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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Uzaykeki on April 03, 2011, 11:20:53 pm
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can you tell me where can i find this rifle? which places?
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Gank city patrols in a area you don't care if you can't travel in or go in the city anymore.
Unity Patrols near BH have NPC's with Assault Rifles. IIRC, the African American Miners near Redding sometimes have Assault Rifles. Sometimes they have sledgehammers, but not always.
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best place for assault rifles is gecko reactor. Ghouls have them at 0% completely new, while in random encounters these are in very poor condition. Also these ghouls have just about 60 hp each, so they are really weak targets. For killing all them in reactor you receive like 7-8 assault rifles (2550 caps each), 3 10mm smgs, and 2 shotguns, and 1 10mm pistol :>
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Encounter bootleggers and "the gang" anywhere between Reno and Den. Note this will not ever be 0%det, and you'll need some force (here: FS + BROF +2x AB + P90C + JHP) to sage incoming units so that they'd deal no damage to you. Good thing is that you will also find combat shotguns which can sell on average for $1400 to compensate your efforts.
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you could just get SG 2 and fucking build them
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you could just get SG 2 and fucking build them
PvE is much more entertaining than going to a mine, then click-click-clicking to make metal parts, then click-click-clicking again to mine more ore at the mine, then click-click-clicking again to go back and finally make one gun.
(Not to mention taking the time to repeat the process at an HQ mine for the HQ materials.)
...and "the gang" anywhere between Reno and Den
Gang encounters don't have Assault Rifles, I'm pretty sure.
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why should i craft if i can loot? why should we live in peace on wasteland? kill everything gets on your way, always get what you need, loot everything and get rich.
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best place for assault rifles is gecko reactor. Ghouls have them at 0% completely new, while in random encounters these are in very poor condition. Also these ghouls have just about 60 hp each, so they are really weak targets. For killing all them in reactor you receive like 7-8 assault rifles (2550 caps each), 3 10mm smgs, and 2 shotguns, and 1 10mm pistol :>
You just HAD to blurt that out to EVERYONE to see on forum didn't you? Watch, the ghouls will be removed within a few days.
>:C
Oh well... It couldn't be kept secret forever.
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Dude everyone knew bout gecko, but it's not a general character area, well unless you're like uber lucky. But yeah Crafting isn't a bad option except it is harder than getting them from drops. Also if you don't care about Hub rep, the patrols drop them. Might get real lucky near Necropolis and Hub to get an encounter with TON's of ghouls and a few patrol's and wait to loot the remains. But don't hold your breath.
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Dude everyone knew bout gecko, but it's not a general character area, well unless you're like uber lucky.
Yes everyone knew about it, yet until vedaras spilled the beans the ghouls remained, now they're gone. ::) (Yeah I just went to look, it would seem I spoke too late). Now only a shotgun and a 10mm pistol, three spike knuckles, and some knife ghouls remain.
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PvE is much more entertaining than going to a mine, then click-click-clicking to make metal parts, then click-click-clicking again to mine more ore at the mine, then click-click-clicking again to go back and finally make one gun.
(Not to mention taking the time to repeat the process at an HQ mine for the HQ materials.)
Gang encounters don't have Assault Rifles, I'm pretty sure.
Anybody and one friend can make an FN FAL in one trip. Anyone alone can make an Assault Rifle in about thirty minutes and with a friend they can make two a trip. Yeah, it's boring, but you get the reward of having made it with the bonus that you don't get a wasteland gun with six broken-count and 70% Deterioration.
I guess it's just efficiency vs. fun. Or rather, what one perceives as fun.
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Yes everyone knew about it, yet until vedaras spilled the beans the ghouls remained, now they're gone. ::)
Dude what are you doing here? You miss the concept of beta testing, you are supposed to report such things, not keep in secret and hope noone else finds out.
ANYTHING that gives you suspiciously large pile of good items in very easy, repeatable way.
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Anybody and one friend can make an FN FAL in one trip. Anyone alone can make an Assault Rifle in about thirty minutes and with a friend they can make two a trip. Yeah, it's boring, but you get the reward of having made it with the bonus that you don't get a wasteland gun with six broken-count and 70% Deterioration.
I guess it's just efficiency vs. fun. Or rather, what one perceives as fun.
You can also go halfway by upgrading busted ass assault rifles you find into extended mag ones, and get a fresh gun, with a bigger magazine in the bargain.
As it stands, the resources are often spent on guns that are inconvenient to get in encounters, or almost impossible or on your TC viable armors.
If it suddenly became relatively difficult to craft the combat armors, it might change the dynamic, although it's hard to tell just how.
We can't say how it will play out until whenever we see a revamped crafting and combat system like's been talked about a bit.
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Brainbots in Glow!
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You can also go halfway by upgrading busted ass assault rifles you find into extended mag ones, and get a fresh gun, with a bigger magazine in the bargain.
The broken count for such a weapon doesn't change.
So although it may looks like a new gun it isn't.
It will deteriorate a lot faster, sometimes 1% per shot.
Try selling it to a trader, you'll see the price is less than for an upgraded crafted assault rifle.
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You just HAD to blurt that out to EVERYONE to see on forum didn't you? Watch, the ghouls will be removed within a few days.
>:C
Oh well... It couldn't be kept secret forever.
after wipe npcs in towns will be unlootable as i heard, so this aint a problem anyway
and i believe they aint removed. Just that npcs guns respawn a little slower than npcs themselves so you have to wait. Furthermore i think people in this session are so rich that removing few assault rifles from game would solve nothing.
