troubble in Redding. If such player wants to enter, he has four choices:
1. The guy leaves his previous gang
2. His gang makes a truce with wwp and refunds all (an astronomical ammount of) material losses they have caused to us.
3. He doesn't enter the town.
4. If there's very good reasoning why he should be allowed in, it can be discussed.
Reasoning behind this is that the player might very likely use our goodwill to gather information about our most active guards and public ongoings. Another reason is to show that players can't just do whatever they want. Their actions and choices have consequences.
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We are raider faction, we kill people for their things and to laugh at their dead bodies. That is our roleplay, that is our play, and it will not change because we are content with this, and we do a good job at it don't we? :)
You are acting like you make a project to bring "peace" to Redding and you have "laws" and do not just kill others for lulz and loots.
Yet this is exactly what you do to almost everyone. It is just... sad. And there is no excuse, since you have the protection of militia, so even if guy came in with BA/avenger 253 HP or a bluesuit with a shovel, you should greet with a text saying "hi" rather than a barrage of rockets and bullets.
According to your roleplay from what i understand, everyone is welcome as long as they don't cause trouble within the town. Crimes commited outside the town are outside redding juristiction. Not that it matters any, because your roleplay is false, and you are just a pk gang like any other.
I pretty much agree to this.
Funny thing , for example DoW comes to redding not because we want to kill bluesuits or to purposely break law , we come to redding only because there is a good fight always awaiting us :) So it means bluesuits get killed only because Wee Wee Pee draws attention to the town. I mean yesterday i realized there are more people mining in gecko mine than in redding , despite the fact the great WWP is protecting redding.
Who wants to mine in a city that everyday turns into a warzone ? ;D Man your a joke
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We are raider faction, we kill people for their things and to laugh at their dead bodies.
The easy way of life, don't need to create something, no mistake, like we say's in my country ( Retire la poutre que tu as dans l'œil avant de vouloir retirer la brindille dans le mien... ^^ )
and we do a good job at it don't we?
Honestly ? No... ^^
You are acting like you make a project to bring "peace" to Redding and you have "laws" and do not just kill others for lulz and loots.
Yes, thats it, and lots of people tell you the same... Only few peoples ( whining pro ) takes the opposite view... And lots of them are PK's, and it's really humoristic to see PK's whining about death in wasteland...
Yet this is exactly what you do to almost everyone. It is just... sad.
It's just your point of view... But they're lots of peoples happy with this project. ^^
And there is no excuse, since you have the protection of militia
I don't need any milicia... I'm in Redding like a mercenary, and help for fun or killing " THE OUTLAWS "... And they're lot's of players like me in Redding.
you should greet with a text saying "hi" rather than a barrage of rockets and bullets.
When we says " HI " we don't shoot anyone... But I remember guys ( I forgot team name, he start with " Cho ", damn... Today a dead team always trolling and whining on TC because they dont accept to lose... You know them ? ) that killing on sight all players spawning in BH for example...
According to your roleplay from what i understand, everyone is welcome as long as they don't cause trouble within the town.
But you're chosen, and for you it's not the same laws, because you do TC and you can be considerate like a scout, you know that no ? Don't tell me that you don't know that guy... Take a new char with unknow name for example. ^^
Not that it matters any, because your roleplay is false, and you are just a pk gang like any other.
Reese for example, one of the most hated guy in the wasteland after you, are going in Redding and have lots of time to talk, and from what i see nobody shoot him... ^^
So, in conclusion this post don't have any usefulness, it's just a whining post... And I just see rage...
DOW you are welcome in Redding, and in TC too, because when we sell you 45 BA is not for decorating your base. ^^
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The easy way of life, don't need to create something, no mistake, like we say's in my country ( Retire la poutre que tu as dans l'œil avant de vouloir retirer la brindille dans le mien... ^^ )
Because it is who we are, its what we do, we don't hide behind some bs.
Honestly ? No... ^^
You just confirmed it with the obvious hate hidden behind sarcasm in your post :P
Yes, thats it, and lots of people tell you the same... Only few peoples ( whining pro ) takes the opposite view... And lots of them are PK's, and it's really humoristic to see PK's whining about death in wasteland...
Even Gatling confirms you are just pks lying about being anti-pk. He must be uber whine pro as well. The only people not "whining" as far as I have seen are people are are in your gang or allied. ;)
It's just your point of view... But they're lots of peoples happy with this project. ^^
Of course alot of people are happy, you people that is. All those alliances with as many people you can spare the time not shooting... must be a hundred and one. ;D
I don't need any milicia... I'm in Redding like a mercenary, and help for fun or killing " THE OUTLAWS "... And they're lot's of players like me in Redding.
Aye, that bluesuit guy looks like he's gonna pwn us all with that spear.
When we says " HI " we don't shoot anyone... But I remember guys ( I forgot team name, he start with " Cho ", damn... Today a dead team always trolling and whining on TC because they dont accept to lose... You know them ? ) that killing on sight all players spawning in BH for example...
Wait for Domination ;).
But you're chosen, and for you it's not the same laws, because you do TC and you can be considerate like a scout, you know that no ? Don't tell me that you don't know that guy... Take a new char with unknow name for example. ^^
I had every intention to respect the laws while inside redding, and besides that, I'm scouting all the same if I'm on this "unknown" character, plus, you would just shoot him anyways.
Reese for example, one of the most hated guy in the wasteland after you, are going in Redding and have lots of time to talk, and from what i see nobody shoot him... ^^
I know, I was there while he was there, the few moments I wasn't dead in redding. I was having normal time that i was enjoying, then suddenly Slaz comes up and bursts me with lsw, while i was bluesuit and had commited no "Crime" within redding. besides the fact that it was on the day of election where i was supposed to be allowed to spectate no matter who I am, brings up even more suspicion no? ;) besides, most people were trying to tell Slaz to not kill me because I had done nothing.
So, in conclusion this post don't have any usefulness, it's just a whining post... And I just see rage...
Lol, rage for dying in bluesuit? No hoho... There is no rage, onlyspeaking the truth. I always hated liars, they're a parasite to everything everywhere. And you and your ilk are those very parasites that i wish to save others from being victimized by :).
DOW you are welcome in Redding, and in TC too, because when we sell you 45 BA is not for decorating your base. ^^
Really need More meat for your swarm eh?
