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Title: Fallout art -pugilism, Power Armor...UPDATE! Adv.Power Armor!SHIT YAKUZA!
Post by: Cobra on December 06, 2010, 12:54:15 pm
Hi!

I'd like to show you a couple of drawings/paintings I have done.

Say what you say, but when you can pull it of its the most satisfying moment in fonline.
And I am talking about teaching good ol fashioned fear of god to gun wielding nerds.

The adrenaline pumps through your veins when you are running towards a gun man biting your teeth and sucking bullets like a sponge... you get closer and closer... you can only hope you wont get knocked to the floor before you get there... the pistol boy is reloading and already celebrating his sure to come noob ownage victory...
But in a blink of an eye you are in front of his shockened eyes and BADAM! All the frustration erupts in one quick moment. You are psyched. Haymaker lands on his face and you hear that beautiful sound when he falls to the ground like a wet noodle... tables have turned Pistol Pete...


(http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/pugilism10.jpg)

http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/pugilism10.jpg
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Post by: Surf on December 06, 2010, 12:59:29 pm
The anatomy of the chest of long haired guy looks (only a slight) bit wierd, but so far this is one of the best pictures I've seen on this forum here. It looks rather "realistic" and less cartoony, and the colorization is superb too.
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Post by: Crazy on December 06, 2010, 01:00:37 pm
Hehehe, really nice. The picture is awesome, and the text too.
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Post by: Y0ssarian on December 06, 2010, 01:01:57 pm
Nice.  :)
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Post by: Cobra on December 06, 2010, 01:13:26 pm
Thanks:)

Here is another one, hope you like it!

I aimed for a very gritty and dark feel in this power armor design. Just like I saw it in the original fallouts. I didnt like the "realistic" and puny power armors in fallout 3. For me power armor is freaking big, bulky and menacing...

(http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/power-armor-t51-b.jpg)

http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/power-armor-t51-b.jpg
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Post by: Crazy on December 06, 2010, 01:14:57 pm
Wowowowo! Your power armor is freaking AWESOME man! I love it.
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Post by: Surf on December 06, 2010, 01:15:27 pm
That's how a PA should look like! Do you plan to add a background to the drawing too?
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Post by: MACabra on December 06, 2010, 01:23:39 pm
Woah !  Your drawings are just... AWESOME !
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Post by: StephLeigh101 on December 06, 2010, 01:38:48 pm
awesome job dude :)
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Post by: Ghosthack on December 06, 2010, 02:48:44 pm
Good job, many talented artists around here lately :)
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Post by: vilaz on December 06, 2010, 03:05:15 pm
Pugilism illustrated Yeah! :D
Err... but that armor looks like female one to me :P. It does not compute with manly face of character.
 
PA looks heavy and massive but middle of it bothers me a little. Stomach gives me a feeling that it's unprotected or something.

But those are just little not important at all comments made by green in art kiddo. The one thing I wanted to say is... Wow... great work :D I feel jealous now :>
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Post by: Alvarez on December 06, 2010, 09:51:27 pm
Hi!

I'd like to show you a couple of drawings/paintings I have done.

Say what you say, but when you can pull it of its the most satisfying moment in fonline.
And I am talking about teaching good ol fashioned fear of god to gun wielding nerds.

The adrenaline pumps through your veins when you are running towards a gun man biting your teeth and sucking bullets like a sponge... you get closer and closer... you can only hope you wont get knocked to the floor before you get there... the pistol boy is reloading and already celebrating his sure to come noob ownage victory...
But in a blink of an eye you are in front of his shockened eyes and BADAM! All the frustration erupts in one quick moment. You are psyched. Haymaker lands on his face and you hear that beautiful sound when he falls to the ground like a wet noodle... tables have turned Pistol Pete...


That's... Poetry in motion!
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Post by: Cryofluid on December 06, 2010, 11:32:01 pm
Wow! Impressive and tense! :o
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Post by: runboy93 on December 07, 2010, 01:00:14 am
I never seen that anyone do PA that nice O_o
I can just imagine, if you are one of Fallout original art makers :D
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Post by: lisac2k on December 07, 2010, 01:57:55 am
The new God of an old, almost forgotten Art.

The PA is way beyond any words.
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Post by: Vindict on December 07, 2010, 03:23:06 am
I like both, but the power armor is amazing
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Post by: Michaelh139 on December 07, 2010, 03:26:54 am
I hope you get paid very much...   very very much.  Like... now.

