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I've scrapped it, finesse is what screwed it.
maybe i will just quit, rather than play cookie cutter characters like everyone else.
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Alright, most i see here call themselves snipers, i am sorry but shooting hands, groins or whatever and taking 2 shots to kill something is no sniper, that is a marksman or a trick shooter.
so i will post my perfect pure sniper build. yes he has to smoke cigarettes.
Str 5 gotta hold a gun
Pe 9 just so you arent sneaked up on
En 6 no weakness
Cha 3, snipers need a good spotter/cleaner
In 8, yeah you need brains
Ag 4 learn to use cover.
Luck 6, just enough.
Small Frame, Finesse.
Survivalist, MC, Sharpshooter, Lifegiver, MC,MC,BC
172HP, 7AC
261 SG
100 FA
95 Out
now heres why, i will calculate out Eyeshotting a Deathclaw at 50hex. One shot one kill.
smoking a cig gives (10pe-2)x16 = 128 to hit. add 261 skill, and 8 for Sharpshooter and 20 for the sniper rifles ammo =397 total to hit
deathclaw at 50 hex = 200, minus 60 for headshot and 40 for his AC = 300 to hit
395 - 300 = 97% chance to hit at 91% critical, and +20 on critical hit table.
I think the deathclaw is dead.
even Full AC character is eveless, 25AC from armor at best. 15 AC from 10AG and dodger.
of course you can say the 3cha is a waste, but even if you do get the drop on me and knock me down, theres still my bodyguard with a rocket launcher hehe.
Epic fail
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Maybe for you. but i like killing things with just one shot from a sniper rifle.
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Maybe for you. but i like killing things with just one shot from a sniper rifle.
;D Epic!
Have you killed something with it?
i listed a true sniper build, ACTUAL ONE SHOT ONE KILL.
You make my day. A little bit less pathos next time, ok?
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Alright, most i see here call themselves snipers, i am sorry but shooting hands, groins or whatever and taking 2 shots to kill something is no sniper, that is a marksman or a trick shooter.
so i will post my perfect pure sniper build. yes he has to smoke cigarettes.
Str 5 gotta hold a gun
Pe 9 just so you arent sneaked up on
En 6 no weakness
Cha 3, snipers need a good spotter/cleaner
In 8, yeah you need brains
Ag 4 learn to use cover.
Luck 6, just enough.
Small Frame, Finesse.
Survivalist, MC, Sharpshooter, Lifegiver, MC,MC,BC
172HP, 7AC
261 SG
100 FA
95 Out
now heres why, i will calculate out Eyeshotting a Deathclaw at 50hex. One shot one kill.
smoking a cig gives (10pe-2)x16 = 128 to hit. add 261 skill, and 8 for Sharpshooter and 20 for the sniper rifles ammo =397 total to hit
deathclaw at 50 hex = 200, minus 60 for headshot and 40 for his AC = 300 to hit
395 - 300 = 97% chance to hit at 91% critical, and +20 on critical hit table.
I think the deathclaw is dead.
and i think, deathclaw have nice dinner
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Calculating things is good, experince is a bless. I had more than 15 sniper builds and I tell you, you'll have a big surprise waiting at lvl 21 when you'll aim your sniper rifle at that deathclaw's eyes... And i can't say that CH3 is a waste, witouth telling you that INT8 is a even bigger waste and that AG4 with EN6 will make you a little girl in TB enc.
Post screens when the epic fight will take place!
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you'll have a big surprise waiting at lvl 21 when you'll aim your sniper rifle at that deathclaw's eyes...
Oh no, you've ruined such a surprise ;)
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Just made him, lvling him up as soon as the server is back up.
I was thinking of how to counter the PVP snipers, naturally they have to knock me down first. thats where the Bodyguard comes in.
of course you can nix off the cha and put it into luk, which wont make much difference. or AGI and replace BC with BRoF for p90s.
i am thinking of tossing livegiver for silent running and putting my FA to sneak. than i can use my bodyguard as a meat shield for someone to pot shot at and give away their position, where i can than take them out.
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i am thinking of tossing livegiver for silent running and putting my FA to sneak. than i can use my bodyguard as a meat shield for someone to pot shot at and give away their position, where i can than take them out.
Tell me moar. I thought your build could not be any worse, but seems you are able to spoil even this.
My advise - just read and learn. You can find a lot of builds here.
