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Title: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: aForcefulThrust on October 16, 2010, 06:58:43 pm
So I have to join the raiders to become gunsmith lvl 3... Bummer! Everyone's gonna hate and attack me. Is there any way to avoid this? I really don't wanna have to fight every random encounter patroll I come across, that will likely end in my death very often.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: Crazy on October 16, 2010, 07:00:58 pm
So I have to join the raiders to become gunsmith lvl 3... Bummer! Everyone's gonna hate and attack me. Is there any way to avoid this? I really don't wanna have to fight every random encounter patroll I come across, that will likely end in my death very often.

After some times, your reputation slowly go back to -200 neutral.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: theyseemetrollin on October 16, 2010, 07:19:32 pm
get he training and quit faction, your rep will balance back
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: avv on October 16, 2010, 07:45:38 pm
It's gonna take like 2-4 real life weeks to get most reps to non hostile state.

get he training and quit faction, your rep will balance back

No he's a raider and that's blood in blood out faction.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: theyseemetrollin on October 17, 2010, 06:54:01 am
It's gonna take like 2-4 real life weeks to get most reps to non hostile state.

No he's a raider and that's blood in blood out faction.

they have the mordino bullshit? Speaking of which you could join mordino to override the raider faction, not sure if thats better though.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: HertogJan on October 17, 2010, 03:01:54 pm
To increase your rep a bit, do the following:
- take what's needed to join raiders and take a gun, ammo and super stims
- join and than leave raiders
- kill as many raiders at their base as possible (+20 rep. per 1 if I remember correctly)
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: aForcefulThrust on October 17, 2010, 04:30:57 pm
To increase your rep a bit, do the following:
- take what's needed to join raiders and take a gun, ammo and super stims
- join and than leave raiders
- kill as many raiders at their base as possible (+20 rep. per 1 if I remember correctly)
Cool thx for advice, maybe I can be back up after a day of raider killing.   I've never played a more frustrating yet satisfying game. If this game wasn't so hardcore it wouldn't be nearly as fun!
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: HertogJan on October 17, 2010, 09:35:59 pm
Cool thx for advice, maybe I can be back up after a day of raider killing.   I've never played a more frustrating yet satisfying game. If this game wasn't so hardcore it wouldn't be nearly as fun!

Once you left raiders, you can still see their base.
When you enter they'll attack you the moment they spot you.
When you killed a bunch of raiders, you might like to take a look at your rep with them.
Pre wipe I had an alt with -40000 with raiders and other 1 with -38000 in The Den.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: aForcefulThrust on October 18, 2010, 03:50:02 am
Whats the easiest way to get slaver rep required to join the raiders without actually joining the slavers?
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: HertogJan on October 18, 2010, 01:07:54 pm
Whats the easiest way to get slaver rep required to join the raiders without actually joining the slavers?

http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Bring_Little_Jesus_Mordino%27s_briefcase_to_Metzger
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: aForcefulThrust on October 18, 2010, 06:07:21 pm
I know i saw that too... but that makes me a slaver.. No other way?
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: TheGreenHand on October 18, 2010, 06:48:19 pm
The briefcase quest doesn't make you a slaver.  Joining the slavers is the only way to become a slaver.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: aForcefulThrust on October 18, 2010, 07:09:49 pm
The briefcase quest doesn't make you a slaver.  Joining the slavers is the only way to become a slaver.
Oh really!? Thats great but the wiki said it differently..

"Rewards

A fully loaded shotgun and 20 shells.
Some caps (according to your charisma).
800 xp (from Metzger)
1500 xp (from Little Jesus Mordino).
Your reputation will increase by 150 points with slavers, decrease by 200 points with Regulators and people will consider you as a slaver."

Is the wiki wrong?
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: theyseemetrollin on October 18, 2010, 10:09:45 pm
Oh really!? Thats great but the wiki said it differently..

"Rewards

A fully loaded shotgun and 20 shells.
Some caps (according to your charisma).
800 xp (from Metzger)
1500 xp (from Little Jesus Mordino).
Your reputation will increase by 150 points with slavers, decrease by 200 points with Regulators and people will consider you as a slaver."

Is the wiki wrong?

yeah it hasn't been updated in like 6 months
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: aForcefulThrust on October 18, 2010, 10:10:14 pm
Also.. Can I still ride the trains as a raider?
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: Michaelh139 on October 18, 2010, 10:11:49 pm
Also.. Can I still ride the trains as a raider?
Not afaik.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: TheGreenHand on October 19, 2010, 04:35:04 am
Also.. Can I still ride the trains as a raider?

Yeah, just get join raiders, get your profession, leave the raiders, then play another alt for a bit and let that reputation get better.  You'll be ok in a week or so.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: Eternauta on October 19, 2010, 06:47:17 am
Also.. Can I still ride the trains as a raider?

You can, but not in Vault City. I mean you can enter any train station except the Vault city one. I am a raider too :D but I want to leave after I craft some 7.62mm
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: stjepan on October 26, 2010, 02:53:40 pm
Ok, i have kinda different problem. As i was leveling up around vault city, i shot alot of raiders and slavers....how can i fix my rep with em to even get in? :D
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: Eternauta on October 26, 2010, 03:46:59 pm
Ok, i have kinda different problem. As i was leveling up around vault city, i shot alot of raiders and slavers....how can i fix my rep with em to even get in? :D

Hmm bad choice of target man. But I guess you will just have to wait some time, your rep will slowly go up until you reach neutral again.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: HertogJan on October 26, 2010, 03:48:34 pm
Not sure, but I think it goes up if you kill VC and NCR people.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: Chiko on October 26, 2010, 04:13:12 pm
Not sure, but I think it goes up if you kill VC.

I can confirm this. Maybe you have a friend who is....a member of Vault city faction? ;-)

Chiko
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: RJ on October 26, 2010, 04:59:06 pm
Your reputation will increase by 150 points with slavers, decrease by 200 points with Regulators and people will consider you as a slaver."

Is the wiki wrong?

It means that with positive reputation at slavers some NPCs won't want to talk with you (fe: Klamath, Modoc citizens). There is nothing like "you become slaver" written there.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: stjepan on October 27, 2010, 08:37:23 pm
I can confirm this. Maybe you have a friend who is....a member of Vault city faction? ;-)

Chiko

so i'm screwed...i have to pk people that are in Vault City faction to fix -4k karma...darn it...
second option is what...wait for it to nulify...how much is it...10 per day?! Damn....
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: Chiko on October 27, 2010, 11:47:40 pm
Well...you can wait until your karma reches -200 but sadly you will need -190 in slaver reputation to join raiders. So you will have to kill at least one vault citizen in the end. I dont really know other ways to increase karma with slavers above -200 but might be that im totally wrong because i quit playing the game some time ago.

Chiko
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: stjepan on October 28, 2010, 12:50:09 am
Ah well, ill just recreate character, because if data is true that you gain/loose 10 standings per RL day, ill need 400 RL days which is waaaaaay more than i plan to wait :D
Next time i level up on ghouls...as i see it noone objects when i kill em beside well...them :D
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: Ganado on October 28, 2010, 01:00:40 am
If you have about -4000 rep, it will take about 4, maybe 5 real-life weeks for it go down to -200. Yeah, still a long time though.
Title: Re: Gunsmith(Small guns) lvl 3... Everyone will hate me!
Post by: Lacan on October 28, 2010, 01:01:18 am
i had my rep with slavers stuck at -200 with some chars 2 wipes ago, and i asked politely through +requesthelp : some GM [thanks] resetted it to 0.

I can't guarantee they will do it in yuor case, or even that they still do it )