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Can we add [TrollTopic] at the tittle of this topic ?
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Can we add [TrollTopic] at the tittle of this topic ?
you must be wwp if u dont like the truth dont read as easy as that. >:(
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The interesting thing is that most of you, who try to sell your truth here are persons who, due to criminal records are considered as enemies of town Redding. ;)
But I don't understand one thing. You always wanted to be evil evil persons, and now, when we treating you as persons you've always wanted to be, you start to whine.
Last time I went to Redding I was called an enemy scout and shot.
No, wait... that was my last but one visit... the last time I visited, WWP was too busy killing their own militia to even notice me.
But sure, I have faith in their project... NOT.
If you came during Town Control, such situations are normal.
Killing own militia... what would you do if you have spear and knife militia? Simple, replace it!
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you must be wwp if u dont like the truth dont read as easy as that. >:(
Troll is on both sides.
Anyway, if you are a member of an outlaw gang, you still can refer to avv conditions. (and maybe wait for another conditions, with new governement)
1. The guy leaves his previous gang
2. His gang makes a truce with wwp and refunds all (an astronomical ammount of) material losses they have caused to us.
3. He doesn't enter the town.
4. If there's very good reasoning why he should be allowed in, it can be discussed.
In all cases, trolling won't lead anyone to peace.
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Peacekeepers for redding yeah.
http://img16.imageshack.us/i/wwpw.jpg/
WWP interacting in reno ?
Their not even defending anything they were the first to attack us in reno. How is that not PK ?
Stop fooling yourself yourself that WWP is APK , peacekeepers or whatever it always ends up the same PK's !
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Peacekeepers for redding yeah.
http://img16.imageshack.us/i/wwpw.jpg/
WWP interacting in reno ?
Their not even defending anything they were the first to attack us in reno. How is that not PK ?
Stop fooling yourself yourself that WWP is APK , peacekeepers or whatever it always ends up the same PK's !
But you must admit, when they kicked you in Reno, it was APK behaviour, because youre PK right ? Tell me, why you are not banned yet ?
BTW. It wasnt only WWPs which were in Reno. Hawks and VSBs were there too, in count some 25+ people on some 4-6 PKs. What it is if not APK behavior ? 8)
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When wwp members go to reno/tc, it's their personal activity and has nothing to do with what we do in Redding.
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jup its confirmed wwp are badass pkers.
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If you came during Town Control, such situations are normal.
Nope, it wasn't during TC.
Killing own militia... what would you do if you have spear and knife militia? Simple, replace it!
That's the exact opposite of RP, isn't it? Just admit you're a bunch of poor trolls.
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But you must admit, when they kicked you in Reno, it was APK behaviour, because youre PK right ? Tell me, why you are not banned yet ?
BTW. It wasnt only WWPs which were in Reno. Hawks and VSBs were there too, in count some 25+ people on some 4-6 PKs. What it is if not APK behavior ? 8)
You think im gonna get banned because of discussing the apk matter ? Do you even think with your head ?
Your logic is exactly like this , if PK's kill other PK's by your logic it means that's an APK act ! No really do you use your head for something useful other than being a complete " smart ass " every single post you make ?
First battle in reno was hillarious , we were dividing into to teams to leave reno , suddenly avv and his girls attack from behind , a rocket flies into like 7-8 members.
How can APK's and PK's even join forces ? How is that possible that their still APK's if they swore to kill outlaws ?
Is that APK behaviour ? I mean just shut up your obviously " not fit " to post here.
nasty we we pee http://img199.imageshack.us/i/wwpwashere3.jpg/
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Peacekeepers for redding yeah.
http://img16.imageshack.us/i/wwpw.jpg/
The story behind that mass of people is quite simple.
We were capturing towns, and when we run out of towns to capture we gone 'drinking' in Redding's pub. But since none were there, we decided to go Reno where PKs were reported.
Obviously this was ment for fun, nobody would ever bother to maintain that huge group just to kick some asses, when much smaller group is sufficient, it was just that we had a lot of people and nothing more to do.
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The story behind that mass of people is quite simple.
We were capturing towns, and when we run out of towns to capture we gone 'drinking' in Redding's pub. But since none were there, we decided to go Reno where PKs were reported.
Obviously this was ment for fun, nobody would ever bother to maintain that huge group just to kick some asses, when much smaller group is sufficient, it was just that we had a lot of people and nothing more to do.
Yep this proves again there is no such thing as APK only PK's.
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Sorry if it sounds a little dumb, but as i see things.
PKs shoots everyone on sight and defend themselves
APKs shoots PKs on sight and defend themselves
Neutrals doesn't shoot on sight but defend themselves
Ghandies doesn't shoot and don't even defend themselves
PK need someone to shoot at. (or get bored)
APK need PK to shoot at. (or get bored and useless)
neutral need peace. (or can't do their business)
Ghandies need to change their mind. (or get killed by PK)
So the first two group, at least, need pvp, need some fights.
So, APK are not ghandies.
All the 4 groups are able to troll.
WWP gathers APK, neutrals and ghandies.
So, it never simple.
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That's the exact opposite of RP, isn't it? Just admit you're a bunch of poor trolls.
Not excatly. Militia protects us against small scale attacks. I don't like militia replacement but it's necessary to increase safety of visitors against potential threats.
RP dosen't matter here. Have you been there when we've started this project (before WWP was founded)? I guess no if you don't know what I'm talking about...
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Not excatly.
'Replacing' militia = abusing game mechanics = the exact opposite of RP.
Can you imagine this happening in real life? You take over a town and ask some of the citizens to protect it, then kill the ones you consider too weak? I don't think so, Tim. You're nothing but a bunch of munchkins, pure and simple.
Frankly, I'm growing weary of more and more of all that WWP-related spam. Imagine what would happen if *every* PK advertised his trap(s) so persistently, and take a hike.
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'Replacing' militia = abusing game mechanics = the exact opposite of RP.
Can you imagine this happening in real life? You take over a town and ask some of the citizens to protect it, then kill the ones you consider too weak? I don't think so, Tim. You're nothing but a bunch of munchkins, pure and simple.
lol RP. lol realism.
Frankly, I'm growing weary of more and more of all that WWP-related spam. Imagine what would happen if *every* PK advertised his trap(s) so persistently, and take a hike.
