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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Faction Announcements => Topic started by: maszrum on October 21, 2010, 06:48:43 pm
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Hello all Wastelanders,
We, the citizens of Broken Hills, would like to announce that since today, our city is open to everyone - to those who would like to live there, trade there and use surrounding facilities, or just spend some time in a local bar.
The safety of our town is assured by its citizens, militia and the allies of Broken Hills - The Rogues and Klamath Shadows
Of course, some regulations apply and have to be respected by all citizens.
The first and the most important: do not offend any other citizens, don't steal, and especially, don't start any fight without a good reason!
If you have some issues with other people or factions, then you have to settle them outside the borders of our town, as attacking other people is forbidden.
The only exception are members of chosen soldiers faction - who are "personae non gratae" in our town and are likely to be killed on sight upon entering it.
Also, everyone who is breaking our rules will be tagged red and killed on sight - so think twice before causing any problems.
We are peaceful in our town, so if you need help, money, a weapon or just a safe place to stay - we will be glad to help you ;)
If you're looking for more information, just visit us in Broken Hills !
Our radio channel is #2010
Our IRC channel is #brokenhills
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Maybe Modoc Militia Should try help with this project.
More People in RP project = More fun :)
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Maybe Modoc Militia Should try help with this project.
More People in RP project = More fun :)
i realy like this progression :)
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i do not like this, you kill everyone and expect them to trust your openness... :-\
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Just come and check ;)
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I've been there, they packed that place down with security big time, 612 hp mutant with Laser rifle, another with 500 and LSW, they allow anyone to come and go without getting shot and even provide mining escorts and help you mine if they have the cooldown to use.
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I've been there, they packed that place down with security big time, 612 hp mutant with Laser rifle, another with 500 and LSW, they allow anyone to come and go without getting shot and even provide mining escorts and help you mine if they have the cooldown to use.
they wouldn´t open this tread if that weren´t the case.
jeah.. probaly it became boring with the time to kill every pixel on sight.. :)
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I've been there, they packed that place down with security big time, 612 hp mutant with Laser rifle, another with 500 and LSW, they allow anyone to come and go without getting shot and even provide mining escorts and help you mine if they have the cooldown to use.
I bet if that mutant dies its owner will cry, must be near max level with that much hp.
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Hello.
Could you tell me I dug iron ores and minerals hq without problems in Broken Hills? I don't want making problems to you. I only need some hq shit :)
Broken Hills is chosen soldiers at the moment so it's bad.
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I bet if that mutant dies its owner will cry, must be near max level with that much hp.
Mutants get HP bonus when placed as militia.
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Hello.
Could you tell me I dug iron ores and minerals hq without problems in Broken Hills? I don't want making problems to you. I only need some hq shit :)
Broken Hills is chosen soldiers at the moment so it's bad.
When Rogues or Broken Hills Hunter have city of course - you can try i think ;p
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Mutants get HP bonus when placed as militia.
Yet other mercenaries don't? RACISM!
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Watch out, roleplay seems to be limited to certain members of BH Hunters.
EDIT : but hey, they gave stuff back so who cares. Plenty of fun to be had there, too bad its hard to protect from killers.
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Hmm not really that safe...just lost 12 HQ ore. I'll try again later.
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before you enter to broken hills, check who is actually controling city. if that is brokenhillshunters - you can feel safe
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Yeah noted...I had saved and exited while I was in the mine (while they were controlling) and just kept logging in and mining and logging out. Finally this morning decided to leave and go back to the tent, of course 3 hexs away from exiting the mine I get shot. Not the smartest idea, but oh well, pretty funny nonetheless!
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It's not that safe even if the BH hunters control the town. Got shot yesterday by... well You know them, I don't really have to call them by their chosen name :P
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it is so easy to destroy instead of creating something.. >:(
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it is so easy to destroy instead of creating something.. >:(
Agree
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yea.. we (players )cant do anything without developers hlep, its sad but true.
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yea.. we (players )cant do anything without developers hlep, its sad but true.
I don't agree, and if we show them we are not a band of Quake player that will probably motive them to add some feature we want.
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So what about supporting project of wasteland polis?
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Ok I'm BHH member. Feel free to Pm me for questions | suggestions.
To prevent murdering in town while we guarding it.
What am I suggest:
All free to come to BH when its under control. If you suddenly killed, please make a screen shot. If you was killed by garrison for some reason (marked as red, thievery, killing innocents at BH) but you feel you're innocent, make a screenshot and you inventory please iin case you want to get compensation.
So we may notice killers and prevent butchering by newbie guards.
Shopping is safe enough, but mining... Lets say we patrol mines if we have enough manpower. But in case you want to dig, it is better to inform any security officer. I case you were Pked at mines, please report here or on irc and if it possible to BH security officer or at 2010 radio channel.
