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Title: bg build
Post by: TheRiot! on October 17, 2010, 11:26:13 pm
i dont know how looks after wipe bg build so could you show me bg build with and without drugs. How many bursts can bg now?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: AgentKotleta on October 17, 2010, 11:36:59 pm
2 bursts... 10ag+ 2 actionboys. Jet is worse, cos -15dr for bg is really notgood
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: TheRiot! on October 18, 2010, 03:48:00 pm
bg 2 burst and psycho ale good, yeah?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Wichura on October 18, 2010, 04:33:42 pm
How about:
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1686/bg2h.png)
?
+ Buffout + Nuka Cola.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Bantz on October 18, 2010, 04:37:54 pm
Its better to have STR 6 and run on jet because of stonewall. Either scrap some agility or action boys.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: borse on October 18, 2010, 04:44:54 pm
6
6
6
1
6
10
6

Small Frame, Good Natured

BG FA DOC tagged

stone wall, BRD x 2, lifegiver, action boy x 2, Brof.

Get your BG skill to 200-220 (to make up for -1 str if you want).
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: TheRiot! on October 18, 2010, 05:22:04 pm
oh, flamer is useful in pvp?

I think about Wichura's build, but what a hell? Kamikadze? o.O pve build, yes?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Wichura on October 18, 2010, 05:28:51 pm
My flamer girl looks like this:
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/884/zapalniczkab.jpg)

Improved flamer in her hands burns critters from 80 to 130 without critical hits. Didn't check on armored people. 9 AP allows for only one furious burst per turn.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: avv on October 18, 2010, 05:33:05 pm
Living anatomy doesnt give +5 dmg atm according to wiki.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: RJ on October 18, 2010, 06:10:48 pm
Wiki only says that it gives +20% to Doctor skill instead of +10% as description claims. It should be still giving +5 to damage.
Going to fix wiki page a bit to avoid further misinterpretations.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: HertogJan on October 18, 2010, 09:00:12 pm
Its better to have STR 6 and run on jet because of stonewall. Either scrap some agility or action boys.

If you're planning on using an LSW instead of other BG, 6 ST is enough.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: TheRiot! on October 18, 2010, 11:39:52 pm
ok, look:

S : 4
P : 6
E : 8
C : 1
A : 10
L : 6

Perks:

3 - stone wall
6 - brd
9 - brd
12 - lifegiver
15 - brof
18 - action boy
21 - action boy

He using buffout + nuka but can use psycho + beer too

I draw this on paper, without any char calculator, this build can be good in pvp?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Bantz on October 18, 2010, 11:59:10 pm
With STR4 no stonewall for you. STR 6, AG 8 and jet is the option for you.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: TheRiot! on October 19, 2010, 12:04:04 am
stonewall is important now in bg builds or what?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Bantz on October 19, 2010, 12:10:27 am
You have it in your build, dont you? With 4 STR you wont get one. And yes, its important.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Grey Fox on October 19, 2010, 12:11:09 am
what about a rocket build? what would that look like?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: kraskish on October 19, 2010, 09:30:56 am
How about:
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1686/bg2h.png)
?
+ Buffout + Nuka Cola.

I made the same build like this. I mean, I wanted to but I dont know heh, rely 100% on mentats, but yeah, it would fucking rule, eh? :D

Theres just one thing... buffout gives +2 ST +2EN -Agi so it wouldnt be enough for BGs and still would have only 11 ap Oh I see nuka... but can you take both? Pretty hardcore build :S The missing 1ST would decrease hit chance although maybe it would just make it with maximum range of PE6... still I think that build would get more critical failures...
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Floodnik on October 19, 2010, 06:36:08 pm
You can take one dose of each other drug together, you just can't take two doses at the same drug. So buffout + nuka is ok.
And yes, it would decrease the hit chance, it would be like he had 180% BG, I think that's enough for some range.
I don't know how does it affect the critical fail chance or if it affects it at all.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: borse on October 20, 2010, 07:17:18 pm
for clean build, I suggest dropping one action boy and just getting weapon handling. 11 AP at 6 ap per burst isn't that bad. You'll have to play slightly more reserved but with 10 ag your AP regenerates prettty damn fast. I'd even consider dropping the second AB for another life giver. Tank with 10 ag and 6 ap burst aint bad :)
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Cocain on November 05, 2010, 03:12:55 am
My flamer girl looks like this:
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/884/zapalniczkab.jpg)

Improved flamer in her hands burns critters from 80 to 130 without critical hits. Didn't check on armored people. 9 AP allows for only one furious burst per turn.