More... :D
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Post by: Cobra on December 07, 2010, 08:45:25 am
That's how a PA should look like! Do you plan to add a background to the drawing too?

Thanks! I actually did put some very light metal texture on the background, but other than that I think it should be without background because its all about the Power Armor design here... or just because I suck at drawing backgrounds :)


Pugilism illustrated Yeah! :D
Err... but that armor looks like female one to me :P. It does not compute with manly face of character.
 
PA looks heavy and massive but middle of it bothers me a little. Stomach gives me a feeling that it's unprotected or something.

But those are just little not important at all comments made by green in art kiddo. The one thing I wanted to say is... Wow... great work :D I feel jealous now :>

Thanks for the input vilaz! But I would like to defense the small head a little. When the head is small it shows how big the actual armor is... I mean it shows armor size relation to normal human...if you get what I am trying to say :)

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Post by: Gazoil on December 07, 2010, 11:47:55 am
Woah ! This power armor looks fantastic ! Impressive job, man.
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Post by: Ox-Skull on December 07, 2010, 12:11:49 pm
The adrenaline pumps through your veins when you are running towards a gun man biting your teeth and sucking bullets like a sponge... you get closer and closer... you can only hope you wont get knocked to the floor before you get there... the pistol boy is reloading and already celebrating his sure to come noob ownage victory...
But in a blink of an eye you are in front of his shockened eyes and BADAM! All the frustration erupts in one quick moment. You are psyched. Haymaker lands on his face and you hear that beautiful sound when he falls to the ground like a wet noodle... tables have turned Pistol Pete...

I totally felt that punch!! :D
FREAKING awesome pic to bak up that little piece of writing there mate, nice work!.

Your PA looks very fallout, it made me think of FO1 and 2, You captured the feel perfectly.

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Post by: avv on December 07, 2010, 05:35:48 pm
I aimed for a very gritty and dark feel in this power armor design. Just like I saw it in the original fallouts. I didnt like the "realistic" and puny power armors in fallout 3. For me power armor is freaking big, bulky and menacing...

Now we're talking.
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Post by: Balthasar on December 07, 2010, 06:09:50 pm
*speechless* ;)...very nice...yet another fine artist as GH already mentioned.
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Post by: Jescri on December 07, 2010, 06:16:46 pm
I love your style !

Nice work !
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Post by: Izual on December 07, 2010, 09:21:39 pm
Jesus. Two masterpieces...!
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Post by: Surf on December 07, 2010, 09:32:48 pm
#1 Serves now as my wallpaper. :) Nothing beats a good picture of two guys punching in each other in the desert when you put on your PC. :D
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Post by: falloutdude on December 07, 2010, 09:58:51 pm
that power is crazy awesome wish i had one and that guy getting punch in the face is really good to. :)
Title: Re: Fallout art -pugilism, T-51b Power Armor...UPDATE! Adv.Power Armor!
Post by: Cobra on June 18, 2011, 01:44:28 pm
Here is Advanced Power Armor. Sleek and sexy

(http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/enclave-armor.jpg)
http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/enclave-armor.jpg
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Post by: LagMaster on June 18, 2011, 01:50:06 pm
awesome job man!
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Post by: Izual on June 18, 2011, 01:59:35 pm
So sexy! :D Astonishing, Cobra!

Even better when you place it next to your T-51b Power Armor. The two armors are really giving the same feeling, whereas they pretend to fight for different things - but we eventually figure out both are menacing and frightening.
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Post by: Surf on June 18, 2011, 02:01:22 pm
I like your attempts to create Power Armor pictures, an own style and certainly miles ahead above the usual "OMFG POWER ARMAR!111" like one can see it on so many other media.
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Post by: Solar on June 18, 2011, 02:06:52 pm
More, More!
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Post by: Perteks on June 18, 2011, 02:54:02 pm
Wow atleast i see good fanart of APA. This should be fucking big and scary for enemies and it is!
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Post by: LagMaster on June 18, 2011, 04:34:09 pm
i love the blood marks
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Post by: Trokanis on June 19, 2011, 04:03:49 am
Amazing job on all.  Any way you can have the guy in the T-51 drop a few pounds though, kinda looks like he spent too much time eating at Iguana Bob's.  ;)  Still BADASS coloring and style way to go.
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Post by: Trias on June 20, 2011, 06:56:10 pm
(http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/pugilism10.jpg)

Would you kindly post this in the 'Fix Melee Damage' thread to illustrate why the hell Gun users would take a beating from 1 hex.