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brokenhills city slowly growing, people form different countries comes to bh for defending this place and live there.. but we are still very limited by NC
new guys dont know who is enemy, who is firends and who is who - thats make some confusion.
yesterday antipk alliance (tttla+vsb+hawks) tried to attack BH.. that was mistake - killing citizens, militians and neutral players. you have been consider as enemies of the city and you are no logner welcome in brokenhills.. ofcoruse we cant recognize and remember everone form your coalition..
we really need NC!
you can find us @ IRC
Server: irc.forestnet.org
Port: 6667
#Brokenhills - official channel of BH city
#EE - Rogues channel
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Its really cool to see people settle in unguarded citys and form a community. As this is a little dream of myself for fonline and a basic "yay-thought" when i discovered this MMO-Mod.
I will visit from time to time with my Modoc-Char and maybe we could do some interaction with both towns.
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yesterday antipk alliance (tttla+vsb+hawks) tried to attack BH..
And you know very well why.
WE dont need to be in certain city to no murder unknown people, as opposite to you, Rogues. And you can do as many false propaganda as you want (.../quote: killing citizens, militians and neutral players.... lol).
Since you dont respect our City, Redding, i dont see why Outlaws should feel safe in BH.
We dont kill everything that moves, so non-Outlaws dont have to feel unsecure. But every Outlaw will be shoot down. Even in BH.
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Thats a fucked up pseudo morality, I have to say.
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That's a fucked up pseudo comment, i have to say.
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Problem is, TC and wars between gangs are major factors why such player driven towns get crushed or become enemies of certain factions.
Now TC and gangwars are part of fonline. Sad thing player driven towns aren't part the same as TC and gangwars.
When Modoc Militia tried to start again we had tons of Rogues and Chosen Soldiers there killing citizens, militians and neutral players.
Some spared me because of the farmer model (after killing me 5 times they realized i am no threat).
Some were nice and talked to me, but some are just killing everyone. Thats TC. Bluesuits and unknown players die. Known other faction members you are at war with die too. personaly, i think entering a town, killing everyone and then say "hey we put you under our protection if you pay" is pretty dumb logically. But thats game mechanism and you can't blame anyone for doin so because everyone could be a spy/bomber or pulling out a minigun at a certain moment.
TC ruins player driven towns as nobody would enter and say "hey there citizens, we just want TC, peace" - in the end incoming enemy faction members who try to prevent TC of the other faction would trigger a battlefield in which everyone would be shot at if he isnt your faction/alliance member.
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One day MSH ask me to dont attack BH to support RP project, I give him a clear anwser : Ok. A week after we ask to have the same support to make something like Oprhans make in Den, like Modoc Militia (we have a lot of former Modoc Militia in our coalition), like Cajuns make in Klamath (the old Cajuns of NA time), like VSB/HAWK make in Gecko, like TTTLA make in Bh last session and we got 0 clear anwser. Last day they start the TC in Redding...
Yes you win last night in BH, but like you see in the past 2 weeks we will have no problem to change de situation, if you want to do every thing your way without negociation we will push you out of BH like we did last session.
To all people who support this project, you know us, you know them... bad to say but you will have to make a choice - Redding or Broken Hill.
To Broken Hill Hunter is still time to negociate, we wait you on IRC.
LeMark
Qui vit par le feu meur par le feu.
Who live with fire die with fire.
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One day MSH ask me to dont attack BH to support RP project, I give him a clear anwser : Ok. A week after we ask to have the same support to make something like Oprhans make in Den, like Modoc Militia (we have a lot of former Modoc Militia in our coalition), like Cajuns make in Klamath (the old Cajuns of NA time), like VSB/HAWK make in Gecko, like TTTLA make in Bh last session and we got 0 clear anwser. Last day they start the TC in Redding...
Yes you win last night in BH, but like you see in the past 2 weeks we will have no problem to change de situation, if you want to do every thing your way without negociation we will push you out of BH like we did last session.
To all people who support this project, you know us, you know them... bad to say but you will have to make a choice - Redding or Broken Hill.
To Broken Hill Hunter is still time to negociate, we wait you on IRC.
LeMark
Qui vit par le feu meur par le feu.
Who live with fire die with fire.
I think you are wrong and dont understand situation.
The Rogues NOT owners of the BH, we dont recieve money or another contribution from city, we are only securing and helping there, so you attacked the peaceful city not us.
Very good LeMark to have double standards, so you just want to own redding and recieve money?
We have no choice but to respond to this aggression aimed at the peaceful rp town, and support citizens.
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I think you are wrong and dont understand situation.
The Rogues NOT owners of the BH, we dont recieve money or another contribution from city, we are only securing and helping there, so you attacked the peaceful city not us.
Very good LeMark to have double standards, so you just want to own redding and recieve money?
We have no choice but to respond to this aggression aimed at the peaceful rp town, and support citizens.
Nobody is talkaing about any money. Where did you found anything about that? The problem is that you wanted to do the project, which I like&support. But when the TTTLA wanted the Redding for their project, btw. which would secure Broken Hills quite a lot, there was no real answer. Pack up your money propaganda and tell it someone who believes it.
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I think you are wrong and dont understand situation.
The Rogues NOT owners of the BH, we dont recieve money or another contribution from city, we are only securing and helping there, so you attacked the peaceful city not us.
Very good LeMark to have double standards, so you just want to own redding and recieve money?
We have no choice but to respond to this aggression aimed at the peaceful rp town, and support citizens.
Rogue and Broken Hill hunters is same for us atm. They fight with you in BH and out of BH. They make PK like you.
