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Title: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: omens18pl on January 31, 2010, 06:26:27 pm
Please help where i can learn profession big guns 3.
What skills are needed .
If it isn't avible tell me where i can buy new LSW i meane detoriation 0% net repaired.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Raegann on January 31, 2010, 07:13:20 pm
Learn nowhere.
LSW comes from encounters with NPC - somehow damaged. Perhaps if it comes from cave, it could be new, but never saw there any.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: omens18pl on January 31, 2010, 09:19:55 pm
So tell me  why i have new one?
My friend killed pk with one.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Gruik on January 31, 2010, 09:45:06 pm
Because somebody repairs it...
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: maorys on February 01, 2010, 01:07:46 am
new ones mean detoriation 0% and not been repaired yet. seen that LSW somebody is cheatin here or what?
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Hertz on February 16, 2010, 03:56:19 am
i have heard recently that it works and you need to get into BoS to get it.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Tyler on February 16, 2010, 05:20:39 am
Last I heard BOS wasnt joinable yet
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Solar on February 16, 2010, 02:15:34 pm
Last I heard BOS wasnt joinable yet

Don't believe everything you hear.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Iceforce on February 16, 2010, 06:25:00 pm
Don't believe everything you hear.
So... you can join BoS?
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Surf on February 16, 2010, 07:51:22 pm
No.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Solar on February 17, 2010, 01:34:25 pm
You should be able to, yes. Seen a few people successfully join now.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: gordulan on February 17, 2010, 03:30:34 pm
why wasn't I informed?
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: UbiValkin on February 17, 2010, 03:47:43 pm
why wasn't I informed?

be-be-be-be
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: gordulan on February 17, 2010, 03:49:45 pm
so, what is needed to join bos then?
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Solar on February 17, 2010, 05:15:11 pm
Talking to the BoS guard
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: gordulan on February 17, 2010, 06:06:56 pm
i mean, any special level i have to be, and any skills i have to have on a certain level?
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Solar on February 17, 2010, 06:10:15 pm
Not at the moment, *eventually* it should be a bit of a longer process, but I just stuck something simple in to get them on the server (since they'd been waiting ages)
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: gordulan on February 17, 2010, 06:14:12 pm
thanks solar, now don't add requirements until i can get energy expert lvl 3  ;)
always wanted to be part of the brotherhood of steel, even i i do not get a complimentary power armour for joining, btw, will i be able to command one of thos huge loonies, always wanted a right hand man/woman in power armour, i bet that'd scare the bajeesus out of prospective pkers
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Keskow on February 18, 2010, 06:25:33 pm
The way to get level 3 Big Gun:

You have to quit you're faction.
Take 15 Rocket AP and talk to the left guy at the BoS.
After go to level 3 and give 4500 caps to Peter.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: gordulan on February 18, 2010, 06:35:48 pm
15 ap rockets, that seems a lot to join the BOS, but the quit faction this is a real no brainer...
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Solar on February 18, 2010, 07:59:52 pm
thanks solar, now don't add requirements until i can get energy expert lvl 3  ;)
always wanted to be part of the brotherhood of steel, even i i do not get a complimentary power armour for joining, btw, will i be able to command one of thos huge loonies, always wanted a right hand man/woman in power armour, i bet that'd scare the bajeesus out of prospective pkers

Pretty much all there is available is entering, getting either BG 3 or Armourer 3 and ... that's pretty much it for now. They are just on in a basic form now to enable BG3 to be there.

We do intend to have missions available from these factions in time and BoS ones would involve palling up with some PA armoured guys, in all probability though.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Raegann on February 18, 2010, 08:27:05 pm
Oh, what a shame, I thought BG3 will never work before another wipe, so now I think I don't have skills for getting it (lvl 21). :(

Are the requirements for having Big Guns lvl 3:
Repair 120% + Science 90% + Big Guns 135% + ST >6 + AG >6?
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Solar on February 18, 2010, 08:39:40 pm
They're whatever they are in the wiki, I haven't changed them.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: silverq on February 19, 2010, 06:11:07 pm
hello, I heard that we can replace the 15 Rocket AP by some 5mm AP for joining the BOS, is it true ? And if it is, how much ammo do we need ?
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Solar on February 19, 2010, 07:25:15 pm
Hm, 15 rockets should be a lot higher :P Wonder why its not updated yet.

But in answer to your question, yes you can use 5mm AP, it depends on your Charisma. Its ~120 if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Izual on February 19, 2010, 07:34:36 pm
150 for 10 Charisma.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: silverq on February 19, 2010, 07:35:24 pm
then can a char with 3 charisma join the BOS with 5mm AP ? I ask because it's the only thing we can craft right now.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Attero on February 19, 2010, 07:36:49 pm
Hm, 15 rockets should be a lot higher :P Wonder why its not updated yet.