Threads and spam made by non-WWP. What do you expect? They jelly and mad :D
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When wwp members go to reno/tc, it's their personal activity and has nothing to do with what we do in Redding.
Wrong. We have a ruleset for troubblemaker gang members who haven't caused troubble in Redding. If such player wants to enter, he has four choices:
1. The guy leaves his previous gang
2. His gang makes a truce with wwp and refunds all (an astronomical ammount of) material losses they have caused to us.
3. He doesn't enter the town.
4. If there's very good reasoning why he should be allowed in, it can be discussed.
Reasoning behind this is that the player might very likely use our goodwill to gather information about our most active guards and public ongoings. Another reason is to show that players can't just do whatever they want. Their actions and choices have consequences.
Your "law" is hypocritical.
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Your "law" is hypocritical.
why that? WWP runs redding including safety to a certain degree. You come to redding you obey or make trouble, your choice.
If WWP Member go elsewhere they do the same. As for example if WWP would visit BH under BHH control and active town safety WWP would obey their laws too and try to diplomate. If they go to Reno they can have fun like everybody else because there are no rules/lawkeepers.
We care about redding and are not going to visit every unguarded city, throw around flowers and tell hubertus he should not kill that poor bluesuit.
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why that? WWP runs redding including safety to a certain degree. You come to redding you obey or make trouble, your choice.
If WWP Member go elsewhere they do the same. As for example if WWP would visit BH under BHH control and active town safety WWP would obey their laws too and try to diplomate. If they go to Reno they can have fun like everybody else because there are no rules/lawkeepers.
We care about redding and are not going to visit every unguarded city, throw around flowers and tell hubertus he should not kill that poor bluesuit.
wwp members can apparently go anywhere and do whatever they want as long as its not "crimes" while inside redding. Not that it matters because they do this anyway.
yet people not in the gang apparently can be killed without warning or reason in redding. It doesn't make any sense. Unless your a pk.
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wwp members can apparently go anywhere and do whatever they want as long as its not "crimes" while inside redding. Not that it matters because they do this anyway.
yet people not in the gang apparently can be killed without warning or reason in redding. It doesn't make any sense. Unless your a pk.
Yes our freetime activities have nothing to do with Redding. WWP members can do whatever they want beyond Redding, unless they act as representatives of the gang.
Ofcourse someone can be killed in Redding without warning but reasons always exist. The reasoning can be anything, first we're interested in knowing what the reason was and after that if it was justified.
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wwp members can apparently go anywhere and do whatever they want as long as its not "crimes" while inside redding. Not that it matters because they do this anyway.
yet people not in the gang apparently can be killed without warning or reason in redding. It doesn't make any sense. Unless your a pk.
Well it makes sense to me , the same anarchists and pk's with a town to protect. Basicly they are the same people that redding is protected from. This leads to a funny thing that technically when WWP members are out of town they should be considered as a potential threat to redding , because their outlaws and pk's. :) just speculating.
I have based this thought on avv's " do whatever they want beyond Redding " , sounds like anarchy for me.
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You still play this game? :o Unbelieveable...
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Well it makes sense to me , the same anarchists and pk's with a town to protect. Basicly they are the same people that redding is protected from. This leads to a funny thing that technically when WWP members are out of town they should be considered as a potential threat to redding , because their outlaws and pk's. :) just speculating.
I have based this thought on avv's " do whatever they want beyond Redding " , sounds like anarchy for me.
hurr hurr im exploiting your laws against you because im so clever! like we give a fuck. We do this for fun.
Let me quote a guy who tells da truth!
Actually I don't give a fuck about this poll, like everybody here. What the point of this crap, when the biggest part of the server is trigger happy ? What the point when most of people continuously ask us to justify our behavior whereas they act like badasses all the time ?
So, for now on, don't expect any explanation, justification, argument... from our team, cause we're sick and tired. You just have to know we try to stick to our roleplay, like we do since a year. We don't care about the PK/APK stuff, we just follow the Great Law. Deal with it.
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You still play this game? :o Unbelieveable...
You play this game after wipe (damn i wait to see how many players online at that day :D )
And we play this to the end.
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WWP is exactly the same as any other gang, and you're a fool if you expect anything different. Don't expect a clique to acknowledge or care about the opinions of outsiders unless you can back it up with force.
It's their town, and if they want to act like barbaric mouth breathers with delusions of civilisation, let them. If they can hold onto the town, they're welcome to do what they like. It's your fault for going there and expecting anything else. Sure, they say they're trying to keep the town peaceful, but above all Redding is their vanity project. So you play by their rules - and their rules are we do what we feel like.
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WWP is exactly the same as any other gang...
How?
Sure, they say they're trying to keep the town peaceful, but above all Redding is their vanity project
Vanity project?
So you play by their rules - and their rules are we do what we feel like.
What is wrong with this? When a faction controls a town, it's theirs and they do whatever they want there. They can PK any sad fucker who enters, they can just take the TC loot, they can start a RP project, etc. WWP rules are clear, but there are people not obeying them (people withn WWP, not outsiders). No offense, but you seem not to know who is who inside WWP. There are a lot of members trying to make the situation better and stop the bullshit.
And also you got the usual situation of different people with different opinions within the same group, which is something that has always happened and will always happen.
But it's easy to say all WWP members are the same. As easy as saying WWP = TTTLA (and even that TTTLA = any APK faction).
Although everyone can make a mistake in any situation, there are people who have cool intentions with this project. WWP are trying to do something that 2238 needs: filling it up with content and RP. Others will always and are already taking advantage of it, or just plain trollin'. "Pay us with xxx item or we ruin WWP project!" - "don't let any APK gang attack xxx city or we ruin WWP project!" - "lololol i troll u in Redding mines!"
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I dislike your way of playing because it is different to my way of playing.
Your signature tell only the truth...
Your post is just blablabla...
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I should clarify: I do not feel strongly about what you guys are doing in Redding. I've been there enough times to form an opinion, with a couple different characters. I haven't been impressed, haven't come back. I am not trying to prove you guys are hypocrites or destroy Redding with my carebear propaganda.
My point is that Redding isn't some player-run Utopia, and non-WWP members shouldn't expect it to be. It's a virtual hangout for a bunch of guys who are quite literally a law unto themselves. That means you are likely to get shot if you are not a WWP member, and you should prepare for that.
