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Title: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Vindict on March 02, 2011, 12:13:12 pm
I have a simple suggestion: make all player-made locations ( tents, bases ) visible for everyone, if they come near it, until the next wipe.

reasons: wasteland is not harsh enough, there is a huge mess with caps right now, people lost all their life savings and became very, very pissed off. the rich have millions and the poor have nothing. poverty, hunger and frustration coused them to search for food, goods and caps all over the wasteland. people became so desperate that now they dare to enter abondoned camps and heavily guarded strongholds.

and yes, this is a serious suggestion. let's try it for some time for the sake of betatesting.

what do you think?
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Wipe on March 02, 2011, 12:15:49 pm
I see this suggestion part of usual "afsum ideas before the wipe" (even if it's not happening) and doomed to fail. But. Let it go.
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Vindict on March 02, 2011, 12:34:00 pm
I didin't realize there is a usual "afsum ideas before the wipe" thing.

doomed to fail? fail in what? I think it would be interesting to see and participate in. Many players decide not to play during the last months before wipe, because it gets boring. something like this would spice up the game and give us a view on how the game would work if nobody had a safe place to store stuff.

If you believe it's bad, at least say why.
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: HertogJan on March 02, 2011, 12:36:42 pm
I think it will lead to this:

The rich have millions and the poor have nothing.
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Vindict on March 02, 2011, 12:41:59 pm
Yes, probably. but we already have that. so it's not a disadventage.
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: HertogJan on March 02, 2011, 12:48:03 pm
Yes, probably. but we already have that. so it's not a disadventage.

It will result in all the poor people not playing anymore as they can't keep their property safe. What's the fun in doing something when it will result in having to start it over again and again and again ...
Less people will also mean that part of the rich factions will stop playing.
An empty wasteland might indeed be more realistic, it will be more boring too.
Not to mention rich factions simply add a shitload of mercs at the entrances to their bases resulting in them being pretty much unconquerable.
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 02, 2011, 12:48:50 pm
Rich factions can buy tons of mercs to protect their places.  Poor cant.  So this is only gonna make it worse.....
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: OskaRus on March 02, 2011, 01:54:10 pm
anyway u can make storage_alt1,2,3.....zillion. Log them off on WM and nobody can get to your staff anyway. It just bring more inconvenience.
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Graf on March 02, 2011, 02:10:13 pm
I have a simple suggestion: make all player-made locations ( tents, bases ) visible for everyone, if they come near it, until the next wipe.
This could be done only in case, if the bases will get some security system (as it was planned a long time before). Moreover, if you'll be able to see ALL BASES and TENTS, that'll be just hard or impossible to enter most of them, coz the biggest part of them are located in a similar places (eg. around NCR, Hub, VC)
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Andr3aZ on March 02, 2011, 02:17:47 pm
Would be interesting to see, but i think it would be the same as it is now just with bases and tents overun. I would rather suggest for the future : tent only visible to the creator and base visible to everyone, so baseguarding would finally have a meaning, but oh well i can see a shared LOL-this-is-our-base-char-Alt that would use a tent to store the complete belongings of the gang. Anyway i feel like this very much :

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Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Vindict on March 02, 2011, 02:19:59 pm
okay, maybe not the best idea ever. but don't you think that unfindable bases are boring? it would be interesting if there was a way to find them somehow. I started playing after tracking was removed so I don't know how it worked, but I wish I could see it in game.
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Andr3aZ on March 02, 2011, 02:23:03 pm
I started playing after tracking was removed so I don't know how it worked, but I wish I could see it in game.

As far as i know it never really worked
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: JovankaB on March 02, 2011, 02:29:27 pm
Great idea that would cause hundreds of 10 ST mule alts to appear...
Won't make wasteland any more harsh, just more lame.
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Imprezobus on March 02, 2011, 02:30:16 pm
personaly I think it is the best idea I have readed so far in this section. Of course it should work only in circa. last two days before wipe. This way we could really see whats gonna happen if the bases would be findable, and the game would have so much spice inside that I wouldnt be surprised if last two days would have 500+ people online.

Also, bout this idea... Make those bases invisible but enterable. That would be even funnier :D
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: LeMark on March 02, 2011, 03:35:24 pm
Great idea that would cause hundreds of 10 ST mule alts to appear...
Won't make wasteland any more harsh, just more lame.


True.
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Izual on March 02, 2011, 03:41:44 pm
It won't be done "now", maybe it will be done during pre-wipe madness if feature allowing this is already in game - if not, I doubt devs will spend their time to code this :P But anyway, we'll take that in account when we'll set up battle plan of pre-wipe madness.

Closed.
Title: Re: ANARCHY !!!!
Post by: Wipe on March 02, 2011, 04:02:42 pm
If you believe it's bad, at least say why.

I think posts above explains it all :)

Some note from me - we already simulated such situation at the end of one last sessions. Not by making bases visible, but by clearing all bases from all stuff. Different methods, same results - people didn't visited bases, cos there was nothing interesting there, and moved to cities. After having fun with daily killing parties in New Reno, players started to log in just to check if world already exploded or not. And logged out.

We tried that. It will work only if we know that end is near... this day is still far, far away :)