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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: OskaRus on February 08, 2011, 10:24:19 am
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Inspired by recent discussion about exploits, bug abusing, etc... I am trying to summarize current state of most troublesome exploits. I thonk most of the comunity will be glad to hear from devs if or how they will be solved. Feel free to add your own exploits but please keep your suggested solutions in different and more appropriate threads.
- NPC stealing. It was easy to steal huge ammounts of ammo and stuff from encounters in relatively short time compared to crafting (About 10k 5mm AP + 150 Explosive rockets in 30 mins). Especially BOS patrols. Now if you join BOS for mere 120 AP ammo you can very well continue in this practice.
- Bank interrest. In combination with NPC stealing which allowed you to hoard ammo and then sell it it became the source of very high or even ulimmited ammount of caps (from hundret thousandst to millions a day).
- Loading glitch. It allowed camping areas much easier with unlimmited money and easy obtainable mercs.
- Cooldown bypass. With public free proxies and free VPNs already well known to comunity everybody can fastrelog/duallog without being detectable via same IP.
- Mutant artillery. Muties are able to jump in fire swarm of rockets instantly and leave combat immediately without much consequence. It make every exit grid in TC death trap without ability to defend or retaliate effectively.
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Feel free to add your own exploits
Sounds funny for me :)
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greatest exploit ? - PROXY
and what is wrong with bank intrest? we have this feature form 1,5 year! ;)
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and what is wrong with bank intrest? we have this feature from 1,5 year! ;)
Yes, but it doesn't work by some wipes/updates (bank interest was 0%)
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npc stealing is worse bug from my opinion.
bank intersts are working as intended.
mutants spawning on grids cause fear only to loners and non organised groups.
loading glitch is not so hard to evade, again only for organised gangs(loners will can't do shot anyways coz it's a gang related mod).
CD bypass - khmm no comments :P.
imho.
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loading glitch is not so hard to evade, again only for organised gangs(loners will can't do shot anyways coz it's a gang related mod).
Bleh, suggestion for this: before entering press preview to load map, it help me with loading (because first map have to be downloaded to your cache, and has to be loaded to your RAM as I think..) from 6-10 secounds of waiting to 2-4
And also loading glitch hurt most this players, which has low PC (like me unfortunately :P)
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GM's are the biggest exploit of Fonline... just joking, well to me only "Cooldown bypass" is not OK. Other so called "exploits" should be nerfed a bit and could work just fine.
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A: The bank interest thing is a feature that was either meant to just be tested this session, or was poorly thought out.
B: The instant firing merc AI caused the screen freezing + death glitch. which i've said could be fixed with a simple delay like encounters have.
C: The stealing from NPC's isn't so much a bug, as a lack of protection against it, meaning its legal, but very cheap none the less.
D: The duel logging/fast logging has been around for longer than alot of players. you can only make it harder, but you cant really get rid of it without the players agreeing to stop. unless you use a serial key to count each game client. and can limit it to one key per person.
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Bank interest was fine until folks who gained from tc glitch and other big gangs decided to abuse it and fuck it upfor everyone else.
Pretty much Fonline folks being Fonline folks.
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proxys(relog coldown bypass) is the worst exploit
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Definitely it's npc stealing for me. It puts rockets(and other ammo) in almost the same position as plasma nades few era's back... Why craft them, if you can farm them much more faster in much larger amounts with not much of a risk involved.
(And I still think that, if this kind of stealing was impossible, no cooldown bypass, and the mercs were bought naked, and there was no BOS vs. Unity encouter this era, then we wouldn't face the mutant swarm or rocket spam so often)
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funny thing about Bos vs Mutants encounter. If the mutants win, they don't let you loot anything. If BoS wins, they let you loot what ever they dont loot. Possible fix is to make BoS act like mutants after winning.
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That loading thing for sure!
One guy got 5 mutant mercs and encounter bugged and when i login again i was killed already.