Oh and amazing work!
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Post by: CaptOmg on June 20, 2011, 09:24:41 pm
Best art ive seen in months!
And I LOVE this artstyle.
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Post by: Biogitanus on June 22, 2011, 07:11:07 am
Cool work, more action scenes please!! :o
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Post by: T-888 on June 22, 2011, 01:03:35 pm
Cooool art :) , i want more could you make that pa standing with a minigun would be so epic.
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Post by: Cobra on June 27, 2011, 09:45:55 pm
Thanks a lot for the comments, it feels very good to get feedback!

I will do more!
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Post by: Gatling on June 29, 2011, 09:43:59 pm
Real nice art but one thing that bothers me in the first PA image is how the armor plating looks so ... clunky? It looks almost like a suit of platemail, I don't know how he'd manage to move around in it with it so 'solid' looking. Still damn good art, especially the first one (as I am at this minute on my own HtH char, which was rather nice timing-wise... BG still owns me but oh well).
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Post by: Eden2012 on June 30, 2011, 05:49:21 am
That APA pic is bad-epic-ass.
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Post by: Cobra on June 30, 2011, 09:21:16 am
Real nice art but one thing that bothers me in the first PA image is how the armor plating looks so ... clunky? It looks almost like a suit of platemail, I don't know how he'd manage to move around in it with it so 'solid' looking. Still damn good art, especially the first one (as I am at this minute on my own HtH char, which was rather nice timing-wise... BG still owns me but oh well).

Yeah you are right about that. In Fallout 3 they made PA more realistic in that apartment, but it lost everything else along the way... I just wanted to do PA that looks cool and as close as possible to the original fallouts, without overthinking how it could actually work. You know artistic freedom and such :)
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Post by: LagMaster on June 30, 2011, 01:18:43 pm
next is Lether Jacket?
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Post by: Cobra on June 30, 2011, 06:07:13 pm
next is Lether Jacket?

As a matter of fact there is a leather jacket(s) in the next picture!
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Post by: Grommok on June 30, 2011, 07:41:03 pm
Wow. APA. I could kiss you for that.
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Post by: Eden2012 on June 30, 2011, 09:07:18 pm
Wow. APA. I could kiss you for that.

I'd do unspeakable, unforgivable things for it.
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Post by: Grommok on July 01, 2011, 11:42:11 am
What kissing is for you?
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Post by: Johnnybravo on July 01, 2011, 04:42:42 pm
Yeah you are right about that. In Fallout 3 they made PA more realistic in that apartment, but it lost everything else along the way... I just wanted to do PA that looks cool and as close as possible to the original fallouts, without overthinking how it could actually work. You know artistic freedom and such :)
I think the problem is it does miss some details (you can see for example there's some supporting stuff on legs, this is barely visible in game sprite, but in intro cinematics it's apparent: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110125062642/fallout/images/d/d8/Fo1_Intro_Canadian_Freedom_Fighter.png) and it definetly looked a bit more lean.

However it is definetly a great piece of art, and there is not much of a source to base it on anyway.
Title: Re: Fallout art -pugilism, Power Armor...UPDATE! Adv.Power Armor! Shit Yakuza!
Post by: Cobra on July 15, 2011, 10:25:54 am
I found this little illustration from my computer.... this is pretty old and technically not my best, but I still like the atmosphere and maybe someone else too finds it charming :)
Some Fonlinesque dog eat dog action around Reno....
(http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/die.jpg)
http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/die.jpg

You encounter... Shit Yakuza!
This one is brand new drawing and I must say l am much more confident drawing with lines than painting.
(http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/yakuza.jpg)
http://juhosavolainen.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/yakuza.jpg
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Post by: Cryofluid on July 15, 2011, 12:22:18 pm
Wow! The first one has a so intense atmosphere!!!

No matter bad proportions of the car for instance, the setting is perfect!