Maybe one day it will become something organised and impressive, but all I've encountered are a bunch of guys standing around, shooting and harassing people they don't recognise.
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My point is that Redding isn't some player-run Utopia, and non-WWP members shouldn't expect it to be.
I thought we stopped believing in utopias some decades ago. Politics and keeping order is something difficult, both in real life and in 2238. People are doing as much as they can, and are always trying to accomplish more.
...you are likely to get shot if you are not a WWP member, and you should prepare for that.
(...)
...all I've encountered are a bunch of guys standing around, shooting and harassing people they don't recognise.
Already said that is not WWP official interests, but just some people fucking around.
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Already said that is not WWP official interests, but just some people fucking around.
If it's not in their interests replace them with someone who does, because it sounds like the "WWP Officials" have become corrupt already :>.
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Oh, what a splendid idea. Hell it's always easy to know how to manage stuff when you are not managing it yourself, eh?
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If it's not in their interests replace them with someone who does, because it sounds like the "WWP Officials" have become corrupt already :>.
very corrupt, im no longer gonna try to help redding, ill just kill poor miners now :<
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very corrupt, im no longer gonna try to help redding, ill just kill poor miners now :<
Thats why I always go armed at mining to defend myself from people like you.
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You play this game after wipe (damn i wait to see how many players online at that day :D )
And we play this to the end.
Who dont play? Wipe is Soon
Soon means it is Soon
In 30 minutes it is Soon
In 1 month it is Soon
In 6 months it is Soon
In 1 year it is Soon
You will never hear anything else ?
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http://img580.imageshack.us/i/screen20042011172100.jpg/
Another of wwp killing me, reason? did no pking inside of wwp last time someone said mdk i enemy it was cleared, they are now saying it again.....
Isnt this against redding rules? killing when crimes happend outside of redding?
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Criminal gang
A gang is considered criminal if ambiguous number of its members have gained criminal status in Redding.
So i don't know the details and im not accusing anyone, but maybe your gang tried to raid redding a few times too much?
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For now, if a gang attacks Redding, all members of that gang are unallowed.
You still can try to get in touch with one of the officials, for an individual access.
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All I can say is:
Death to the WWP! Hallelujah!
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For now, if a gang attacks Redding, all members of that gang are unallowed.
You still can try to get in touch with one of the officials, for an individual access.
never attacked redding
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never attacked redding
Bullshit. Why do you lie? I have seen you performing the very actions you just declined to perform. And I am even quite as non existant ingame. Infact, you don't want to see you me ingame. Next time, I'll autoban all responsible showcases if they do shit.
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never attacked redding
Really?
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4633/screen27042011035825.jpg
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Really?
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4633/screen27042011035825.jpg
this is after the fact idiot, i got tired of being killed in redding so i come back and attack redding, i was attacked every time i enter they said "MDK is blacklisted"
sorry for multipost
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Bullshit. Why do you lie? I have seen you performing the very actions you just declined to perform. And I am even quite as non existant ingame. Infact, you don't want to see you me ingame. Next time, I'll autoban all responsible showcases if they do shit.
i never lied, i start pk in redding after i was chain killed by marshall sama has forgave me for this and he has told me marshal is no longer wwp
sorry for multipost
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i never lied, i start pk in redding after i was chain killed by marshall sama has forgave me for this and he has told me marshal is no longer wwp
sorry for multipost
So you are saying that you're blaming WWP for being killed, while the guy who killed you explicitely said that he is not WWP?
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Well what to say... shit happens.
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surf has this gone on for to long
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So you are saying that you're blaming WWP for being killed, while the guy who killed you explicitely said that he is not WWP?
The WWP is meant to protect people. and if he is not a WWP member. and is not defending himself. he should not be killing people. so yes. if that is really the case. and the person killing him was not defending himself or the town, then it is the WWPs fault for not protecting him.
However. i don't know the full story. but that is how the rules worked last time i checked.
-Ulrek-
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The WWP is meant to protect people. and if he is not a WWP member. and is not defending himself. he should not be killing people. so yes. if that is really the case. and the person killing him was not defending himself or the town, then it is the WWPs fault for not protecting him.
they would never admit to that, their roleplay project is FTW! It is uberpowerful and incorruptable.
but that is how the rules worked last time i checked.
5 minutes ago?
(These aren't necessarily directed at you but at wwp)
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wwp is rotten.
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Oh yeah WWP is the DEVIL...
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg69/Dgray_05/albert-einstein-trolls.jpg)
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I don't really see what the problem is, fact of the matter is based off the poll almost 50% haven't and that's better than any other unprotected city you would go into.
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probably WWP thought is clear and nice, but people are not
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I don't really see what the problem is, fact of the matter is based off the poll almost 50% haven't and that's better than any other unprotected city you would go into.
No one said, that members of that WWP weren't able to vote as well. How many members they have? 5? Honestly I have no idea, so it's still possible they have even those 50%.
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It's very typical phenomena, vengeance is stronger feeling than grattitude. When something bad happens, people go haywire. When something nice happens, they just forget it. It's the same thing with our blacklist and citizen list. Nobody bothers to report a peaceful towngoer, but people are eager to report pks and troubblemakers.
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It's very typical phenomena, vengeance is stronger feeling than grattitude. When something bad happens, people go haywire. When something nice happens, they just forget it. It's the same thing with our blacklist and citizen list. Nobody bothers to report a peaceful towngoer, but people are eager to report pks and troubblemakers.
Probably because by default these "peaceful towngoers" shouldn't have to be reported to as being good. They shouldn't be shot in the first place. ::) Logically, you're not going to report someone being good, because they pose no threat thus no point. however if someone is a threat and killing people, OF COURSE your going to report him.
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Probably because by default these "peaceful towngoers" shouldn't have to be reported to as being good. They shouldn't be shot in the first place. ::) Logically, you're not going to report someone being good, because they pose no threat thus no point. however if someone is a threat and killing people, OF COURSE your going to report him.
this is true i asked chuck norris and he said what mich said is a proven science. ;D
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It's very typical phenomena, vengeance is stronger feeling than grattitude. When something bad happens, people go haywire. When something nice happens, they just forget it. It's the same thing with our blacklist and citizen list. Nobody bothers to report a peaceful towngoer, but people are eager to report pks and troubblemakers.
and you are eager to "not authorised people dont loot" instead of "welcome to redding" or something like that. Johnny is right on this one, its not project its people on it.