For the monay we dont give a shit, we already have more than we can spend like any other faction.
For the peaceful rp player must of them are in our coalition, I am on BH irc channal right now and half (maybe more) are from our alliance. You dont get all the support we give to this project, in term of protection (killing CS / Pk in BH) and in term of participation to the town RP. We ask only one thing, be able to make another RP town, can be the first session with 2 real peacefull town supported by 2 of the 3 North TC faction. But because you just want blood you decide to take Redding in first time...
This RP project will not neccesary die, but if you dont want to negociate and you accept only what come from you that will happen without you.... again.
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LeMark, seriously ?
time to explain and clear a few things, shame i need to do that on forum.
yes i asked you for some support with this RP project, mostly RP help! and for not taking over the city in the middle of the night, as you like to do, when most of us are sleeping.. and we just cant help BHH.
really.. we haven't seen you guarding BH, patrolling mine!
if you reall want to taking over BH at nights - ok. that will be vicious circle, becouse you cant harm BH in middle of day and evnings
.. and you liked it, wanted to do something similar in the Redding - ok, lets bring back life to northen cities.. that was my answer and you know it.
we have waited over a week on your plans about Redding, and ? you did nothing! how we can make an agreement in this situation ? Redding is one of our main sources of caps, we cant just give you city in which will be empty, without any plans for developing.
edit: yes we need caps, for different things. we are not crafters and traders, tc is our main source of money
and caps are alwasy needed, even for running RP projects
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Thats a fucked up pseudo morality, I have to say.
Hmm ...
Thanks for your opinion about it.
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we have waited over a week on your plans about Redding, and ? you did nothing! how we can make an agreement in this situation ? Redding is one of our main sources of caps, we cant just give you city in which will be empty, without any plans for developing.
I see 2 points in your argumentation – caps and action.
For the action, how can you doubt of our project with the past we have? We don’t do that much in past week in Redding because it was not safe and we need time. Not safe because except maybe 1 day you never really stop attacked this city, need time because like I said Gazoil is working on a Fan Arts to start the project.
For the caps WTF? You really need more caps? If yes ask BHH to pay you for the security.
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MSH,
you probably know that at least half the Community is also playing Fallout New Vegas, so it's damn hard for us to set up our Project. Moreover most of our Role Players are busy, or waiting for the next update, so it takes more time for us to do something interesting for players.
Our reprisal yesterday was just to show you we were bored to have to take back Redding to your team everyday and will do the same in your town if you keep on taking ours.
Maybe it was stupid, but we had to do it.
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Like skycast said, its broken hills hunters that have the bh free city project, we rogues are supporters.
The Redding project you want havent started yet, yes you need time you say, but make announcements, make it official.
And cryos sugestion with the golgatha thready(which havent even been "signed" yet) maybe make that one before claiming Redding to be yours.
Yes we attacking Redding because nothing is official or agreed to yet, well BH project IS, its THERE, its up and running.
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So, as far as I see/read BH is a battlefield? 2 days ago it was safe, but i didn't know who was in charge.
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Yes we attacking Redding because nothing is official or agreed to yet, well BH project IS, its THERE, its up and running.
You are right, but :
1. We didnt officially agreed (did we ::) ?) to stop one big part of our RP - hunting Outlaws everywhere - at the entrance of BH. But we didnt came to do it - Hunt Outlaws in this city.
2. You know that we want to settle at Redding, even if it's not official, and develop the population.
3. We don't take your cities when you sleep/work/not active. If we see you are not active anymore we stop taking cites since we dont care to Control every town. If think majority of both team players respect each other (no ?)
4. Most of our players are not available in the afternoon.
THEN : you started timer on Redding as first city in your TC process at the beginning of the afternoon. It's why we were pissed. I dont think we would have reacted like that if redding was attacked most lately since we would have a chance to defend it AND nothing it's official betweens us.
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My 5 cents about TTTLA:
Once BH was under CS control, me and my friends from BHH were making guerrilla action against CS.
I entered south grid, saw Lawyer and Cryo nick. Hmm, that must be that anti pk guys from TTTLA, - i thought. And - bam - they gunned me down.
That's why I'll participate if Rogues will ask for help against TTTLA. They don't play paladins at least while shoot first.
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Cryofluid play this game for a year, he never shot first during all this period, ask Linnea if you want she will confirm.
But if we saw you with Rogues before we can tag you outlaw...
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This thread isn't about TTTLA or Redding or "Outlaw" RP project (honestly, I laughed a lot :) ), can't you take it somewhere else?
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No, you have not seen me with rogues.
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Cryofluid play this game for a year, he never shot first during all this period, ask Linnea if you want she will confirm.
But if we saw you with Rogues before we can tag you outlaw...
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Yup you can shoot anyone and then just said that you saw him with Rogues/CS. thx you make my day.
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Cryofluid play this game for a year, he never shot first during all this period, ask Linnea if you want she will confirm.
But if we saw you with Rogues before we can tag you outlaw...
