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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: NastyKhan on January 24, 2011, 02:14:40 am
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I REALLY suggest to add pipe-rifle to craftable Tier 0 weapon list. It should be even easier to make than 10mm pistol.
I also suggest to move scoped hunting rifle and sawed-off shotgun to tier 0 group. Come on it's not so hard to mount a scope or saw off something.
Finally i suggest to move some items from T0 to T1, like 10mm pistol, mauser, or laser pistol etc.
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I REALLY suggest to add pipe-rifle to craftable Tier 0 weapon list. It should be even easier to make than 10mm pistol.
I also suggest to move scoped hunting rifle and sawed-off shotgun to tier 0 group. Come on it's not so hard to mount a scope or saw off something.
Finally i suggest to move some items from T0 to T1, like 10mm pistol, mauser, or laser pistol etc.
1: ok
2: sure, and others like an extended mag(if you can put your hands on)
3: no, laser pistol is the only tier 0 energy weapon that can be crafted
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Why? Who's gonna craft it? Or use it.
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Why? Who's gonna craft it? Or use it.
Lvl 1 characters and kamikaze miners.
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Lvl 1 characters and kamikaze miners.
Lvl 1 chars can get much better weapons from vs encounters, or even shops by farming stuff. Besides it doesn't matter if you can craft pipe rifle because then you need to craft 10mm ammo which isn't as easy. If you can find 10mm then you can farm weapons too.
And what comes to kamikaze mining, that shouldn't be (imo) encouraged in any way.
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Pipe rifle is always fun for player made events :D
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Alternative for BB gun ^^
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If you boosted the pipe rifles range so its longer than a 10mm. to about 30 or so. people would use it for early sniping.
As for banzai miners. whats wrong with that? its fun to run in to camped areas with live TNT on you and see if they loot it by mistake. or leave the timer short so it blows up while they loot.
-Ulrek-
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As for banzai miners. whats wrong with that? its fun to run in to camped areas with live TNT on you and see if they loot it by mistake. or leave the timer short so it blows up while they loot.
What's wrong is that your char dies. If you want to have a game where players act in rational way, dying shouldn't be encouraged in any way.
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Alternative for BB gun ^^
It's much more powerful than bb.
Damage: 1-3 vs. 6-13
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It's much more powerful than bb.
Damage: 1-3 vs. 6-13
But only one bullet loaded at time. Nobody use it. From what I remember You can still loot pipe rifle around Den from homesteaders or something like that.
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Lvl 1 chars can get much better weapons from vs encounters, or even shops by farming stuff. Besides it doesn't matter if you can craft pipe rifle because then you need to craft 10mm ammo which isn't as easy. If you can find 10mm then you can farm weapons too.
And what comes to kamikaze mining, that shouldn't be (imo) encouraged in any way.
So what? Save your "protips" for yourself. I want to be able to craft pipe rifle from junk and so want newbs. Hey, how about that, it's better to have more choices than less don't you think?
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If the dev's turn 10mms in to tier 1 weapons than you'll be begging for pipe rifles.
But otherwise if it had a longer range. it'd still be useful for crit characters who need to snipe. like a finesse character. since they need to snipe at mobs. and rate of fire isn't as needed.
-Ulrek-
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1. Truth.
2. Truth. 9 AP and you can do eyeshot + reload each turn. I do that with hunting rifle.
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Boosting Pipe rifle's range + making it craftable would be nice for beginner snipers
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So what? Save your "protips" for yourself. I want to be able to craft pipe rifle from junk and so want newbs. Hey, how about that, it's better to have more choices than less don't you think?
I'd still like to know what you would do with the gun if you can't get ammo. Choices that nobody use are good as nothing, sometimes people just suggest things without thinking much.
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10mm ammo is easily looted and available to buy in low quantities from traders. If You are sniper You don't need hundreds of bullets.
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10mm ammo is easily looted and available to buy in low quantities from traders. If You are sniper You don't need hundreds of bullets.
But if you loot 10mm ammo, aren't you able to loot 10mm weapons aswell? Same goes with buying.
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Boosting Pipe rifle's range + making it craftable would be nice for beginner snipers
With already suggested boosted range it would be better (for snipers) then looted 10mm pistol (and cheaper).
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But if you loot 10mm ammo, aren't you able to loot 10mm weapons aswell? Same goes with buying.
wow you're dense, do you even read the rest of the thread or just go "no! no changes! let's stay in stone age"
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wow you're dense, do you even read the rest of the thread or just go "no! no changes! let's stay in stone age"
Just explain your opinions with reason instead of accusing me to be some sort of conservative.
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If the range is long on the pipe rilfe. than it gives the sniper a chance to run away faster, so for ranged enemies he can get away. which would make it better than the 10mm pistol for kill stealing with crits against NPC's like raiders and junktown scouts.
-Ulrek-
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Pipe rifle + longer range > 10mm pistol
Beside for 1-3lvl player it's no easy to massively loot 10mm ammo. With your 10mm pistol/rifle and leather jacket you have low chances to do mass hunt on armed enemies. But it's still somehow easy to BUY.
One more thing: If u use slaves, that don't have pistol animations, and you don't want to give'em hunting rifles + valuable 223 ammo, then 10mm thing is a good choice.
I really think that making pipe rifle craftable (and increasing it's range) is a good and smart idea.
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The slave thing i can get behind somewhat. but most slaves that cant use pistols. and are weaker are normally crappy anyway. a shotgun is better for most slaves due to higher damage. and the fact that most cant snipe.
But if for some reason you don't have hunting rifles for ghoul crazies. you can give them pipe rifles with 10mm AP.
-Ulrek-
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improving the range wont really do much. If your weapon skill is high enough to hit eyes at 30hex, you don't have to rely on pipe rifles anymore anyway.