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Sorry for you boy but i agree with most of people here ...
I have done 6 snipers build in fonline (every char are 21) and i can say your build is not the best ...
First if you take Finesse you want to cripple so you're based on critical chance so do it and take 10 luck.
3 charisma is totaly wasting special points you dont need body guard you need other players who carry you because they are leaders.
Intelligence 8 ? What a BIG waste .. and to finish, AG 4 ..... LOL You need 7 AP to shoot with Sniper riffle, with 4 AG you'll shoot only once and with that kind of build i don't really think that on shoot will be enough to kill your opponent. :)
Just advices, good day guys :)
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You guys, are funny! Thank you.
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A real Sniper build
for your information, real sniper need to have:
10luck
11-12ap
12pe
bonus rate of fire
doctor?
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10 Luck, 12 PE and at least 10 action points are a REQUIREMENT for a quite good sniper build .. I tested a lot of sniper builds of all kinds in fonline and i finally found the better one :) Maybe i'll make another build which will be better who knows :)
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Duel my sniper, you can use burst as well, I'll use 10mm pistol. Marko on irc. Anytime I'm online.
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It's not so hard to make a good build.
Jet, Nuca cola, ciggs
12 AP 168 HP
1
8
6
1
6
9
10
Small frame
3 Awarness/toughness
6 more criticals
9 Better Criticals
12 life giver
15 Weapon handling
18 BROF
21 sharpshooter
241 Small Guns
90 Doctor
Or
1
9
6
1
6
7
10
No traits
3 Awarness/toughness
6 more criticals
9 Better Criticals
12 life giver
15 Weapon handling
18 BROF
21 sharpshooter
241 Small Guns
90 Doctor
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It's not so hard to make a good build.
Jet, Nuca cola, ciggs
12 AP 168 HP
1
8
6
1
6
9
10
Small frame
3 Awarness/toughness
6 more criticals
9 Better Criticals
12 life giver
15 Weapon handling
18 BROF
21 sharpshooter
241 Small Guns
90 Doctor
Or
1
9
6
1
6
7
10
No traits
3 Awarness/toughness
6 more criticals
9 Better Criticals
12 life giver
15 Weapon handling
18 BROF
21 sharpshooter
241 Small Guns
90 Doctor
Your builds are not good, 1 ST with weapon handling gives you 4 ST and you need 5 ST to shoot with sniper riffle ...
And to me you better take 3 More critical if you make a crit sniper then DO IT and base all your perks and build on crit (better crit 3* more crit, and 10 luck ..)
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241 Small Guns
With 5 st I would take 210- 220 % SG
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ok right :)
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Your builds are not good, 1 ST with weapon handling gives you 4 ST and you need 5 ST to shoot with sniper riffle ...
And to me you better take 3 More critical if you make a crit sniper then DO IT and base all your perks and build on crit (better crit 3* more crit, and 10 luck ..)
His builds are some of the real time pvp sniper builds that all big factions are using. The thing that nobody realises is that this build will not be used by an experinced player. Also, he wont do any TC and there are big chances that he wont use drugs either. Actually he will do PVE, so he needs a solo balanced sniper build, a sniper that can actually shoot eyes with a sniper rifle would be nice.
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This build is to Shoot something in the eyes, and kill it, no misses.
and not one of you has come up with something better.
why do i need 10luck if my first shot already goes for 91% crit?
why do i need 2 shots if my first one killed you and i simply use sneak and wait til someone else gets in my range?
95% outdoorsman negated the encounters abit, but its not hard to run from them, i would just rather get xp from it.
If i need 2 shots, i have a BG/armor/energy crafter that does that job well.
if i just wanted to use bursts i have a 3 shot gunfighter for that.
i even made a barehanded ninja (kick them in the eyes til they die.)
You can flame and troll this all you guys like, but the point still stands, that you Havent posted anything better.
i will make it simple, 50hex, one shot, one kill.
the only way you can do better is able to kill 2 things at 50hex in one Turn. (i am working on it)
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This build is to Shoot something in the eyes, and kill it, no misses.
and not one of you has come up with something better.
why do i need 10luck if my first shot already goes for 91% crit?
why do i need 2 shots if my first one killed you and i simply use sneak and wait til someone else gets in my range?
95% outdoorsman negated the encounters abit, but its not hard to run from them, i would just rather get xp from it.
