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Title: Stereotypical Bike. Yeah, A BIKE.
Post by: NastyKhan on January 17, 2011, 12:42:07 am
After failure with mustang i decided to try once more with something different. While searching The Vault wiki i found this picture:

(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4784/vbmotorcycleeurope.jpg) (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/vbmotorcycleeurope.jpg/)

So I launched GIMP and after some time i was able to make this:

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2797/bikeg.png) (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/bikeg.png/)

Current version is:

(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6571/49096928.png)(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/700/68204657.png)(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1992/88380037.png)(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1885/48794038.png)(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4768/26597530.png)

So.. What do you think?
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Post by: LeMark on January 17, 2011, 12:47:26 am
Nice work!
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Post by: LeonTheNorse on January 17, 2011, 01:05:30 am
Looks great.

Make it look more  rusty and used and i think you are there.


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Post by: Michaelh139 on January 17, 2011, 01:09:44 am
Looks perfect, just like your mustang...  :'(
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Post by: Ganado on January 17, 2011, 01:10:55 am
Yeah more dirt and decay and it will look more fallout-ish :)
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Post by: Michaelh139 on January 17, 2011, 01:17:18 am
about it needing rust etc, maybe they were introduced to the wasteland by stored military base means?
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 17, 2011, 01:19:13 am
about it needing rust etc, maybe they were introduced to the wasteland by stored military base means?

U reading my mind, dude. Let say that those bikes come from and old pre-war military storage and were never used before. Not everything in the wastelands must be junk-made ;)
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Post by: LeonTheNorse on January 17, 2011, 01:26:00 am
They where stored in vacum?

Even a plane or anything that stands in a hanger for 60 100 years rusts.

At least the paint needs to look more "old"

i get that you want stuff to be "new".

But at least in my mind the paint needs to look old as no paint holds forever, even if they say so when you buy it  hehe ;)





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Post by: OskaRus on January 17, 2011, 01:27:01 am
German ww2 bmw with sidecar, SS trooper, MG42 and hakenkroic would be much cooler. xD
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 17, 2011, 01:46:49 am
Fine. You won. I'll add some dirt/rust :)
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Post by: falloutdude on January 17, 2011, 01:56:54 am
Looks great I would love to roam the wastes with a bike.
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 17, 2011, 02:37:48 am
The rusting process is completed.
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Post by: LeonTheNorse on January 17, 2011, 02:40:27 am
Looking forward to seeing the bike after it has be rusted hehe
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Post by: Kanly on January 17, 2011, 03:48:50 am
Awesome. I want it !!!
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Post by: Ganado on January 17, 2011, 04:00:07 am
Yep the new picture of the rusted one looks better. The only thing I see right now as another problem is the shadow on the side we see. The shadow seems to cover the whole side of the bike that we see.

Maybe limit the shadow to only certain parts, making it about the same brightness as the cockroach that you compare it to.
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Post by: Dr. Wasteland on January 17, 2011, 04:50:54 am
I don't see why Vault City couldn't have a motorcycle factory.
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Post by: John Ryder on January 17, 2011, 05:20:30 am
Again the perspective is kinda weird. But anyways, there already is a motorcycle model in-game, it's just not used. I remember someone posting it on forums.

EDIT:
Here, I found it:
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9539/motocykl.jpg)
It just needs a shadow added.
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Post by: Dr. Wasteland on January 17, 2011, 05:21:27 am
What if we took that one and made it look useable? Then we'd get two new bikes!
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Post by: Fridge_Man on January 17, 2011, 06:33:42 am
Awesome, as most of ur ideas/small mods ;)

I really love the bike, green aswell as rusted too!

The original bike (wtf is this btw Honda Goldfag) looks much more worse to me.
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9539/motocykl.jpg/bmi_orig_img/motocykl.jpg)
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Post by: Crazy on January 17, 2011, 01:05:36 pm
I love bikes.
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Post by: Wipe on January 17, 2011, 01:15:34 pm
It just needs a shadow added.

You guys wanna drive without helmets? Safety first!
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Post by: Alvarez on January 17, 2011, 03:30:30 pm
TOTALLY DO WANT.

Khan, would you like to make a replacement mod for Cockroach? It also has a very small trunk and place for one.
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 17, 2011, 09:08:53 pm
You guys wanna drive without helmets? Safety first!

I could draw a beauteauwouitful helmet and even those shining shinings to make you visible in night.. if that helps me to see that baby In GAME, Dear GM.