So I understand you will go to BH and kill everyone on sight, because they are in BH project which is supported by Rogues. Wow
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So I understand you will go to BH and kill everyone on sight, because they are in BH project which is supported by Rogues. Wow
Help us to make the difference. We dont kil them because we see them with Rogue, we kill them because we thing they are Rogue (and we thing that because we saw them with Rogue)... Without NC is hard the make clear difference.
So no we will not kill everyone in BH, like I said before a good number of people in this project are from our coalition. Guardien, Modoc militia etc... are old friend / ally. Like I said before we don't want to destroy this project, we support it at start and we want to support it again, but like Sarakin say we need fair condition, that it.
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Help us to make the difference. We dont kil them because we see them with Rogue, we kill them because we thing they are Rogue (and we thing that because we saw them with Rogue)... Without NC is hard the make clear difference.
So no we will not kill everyone in BH, like I said before a good number of people in this project are from our coalition. Guardien, Modoc militia etc... are old friend / ally. Like I said before we don't want to destroy this project, we support it at start and we want to support it again, but like Sarakin say we need fair condition, that it.
So make project and write post about it- what and how do you want to do it
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That's what we are supposed to do, but it takes ages because some of us are not on hand, some of our allies too; and because we have a lot of allies and aren't a big faction, it takes even more time to get to an accommodation with all of us... You know, bureaucracy.
Moreover, as you know, we like to insert an artwork made by our artists to introduce our Project. It's our trademark, you know.
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Maybe you have no time to start your project because so far, you are too busy with completing your list of "outlaws" that will be shot upon entering Redding after your project starts?
Sorry for that kind of sarcasm, but I can already imagine "Cha" standing in the downtown, shooting all people that he wants to shoot, then trying to justify it by saying:
- "you shot first"
- "you were seen PKing"
- "you were seen with Rogues/CS/blabla"
- "you are an outlaw"
That's not a way to go. I was already in Redding when TTTLA members were present there, I wasn't shot, had a nice talk and so on. That's how you should start, making some kind of a blacklist even before your project started will bring you only problems, mainly from the people that are not sure whether they will be shot after entering or not, so they will just not come to your town. And it's weird that I have to explain such things to people who have done more or less successful attempts of creating "safe asylums" in the north, long time ago.
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It's funny how Rogues tried to ruin (and succeeded) every roleplay attempt made by players in this game, then say "oh btw we make our own project, don't kill us thanks". No way guys, my level 7 char will stalk you until you surrender ;)
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To clarify some points (even if it won't be in favor of my team):
=> We were very glad when we heard of such a project (the one of this thread)
=> We also have such a project in mind in Redding since the begining of this session.
Unfortunately, it never happened (many of our members dismissed, others left saying they will come back with the next big update...)
=> BH project gave us some hope (especially because one of the major forces of the wasteland supports it) => so (after convincing VSB and Hawks) we had some talks with Rogues, speaking of a big treaty that could be signed between the 2 enemy forces => term of the treaty: we don't intefere in BH / you don't interfere in Redding
=> MSH did try to convince his team but as I understood,
The Rogues reply this:
1- "What is our interest in this treaty?"
2- "What exactly do TTTLA and partners intend to do in Redding?"
=>>>>>> For the reasons Heckler just told, we are unable to answer the 2nd question for now.
=>>>>>> So, we will try to answer the first one=> striking Redding leads to a bloodshed in Broken Hills.
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You can't know Kilgore what is an Lawyer RP because Rogues are Raiders and shoot every time first on everybody.
But i want to say you just one thing : we instant kill every red tagged guys, because these guys killed us one time, and we don't want to be killed once again.
You know we can't shoot first an unknow guy although he looks like aggressive. But once he has killed once of our member we don't forgive him. Basta.
Moreover I think you should not give us lesson on our RP, because we are making RP action since the last session ... last session you killed everybody again, again, and still again :)
Finnally you say that we do nothing in Redding, but if you take it everyday at 2 pm like CHOSEN SOLDIERS, we can't do anything ...
PS: Kilgore I know that you are one of the best troller on this forum, so I will not try to debate with you.
PS2: I'm speaking in my own voice, not in the TTTLA voice.
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You can't know Kilgore what is an Lawyer RP because Rogues are Raiders and shoot every time first on everybody.
You know bullshit, I know many people that are not in Rogues and I don't shoot at them. Many others do the same, so your theory just fails here. At least I'm not trying to justify my occasional PKing by some blacklist or something as childish as "you were seen with outlaws, you outlaw".
PS: Kilgore I know that you are one of the best troller on this forum, so I will not try to debate with you.
I didn't insult anyone in this topic, and you did. So, who's the troll?
Btw, many times you proved what your "Lawyer RP" is. It's just killing blacklisted people. It's exactly what we're doing, just our list is longer.
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World war 4 is coming! :)
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Finnally you say that we do nothing in Redding, but if you take it everyday at 2 pm like CHOSEN SOLDIERS, we can't do anything ...
You hypocrite better note ur friends when they took our cities 2weeks ago at 2am when we were are sleeping because you couldnt do anything from morning to evening so su; We werent on tc from last week or more...
PS. gl in propaganda.
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striking Redding leads to a bloodshed in Broken Hills.
How can u claim Redding to be yours if u didn't even set up your RP project yet. Until u announce it, Redding is just another TC combat zone, nothing more.
