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Title: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: cannotspace on December 31, 2010, 06:45:06 pm
Remove it

Inb4 "wasteland is harsh derp derp derp"

1 - Have fun not having new players, seeing old players leaving and playing alone in the "harsh wasteland"
2 - It only promotes griefing
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: Schwartz on December 31, 2010, 08:05:50 pm
Its not hard to get yourself 900+ karma, so stop crying and just do it.
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: Michaelh139 on December 31, 2010, 08:10:06 pm
Its not hard to get yourself 900+ karma, so stop crying and just do it.
Although i dont have this problem, I am going to say that, if you cannot survive in city for more than 10 seconds, how can get that much karma to not die without dying.
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: Schwartz on December 31, 2010, 08:34:01 pm
Enter at vortis? :P
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: Floodnik on December 31, 2010, 08:34:14 pm
Hm, mostly the Vortis-side etrance is safe, also the bluesuit-cleaners don't have the entire day, you know.
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: JmanDong on December 31, 2010, 10:38:08 pm
I've tried entering at Vortis but then assholes who sit up there yell "BLUESUITS AT VORTIS!" then you get killed instantaneously.
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: Floodnik on December 31, 2010, 10:42:51 pm
You've not just entered and went to your destination, you were STANDING at Vortis. For a little while. And the assholes weren't CAMPING, they did a SMALL CHECK if there's someone here. Normally, you just pass into the city...
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: Alvarez on December 31, 2010, 11:03:28 pm
It's not harshness if some kills another guy JUST LIKE THAT and get away with it.
It's nonsense.
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: Gunduz on January 01, 2011, 04:14:22 am
Are people getting high rep from trading and healing npcs? If so, then I propose that these actions can only raise it to a certain level. That way you'd actually have to do quests and such instead of grinding on trading and healing.
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: Reginmund on January 01, 2011, 04:37:51 am
as far as i know trading only gets you as high as 1000 rep or is that only at vc? havent tried trading much at NCR for reasons we all should know  8)
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: smoothjesus on January 01, 2011, 04:59:04 am
Just went to NCR with a  level 1 character, was killed on my way out of town (and looted of course.)

- Exploiting a bug or abusing of a feature (this includes security failures in guarded towns).
- Slowing down the beta process by being clearly not focused on testing properly the game or preventing other people to test it properly.

The last part "preventing other people to test it properly." in particular.
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: cannotspace on January 02, 2011, 12:55:08 am
Its not hard to get yourself 900+ karma, so stop crying and just do it.


oh right, new players get 900+ karma just like that

you must be some sort of genius
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: cannotspace on January 02, 2011, 01:11:37 am
I dont give a fuck about new players. They can kill some scorpions and trade with tails or something :P

omg ur like so hardcore!!!1
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: kttdestroyer on January 03, 2011, 05:23:16 am
I am not really often in protected towns those days, but if Idolized works as immunity then its just broken. No matter of reputation if someone commits a crime guards should act accordinately. It doesint make sense otherwise.
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: DarkOne on January 03, 2011, 06:29:17 pm
The only thing i seem to read is....i got killed at NCR

that is the only town anyone seems to have problems with...

my suggestion... STAY OUT OF NCR!!!!

you can easily go to junktown or the hub or even the boneyard (much better places IMO)

if you keep getting killed at NCR why do you keep going back!!!! and also don't just sit at the bazaar or vortis...
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: avv on January 03, 2011, 06:40:07 pm
my suggestion... STAY OUT OF NCR!!!!

That's as good as "l2p" comment.

The point here is that a feature isn't working as it's supposed to.
Idolized means that a character is respected member of society. Does killing other visitors randomly sound like something a respected member of civilized society would do? Especially member of nation like NCR whiches laws are based on the pre war USA's.
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: Ruby on January 04, 2011, 05:38:19 pm
I agree, Idolized is overpowered, One shouldn't be outside of the law just because they are respected by a bunch of shopkeepers.
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: cannotspace on January 04, 2011, 06:45:54 pm
I agree, Idolized is overpowered, One shouldn't be outside of the law just because they are respected by a bunch of shopkeepers.
exactly
They should get better prices, or bypass the 3ch requirement to speak with NPCs, but killing? no
Title: Re: Remove the bullshit idolized protection
Post by: 5me0 on January 05, 2011, 08:49:33 am
Agreed,
This feature is over-powered and prone to epic abuse, as can be seen.

For all the haters with "l2p" and "suggestion" remarks, remember that this game is a beta, and all of us, you included, have a duty to report exploits and make the game better for all of us.