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we VSB experienced same situations
nobody says Thanks for guarding mine, but when we accidentaly kill someone who we think is PK, then ragestorm appears VSB PKs THEY KILLED ME BURN THEM KILL THEM BAN THEEEMMM, I WAS ALLWAYS SAYING THEY ARE PKs....
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we VSB experienced same situations
nobody says Thanks for guarding mine, but when we accidentaly kill someone who we think is PK, then ragestorm appears VSB PKs THEY KILLED ME BURN THEM KILL THEM BAN THEEEMMM, I WAS ALLWAYS SAYING THEY ARE PKs....
Life of anti-pk.
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we VSB experienced same situations
nobody says Thanks for guarding mine, but when we accidentaly kill someone who we think is PK, then ragestorm appears VSB PKs THEY KILLED ME BURN THEM KILL THEM BAN THEEEMMM, I WAS ALLWAYS SAYING THEY ARE PKs....
Strangely, It's the same in our side...
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Strangely, It's the same in our side...
Seems that poeple prefer to be shoot everytime ::)
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9 pages of greatest shit chat, i wonder when non retarted people finally stop pushing this assholes fakes whine tread with answers.
On the other side, Michael Ulrek falloutdude wreese etc, your attemp to keep that tread alive at any cost is kinda funny,
looks like you are rescue breathing a crack whores stinky cunt. So have fun until some mod wakes up and closes this spawn of mental disability.
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9 pages of greatest shit chat, i wonder when non retarted people finally stop pushing this assholes fakes whine tread with answers.
On the other side, Michael Ulrek falloutdude wreese etc, your attemp to keep that tread alive at any cost is kinda funny,
looks like you are rescue breathing a crack whores stinky cunt. So have fun until some mod wakes up and closes this spawn of mental disability.
answer comes like from a real roleplayer!
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9 pages of greatest shit chat, i wonder when non retarted people finally stop pushing this assholes fakes whine tread with answers.
On the other side, Michael Ulrek falloutdude wreese etc, your attemp to keep that tread alive at any cost is kinda funny,
looks like you are rescue breathing a crack whores stinky cunt. So have fun until some mod wakes up and closes this spawn of mental disability.
I take it you are having a bad day?
-Ulrek-
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I take it you are having a bad day?
-Ulrek-
no not just a bad day a bad life trololololol
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Finally it seems that VSB WWP, TTTLA etc.... ARE authentic PK's but don't assume it......
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I still wonder, why hasn't this wall of flame been locked, yet. There's nothing valuable here it's just useless debate:
"You shot me you're PK."
"Ok, I'm sorry."
"No, you're not, you're PK"
"No, I'm APK!"
"There are no APKs! You shot my unknown alt, that prooves it."
"It was during TC battle."
"It doesn't matter."
Let's keep this thread alive few more days so we have 1/12 of year anniversary.
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Finally it seems that VSB WWP, TTTLA etc.... ARE authentic PK's but don't assume it......
Haha TTTLA are just assholes, tucnakomrd, and bluesuit chainkillers using bots to create a rocket to invade the moon to create a secret base to make an army of mutant pinguins with an aim of invading NCR to cultivate watermelons to destroy FOnline servers. And somebody said me that they love Justin Bieber and they hide Bin Laden in their actual base near redding during 2 months, 13 hours, 14 min, and 54 sec.
More over, I want to say you that you are right TTTLA, VSB, WWP are PK ! Indeed PK means Player Killer and me, and my teammates kill our ennemies. So we are PK. And we assume it.
When I am on my crafter, I craft weapons to kill.
What you wrote is a pure lie so, because we never said that we dont kill poeple. Ups, I said something against you, you will again tell the admins to ban me. Damn.
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Zozio is troll. He is angry that he didint win battle against bad TTLAs so ... :P
Zozio is trooool, Zozio is trooool
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I have no idea who "invented" this anti-PK (APK) phrase, even it doesn't make any sense. Of course every gang kills players but some gangs have mode set to "kill anybody who isn't a member of our faction" while some other gangs have mode "don't attack until you get hit" or "shoot only enemies of our faction". The first group should be called bad guys or evil gangs or something like that and the second group could be good guys or kind guys etc. Yes, I can openly say I'm a PK. I like killing people but I would never kill random unarmed bluesuit with 32 hp just because I can and because I am strong, I've got a power, blahblah etc. etc.
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everybody have their own enemies, there is no pk or apk. there are enemies, allies and unknown mans. if unknown mans are getting shotted because of unknownability (and possible lethality), you can just go cry about it. i dont care who i shoot and it makes me PK in your mind. im not even wwp but when i kill someone they are saying WWP IS PK!!! so there are accusions as much as killings.
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everybody have their own enemies, there is no pk or apk. there are enemies, allies and unknown mans. if unknown mans are getting shotted because of unknownability (and possible lethality), you can just go cry about it. i dont care who i shoot and it makes me PK in your mind. im not even wwp but when i kill someone they are saying WWP IS PK!!! so there are accusions as much as kills.
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Zozio is just stucked in this narrow minded PK/APK thingy, maybe someday he'll realise that it doesnt make any sense.
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ups
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No rpg in Redding at the moment so mby some moderator can clean up this shit ? :)
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I usually go away from these 'apk=pk or not' arguments but since I saw a post that similar to my ideas (Uzaykeki's). When my char was lvl1 he got killed a lot of time at the gecko mine so now that he has a chance I sometimes try to shoot the armed guys there sadly I think they already knew me I think if I appear with a sledge at the mine I get killed and when I gear up I either find an army or noone there. About to get to wwp I think it would be less problematic if there would be an open list about who can enter or not. Dunno if the wanted list at TTTLA site is that if yes forget what I said with my last sentence.
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bla bla....
So we are PK. And we assume it.
etc....
Such an evolution!!!!!!
Zozio is just stucked in this narrow minded PK/APK thingy, maybe someday he'll realise that it doesnt make any sense.
That's just what I have always said....
No rpg in Redding at the moment so mby some moderator can clean up this shit ? :)
There IS a RPG in Redding: crimes, summary executions, totalitarism.....
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Such an evolution!!!!!!
I would like to point out something: TTTLA never claimed to be anti-PK. We always said we were anti-Outlaw, because we kill on sight everyone who don't respect Our Holy Law.