i really like this build.. but i hav a few questions:

 is PE really that important? could u lower it to 1 or if you want some range for other weapons, take 1 from pe and  put it on str to gain access to stonewall and then compensate with cigarettes?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Wulfhen on November 08, 2010, 04:07:56 pm
I'm curious, as a flamer is just a single-shot, does the fast shot trait work with it?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Cocain on November 09, 2010, 05:22:52 am
no

fastshot after pre wipe onlly reduces ap by one one single shot mode instead of the ability to do aim shot, burst mode off all weapons including smgs are not by all means affected by the perk anymore
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Wulfhen on November 09, 2010, 06:15:03 pm
But a Flamer doesn't "burst" does it? It just has single shot mode?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: runboy93 on November 09, 2010, 06:44:46 pm
But a Flamer doesn't "burst" does it? It just has single shot mode?
It got "Burst" mode like others BG weapons too.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: RavenousRat on November 09, 2010, 07:17:45 pm
But a Flamer doesn't "burst" does it? It just has single shot mode?
Who cares it's burst or not, you can't do aimed shots with flamer, so Fast Shot won't work on it because of that, not because it does single shots or something. The same about rocket launcher, you can't do aimed shots with it, so Fast Shot won't work on it.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Wulfhen on November 09, 2010, 10:14:42 pm
I didn't realize that was the exact requirement, from the way it has been described it just seemed like it only works on a single-shot attack. Thank you for the clarification.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Heywood on November 26, 2010, 12:28:27 am
Checking out BG tank build.

 Tough BG mk2 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6330785/tough%20BG.jpg)

Combined with standard supply of drugs (NukaCola + Psycho + Cigarettes + Buffout)

With Metal armour:        60 DR and 8 DT
With Brotherhood CA:    65 DR and 12 DT

The only drawback is low AP, but it's enough to shoot and reload in one round it can be a nice choice for both minugun and rocket louncher.

Any opinions?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: runboy93 on November 26, 2010, 09:57:47 am
Check this one.
(http://imgur.com/qTqe2.png)
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: HertogJan on November 26, 2010, 12:16:36 pm
ST 4
PE 6
EN 8
CH 1
IN 6
AG 10
LK 6

Traits: Small Frame, Good Natured

Perks:
3. Toughness
6. BRD
9. BRD
12. Lifegiver
15. BRoF
18. AB
21. AB

Tagged skills:
BG 220
FA 129
Doc 100

You will require buffout for combat which gives you +2 ST which will be sufficient for LSW, but still 1 ST short for the other BG.
A nuka cola will cancel the -1 AG from buffout.
A psycho added to the mix will get you the required ST for all BG.
You can also add cigarettes to the mix for +1 PE.
With 220 in BG skill you can take the -20 penalty.

At level 21 you have 195 HP and 12 AP, enough for 2 bursts.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: cnagorneac on December 06, 2010, 09:37:40 am
I have a question. Why do u really need 6 luck, if i have never seen any better criticals perks in you builds. Isn't it better to lower luck to 1 and raise any other stat?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: solid snake on December 06, 2010, 09:53:53 am
I have a question. Why do u really need 6 luck, if i have never seen any better criticals perks in you builds. Isn't it better to lower luck to 1 and raise any other stat?

6lk is for toughness and bonus ranged damage perks
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: runboy93 on December 06, 2010, 10:47:49 am
I have a question. Why do u really need 6 luck, if i have never seen any better criticals perks in you builds. Isn't it better to lower luck to 1 and raise any other stat?
Also many other perks need LK6.
Like toughness, Bonus Ranged Damage, More Criticals...

And toughness and Bonus Ranged Damage are most important perks for BG.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: dskpnk on December 06, 2010, 02:11:15 pm
small question, can we take more than one drugs at the sae time ? I thought now it's only one dose from one drugs no ?
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Bantz on December 06, 2010, 02:56:57 pm
One dose from each drug. Only exception is rad-x, that you can take as many as you need (2:D).
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: SantaFaust on December 16, 2010, 12:10:37 pm
6
6
6
1
6
10
6

Small Frame, Good Natured

BG FA DOC tagged

stone wall, BRD x 2, lifegiver, action boy x 2, Brof.

Get your BG skill to 200-220 (to make up for -1 str if you want).

Bad idea. I had build like this. 172 hp for bg isn't enough. Delete this build.
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Set7er on January 21, 2011, 09:56:44 pm
Bad idea. I had build like this. 172 hp for bg isn't enough. Delete this build.

I think that is a good build without drugs. Im going to use it! THX
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: DarkOne on January 22, 2011, 12:58:52 am
you can always use 6 6 8 1 6 8 6

small frame and good natured

tag BG FA and DOC

perks...

toughness x2, bonus ranged damage x2, life giver x2, stonewall

you can only shot once per turn but... you have more survivability
Title: Re: bg build
Post by: Set7er on January 22, 2011, 02:04:11 am
you can always use 6 6 8 1 6 8 6

small frame and good natured

tag BG FA and DOC

perks...

toughness x2, bonus ranged damage x2, life giver x2, stonewall

you can only shot once per turn but... you have more survivability




I think that with 1brust,without drugs: 6 6 10 1 4 8 6  --> HP:249 with your perks

But I took the first build with 2brust