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Khan, would you like to make a replacement mod for Cockroach?
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a replacement mod for Cockroach?
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replace Cockroach?
How.. How you.. How DARE you?? Infidel! Shhh.. Don't listen to him Roachie. He's joking only.. he's only joking..
Title: Re: Stereotypical Bike. Yeah, A BIKE.
Post by: NastyKhan on January 17, 2011, 09:21:45 pm
Update! I fixed some lights and colors.
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Post by: Ganado on January 17, 2011, 09:23:38 pm
The shadows are much better now   ;)
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Post by: Bantz on January 17, 2011, 10:03:41 pm
The roach is great, this beauty should replace buggy as two-men, very fast and quick detoriating option. Curent buggy is ugly and non fitting to Fallout enviroment.
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 17, 2011, 11:10:41 pm
I personally was thinking that is should be SINGLE only and with NO TRUNK. However i also think it should be pretty CHEAP and EASY To OBTAIN so players wouldn't afraid of parking it in public places, use for TC or even just give for free, like me and me gang used to do with some other gear.
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Post by: Crazy on January 17, 2011, 11:15:52 pm
I would love it as fastest individual carrier, but obtainable only via quest and much money.
Cockroach is already here for poor guys.
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Post by: Michaelh139 on January 17, 2011, 11:18:03 pm
I would love it as fastest individual carrier, but obtainable only via quest and much money.
Cockroach is already here for poor guys.
But the FCC is really rare + Expensive as hell for poor people, have you seen the trade prices going for these things????

I totally agree with NastyKhan's most recent post.
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Post by: OskaRus on January 17, 2011, 11:39:37 pm
The roach is great, this beauty should replace buggy as two-men, very fast and quick detoriating option. Curent buggy is ugly and non fitting to Fallout enviroment.

Not at all. IMHO buggy is the awesomest and most fallouty car in game. I would drive it if it had same deterioration rate as my highwayman. ;-)
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Post by: Bantz on January 17, 2011, 11:50:46 pm
Not at all. IMHO buggy is the awesomest and most fallouty car in game. I would drive it if it had same deterioration rate as my highwayman. ;-)
Buggy is crapy with poor graphic and sucks ass in general. Same as hummer. But we dont no other car now. For solo we have cocroach. Bike should replace buggy! Who is with me? ;D
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Post by: Wichura on January 18, 2011, 12:09:14 am
You have my spear, Leonidas!
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 18, 2011, 12:15:15 am
Dear Motorcomrades of all nations.. Focus! Please. Rather than discussing about stats of not-yet-existing bike tell me:

1. DO you want a bike at all?
2. Do you like MINE?

If you put double 'YES' then there is a little.. a LITTLE chance.. that that will happen and we will see it ingame someday. I mean i hope so.
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Post by: LeonTheNorse on January 18, 2011, 01:18:56 am
Dear Motorcomrades of all nations.. Focus! Please. Rather than discussing about stats of not-yet-existing bike tell me:

1. DO you want a bike at all?
2. Do you like MINE?

If you put double 'YES' then there is a little.. a LITTLE chance.. that that will happen and we will see it ingame someday. I mean i hope so.

Yes to both and It looks much better with shadows  and rust.

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Post by: Alvarez on January 18, 2011, 06:28:46 am
I said: make a replacement mod for some crappy car for now. If the popularity rises, mods will implement it as extra vehicle.
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 18, 2011, 01:46:28 pm
That would be hard, coz all vehicles has their own sizes and shapes. Replacing GFX only will not work. And i don't know are other stats accessible.
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Post by: Alvarez on January 18, 2011, 01:53:56 pm
That would be hard, coz all vehicles has their own sizes and shapes. Replacing GFX only will not work. And i don't know are other stats accessible.

It will be a start.
Or how about a sidecar, if you want to increase the size of the object?
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Post by: White150 on January 18, 2011, 02:36:48 pm
Amazing...
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Post by: barter1113 on January 20, 2011, 02:05:18 pm
Can you make tutorial how to replace cars for other shit like guns or beer? :D
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 20, 2011, 02:13:22 pm
Can you make tutorial how to replace cars for other shit like guns or beer? :D

Failed. I already made one http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=12772.0.
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Post by: Pudzian_Koks on January 20, 2011, 02:15:58 pm
But he want tutorial about cars lol.
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Post by: arathhunter on January 21, 2011, 02:43:17 pm
awesome idea, i love Bike, all kinds, and i'd love to see your idea come to life almost as much as i want the Village Idea
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 27, 2011, 01:02:41 am
I'd like to finish the project once and for all. Any more suggestions here?
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Post by: ronillon on January 27, 2011, 02:15:15 am
hi, DO NOT REPLACE, that is IMHO stupid. ADD MORE AND MORE. Diversity, that's what we really need.

I would put it as a reward for some Dungeon Quest, put it in the hidden storage room in stranded ship or something simillar. So you will have to do a quest to achieve it. May be pay some decent cash for a map how to get to the ship in the first place? That would be avesome.