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They're removed, my client has finally decided to work
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Yes everyone knew about it, yet until vedaras spilled the beans the ghouls remained, now they're gone. ::) (Yeah I just went to look, it would seem I spoke too late). Now only a shotgun and a 10mm pistol, three spike knuckles, and some knife ghouls remain.
Good betatester you are, mommy should be proud.
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Critters using AK-112 known as Assault Rifle,
Brainbot - easy to kill with AP ammo, but it's only in the Glow where radiation is very high. This critters have 0% det. rifles.
Hub Patrolman - Combat Armored, so use AP ammo as well. You can find them around Hub. Shooting them affects reputation drop in the Hub.
Vault City Patrolman - Combat Armored, use AP ammo. They can be find around VC. Shooting them affect repuation drop in Vault City.
Prospector - the easiest to kill critter who carry Assault Rifle. Non-armored so use JHP ammo. You can find 'em around Redding. Shooting them affect reputation drop in Redding.
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Dude what are you doing here? You miss the concept of beta testing, you are supposed to report such things, not keep in secret and hope noone else finds out.
ANYTHING that gives you suspiciously large pile of good items in very easy, repeatable way.
The Ghouls at Gecko has been my only exception when it comes to betatesting. I didn't see it as that huge of a gamebreaker. You can get a shitload more loot by just standing in encounters hunting mobs, considering the huge respawn time for npcs + weapon spawning. Btw, they aren't that easy to kill, they burst almost all the time, so you kill them once, come back, "SPLAT", again "SPLAT", until you get lucky and they don't burst your prolly dead once you spawn in + client crash, so no, its not that easy, although they are npcs after all so they don't loot your stuff. But there's always the possibilty of a player coming to loot it. :P
Good betatester you are, mommy should be proud.
Coming from the guy who doesn't even play anymore.
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The broken count for such a weapon doesn't change.
So although it may looks like a new gun it isn't.
It will deteriorate a lot faster, sometimes 1% per shot.
Try selling it to a trader, you'll see the price is less than for an upgraded crafted assault rifle.
I knew about the prices thing. I wasn't really advocating the technique as a way to make more money easily, I was just lazy, and perhaps assumed people knew about it. As I said, lazy.
I didn't actually know about the break count remaining the same, and the deterioration rate either. That's good to know.
Even so, in my experience, they either get lost after a certain point due to unavoidable, catastrophic circumstances, or failing that, replaced with another broken up rifle that's been repaired or upgraded.
I do agree with you that certain advantages ensue from making your guns, but I wish it was more necessary. As it is, characters that use the best guns only worry about the gun breaking entirely, and suffer relatively few consequences from using a shoddy, half broken gun. I really think that penalties should exist independent of whether your skill is so low that you miss frequently. Something like what games like Stalker and the 3d fallout games do might be good. Guns have condition ratings, and busted ass guns misfire, outright miss, and generally perform less well.
I really think it would make having a gun crafted by an actual person, or failing that, repaired by an actual person, ought to matter. People could make do with shitty guns, looted from drug addled raiders, generally accepting them as "good enough" to gank vulnerable enemies like low level players, and slaughter vermin, and such.
If you wanted an advantage, or not to be at a disadvantage to well equipped players, you would have to have something to do with crafters, whether it was buying stuff produced by them by some means in towns, or as part of a gang.
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PvE is much more entertaining than going to a mine, then click-click-clicking to make metal parts, then click-click-clicking again to mine more ore at the mine, then click-click-clicking again to go back and finally make one gun.
Agree with this wholeheartedly. Mining in particular just exists in a vacuum. I'd much rather PvP/PvE was how you got crafting materials. I like scavenging for Junk and making BBs because it's something you do while doing other things. You don't suddenly decide RIGHT CRAFTING TIME, strip down to your PJs, drop everything off at your tent, and then hi-ho it's off to work you go.
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Agree with this wholeheartedly. Mining in particular just exists in a vacuum. I'd much rather PvP/PvE was how you got crafting materials. I like scavenging for Junk and making BBs because it's something you do while doing other things. You don't suddenly decide RIGHT CRAFTING TIME, strip down to your PJs, drop everything off at your tent, and then hi-ho it's off to work you go.
Well, there isn't any reason you can't use that strategy getting junk. I used to do that before I was tough enough to shoot things in the face to make it more efficient. And people do assertively mine, by taking equipment that can kill people, and going in a group. If you want to use your nice, higher quality mats, you have to go somewhere too, and unless your gang owns the town, that's not the town. And if you do, you have to fight for it. It could be more involved though, I agree.
If you get a bunker, you don't even have to leave the bunker to make things, except to get wood and junk. My gang's little operation is even in a place you never see people. The only obstacle is shooting molerats in the face, and that's actually a plus for grinding experience for many. Granted, what you make isn't your fancier guns, but a lot of people don't like bothering with making those anyway. A lot of my time in that bunker has often been making yet another batch of ammunition.
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You don't suddenly decide RIGHT CRAFTING TIME, strip down to your PJs, drop everything off at your tent, and then hi-ho it's off to work you go.
I do!
You can time the mining and crafting as intervals during hunting, switching alts when cooldowns are maxed/good xp spot is reached.
Rinse and repeat.