But in answer to your question, yes you can use 5mm AP, it depends on your Charisma. Its ~120 if I remember correctly.
or 3+2 ?

till marked wont get richer with BG3 crafters AP ammo is rare..


Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Alvarez on February 21, 2010, 12:22:45 pm
then can a char with 3 charisma join the BOS with 5mm AP ? I ask because it's the only thing we can craft right now.

No, the guard will say that for 10 AP rockets he will MERELY CONSIDER your appliance. The problem of course is, AP rockets can only be produced by people in BoS faction, so they are making a fortune now.

BTW, i believe that BoS will grow very fast, since its healthy for reputation and placed near the infrastructure, unlike Enclave.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Izual on February 21, 2010, 12:25:33 pm
I updated the wiki :
http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Brotherhood_of_Steel_faction

And the quest to enter BoS with exact informations and details :
http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Talk_to_the_guard_to_be_able_to_become_an_Initiate
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: UbiValkin on February 21, 2010, 12:33:28 pm
I don't like this: "Automatically make other players losing BoS reputation (-150 per kill) when those players kill the Initiate player."

So, if he is a loser PK, who didn't kill you with 1 shot, and then you eye-shot him you'll get -150? omg
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Alvarez on February 21, 2010, 04:38:41 pm
By the way, are workbenches in BoS inoperable by intention? Or is it a bug?
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: gordulan on February 21, 2010, 04:48:51 pm
would a double dose of mentats work it you nly want to give 5mm ?
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Alvarez on February 21, 2010, 04:54:16 pm
would a double dose of mentats work it you nly want to give 5mm ?

If you have 6CH in the end, so yes.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: bipboy on February 22, 2010, 02:11:22 pm
If you have 6CH in the end, so yes.

6 or 7, wiki says below and above not equal
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Solar on February 22, 2010, 02:15:39 pm
By the way, are workbenches in BoS inoperable by intention? Or is it a bug?

Probably don't have the script attatched yet. Eventually you will need these workbenches to craft BoS CA, so they will need to be operable eventually.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: silverq on February 22, 2010, 07:26:49 pm
Probably don't have the script attatched yet. Eventually you will need these workbenches to craft BoS CA, so they will need to be operable eventually.

oh no please just let it craftable at bases.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Alvarez on February 22, 2010, 08:15:08 pm
oh no please just let it craftable at bases.

Hey, any blueshirted Brother or Sister is allowed to craft in safety!
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: gordulan on February 23, 2010, 10:13:25 am
well, making BA only craftable in the BOS seems like an idea, but it would of course encourage even more alting, therefore taking up valuable server resources, i mean, we already need to be a part of raiders to use the extended workbench, seems like a dumb idea just because of the server getting yet a new wave of BOS mechanic alts...
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Solar on February 23, 2010, 01:12:39 pm
This kind of thing will be extended, with various things added to discourage using alts just to use the NPC factions as a crafting tool for alts.

Of course, I totally see why they are with the NPC factions in their unfinished state at the moment, but this should change.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Raegann on February 23, 2010, 07:09:19 pm
Some people say, they can't learn BG lvl 3, although meeting minimum requirements. (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=1993.0) Can someone meeting just the minimum (120% Repair, 90% Science, 135% Big Guns, 7 Strength, 7 Agility) confirm, that he could actually learn it at BoS bunker? Or at least confirm the minimum stats needed? I will probably have higher BG skill but I would take science and repair just sufficient to get the profession, so..
Also drugs - f.e. Nuka-Cola (+1 AG written in wiki) - will work, if I have just 6 AG? Thanks for any answer, I just want to make sure I won't miss the chance like with my first big gunner, who doesn't have high enough repair on lvl 21 (no more mistakes, cause it would make me really angry I invested time in another char without reason :p). So any info would be appreciated, just soon enough until I reach the lvl when there is no chance to raise missing stat/ skill.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: silverq on February 25, 2010, 11:42:06 pm
Some people say, they can't learn BG lvl 3, although meeting minimum requirements.
 (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=1993.0)

happened to me once. Then it turned out that because I have learnt professions 3 times (like small guns lvl 1, small gun lvl 2 then armorer lvl1 lol). So if u already meet the requirements and that you've just learn professions for 2 times, thats fine.
Title: Re: Where i can learn big guns 3
Post by: Raegann on February 25, 2010, 11:43:58 pm
happened to me once. Then it turned out that because I have learnt professions 3 times (like small guns lvl 1, small gun lvl 2 then armorer lvl1 lol). So if u already meet the requirements and that you've just learn professions for 2 times, thats fine.
I hope so, thanks anyway. Then there is only one thing left - the teacher at 3rd floor back in-game to give it a try. :)