And about terror in Broken Hills:
I have expected that move from your side from the begining, when we setted up BHH project. I think the main reason why u don't like BHH and used this town for *revenge*(without good reason) what main part of your alliance can't tolerate Rogues as supporters of this project(how can it be! why some mindless PK gang supporting an RP town! this is not right, any kind of roleplay should be supported by *paladins*).
And this was the main reason why u didn't help BHH and rogues in defending/guarding town from CS even when we asked for help.
Last bite: Your ultimatum will lead to global civil war, coz after 1st atack u were marked by unwelcome/hostile and if u will raid Broken Hills again, we will not tolerate it and your Redding RP project will be buried(if it will ever start of course). (be sure we will not fear your swarms, Rogues and BHH already received alot of proposals to join from many gangs during last 3 days)
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All I see here is that the nonpker French are jealous that the pker Rogues managed to achieve what they couldn't by making an unguarded HQ mining city safe for everyone.
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I want to see the project continue. The best way to do it would be make an arrangment, because it would secure both towns. I dont remember no sofisticated project BH when I first came there. Just a bunch of people talking and having some fun in unguarded town.
If you give TTTLA Redding, you will see some results. If you will think that there is no good reason for them to have that town, so be it. But right now, we are stuck in a point that TTTLA cant do anything serious because of constant threat.
If you want to support the BH, make an arrangment about Redding.
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It's definitly hard to express one's feelings...
To be clear => I was the first one to express an EXTREME JOY when I heard about this project of Broken Hills.
Moreover, it seems to work so I am even more happy!
Now, concerning TTTLA => I am indeed disappointed because WE didn't manage to setup such a project in Redding yet (because of the reasons Heckler just told)
=> when we heard about the good will of The Rogues, we thought maybe it was time to try to launch our project in Redding=> that's why we planned to sign a cease fire with The Rogues in Redding and BH
=> They refused for the reasons quoted above => civil war.
I think on this move we are guilty (but we will never admit it as we are convinced to represent THE LAW that will bring A NEW WORLD ORDER in the wasteland)
By the way, (and this time I'm not speaking on behalf of my team), I am also VERY GLAD to see strong Chosen Soldiers in the ring.
And I hope Chosen Soldiers will come back EVEN STRONGER!
=>I know it will be harder than to build RP projects in BH and Redding but I love challenge and that's how a wasteland should be: hard to build things but not impossible.
At the moment, 3 main forces are doing Town Control.
=>>> My dream: to have not 3 but at least 5 strong forces in the ring!
Concerning our blacklist: each lawyer has to put a screenshot in our private forum BEFORE putting a man in the list. Generally, this screenshot is very expressive: a man camping in mine with dead bluesuits around him or one of our member killed without reason.
AND most of the time, people in the blacklist recognize to kill freely and without reason=> they openly claim to do such murder acts or they openly claim that they won't surrender to the Law of some despotic group of the wasteland (which I understand).
Edit: +1 Bantz
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I have expected that move from your side from the begining, when we setted up BHH project. I think the main reason why u don't like BHH and used this town for *revenge*(without good reason) what main part of your alliance can't tolerate Rogues as supporters of this project(how can it be! why some mindless PK gang supporting an RP town! this is not right, any kind of roleplay should be supported by *paladins*).
And this was the main reason why u didn't help BHH and rogues in defending/guarding town from CS even when we asked for help.
You can't be more false than that. We support the project at the start, we killing CS in BH protect BHH to retake the town (I can't remember the number of time where a CS ask us if we was ally with Rogues because of that). And about relationship before it was really good 2 day ago, I hope this will be good again in 2 day...
It is a fair proposition - BH VS Redding.
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I'll try to live in BH, help newbs with items and info. I can drive around wasteland too.
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It's kinda sad, that it seems as if there will be no real agreement here. Discussion is running a bit in circles now. Still i would like to see some development in this. Having two big unguarded towns at least partly guarded by players would be a nice thing and would not only bring life a bit back to those but also it would be some kind of signal for other groups.
I suggest that both sides do some kind of internal vote/discussion about the topic and both of you post a statement which things you could accept and which not and what the conditions would be. Beside all the gang related talk this maybe could bring a solution (and some kind of contract) here.
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So VSB cowardly attacked BH twice at night. Who will ever believe in all antipk bull...t anymore?
Here a bunch of screnshots:
http://www.mediafire.com/?nsb2cmis11om5ux
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So they are not antipk because they took the city belonging to you? :)
You are a member of enemy faction, why wouldn't they kill you?
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Go go go VSB :D
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So VSB ended up all this "support free player town stuff"
All ended with money talks. Greedy greedy
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I dont think project ended in any way. Its still going, isnt it? We still support it. Maybe Rogues will finaly accept the Redding term or at least tell us their statements. It would secure the town. BHH are caught in the middle.
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So make City - unknown in pip boy and then, they dont attack u ;D
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Rogues are waiting for BH major's deсision (about nights assaults) he's checking facts, proves, screenshots... paper work :P.
When he will (finally) make it. We can(finally) clear up things.