(the most recent one)
You really never read what we are saying, do you? Too busy to listen to your own fantasy world I guess.
That's just what I have always said....
Yeah! He finally recognize he is just stucked in this narrow minded PK/APK thingy ! First step is done!
There IS a RPG in Redding: crimes, summary executions, totalitarism.....
Well, even in most totalitarist states, soldier talk (yeah, you know, this feature, you press enter and you can communicate with other player in game) to peoples and send most of them to prison before the execution. Killing everything entering on sight is not RP. If you were killing them after talking to them, it would be.
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Such an evolution!!!!!!
That's just what I have always said....
There IS a RPG in Redding: crimes, summary executions, totalitarism.....
Here we have the weakest man of the server ... what a shame that he is french.
So Zozio I will use easy words for you: TTTLA never said that they were APK, we always said that we were "Lawyers" killing "Outlaws". That is RP (RP means Role Play), and outlaws are poeple who dont respect our Law (a RP Law, you remember RP means Role Play)
As we kill outlaws we are PK (PK means Player Killer) because outlaws are players.
So, when we said that we were Lawyers, that means that we were PK (Player Killer).
Moreover we always did TC (Town Control), and to do it, most of the time, we needed to kill player, so everybody should know that we are PK (Player Killer).
Damn it is very hard to explain something to a weak person.
But if you dont understand what I've just said to you Zozio, you can keep your opinion "TTTLA are PK nubz arf arf lol"
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So Zozio I will use easy words for you: TTTLA never said that they were APK, we always said that we were "Lawyers" killing "Outlaws". That is RP (RP means Role Play), and outlaws are poeple who dont respect our Law (a RP Law, you remember RP means Role Play)
Megalomany?
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Megalomany?
I think that your stupidity is pathological, dont come close to me please.
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What is cool when trolling zozio is that his answers don't make any sense. Which is really funny :D
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There IS a RPG in Redding: crimes, summary executions, totalitarism.....
ATM there's a place to settle the tree controling ape buisness.
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So when you guys are roleplaying, like, how do you know someone is a "Rouge" in the roleplaying fashion as to recognize them only by their player name?! Even when they have a dirty robe on hiding their identity? :P
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So when you guys are roleplaying, like, how do you know someone is a "Rouge" in the roleplaying fashion as to recognize them only by their player name?! Even when they have a dirty robe on hiding their identity? :P
Since when wearing a robe prevent to recognize someone's face? Name of a player is like his face. And you recognize it. Having a robe doesn't change anything, especially for policemen who won't just look at you from 50 meters.
Also, I don't think the dudes who come with robes and LSW in town really think in a Rp way "I hide my identity".
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Since when wearing a robe prevent to recognize someone's face?
Since logic entered the equation.
Name of a player is like his face. And you recognize it. Having a robe doesn't change anything, especially for policemen who won't just look at you from 50 meters.
how come? Are these policemen super duper omniscent badasses by some godly/ungodly means?
Also, I don't think the dudes who come with robes and LSW in town really think in a Rp way "I hide my identity".
All of the policemen (which consists of over 40+ players whether not they are or are not there at the time) and 15 militia are fully decked out in gear, why would ONE guy in a ROBE that just happens to have a high-powered gun in his hands make hiding one's identity tough? Especially if it's crowded with other neutrals.
Now unless he was doing something strange then yeah, suspicious. But if not.... :P
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Now unless he was doing something strange then yeah, suspicious. But if not.... :P
You should know everyone is very suspiscious when you're guarding a town in Fonline, especially if he is trying to hide his face. :P
how come? Are these policemen super duper omniscent badasses by some godly/ungodly means?
Looking closely at someone to see his face under what he wear is not what i would call a godly power.
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You should know everyone is very suspiscious when you're guarding a town in Fonline, especially if he is trying to hide his face. :P
But your roleplaying a very large town (Maybe not seem like ingame but by canon it is large) so one guy in robe with a gun isn't going to make everyone spaz out/piss their pants/run/shoot. Besides, like I said, unless he is doing something suspicious....
Looking closely at someone to see his face under what he wear is not what i would call a godly power.
He could easily make sure his hood is well over his face, either by making it too dark from inside to see or simply covered. Thus yes.... it seems they have a godly power.
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He could easily make sure his hood is well over his face, either by making it too dark from inside to see or simply covered. Thus yes.... it seems they have a godly power.
And it is the duty of every guards of a town like Redding to check his/her identity. It's not a town full of scum like NCR, troublemaker are recognized and shot here.
But anyway... This discussion is really pointless. We can find infinite RP counter argument. Are you really, you, a chosen, trying to claim that our RP is bad cause we shoot on sight our ennemies in Robes? It's really funny. Anyway, robes don't hide identity, that's a gameplay fact. The day dev implement invisible name when wearing robe, so yes, robes will hide identity in RP. Gameplay is the RP support, you can't claim something that is wrong in the game.
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And it is the duty of every guards of a town like Redding to check his/her identity. It's not a town full of scum like NCR, troublemaker are recognized and shot here.
but are you? I'm pretty sure you just shoot.
Are you really, you, a chosen, trying to claim that our RP is bad cause we shoot on sight our ennemies in Robes?
Are you really, you, making a stereotypical remark? It's really funny.
And to answer your question, yes, I am.
Anyway, robes don't hide identity, that's a gameplay fact. The day dev implement invisible name when wearing robe, so yes, robes will hide identity in RP.
I think i will put this into suggestion if it hasn't already... :P
Gameplay is the RP support, you can't claim something that is wrong in the game.
Although largely yes, the actual "RolePlay" is the character itself. If every single lawman in redding is triggerhappy against everyone then there is obviously something wrong here. What is there to fear so strongly? They have half the wasteland below the belt.
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That's a great idea about robes hiding identities, see where arguing gets us? :P
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Michaelh, before saying us how to do good RP, try to have your own RP, a different than : "I shot everybody, because I am a raider, and dont come to cry because wasteland is harsh" -> The poorest RP of the game.
More over when you kill somebody wearing a robe, how do you know Michaelh that this guy hiding is face is not a CS ? You cant know, so you criticize what you also do.
For the robes, as we are in a guarded town, we can say that the militia checks the face of poeple before entering in town. And you know, WWP have list where poeple are designed as troublemakers, a kind of wanted list, in the sheriff home.