=> a whole story, much feelings in a lone picture, congrats.
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Post by: spike allen on July 15, 2011, 04:16:57 pm
I like the second one. At first i tought the middle yakuza guy has a deer leg:D
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Post by: LagMaster on July 15, 2011, 11:24:28 pm
The Yakuza don't look so well, but the other image is awesome!
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Post by: Fizzle on July 16, 2011, 03:12:04 am
The Yakuza don't look so well, but the other image is awesome!
agreed.
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Post by: Cryptopsy on July 16, 2011, 01:28:44 pm
agreed.
I believe it's the shading on their clothes.
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Post by: Johnnybravo on July 16, 2011, 07:11:55 pm
agreed.
Quite contrary, I think it's fantastic picture. Feels like japanese paintings.
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Post by: Fizzle on July 17, 2011, 05:33:10 pm
I believe it's the shading on their clothes.

I agree with you.
Quite contrary, I think it's fantastic picture. Feels like japanese paintings.

Its a good picture but something seems missing in it to me, doesnt seem quite finished.
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Post by: Josh on August 13, 2011, 06:20:02 am
Its a good picture but something seems missing in it to me, doesnt seem quite finished.
I think its a great picture but maybe it needs to have a rising sun in background.
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Post by: Fizzle on August 26, 2011, 03:37:55 am
Now that would be bad ass.
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Post by: Cobra on September 05, 2011, 08:20:15 am
Thanks for the valuable feedback! I will try adding rising sun in to the background and do something with their shading
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Post by: 700noob007 on September 05, 2011, 10:10:35 am
I tweaked with advance power armor  ::) Gave it a little bit more evil feel

(http://oi53.tinypic.com/f3t45j.jpg)
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Post by: Haraldx on September 05, 2011, 03:55:34 pm
Why is everyone lately so much on explosions in background?  :-\
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Post by: Grzesiu on September 05, 2011, 04:25:07 pm
They  are NCR bombers for sure!
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Post by: avv on September 08, 2011, 03:16:48 pm
It's not necessarily explosion but smoke and bright light in the background.
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Post by: Grommok on September 08, 2011, 05:57:06 pm
It's not necessarily explosion but smoke and bright light in the background.
As far i know, smoke and bright light is the usual result of an explosion. I might be wrong, but usually it goes that way.
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Post by: shenglu on September 23, 2011, 03:52:04 am
It looks almost like a suit of armor, I do not know how to manage the move, in such a "solid" look. Damn good art, especially the first one (as I have at this moment, I myself HTH character, this is a good time wise.
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Post by: Paul (Rus) on October 11, 2011, 01:28:29 pm
Cool! Very good art!
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Post by: Alexandrite on November 28, 2011, 04:15:22 am
These are pretty good, makes Fallout 2238 look cooler in 3D...
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Post by: Lizard on January 08, 2012, 08:55:22 pm
You know, pugilism is pretty much the symbol of this update.
Beautiful picture.
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Post by: Erebos on January 21, 2012, 02:40:08 am
The first picture is amasing! The second one, the only problem is the head is too small, other than that it is also amasing!
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Post by: LagMaster on January 21, 2012, 08:33:24 am
btw, tried to make something to advertize us
(http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/116/fonline2238.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/fonline2238.jpg/)

any opinion?
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Post by: Andr3aZ on January 23, 2012, 12:43:48 pm
Left side has white border. FOnline logo is stretched and pixelated thus doesn't fit the sharp picture of cobra. Not a good advertisement, but use as you like as long as the copyright owners of both elements allow you to.
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Post by: LagMaster on January 23, 2012, 08:11:44 pm
(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/116/fonline2238.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/fonline2238.jpg/)

fixed, i hope
so, are the artist of these 2 banners alow me to use them for advertising this game?
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Post by: HeavyGuy on January 28, 2012, 04:11:18 pm
*my opnion*

Still bad, Fonline logo is in bad quality while the drawing is in very high quality.

And you are doing the redim wrong, when u expand or reduce a pic it have to be proportional.
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Post by: Lizard on January 28, 2012, 04:33:03 pm
How about adding some wrinkles, scratches and yellow and make it look like a ancient flyer? Also, some funky slogan would be cool.
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Post by: Who Killed Bambi on January 29, 2012, 05:27:20 pm
(http://53.imagebam.com/download/1xNAGuYj0PIPegHKOjLung/17223/172228930/1.jpg)

:D
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Post by: arigatou on April 01, 2012, 05:39:34 am
Although the T-51 drop guy in any way, you can have a few pounds, kinda looks like he spent too much time to eat at Iguana Bob. Also of BADASS color and style to go.