If i need 2 shots, i have a BG/armor/energy crafter that does that job well.
if i just wanted to use bursts i have a 3 shot gunfighter for that.
i even made a barehanded ninja (kick them in the eyes til they die.)
You can flame and troll this all you guys like, but the point still stands, that you Havent posted anything better.
i will make it simple, 50hex, one shot, one kill.
the only way you can do better is able to kill 2 things at 50hex in one Turn. (i am working on it)
Each phrase is so lol. We got a fat troll here?
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i will make it simple, 50hex, one shot, one kill.
Not all criticals = instant kill
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I didnt think pulling 2 50hex OHKO in a round was possible but, since you guys made me think more about being a drug junkie. it is possible.
i might have to keep this build to myself.
you are very right about that Omen, but when was a shot in the eyes not a bad thing?
and considering my chances to miss will be extremely low, i think going jinxed might be fun, i never did like small frame. and with the drugs, i think it might not be necessary.
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You are right, we haven't come with anything better! Please do your armor/sneaker/sniper/ninja/merc leader/1 shoot 1 kill/jinxed character and let us know how it did turned out.
I'll bring the beer!
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You are right, we haven't come with anything better! Please do your armor/sneaker/sniper/ninja/merc leader/1 shoot 1 kill/jinxed character and let us know how it did turned out.
I'll bring the beer!
HAHAHAHAHA !!
You're sooo right !
This guy is so funny :) Make a jinxed sniper you'll instant kill everything for sure boy HAHAHA :) Bring beer we'll need it !
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Maybe for you. but i like killing things with just one shot from a sniper rifle.
How exactly will you even shoot sniper rifle with 4ag?
Unless you're a cripler... Except for limb shots your crit chance is horrible...
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Bad enough, we have a guy that thinks using ST4 guns is a sniper, (unless he's using gauss pistol). i donno would buffout work or would that kill your AG?
Now we have a guy that Mistakes 4AG for 4AP.(read the first post)
welcome to the bog of eternal stench..Gullible trolls be `ere
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bad enough, we have a guy that thinks using ST4 guns is a sniper, (unless he's using gauss pistol).
How we have a guy that Mistakes 4AG for 4AP.
welcome to the bog of eternal stench..Gullible trolls be `ere
Bwahahahaha!
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You are right, we haven't come with anything better! Please do your armor/sneaker/sniper/ninja/merc leader/1 shoot 1 kill/jinxed character and let us know how it did turned out.
I'll bring the beer!
This guy failed the reading/comprehension portion of high school.
how the hell did you summarize 2 paragraphs and 3 sentences into one and regurgitate it into a even bigger load of bullshit?
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OMG, his build is so powerful, he don't even need to shot you with a sniper rifle! He will burn your eyes with power of his thoughts!
All your build are pwned, live with it, noobs!
I can suggest only to lower AG (you don't need to move to use psyonics) and increase INT (power of pure mind!)
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Just stop feeding the troll :3
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Builds trolling is so much fun.
I must admit it is my alt ;D
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how the hell did you summarize 2 paragraphs and 3 sentences into one and regurgitate it into a even bigger load of bullshit?
It's called art, it's a gift from God! Don't worry, you'll find out how funny you are after you get some in-game experience. Please don't kill me with one shoot or put your armorer to shoot me two times in one turn, I am alone and sad, that's why I am doing this.
This guy failed the reading/comprehension portion of high school.
Maybe, but high school is much harder than a simple topic on a forum wich you fail to read/comprehend. Show some mercy for god sake and try to understand what these guys are telling you here about your character build.
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My character build is completely sound, its not a Druggie PVPer.
I dont want a cookie cutter character, this isnt a korean MMO.
I am trying something new, and fits my style of play. I prefer Guerrilla Tactics with a long range weapon.
And i have yet to see a decent 50hex build since the update.
It actually fits what a Sniper is, how many times do you hear about sniper builds on here and they are using handguns.
look it up, You have to use a rifle to be a sniper.
So this guy comes on me with his 12 ap PVP p90 BRoF gunner, he has to get in 35hexs of me. which means i have 17 hexes to drop his ass.
and even if hes using an assault rifle, i still have the advantage, and if he has a sniper rifle, than its a matter of who gets who first.
more than likely he will only have one shot as well, so now its who hits harder.
and lets not forget, if i added drugs to my build. making 10 ap, just enough for a pp90 that will hit anything twice. or let me fire my Sniper rifle and than put more distance between.