Definitely YES, keep working.
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 27, 2011, 12:50:19 pm
No, no, no.

1. I want that bike to be easy to obtain, to make it as popular as possible.

2. Actually i was asking about picture itself but.. thanks for posting anyway :)
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Post by: LagMaster on January 28, 2011, 09:51:15 am
buy a bike at junkyard for 5k caps<- this is good
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Post by: arathhunter on January 28, 2011, 04:52:43 pm
buy a bike at junkyard for 5k caps<- this is good

Agreed, or at Least Boneyard,
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Post by: lodowaty on January 28, 2011, 06:36:35 pm
yeah ! look's great bring it on
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Post by: corosive on January 28, 2011, 10:37:38 pm
5k bike at boneyard would be sweet :) ofcourse it would have to be repaired every day or something but need a really low skill. Bike's in RL are extreamly easy to maintain apparently, I know so many country kids that can take apart a bike and put it back together in the dark while drunk.... I'm exaggering of course but you get the idea :P

Depending on the players luck, agility and endurance, rolls should be checked to see if you fall off the bike by hitting a tiny rock in the desert or by going too fast. Taking damage and doing a heavy amount of damage to the bike. For 5k the bike would be that noobie car for repair chars :P Hell a noob could make a small business repairing bikes lol



I liked the rusted one but it's too... bright i guess... Make it smoother and darken the colour of the rust... I guess, dunno i'm not a graphics designer. My first impression of seeing the screenshot was, "it's prob guna be lame and... holy shit! Fucking nice, how come this wasn't implemented last year?! It's almost perfect!"


In the end it doesn't matter if it looks rusted or not, maybe the bike was make with cleaner parts? Maybe just add some black dirt and some sand to the ww2 style one and voila!
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 30, 2011, 05:43:45 pm
I liked the rusted one but it's too... bright i guess... Make it smoother and darken the colour of the rust...

Well.. that makes me a little confused, coz all other people was complaining that's too dark ;) I think the lower left version is most optimal. Darker can be see next to it and i think it look worse.
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Post by: Rascal on January 30, 2011, 06:15:12 pm
that bike idea is awesome!
I love ur work Khan.
Devs please add thisssss!!!!!!
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Post by: bubbles on January 30, 2011, 06:58:02 pm
hmmm... imo it should be a kind of cross bike or maybe quad

or me luv - ducati 1098 ;p nah it does not fit to wasteland reality :(
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Post by: Shande on January 30, 2011, 07:09:46 pm
Yeah, something like ATVs should be added too.
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Post by: LagMaster on January 31, 2011, 12:14:45 am
i propozed bicicletes, and they where not implemented
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Post by: NastyKhan on January 31, 2011, 01:09:35 am
Don't want to be rude, but please dont change the subject. Maybe i'll try to draw other vehicles in the future, but at this moment i want to finish this. ;)
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Post by: corosive on February 01, 2011, 10:55:56 pm
i just think the colour scheme in general is too bright to fit in with the Fonline maps, but ehhhhhhhhhhhhh its all good.
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Post by: NastyKhan on February 02, 2011, 01:34:53 am
but which one u mean exactly?
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Post by: NastyKhan on February 03, 2011, 04:37:47 pm
Ok. I fixed some lights. How about now?
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Post by: Rascal on February 03, 2011, 05:45:04 pm
just great!
it should be implemented asap!
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Post by: Michaelh139 on February 04, 2011, 02:30:39 am
Not implemented yet?  Really?  ...Dammit. :'(
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Post by: NastyKhan on February 05, 2011, 03:21:47 am
Any other suggestions? :)
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Post by: kttdestroyer on February 05, 2011, 05:36:20 am
hmmm... Maybe Maybe a little less contrast? The other vechicles look a bit less contrastic.

Otherwise, very nice  8)
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Post by: Y0ssarian on February 05, 2011, 09:37:43 am
hi, DO NOT REPLACE, that is IMHO stupid. ADD MORE AND MORE. Diversity, that's what we really need.

I would put it as a reward for some Dungeon Quest, put it in the hidden storage room in stranded ship or something simillar. So you will have to do a quest to achieve it. May be pay some decent cash for a map how to get to the ship in the first place? That would be avesome.

Definitely YES, keep working.

btw, there needs to be more quest like the stranded ship...

edit: the concept of calling them "dungeon quest" is appropiate.
Title: Re: Stereotypical Bike. Yeah, A BIKE.
Post by: NastyKhan on February 06, 2011, 01:13:16 pm
hmmm... Maybe Maybe a little less contrast? The other vechicles look a bit less contrastic.

