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Title: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Eternauta on December 07, 2010, 03:03:25 pm
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I guess the title explains it all. I think I am not the only one who is kinda sick about this bluesuit view. I mean, we aren't vault dwellers in FOnline... or if we were, I bet we would have changed those vault suits for something else by the time we start the game. And if we are vault dwellers, what vault are we all from? Why does it present this degree of massive desertion? Not to mention that some bluesuits (for example Long haired dudes) have the number 13 on their back.

Anyway, you could say the main reason I suggest this is aesthetics. I don't like how those clean blue vault suits look. And I will never ask devs to make suit look dirty, covered with sand, torn, or whatever... just change it to Leather Jacket.

I know that if this is implemented, next time you see a guy in Leather Jacket (if you don't have Awareness that is) you will be unable to know  if he is unarmored or wearing (Combat) Leather Jacket, but, seriously, who cares? especially when without Awareness you can't tell if that bluesuit is unarmed or has a Plasma grenade with your name on it in his hands.

Why leather jacket? It's the only kind of armor which looks like regular clothes. And it's tier 1, so the situation I mention in the paragraph above will not be so severe. I guess that the same goes for Leather Armor skin, but I prefer the Jacket because the Leather Armor actually looks like an armor, while the jacket, as already said, looks like regular clothes.

I remember that thread Surf Solar made, about an appearance mod which changed bluesuits for sandrobes. The mod was really nice but when I shovelled shit my robes turned into a bluesuit and it was kinda weird. Anyway, in that thread I suggested to make the sandrobe the default unarmored skin and Solar* replied that they would probably work on the Tribal skin to make it the default... Alright, that would look really awesome. But it sure sounds like a heck of a lot of work for the Devs (remember that tirbal skin supports only unarmed, spear and greanade I think), so why don't we all simply look like Mad Max by default while the Devs work on other things they have in mind?

*Edit: I searched the thread and it wasn't Solar who told me that, but Wipe. Here is a link to that thread if you are interested: http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=9335.0
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Mars Sultan on December 07, 2010, 05:56:21 pm
The tribal skin can use smgs as well, if Sulik bursting me several times in FO2 is any indication. Sledgehammers too, as I recall.
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Solar on December 07, 2010, 06:24:10 pm
An Ode to the lost Tribal project ... where art though lost animations?!  :'(
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Surf on December 07, 2010, 06:35:48 pm
.Pixote. on the NMA forum is working currently on them. God bless him. ;) Everyone can help with it though, it doesnt need skills, only patience.
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Solar on December 07, 2010, 07:35:46 pm
Did he retain any of our skin projects stuff? They had most of it done
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Eternauta on December 07, 2010, 07:39:47 pm
The tribal skin can use smgs as well, if Sulik bursting me several times in FO2 is any indication. Sledgehammers too, as I recall.

Sulik uses a different skin. Just check his hair.
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Surf on December 07, 2010, 07:40:15 pm
Did he retain any of our skin projects stuff? They had most of it done

I don't know, but I think he makes them from scratch. I'll PM him then. ;)
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Eternauta on December 09, 2010, 06:59:05 am
I think I have seen some of the works by .Pixote., but I haven't been to NMA for a long time. If the skins I have seen (Evil Cassidy, "old" Ian, etc.) are made by .Pixote. then I bet the missing animations for the tribal dude will be simply awesome.

But... hmm... If he is taking too long, could we wear Leather Jackets while waiting for the job to be done? I don't have anything against Tribal skin, in fact I think it would look very good, and could even replace the LJ later. I am against the Vault suit skin as it just, I don't know, doesn't look the way a wasteland scavenger and wanderer would look like.
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: NastyKhan on December 09, 2010, 07:57:35 pm
I just.. Agree.
It should be changeable as hair.

1. Speak to NPC.
2. Ask about changing clothes.
3. Pick leather jacket/tribal.
4. Pay 50 or 100 caps.
5. Done


And Bluesuit as default skin for 1-2lvl chars.
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Reiniat on December 09, 2010, 08:05:01 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
thats trash

if everyone look like mad max, none be mad max

maybe if the devs really going to do the "2.5D" they can make tribal and sand robes as default

or maybe a blue suit "siniestrado" be good

whatever let them like this, i have no problem with vault suit
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: NastyKhan on December 09, 2010, 08:09:49 pm
if everyone look like mad max, none be mad max

Hmm.. Good point. I might be wrong then.
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Eternauta on December 10, 2010, 06:39:12 am
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
thats trash

if everyone look like mad max, none be mad max


I don't understand how that would be a good argument to continue use blue suits.

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maybe if the devs really going to do the "2.5D" they can make tribal and sand robes as default

or maybe a blue suit "siniestrado" be good

whatever let them like this, i have no problem with vault suit


Whatever. But right now we still have two dimensions only. So let's talk about what we should look like while being two dimensional. When our characters get their third dimension, we can discuss their new looks, but not now.
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Tomowolf on December 10, 2010, 07:16:31 am
Don't change it - its the BLUESUIT history - we could give a try for it.... but noone will be cool like "bluesuit bomber"
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: wezu on December 10, 2010, 09:43:02 am
right now we still have two dimensions only. So let's talk about what we should look like while being two dimensional. When our characters get their third dimension, we can discuss their new looks, but not now.
Nonsens. There are no new, finished 2D characters, so there really is nothing to discuss.
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: runboy93 on December 10, 2010, 12:03:14 pm
maybe if the devs really going to do the "2.5D"...
They do it, but nothing is instant ready.
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Eternauta on December 10, 2010, 02:36:34 pm
Nonsens. There are no new, finished 2D characters, so there really is nothing to discuss.

Eh?

They do it, but nothing is instant ready.

Exactly. So just because we will "soon" get 3D skins, doesn't mean we can't make a little change to the  2D skins.
Title: Re: Leather Jacket as unarmored skin
Post by: Surf on December 10, 2010, 06:11:02 pm
It's something really low priority, so don't expect it to be made soon.
Making everyone a Leather Jacket Guy/Gal is a bad idea, imo.