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Challenge accepted!
I will lvl up this build and kick ass with it.
One shoot, one kill.
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Hey man, you ain't gonna get 91% chance with this build.
The critical chance formula is (60+4*luck)/100*AimBonus+BaseCriticalChance.
Aim bonus - 60% for eyes; Base Critical Chance - 6%(6 luck) + 10%(finesse) + 15%(3x MC) = 31%
So, let's calculate.
(60+4*6)/100*60%+31% = 0,84*60%+31% = 50,4%+31% = 81,4%
Just getting some things straightened out. For the other parts... Others already said it all.
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ah thanks for the info. 81% hmm, still that a 4 outta 5. pretty darn good actually. thanks for the clarification.
what the others said didnt amount to much other than bringing up PVP builds and trolling.
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Hey man, you ain't gonna get 91% chance with this build.
The critical chance formula is (60+4*luck)/100*AimBonus+BaseCriticalChance.
Aim bonus - 60% for eyes; Base Critical Chance - 6%(6 luck) + 10%(finesse) + 15%(3x MC) = 31%
So, let's calculate.
(60+4*6)/100*60%+31% = 0,84*60%+31% = 50,4%+31% = 81,4%
Just getting some things straightened out. For the other parts... Others already said it all.
Floodnik, why do you want to spoil Uber-Sniper build, real one-shot-killa ?
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BoS make 40---+++ dmg on centaur from minigun, how sniper rifle can make 400 dmg from 1 hit ?:(
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I tried a new build out. You get 173 hp, 9 AP, 85-90 crit chance (depending on what perks you take) 225 sg, 118 fa and 100 doc.
ST: 2
PE: 10
EN: 4
CH: 1
IN: 6
AG: 8
LK: 10
Small Frame, Finesse
Awareness, More Critical, Better Critical, Life Giver, Life Giver, Weapon Handling, More Critical
If you take BROF, you get 85% crit chance but cheaper shots. Taking action boy will increase your AP regen but again will lower your crit rate. You can also substitute sharpshooter or magnetic personality for the last More Critical. Taking sharpshooter will give you a much bigger sight range (56), which can act defensively and offensively. Taking magnetic personality will give you room for 1 merc. Grab mutant for big ownages.
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The OP is really funny. Thx! :P
Ps. Best topic ever!
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I usually don't post, but..
Man, this is the best thread ever.
4AGI really cracked me up!
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Man, no joke, one shot, one kill. Got it? One shot, one kill... 8(,
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*Laughs while rolling on the floor*
Phew... an instant kill... on deahtclaw... with 4 AGI *Keeps laughing*
I guess this guy has never encountered a deathclaw itself!
A deathclaw instant kill from 50 hexes? *Laughs again*
Some encounter maps aren't even 50 hexes (if you cut out the exit grids and take in calculation your spawn point) and this guy wants to kill a deathclaw from 50 hexes *Laughs again*
Lets make this deal, you with your level 21 "real sniper" against my level 15 crafter, if you win, I will give you 10k caps!
Oh, and My character build is completely sound, its not a Druggie PVPer.
Then what the f*** is it, if you are thinking about killing someone from 50 hexes? *Laughs (again)*
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oh well i scrapped the character, you were right about the 50hex, hard to get a clear shot.
and the big flaw is using finesse. 30DR makes OHKO tough with anything over 200hp
Its still fun to use.
next build gonna try for 2 shots with scoped hunting rifle, or assault rifle.
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guy, u can play with weak build, and have more fun, if yoo wannah kill all - dont make own builds, ask smbd for BG build.
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Why do u even need STR 4/5 ?
I have a 95% chance to hit at max range with my sniper and I have STR 2.
Don't forget weapon handlings gives +3 effective, and whatever str points are left missing will be compensated by a high smallguns skill (>225), or drugs, depending on build.
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I've scrapped it, finesse is what screwed it.
maybe i will just quit, rather than play cookie cutter characters like everyone else.
Got sick of trolling... Finesse screwed the 4AG sniper build, oh yeah!
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try a 2 shot EW sniper. You can usually get away with a build that doesn't need drugs but becomes super awesome after you do :)
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OP had something interesting going on. Deviating from the common clone builds of 2238 would be cool.
You encounter,
3 generic pvp-drug sniper builds.