Hmm tried. And failed :/ Bike becomes gray and VERY bright. I tried reduce both contrast and brightness but then it just becomes too dark. Also while messing with contrast - shadow looses it's deep black colour. I'll try few things more though.

EDIT:
Hmm.. i think that depends on environment lighting. On those "day" screen shots (desert and hub) bikes looks ok. But during dusk (near hummer) it just looks to bright. When i reduce lightness to fit darker ambiance it becomes too dark for daylight scenario though.. if you know what i mean ;)
Also bike is a little more sharp than the rest, cos it's a good quality PNG pasted into shitty JPG. That's why it looks so fake.


Any other suggestions, people?
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Post by: Cryptopsy on February 16, 2011, 07:55:32 pm
Is there any possibility that we may ever see this in fonline???
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Post by: LagMaster on February 16, 2011, 08:03:58 pm
Is there any possibility that we may ever see this in fonline???
probably if we make a 3D model
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Post by: Cryptopsy on February 16, 2011, 08:12:24 pm
probably if we make a 3D model

But in order for this to happen, teh mods and/or devs have to make that possible with a motorcycle salesman in the game etc..., right?
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Post by: Archaeon_dude on February 18, 2011, 05:13:31 am
 A dude must think of the canon. In Old Fallout we saw the thingy of havin' a vehicle as a very, very lucky exception. Gettin' a car and bike dealer is a posibility, but these should be few and getting a vehicle should be at least a mild pain in the ass. If it became accessible all of a sudden it would change game dynamics a lot and the oldschool feel... slowly disappearing. I dunno what direction this game will take, I am confused. I think it should keep the adventurous survival feel instead of going into an exuberant postapocalyptic community.
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Post by: Cryptopsy on February 18, 2011, 01:14:47 pm
A dude must think of the canon. In Old Fallout we saw the thingy of havin' a vehicle as a very, very lucky exception. Gettin' a car and bike dealer is a posibility, but these should be few and getting a vehicle should be at least a mild pain in the ass. If it became accessible all of a sudden it would change game dynamics a lot and the oldschool feel... slowly disappearing. I dunno what direction this game will take, I am confused. I think it should keep the adventurous survival feel instead of going into an exuberant postapocalyptic community.

I disagree. If a Nuclear Apocalypse were actually a thing of our past and we were in such a "wastelandish" atmosphere, we would be focused on rebuilding humanity, right? THen this game should be as realistic as possible. As of now, it is only becoming "how many noobs you can PK and take all their SMGs just to be a pain in the ass." Where's the progress with this game? Would we honestly just stop trying to advance?

I love Fallout games and I love the idea behind them even more. I think they should even make a movie! But not if the movie is about 6 or 7 guys standing at the entrance of Hub all day, talking about their class schedule or mom's spaghetti... which is what this game is. People are turning FOnline into a virtual chat room. And we needs ways to spruce it up!
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Post by: Archaeon_dude on February 18, 2011, 03:39:23 pm
SO maybe accesible but hard to keep up?
As discussed over them car thingies, bikes should be something to steal or destroy.

Imma make another -maybe I'm pushin' it- question.

¿Does anyone have any idea of what Devs have planned for vehicles? ¿What kind of vehicles we talkin' bout?
¿Vehicles that immdiately take you to world map or is it a more BOS kind of vehicle (movin in the cities, towns, encounters, able to hold a crew and some guns)?
This game is becoming too nifty. It could be dangerous; but I likey.
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Post by: Eternauta on February 18, 2011, 04:00:09 pm
I love Fallout games and I love the idea behind them even more. I think they should even make a movie! But not if the movie is about 6 or 7 guys standing at the entrance of Hub all day, talking about their class schedule or mom's spaghetti... which is what this game is. People are turning FOnline into a virtual chat room. And we needs ways to spruce it up!

Fallout movie would be about the Vault Dweller/s battle against the Master / the Chosen One's quest to save Arroyo.

FOnline movie would be about some kids gridcamping. Maybe spìce that up with some trolol on radio 0.
Title: Re: Stereotypical Bike. Yeah, A BIKE.
Post by: Cryptopsy on February 18, 2011, 04:30:30 pm
Fallout movie would be about the Vault Dweller/s battle against the Master / the Chosen One's quest to save Arroyo.

FOnline movie would be about some kids gridcamping. Maybe spìce that up with some trolol on radio 0.

Very true about the FOnline movie.

But could you imagine all the possibilities in a Fallout Movie? Especially the amount of sequels? Side stories, etc.

Anyways, back on topic. I think the motorcycle is the perfect new addition to the FOnline world.
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Post by: Cryptopsy on February 18, 2011, 06:55:32 pm
German ww2 bmw with sidecar, SS trooper, MG42 and hakenkroic would be much cooler. xD

NOOOOO SIDECAR. PLEASE