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Title: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Jhazard on November 28, 2010, 01:09:21 am
ok so, to mess with the players, radiation stays after death, yet everything good is gone (GENIUS MOVE!)

with extremely low stats and no items, you die constantly and rarely NPCs have radaway

Smart move
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Ganado on November 28, 2010, 01:15:10 am
So... what's your suggestion. You're just complaining without a solution.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Jhazard on November 28, 2010, 01:21:27 am
pretty obvious, if we lose ALL when we die we should lose radiation

of course some people will think that itll make radaways useless, but keeping radiation after death just to make radawys useful... WOW... just wow
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Surf on November 28, 2010, 02:27:42 am
Just take a handfull of caps (700 if I remember correctly) and go to a doctor, like in nearly each town. They will make your radiation go *poof*.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Ganado on November 28, 2010, 02:47:22 am
Well, right now it just depends on your level. The cost should depend on the amount of Rads you need taken away (and HP gained). Right now, if you are level 21, it always costs over 1000 caps, even if you have literally 1 rad, which is just a waste unless you just re-spawned with almost full radiation.

Also, RadAway should be more abundant, I agree. Also, having to be a part of VC to craft it makes you at a disadvantage, but hopefully that won't be an issue when NPC faction features are implemented.

But to your suggested way, that would just take us back a step, and there should still be consequences. Hopefully devs plan to implement more features that involve radiation, besides just kill-robot places like Glow (mining site near glow anyone?)
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Surf on November 28, 2010, 03:10:40 am

But to your suggested way, that would just take us back a step, and there should still be consequences. Hopefully devs plan to implement more features that involve radiation, besides just kill-robot places like Glow (mining site near glow anyone?)

http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=4511.0

:P

Wichura also made a nice map for it.

And yes, I agree, the robots in Glow are way too easy to kill.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: JovankaB on November 28, 2010, 10:32:13 am
ok so, to mess with the players, radiation stays after death, yet everything good is gone (GENIUS MOVE!)

with extremely low stats and no items, you die constantly and rarely NPCs have radaway

Smart move

1. Don't go to Glow
2. Don't get hit by aliens or other radiating enemies. All of them are melee and easy to avoid.
3. Don't eat radiated fruits -.-

Seriously, is it THAT hard?
If you don't have friends, items, money, or anything to help you heal radiation do the box job a couple times and go to NPC doctor.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: kttdestroyer on November 28, 2010, 11:36:25 am
I am not sure the game was ready for making rad stay after death. Prices in Docs are too high in my opinion. They could also depend on what level you are. I would think half the current price is more then enough. 95% of people that loose on it, are the ones that are leveling. I am unsure of any higher point in this radiation=cost as it only happends in practis when you are leveling, its not like the plasma weapons give radiation to their targets.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Surf on November 29, 2010, 12:50:00 am
Doc cost too high? Are you kidding? The game is throwing you caps in your face everywhere you go and its easy to get the caps for a quick visit in the hospital.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: kttdestroyer on November 29, 2010, 01:06:20 am
Well, you cant just exchange items for caps when ever you want. The trader must have cash on him first. And you must have money on the char you are leveling... Well, i think its a lot running without a porpose somehow. In my opinion it would be better if Docs sold rad-away always (dunno if its the case allready?) for a set price in unlimited amounts.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: JovankaB on November 29, 2010, 01:10:43 am
Yea let's remove all difficulty from this game, leveling up is way to hard -.-
Maybe rad-away should spawn in your pocket automatically when you get radiated.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Michaelh139 on November 29, 2010, 01:17:39 am
Yea let's remove all difficulty from this game, leveling up is way to hard -.-
Maybe rad-away should spawn in your pocket automatically when you get radiated.
Besides that the devs want a player driven economy so such a feature would only hold us back.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Surf on November 29, 2010, 01:29:41 am
You can make thousands of caps, alone or in a small group, in one, two days. And thats without cheating etc. It's really piss easy to get the caps. So yes I agree with Jovanka. I wouldn't call leveling etc. even "difficult", it's still way too easy.
If something should change, then it's the game throwing loads of caps at you.
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Besides that the devs want a player driven economy so such a feature would only hold us back.

Jovanka was only being sarcastic, my dear yankee friend. :P
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Michaelh139 on November 29, 2010, 01:56:27 am
Jovanka was only being sarcastic, my dear yankee friend. :P
Sarcastic or not Jovanka was trying to make a point and thats what i was responding to.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: wezu on November 29, 2010, 10:07:56 am
So could you tell me where all those caps are?
Say you have near fatal radiation level (how low can your stats go?) and you are below lv 10 with no gear nor tent nor gang to back you up.
Sure ain't gonna make tons of caps lifting boxes and playing with poo.
With spears?
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: OskaRus on November 29, 2010, 01:59:20 pm
So could you tell me where all those caps are?
Say you have near fatal radiation level (how low can your stats go?) and you are below lv 10 with no gear nor tent nor gang to back you up.
Sure ain't gonna make tons of caps lifting boxes and playing with poo.
With spears?

Solution is easy man. Make tent, tons of alts. buy car and base and u are ok.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: wezu on November 29, 2010, 02:16:17 pm
Solution is easy man. Make tent, tons of alts. buy car and base and u are ok.

Oh, yeah, how stupid of me. Why didn't I think of that? And let me guess... to make 1000 caps per hour I only need a bank account, 10mln caps on in? 
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: avv on November 29, 2010, 02:47:45 pm
So could you tell me where all those caps are?
Say you have near fatal radiation level (how low can your stats go?) and you are below lv 10 with no gear nor tent nor gang to back you up.
Sure ain't gonna make tons of caps lifting boxes and playing with poo.
With spears?

That's pretty much the worst case scenario. You CAN eventually get the caps to pay a doctor by lifting boxes. Do the quest, hide the money, die, repeat. Takes time but it's gonna take a damn effort to put yourself in such state that at >level ten you have no tent, no money, no bank account but somehow have bigass radiation. Suffice to say if someone is at such state, he has fucked himself up.
Title: Re: so new players need to make new chars when they get radiated?
Post by: Mars Sultan on November 29, 2010, 04:17:29 pm
ok so, to mess with the players--

Nah, just to mess with you. If you'd stop stealing Jimmy's pokemon cards in social studies this wouldn't happen