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Michaelh how much experience you have about trying to uphold a society in tc town? You try to question, ridicule and criticize what wwp does yet you have no actual clue what we do and why. It's like talking about town control or pvp without ever trying it.
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Michaelh, before saying us how to do good RP, try to have your own RP, a different than : "I shot everybody, because I am a raider, and dont come to cry because wasteland is harsh" -> The poorest RP of the game.
I don't just shoot everyone, whenever I see I am alone with some guy I 75% time try to rob by force instead of shot. "give me your fucking shit or I'll blow your sorry ass away!"
More over when you kill somebody wearing a robe, how do you know Michaelh that this guy hiding is face is not a CS ? You cant know, so you criticize what you also do.
I don't care who this guy is I just kill him because as you said I am raider. ;)
For the robes, as we are in a guarded town, we can say that the militia checks the face of poeple before entering in town. And you know, WWP have list where poeple are designed as troublemakers, a kind of wanted list, in the sheriff home.
This works. ;D
Michaelh how much experience you have about trying to uphold a society in tc town? You try to question, ridicule and criticize what wwp does yet you have no actual clue what we do and why. It's like talking about town control or pvp without ever trying it.
I have had a couple of attempts similar to this, mostly on the down-low. You know that basement you guys would sometimes track me and a couple of my friends down to in east side; new reno? You maybe not have but other tttla have. Our roleplay was that we were some junkies who lived in that basement, and robbed people in other areas to get our fix. We would rob people, and either drop it off there or sell it all to the nearest drug seller.
See? I can make roleplay too. And guess what, every time i did this I would make friends in reno rather than ask a bunch of my CS friends to come.
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You know that basement you guys would sometimes track me and a couple of my friends down to in east side; new reno? You maybe not have but other tttla have. Our roleplay was that we were some junkies who lived in that basement, and robbed people in other areas to get our fix. We would rob people, and either drop it off there or sell it all to the nearest drug seller.
See? I can make roleplay too. And guess what, every time i did this I would make friends in reno rather than ask a bunch of my CS friends to come.
So basically your roleplay was about killing guys for makeshift reason. Nothing wrong with that, it's gameplay like any other but not similar as what wwp does. WWP isn't necessarily roleplay, getting along with people is a goal - no roleplay needed. So because you did some roleplay that didn't resemble the goal wwp was after doesn't mean that you understand what we're all about.
One thing I can confess: we had dumb rules previously. Treating players depending on their choice of faction was a mistake. We justified it by showing people that crimes and violations against Redding have consequences. It was fair rule and made perfect sense but did more harm than good in the end, too much time was spent on trying to figure out if someone was member of criminal gang. Criminal gang members refused to pay for the crimes their gangs had done and they had to be told to leave. We had full rights to demand payments, but it just didn't work out.
So in 22.4th we changed our rules to allow players to come regardless of their faction, as long as they didn't do anything bad with that character. For example reese had his pk chars and peaceful chars. Too bad players didn't get to enjoy this change of rules long since our enemies increased the frequency of their attacks.
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This topic slowly change to some kind of trolling bible.
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This topic slowly change to some kind of trolling bible.
I thing it was the goal of the topic ....
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I thing it was the goal of the topic ....
Stop "thinging" and start thinking.
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Stop "thinging" and start thinking.
What is this for smart sentence ?
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What is this for smart sentence ?
Datz work of:
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The difference between APK and PK lies in shooting bluesuits/low stuff/low level players.
In fact, since so many people get caught up in this apk/pk thing (hurr durr you are Anti Player Killer but you killed a player in tc so you are not Anti PK anymore durr) it's better to define it as Bluesuit Killers and Anti-Bluesuit Killers.
I'm aware that me and my statement will get trolled and flamed to death but the point is that todays' APK only kill people that are either known enemies or that look like trouble (eg an unknown player with metal armor and big gun on reno). It still lies in every players' hands if you spawn to kill that guy in metal armor or not, different gangs have different attitudes there.
What all APK gangs have in common is that they don't initiate a fight and don't go against players they don't know who are in lower gear/lower level.
And above all that, the law of the wasteland still stands. If you encounter a known APK guy, you don't have the "right" not to get shot to rely on. The wasteland is no constitutional state. However, in Redding you at least have the chance to get justice.
In other words, for the guy that has been playing for 2 weeks, hanging around ncr and crafting shotguns, APK and PK matters.
For everyone else who posts in this thread, it usually doesn't and it's just used a troll argument.
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The difference between APK and PK lies in shooting bluesuits/low stuff/low level players.
In fact, since so many people get caught up in this apk/pk thing (hurr durr you are Anti Player Killer but you killed a player in tc so you are not Anti PK anymore durr) it's better to define it as Bluesuit Killers and Anti-Bluesuit Killers.
I'm aware that me and my statement will get trolled and flamed to death but the point is that todays' APK only kill people that are either known enemies or that look like trouble (eg an unknown player with metal armor and big gun on reno). It still lies in every players' hands if you spawn to kill that guy in metal armor or not, different gangs have different attitudes there.
What all APK gangs have in common is that they don't initiate a fight and don't go against players they don't know who are in lower gear/lower level.
And above all that, the law of the wasteland still stands. If you encounter a known APK guy, you don't have the "right" not to get shot to rely on. The wasteland is no constitutional state. However, in Redding you at least have the chance to get justice.
In other words, for the guy that has been playing for 2 weeks, hanging around ncr and crafting shotguns, APK and PK matters.
For everyone else who posts in this thread, it usually doesn't and it's just used a troll argument.
Oh for now you just definitively conviced me with the GREAT difference between PK and APK.... :
If you have no mere the 70 hp no armor (even in leather) and no weapon (even a 10 mm) you're not suspect and can cross Redding in security....
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It should be the dream of each player to have a weak character with a bad build, unable to defedn himself etc....
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Why always when i see comment from Zozio, i have feeling that just is throwing shits out of his mouth ?
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Why always when i see comment from Zozio, i have feeling that just is throwing shits out of his mouth ?
It's not like he's the only one. -.-
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It's not like he's the only one. -.-
But he is only one like some fanatic ...
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Oh for now you just definitively conviced me with the GREAT difference between PK and APK.... :
If you have no mere the 70 hp no armor (even in leather) and no weapon (even a 10 mm) you're not suspect and can cross Redding in security....
