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Title: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Cerredencia on April 02, 2011, 01:00:06 pm
Hi there,

Im trying to withdraw some caps from the FLC in the Hub and it keeps telling me that they dont have enough caps in their reserves... my interest rate is also at 0%

Is there some sort of work around for this? Thanks
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Lexx on April 02, 2011, 01:22:17 pm
The workaround is that people start to place money on the banks again.
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: JovankaB on April 02, 2011, 01:40:00 pm
And why would they do that? Banks don't offer anything.
Maybe if you implemented tracking and tents weren't 100% safe...

Free advice: unless you want to have problems with withdrawing DO NOT put caps into bank. There is plenty of people waiting for someone to put caps, so they can withdraw their own (and there are people with MILLIONS in bank accounts). Use tent or faction base instead.
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: bubbles on April 02, 2011, 02:21:06 pm
The workaround is that people start to place money on the banks again.
this is not happening.

And why would they do that? Banks don't offer anything.
Maybe if you implemented tracking and tents weren't 100% safe...
+1 for jovanka.
wasteland shouldnt be safe. imo now its getting more and more similar to hello kitty online ;p
its way 2 player friendly.

anyways it seems that we have to wait for wipe.
there is plenty of problems that have been promised to be solved after wipe/big update.
so we have to be patient
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Lexx on April 02, 2011, 04:24:51 pm
Why is the game now way "2" player friendly? I can't remember that we changed anything with tents and bases since they have been introduced.
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: cannotspace on April 02, 2011, 04:59:52 pm
The workaround is that people start to place money on the banks again.

Yeah, great plan you guys had

-Banks get broke
-Everyone withdraws at any chance they get

And then your fix is
"Let's hope some people put money there, so others withdraw and they lose it too"
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Kilgore on April 02, 2011, 05:52:58 pm
Instead of making a deposit, you could throw your money at the front of the bank, on the ground. The result will be perfectly the same.
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Lexx on April 02, 2011, 05:53:00 pm
It's not my "fix" it's the only way to solve this issue ingame.

But as nobody will do it anyway, you'll have to wait for the server wipe.
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: cannotspace on April 02, 2011, 05:57:44 pm
It's not my "fix" it's the only way to solve this issue ingame.

But as nobody will do it anyway, you'll have to wait for the server wipe.

But you guys did mention that without the interest rate players would soon start using the bank and it would be solved..
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Lexx on April 02, 2011, 06:01:57 pm
I don't know who said that- I know that I didn't. Not going to touch the economy, it's really not my playground.
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Badger on April 02, 2011, 06:13:30 pm
I don't care about the banks, but what's to stop someone turning off interest on all the banks, spawning a few billion caps and putting them in an account? With the intention of allowing everyone else to withdraw from that cash supply, that is. Without interest, I'm not sure how the problem could repeat itself.
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: cannotspace on April 02, 2011, 06:28:11 pm
I don't care about the banks, but what's to stop someone turning off interest on all the banks, spawning a few billion caps and putting them in an account? With the intention of allowing everyone else to withdraw from that cash supply, that is. Without interest, I'm not sure how the problem could repeat itself.

Posted that in all topics related to this bank issue and on irc

I think what they're trying to say is "the players' greed caused this, players need to deal with it"
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Kilgore on April 02, 2011, 06:50:26 pm
Players cannot deal with it, because they can't spawn millions of money on some account "out of the air". There are 2 possible ways to make banks usable again:

- GM makes an account and deposits there a large ammount of money (per each bank),
- all accounts have their balance reset.

First solution will make some inflation for some time, while the second will make some people whine about losing money they wouldn't be able to get back anyway. Both of them will make banks usable again, though with 0% interest they would be as popular as in old times.
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Solar on April 02, 2011, 06:56:58 pm
But you guys did mention that without the interest rate players would soon start using the bank and it would be solved..

Eventually it will. The speed at which it restores itself depends on how much is deposited. There is more cash on the server than could ever reasonably be spent - if all of it was deposited now the system would work again until the wipe.
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Michaelh139 on April 02, 2011, 07:04:48 pm
Eventually it will. The speed at which it restores itself depends on how much is deposited. There is more cash on the server than could ever reasonably be spent - if all of it was deposited now the system would work again until the wipe.
Just wondering, do you or believe any other dev, actually thinks any player on the server would be willing to do this?
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: cogliostro on April 02, 2011, 08:12:01 pm
Just wondering, do you or believe any other dev, actually thinks any player on the server would be willing to do this?

It is actually happening now at times, I dunno If you can realize of this If you have withdrawn every caps on your account already.
Title: Re: Unable to withdraw caps
Post by: Michaelh139 on April 03, 2011, 03:30:19 pm
It is actually happening now at times, I dunno If you can realize of this If you have withdrawn every caps on your account already.
Those are newbs who put their caps in the bank every so often not realizing what's gonna happen to it.