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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Kozmas on February 28, 2011, 09:57:48 am
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I'm new to this game, it's awesome so far, but I was wondering. What are the chances Bethesda takes action against this game and tries to shut it down? Nintendo got pissed and took down Pokemon Online, which was a real shame. I wouldn't want to see the same happen to this.
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I think that there is no reason for this.
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It's a legitimate question. It's not like I'm trying to troll or anything.
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I think thats the reason devs cant make any game rewards or other ways of payments other than donations. As a free project with code made completely by fans and fallout data files on clinet side only it is safe from any law danger.
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Well, that's good, I wouldn't want to see this game come to an end by douche bags that wouldn't even make a dime from taking it down anyway. I looked all over the forums before I asked the question. I'm surprised that no one has asked it before.
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Well, that's good, I wouldn't want to see this game come to an end by douche bags that wouldn't even make a dime from taking it down anyway. I looked all over the forums before I asked the question. I'm surprised that no one has asked it before.
No, but everyone wanted special prizes for donations, what's lawtechnically dangerous for FOnline, because that's actually earning money with Bethesda' copyrighted material.
Technically, if everything were created from scratch and had no relation to Fallout whatsoever, Rotators could earn money with it...
But Glutton Creeper' Exodus is a indeed completely different case.
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What's interesting is the similarity with the 'Silver Lining' game.
It's a fan made sequel to the King's Quest series.
Vivendi gave the developers a license for none commercial use.
When Activision bought Vivendi they withdrew the license and order the project to be halted.
The Silver Lining has been released now as Activision came back on their descision and gave them a license for none commercial use.
I'm not sure who holds what rights on Fallout, but both Bethesda and Interplay have rights to Fallout.
Interplay has the rights for an MMO game, so they can threaten FOnline.
I think Bethesda has the rights to Fallout universe, so they also form a threat.
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Its technically a mod, you need to own F2 to play it, so you payed money to bethesa (or better: interplay). As the rest of the data is obtainable for free it shouldnt be a problem if nobody wants money for usage of Fallout based stuff.
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I personally think, While Interplay still has the rights to the mmo, and that Bethesda is busy with them. It won't have a problem as is. I think Bethesda would be the one who could shut this mmo down, As they own the IP. And Bethesda obviously doesn't care much for the old fallout games. So as long as we don't use anything from F3 and FNV as well as Interplay's MMO lives I think it will be fine. Unless the devs decide to earn money or whatever in which case Bethesda might get pissy.
But from their view atm, it's just a fanmod of the old games and isn't detracting from their sales atm.
However if the devs do get a legal notice. I doubt they will continue this. And I really really doubt Bethesda will llet a fan mmo live.. I mean look Interplay has a license to make a mmo and Bethesda don't want that either. (probably because they want to make an mmo now)
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i think if they have the rights, they can cancel a mod (like blizzard did with World of starcraft, a starcraft 2 mod) But actually they have no reason for doing something against this.
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Its technically a mod
Technically, it's NOT a mod.
you need to own F2 to play it
These two files, master and critter, can be pirated like everything else. :< (:>?) Doesn't need the rest of Fallout.
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That's a warning for you, Floodnik. We do not support people pirating the game.
It's only 2-3$ on Amazon/ebay, so buy it.
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Back to topic: There shouldnt be any problem and even if bethesa really should take legal strikes against FOnline, which server and version it may ever be, it would be simply stupid as there is no real profit in doing it as any dev of a FOnline "Edition" isnt commiting a crime as long it is free2play. Also, not every game developer/publisher is gimme-yo-moniez-blizzard.
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@Surf
I do not tell anyone to pirate the game, I said it's possible. Like everything.
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You cannot change facts ::)
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simply saying "you can pirate it" over "you can buy it" is promotion.
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simply saying "you can pirate it" over "you can buy it" is promotion.
yep but they dont have nothing to do with piracy, so they aren't fomenting anything at all, so bethesda cant do anything against fonline for that.... you can get a pirate fallout 3, and that isnt a reason for bethesda canceling the game.
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2653-Piracy
Not really related to the discussion atm in really, but I figure this vid is pretty enlightening.
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i have a question ( im a completely idiot with programming)
actually devs of this game dont have the engine of FO2, or any FO? i think that devs dont
FO2 engine will work with fonline?
there is any posibility of pay to interplay for the engine?
what will be the problms with bethesda?
devs can get some permission of distribute this, no matter of who gives it, and of course without gain money for this?
how much this will cost?
without a permission i think this game will go to hell some day.... :'(
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The FOnline engine was developed from scratch and is something different to the the FO1/2 engine.
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http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1057232/000117091807000324/0001170918-07-000324.txt
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i think fallout just find his water chip, bring it to vault, and was betrayed.
anyway, bethesda cant have license forever. when i mean forever i mean forever.
when they got from FALLOUT name* (*all they got) all they can (like juice from fruit) they ll leave it.
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Hey, uh, just a question,
Does Bethesda own the rights to Fallout 2? I didn't think they'd held rights to PAST titles, just FUTURE ones.