From my own thought, there will be no chanse to TTLA for regaining their reputation in this progect. And even less chances to make their own RP in redding :P and this will be their own fault :)
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Hmm maybe they start new project in BH.
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From my own thought, there will be no chanse to TTLA for regaining their reputation in this progect. And even less chances to make their own RP in redding :P and this will be their own fault :)
Like you are the oracle and master of all the wasteland. If they decide to make a projekt, i would be glad to help them. just to annoy some of you rogues/bhh muppets.
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From my own thought, there will be no chanse to TTLA for regaining their reputation in this progect. And even less chances to make their own RP in redding :P and this will be their own fault :)
Once again, nobody is asking you for a favor. It would be the best thing to help your project and help the community. We have a lot to lose but so do you.
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Dear Mr. Doctor.
VSB and TTLA tried to settle conditions among major PvP gangs to create their own roleplay project in Redding. Rogues were agaisnt. We dont need their agreement, but if we capture at 10-12 PM CET a Redding city, buy militia, and next day, after lunch time CET, every cities are possesed by Rogues, we will not tolerate your Broken Hills project too. We just do the same thing like you do (Rogues - BHH).
Everybody knows, that your Broken Hills roleplay project and BHH gang is only mask for constantinously (not interrupted) possesion of TC => huge amount of income caps.
If you dont want to settle a deal to let us make our own project, we will answer by power, like we did.
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Dear Mr. Doctor.
VSB and TTLA tried to settle conditions among major PvP gangs to create their own roleplay project in Redding. Rogues were agaisnt. We dont need their agreement, but if we capture at 10-12 PM CET a Redding city, buy militia, and next day, after lunch time CET, every cities are possesed by Rogues, we will not tolerate your Broken Hills project too. We just do the same thing like you do (Rogues - BHH).
Everybody knows, that your Broken Hills roleplay project and BHH gang is only mask for constantinously (not interrupted) possesion of TC => huge amount of income caps.
If you dont want to settle a deal to let us make our own project, we will answer by power, like we did.
Execuse me Sir, but I'm Chosen Soldiers. And I feel terribly offended by you thinking of me as Broken Hills Hunter.
Yours sincerely,
"Mr. Doctor"
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Everybody knows, that your Broken Hills roleplay project and BHH gang is only mask for constantinously (not interrupted) possesion of TC => huge amount of income caps.
You could not be more wrong in this, just because you are poor dont mean you have to think we need BH only for caps.
We said over and over it goes for BH(Broken Hills Hunters), meaning handpicked mercs instead of melee militia.
And if you continue to think this lordus, then you are a bigger idiot than i though, stop embarrassing yourself.
Note: And we can buy as many mutants as we want even if bhh or rogues did not have BH
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You could not be more wrong in this, just because you are poor dont mean you have to think we need BH only for caps.
We said over and over it goes for BH(Broken Hills Hunters), meaning handpicked mercs instead of melee militia.
And if you continue to think this lordus, then you are a bigger idiot than i though, stop embarrassing yourself.
Note: And we can buy as many mutants as we want even if bhh or rogues did not have BH
Broken Hills =
* best caps income (if you can hold it continuously) = dozens of thousands per real day
* uranium ore monopol
* supermutants NPC monopol
* HQ res mine
* very good distance to NCR
From my point of view, you use Broken Hills Hunters and their roleplay to cover your real intention, hold one city for a maximum time. Also, i agree that you do kind of roleplay, invite players, bribing them with shitty stuff.
But if you think, that we will only watch that you are "roleplaying" good ones (and on other side, Rogues PK on every other cities) but you ruin our own roleplay projects, because you capture our cities between 11-13 hours (CET), than you are wrong.
Lets make a deal about roleplaying cities or counter the consequences. I remember that you and your team is the one that dont want to settle any agreement.
Howgh.
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Broken Hills =
* best caps income (if you can hold it continuously) = dozens of thousands per real day
* uranium ore monopol
* supermutants NPC monopol
* HQ res mine
* very good distance to NCR
From my point of view, you use Broken Hills Hunters and their roleplay to cover your real intention, hold one city for a maximum time. Also, i agree that you do kind of roleplay, invite players, bribing them with shitty stuff.
And from my point of view, you are an idiot, Lordus, because you don't understand that you can:
- dig ore as much as they
- buy super mutants (what monopol? please)
- dig HQ res
- travel from BH to NCR (I bet that if you ask then even someone will help taxi you there)
So the only part are caps, then mercenaries and militia isn't free too, so what's your point?
If Rogues want so badly get money from BH, then they would just take it and kill on sight everyone. No big deal.
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The announcement from mayor of BH (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=10599.0)
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Even if they are doing it for caps, I see nothing wrong. They are making a really good TC, letting players in and making the wasteland grow. Everyone is satisfied.
But if it's true that you don't let VSB+TTTLA organize something like this in Redding and don't want to make an agreement, that's what I don't like.
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And from my point of view, you are an idiot, Lordus, because you don't understand that you can:
- dig ore as much as they
- buy super mutants (what monopol? please)
- dig HQ res
- travel from BH to NCR (I bet that if you ask then even someone will help taxi you there)
So the only part are caps, then mercenaries and militia isn't free too, so what's your point?