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funny thing about Bos vs Mutants encounter. If the mutants win, they don't let you loot anything. If BoS wins, they let you loot what ever they dont loot.
Not true, you can loot if mutants win, you just have to wait until mutants loot everything that's theirs. It can take some time because they are slow. At the end you can loot all the stuff that's left, just like the BoS won.
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C: The stealing from NPC's isn't so much a bug, as a lack of protection against it, meaning its legal, but very cheap none the less.
I think npc stealing should be limited to towns to prevent the farming.
Most interesting npc to steal from in towns are the guards which are actually unstealable.
Biggest exploit of this era is definitely the stealing from BoS.
At some point there were over 100k 5mm AP bullets on Jacob in the Hub.
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Bank interest of course. I put 500k in there two months ago and I have over 10 milions now. Caps are useless. ::)
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Bank interest of course. I put 500k in there two months ago and I have over 10 milions now. Caps are useless. ::)
Let's see. If the bank interest was constantly 3%(which is not)...
2 months - about 60 days, so:
500000*1,03^60 = 2945801.
So, about 3 milions, not 10.
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Let's see. If the bank interest was constantly 3%(which is not)...
2 months - about 60 days, so:
500000*1,03^60 = 2945801.
So, about 3 milions, not 10.
It's not 3% from 500k all the time. When it raises to 600k it's 3% from 600k and so on and so on you dumbass.
I just checked my balance:
(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9162/cashx.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/o4Hh7.jpg)
And it raised just from half a milion.
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It would take 129 days of daily 3% interest to get that high.
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It doesn't matter, it's still way too much. Johns screenshots are the perfect example that the interest rate is a horrible idea.
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It doesn't matter, it's still way too much. Johns screenshots are the perfect example that the interest rate is a horrible idea.
Indeed, but Floodnik's maths was right, so I thought I'd post :P
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It's not 3% from 500k all the time. When it raises to 600k it's 3% from 600k and so on and so on you dumbass.
Yes, I know. I included this in my calculations.
500000*1,03^60 means 500000 * 1,03 * 1,03 * 1,03 etc etc. So it includes what was added before.
Now, remember to keep your mouth shut and use your brain a little before you answer to someone like this.
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Bleh, suggestion for this: before entering press preview to load map, it help me with loading (because first map have to be downloaded to your cache, and has to be loaded to your RAM as I think..) from 6-10 secounds of waiting to 2-4
And also loading glitch hurt most this players, which has low PC (like me unfortunately :P)
Press preview on Gecko mine, please. Nice joke.
Bold words is biggest mistake ever, cause somewhere in forum was a message about it. You will die on server, and then it will be loaded in your client. Only if you have mercenaries you got chances. If i am wrong - correct me please, but only if you realy sure.
About bank interest - doesnt it RANDOM?
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About bank interest - doesnt it RANDOM?
1 wipe ago it was dependant on how much caps you have on account, I had 3% when below 10k, 2% when below 50k or something, so if I had 50k+ on bank account I always had 1%, everytime I took some caps from there my % raised instantly, but if I put there much caps it lowered, and again, it was instantly, in the same second, so every bank account had his own %. And... also I wasn't sure if it's working, because I didn't notice ammount of caps raising much. Looks like they changed it after wipe, don't know, I wasn't checking this session. As I heard now it's totally random from 1% to 3%.
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Speaking of interest rate, it wasnt working season(s) before. Also it seems to me that you gain 2x the interest rate every day. So if we take average interest rate 2% multiplied by 2, in one month, you more than double your deposit.
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The proxy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Idolized is the greatest exploit
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Idolized is not exploit. Exploit is possible to get Idolized all time
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Idolized is not exploit. Exploit is possible to get Idolized all time
Getting respect from a faction doesn't just give people authority to kill anyone because they want to. Maybe it isn't a glitch, but still very dumb feature
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Getting respect from a faction doesn't just give people authority to kill anyone because they want to. Maybe it isn't a glitch, but still very dumb feature
Yup, needs changing.