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It should be the dream of each player to have a weak character with a bad build, unable to defedn himself etc....
more like, you didn't even notive that tnb hold the town when you got killed in redding.
aside from that, only that one paragraph where I referenced redding was meant to be about redding, obviously.
Anyway, I dont see why you would want to bring a 245hp ape in BA and avenger just to hangout and chat in redding. Seeing the same thing on a commercial preview also doesnt seem to be too inviting.
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WWP not exsist town is owned by chosen soldiers for what still all spam this topic ?
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WWP not exsist town is owned by chosen soldiers for what still all spam this topic ?
simple answer ..... yes its better trolling when they dont have the town trolololol.
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It's not like he's the only one. -.-
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But Zozio is the only one who is serious when he writes shit.
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Zozio is just stucked in this narrow minded PK/APK thingy, maybe someday he'll realise that it doesnt make any sense.
What is cool when trolling Zozio is that his answers don't make any sense. Which is really funny :D
Zozio I think that your stupidity is pathological, dont come close to me please.
Why always when i see comment from Zozio, i have feeling that just is throwing shits out of his mouth ?
...Zozio is the only one who is serious when he writes shit.
...but Zozio is only one like some fanatic ...
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3169/beztytuupip.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/beztytuupip.jpg/)
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Why always when i see comment from Zozio, i have feeling that just is throwing shits out of his mouth ?
I don't understand why you're not already banned with all your insults.
Of course I report an insult.
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I don't understand why you're not already banned with all your insults.
Of course I report an insult.
(http://i-beta.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/4/1/3/39413.jpg?v=1)
TAKE CARE HOLO! CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!
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I don't understand why you're not already banned with all your insults.
Of course I report an insult.
He didnt insult you, he shared us his feeling about what you write.
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When there is little happening in game people hang out in forums i guess 8)
And yea, WWP killed players, means they are one of two PK/APK? Everybody is free for their own opinion. Zozio thinks WWP is PK, ok, if WWP killed him he has right to it. For me, WWP is WWP ;)
Oh yeah, and what does Anti-PK mean anyways? I mean, how can you anti player kill someone? ;D In my opinion its just that some factions have their ideology. Some are fanatics, some are trying to be civilized, someother acts like a civilized tribe, some like raiders someother like xenofobs and so on..
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Y'know I wish people could just shut up and play, and quit trying to police eachother when really no actual rules are being broken. Players shouldn't police other players and force their own ideals on them, this isn't the real world it's a GAME, Player Killing is a game feature, if you don't like it that's what protected towns are for. You should always take caution when in an unprotected town, if you die and lose everything all I have to say is B-O-O H-O-O, you should have been prepared to lose your equipment if you've been playing long enough to take part in Town Control, or general PvP.
If you're just mad that they killed you, get over it, it's not like you've been shot/burned/explodificated in real life, trust me, that hurts a lot more, and there are no spawn camps in the real world.
Take a chill pill and keep playing, it's not that hard to get high-end items if you create a strategy that generally benefits your faction(IE: Gathering Tents placed near mines).
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Take a chill pill and keep playing.
/thread I'd say
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Y'know I wish people could just shut up and play, and quit trying to police eachother when really no actual rules are being broken. Players shouldn't police other players and force their own ideals on them, this isn't the real world it's a GAME, Player Killing is a game feature, if you don't like it that's what protected towns are for. You should always take caution when in an unprotected town, if you die and lose everything all I have to say is B-O-O H-O-O, you should have been prepared to lose your equipment if you've been playing long enough to take part in Town Control, or general PvP.
If you're just mad that they killed you, get over it, it's not like you've been shot/burned/explodificated in real life, trust me, that hurts a lot more, and there are no spawn camps in the real world.
Take a chill pill and keep playing, it's not that hard to get high-end items if you create a strategy that generally benefits your faction(IE: Gathering Tents placed near mines).
this isnt the real world
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Y'know I wish people could just shut up and play, and quit trying to police eachother when really no actual rules are being broken. Players shouldn't police other players and force their own ideals on them, this isn't the real world it's a GAME, Player Killing is a game feature, if you don't like it that's what protected towns are for. You should always take caution when in an unprotected town, if you die and lose everything all I have to say is B-O-O H-O-O, you should have been prepared to lose your equipment if you've been playing long enough to take part in Town Control, or general PvP.
If you're just mad that they killed you, get over it, it's not like you've been shot/burned/explodificated in real life, trust me, that hurts a lot more, and there are no spawn camps in the real world.
Take a chill pill and keep playing, it's not that hard to get high-end items if you create a strategy that generally benefits your faction(IE: Gathering Tents placed near mines).
gotta say that this seems to sum it up ;)
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Y'know I wish people could just shut up and play, and quit trying to police eachother when really no actual rules are being broken. Players shouldn't police other players and force their own ideals on them, this isn't the real world it's a GAME, Player Killing is a game feature, if you don't like it that's what protected towns are for. You should always take caution when in an unprotected town, if you die and lose everything all I have to say is B-O-O H-O-O, you should have been prepared to lose your equipment if you've been playing long enough to take part in Town Control, or general PvP.
If you're just mad that they killed you, get over it, it's not like you've been shot/burned/explodificated in real life, trust me, that hurts a lot more, and there are no spawn camps in the real world.
Take a chill pill and keep playing, it's not that hard to get high-end items if you create a strategy that generally benefits your faction(IE: Gathering Tents placed near mines).
You can easily spawn camp in the real world...go to a hospital nursery. ;D
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No, that isn't the real world, that's Grand Theft Auto.
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Real world enough for you?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5579383.ece
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/12/man-kills-eight-china-nursery
(Btw i still don't see why this thread is going on, judging by the poll itself, almost 50% of the people are not attacked for no reason at WWP, of course that's with a margin of error for those that just say fuck no or fuck yes based on how they like the idea. WWP was a pretty safe time, any other time you went into an unguarded see if you have a 40-50% chance of not being murdered.)
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Spawn Camping is fun!
Only illegal with mercs set to autofire to exploit transition lag.
(So spawn camping with manually-controlled mercs would be ok. Or just keep them back a bit.)
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WWP is dead now. Don't understand why there are 12 pages.
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I don't understand your comment... WWP is not dead.
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I don't understand your comment... WWP is not dead.
not many of you left :/
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This thread is over now.