If Rogues want so badly get money from BH, then they would just take it and kill on sight everyone. No big deal.
Because i am an idiot, i will write it for you again: The real problem is that Rogues dont allow us to create similar roleplay project (because they capture our cities at time, when we are at work/school), but they are crying if we do the same thing. The game economy income is secondary, but also important. Now read, Killgore, this text for dozens of times, and then try to respond. Sincerely, Lordus "the brainhead of united idiots in the whole wasteland".
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oh noes kurwa, pvp on forum - again
The real problem is that Rogues dont allow us to create similar roleplay project (because they capture our cities at time, when we are at work/school), but they are crying if we do the same thing.
yea , right. remember when you was crying about that reading, becouse 5-6 rogues captured city and dont give me a shit you havent any people for defend city. you really want to know what is the problem with all this situation ? ask bantz, probably he saved log form todays conversation that took place in my bh office :)
i had plan to make small meeting in bh, with leaders of all gangs but looks like bhh was a little to fast with declaring war ;
anyway we still can try, maybe with gamemasters and developers ?
somethin like that:
(http://i55.tinypic.com/30rm8mu.jpg)
but on bigger scale, ofcourse with beer and snacks! ;)
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This, what Rogues and Broken Hills Hunters doing in the Broken Hills works for me. Dosen't matter that they have dozen of thousands caps per day. I can go there, buy a muties, and head back to base without any shootouts or damn thiefs. I've been there many times and noticed one weird thing. The so called "Anti-PK justice bringers" (I dunno if they have been from TTT LA or VSB, maybe not), have killed me on sight although I haven't been on thier red list or something like that. The "evil PK badasses" form Rogues and thier friends ensured my safety there. So what's the point? Is the only smear campaing or something is wrong with this wasteland?
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anyway we still can try..
I am always glad to hear this from russian player :)
Seriously:
because our gangs + CS are the major force in the wasteland, we could settle a deal about all future roleplay projects.. you know, general rules about how we will interact with similar roleplay projects.. we dont need to rush and ruin every similar thing.
Do you remember Wipe Church? 40+ enlisted players, but still ruined by some red-eye-kill-all players. Or new Modoc militia. Similar condition. They were guarding with huntingn rifles and they were swarmed by 10+ best equip players. And i could continue...
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Ok, I read about halfway through the pages of this stuff before I got too bored to finish (for now) but maybe some of the TTTLA people should just help BH and defend it against Chosen if the situation arises? Maybe (MAYBE) they might help you secure Redding? Fuck treaties, bureaucracy, and other shit, just DO. Rogues done lots of shit, but if anti-pks want betterment of wasteland, then maybe stepping back from the long-winded blacklist and just helping someone JUST TO FUCKING HELP is due. Do it, because it's the right thing to do, and not let things like pride, sides, or any other crap get in the way. Just maybe, someone might help you after. And if not, then oh well! You helped make something out of nothing in the town called Broken Hills and you are a better person for it.
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Ok, I read about halfway through the pages of this stuff before I got too bored to finish (for now) but maybe some of the TTTLA people should just help BH and defend it against Chosen if the situation arises? Maybe (MAYBE) they might help you secure Redding? Fuck treaties, bureaucracy, and other shit, just DO. Rogues done lots of shit, but if anti-pks want betterment of wasteland, then maybe stepping back from the long-winded blacklist and just helping someone JUST TO FUCKING HELP is due. Do it, because it's the right thing to do, and not let things like pride, sides, or any other crap get in the way. Just maybe, someone might help you after. And if not, then oh well! You helped make something out of nothing in the town called Broken Hills and you are a better person for it.
The problem is that income from BH goes straight to Rogues. And Rogues is our (TTLA and VSB) enemy. So if we would secure BH against others, we would only help our enemy to gain more caps for PvP stuff they need to kill us.
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oh come on man! you really think we need money form brokenhills ?
wipe was some time ago, all big gangs have enough stuff for end of this era and almost infinite number of caps, so tell me something - WTF YOU TALKING ABOUT ?
we took nothing form brokenhills locker, BHH spending that money for militia and some basic stuff to help newcomsers.. we really dont need caps anymore
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oh come on man! you really think we need money form brokenhills ?
wipe was some time ago, all big gangs have enough stuff for end of this era and almost infinite number of caps, so tell me something - WTF YOU TALKING ABOUT ?
we took nothing form brokenhills locker, BHH spending that money for militia and some basic stuff to help newcomsers.. we really dont need caps anymore
1) i will not help by any way to PK gangs = our enemy
2) i will ruin your roleplay project in response of your actions against our roleplay
Is this simple?
Ok, give us all caps you have from BH (you dont need them) and we will help you to secure BH.
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Lordus seems to be obsessed about caps and items.
First topics about giving them stuff to fight PvP, now about caps.
Seriously, if you are so poor then I can give you a rifle, metal mk2 and some drugs for a good start :)
Anyway, it's true that Rogues don't take anything from BH.
BHH need caps to buy militia and mercenaries.
It was said many times in this thread, but Lordus will repeat his bullshit over and over again. It seems that he wants to believe it so hardly..
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2) i will ruin your roleplay project in response of your actions against our roleplay
Ok, so you don't want negotiate and starting with these sentence? Seriously me and other players want rp in bh and we aren't in any gangs...
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Ok, so you don't want negotiate and starting with these sentence? Seriously me and other players want rp in bh and we aren't in any gangs...
and we want to start roleplay in other cities, but we cant because Rogues...
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and we want to start roleplay in other cities, but we cant because Rogues...
maybe create a new gang? with residents.. or something.. i know.. strange idea..
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well, barring the rogues kicking me and my gang out, we are going to start hanging out in BH to defend it against TTTLA and their friends...
so if you're a troublemaker heading to BH, all you need to know is there will be some sneak snipers/grenadiers waiting for you :-) kill us and take our leather if you like... but don't die holding that shiny brotherhood armor you have on, that would be tragic. ;)
edit: we will be clearing our target list for any trips into supposed "RP" towns so we do not step on the toes of those involved... no red or green.. if you shoot us we will shoot back though.
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Zato, it will be very nice to see meet you in BH. I think you can even join BHH faction... If you wish to.
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there is a russian saying about behavior of VSB and TTTLA: "что не съем- то надкушу". I'll try to translate it to english: "if it not belong to us, then it'll be not belong to anybody".
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They are anti-pkers and pkers are living in Broken Hills. Easy to understand why they attack people there.
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but not of us are PK. Vizitors not pk too (sometimes :))
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They are anti-pkers and pkers are living in Broken Hills. Easy to understand why they attack people there.
sounds like self-appointed police.. easy rollp(l)aying..
also i see "pker" rp works better than the police shit.
they made other people a part of it. judge it with your big law hammer.
Edit: and i like the color grey
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umm when i checked broken hills
everybody was dead and there was a war
a BIG big WAR
then a guy yelled out GANGSTA and blasted me and i died lol
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So yesterday was massacre time in broken hills? I was standing there, enjoying the wasteland sun, when 5 rocket muties appeared. Then hell broke out...
And "CS" was written at the entrance! Later on, i will share some screens with you.
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we erased it
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we erased it
The CS sign?
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The CS sign?
Yep, but before it someone added fuck to this signature)
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;D
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That was indeed quite a mess!
(http://i52.tinypic.com/30hopk4.jpg)
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i was there and forgot preview doesnt work during TC so i had to come back and i got one sneaky snipey kill near the south before CS captured it... not much you can do in this game against dedicated lamers.
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That was indeed quite a mess!
(http://i52.tinypic.com/30hopk4.jpg)
good job ;) I like it ^^
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seems like politics going over the dead corpes of the john publics of the wastes.... ??? ???
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seems like politics going over the dead corpes of the john publics of the wastes.... ??? ???
Well BH is attacked everyday now by CS.
But you can try trade there. But first scout the main street. If there are no CS boons or no dead boides, then it safe ;P
Or ask radio on channel 2010
Or ask on IRC if it safe
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There was time, where TTTLA (and VSB/Hawks) tried to settle a deal about roleplaying citeis in BH and Redding. You were against, and you ruinded TTTLA roleplay in Redding at start of this project by capturing city at night hour. Now, CS kick your ass with your RP project, so eat your sour grapes.
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ever thoguth about to cooperate? ok everybody has a past, but let the differences beside an think abput what you can reach wen you just tolerate und help the others? this noyounoyou! behavious is childish and dont bring anything for everyside ...
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you ruinded TTTLA roleplay in Redding
well, actually you ruined that , lordus
you still thinking that was our project? yea in someway that was our project but we didint governed the city, only looked form distance. probably i shoudlnt tell that. but that was only test, test some of you - gangs, players, developers and game mechanics
we learn from bhh mistakes, which we can improve in the future when WE start this , again ..this time for more serious.
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well, actually you ruined that , lordus
you still thinking that was our project? yea in someway that was our project but we didint governed the city, only looked form distance. probably i shoudlnt tell that. but that was only test, test some of you - gangs, players, developers and game mechanics
we learn from bhh mistakes, which we can improve in the future when WE start this , again ..this time for more serious.
I hope CS will give you chance ;)
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i hope that we won't ask them.
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ever thoguth about to cooperate? ok everybody has a past, but let the differences beside an think abput what you can reach wen you just tolerate und help the others? this noyounoyou! behavious is childish and dont bring anything for everyside ...
Unfortunatly, there is not too many people who would like to cooperate, through all teams. Its sad realy, because its probably the only real way how to suceed in such project.
i hope that we won't ask them.
I hope you do, because in long terms its only possible way.
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Yeah, kill by minigun bursts all SPANISH INQUITORS in robes, thats a supporting of roleplay, Rogues. :P
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im wondering wtf is wrong with you lordus
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10 succesfull strikes of spanish inquisitiors..
Dont tell me, that we are not roleplayin in BH.
We are not attacking BH in 15 players in CA, avengers and snipers. We dont need this. We are SPANISH INQUISITORS and nobody expect us.
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We are SPANISH INQUISITORS and nobody expect us.
Haha +1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAn7baRbhx4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAn7baRbhx4)
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And that it's true no one can catch them?
No, there is simply no one needs to catch them.