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Title: tb and sequence
Post by: Jay on October 14, 2010, 05:28:44 pm
Isnt it stupid that you get 2 turns in a row if you have higher sequence?

Imho, you should start first, yes. But not get two turns in a row... wtf is with this thing? Its like a bug.
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: avv on October 14, 2010, 05:33:45 pm
Isnt it stupid that you get 2 turns in a row if you have higher sequence?

Imho, you should start first, yes. But not get two turns in a row... wtf is with this thing? Its like a bug.

It's the same thing as when someone hits with 95% accuracy if he has high weapons skill%.
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: John Ryder on October 14, 2010, 05:38:09 pm
It's the same thing as when someone hits with 95% accuracy if he has high weapons skill%.
Yes, because skilled people should miss and those that hold the gun for the first time should hit.
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: Jay on October 14, 2010, 05:43:59 pm
Well, the "to hit" could be easily offset if AC would substract from the 95% always.

for example: 10 AC = 95% - 10% - 85% to hit chance, no matter how high the skill.

But, this sequence makes you two turn in a row... this is an exploit.
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: avv on October 14, 2010, 05:54:57 pm
Well, the "to hit" could be easily offset if AC would substract from the 95% always.

for example: 10 AC = 95% - 10% - 85% to hit chance, no matter how high the skill.

But, this sequence makes you two turn in a row... this is an exploit.

Ac works as in fallout singleplayer. The players just got so high skill% that it doesn't really matter what ac we got in most ranges. Ac worked well in fallout singleplayers because most npcs didn't have so high skills so their hitting chance really did suffer from the chosen one's good ac.
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: borse on October 14, 2010, 07:46:13 pm
Ac works as in fallout singleplayer. The players just got so high skill% that it doesn't really matter what ac we got in most ranges. Ac worked well in fallout singleplayers because most npcs didn't have so high skills so their hitting chance really did suffer from the chosen one's good ac.

interesting knowledge! Makes me wonder what kind of flaws fallout 3 online would expect when/if it launches.
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: theyseemetrollin on October 14, 2010, 07:55:13 pm
Well, the "to hit" could be easily offset if AC would substract from the 95% always.

for example: 10 AC = 95% - 10% - 85% to hit chance, no matter how high the skill.

But, this sequence makes you two turn in a row... this is an exploit.

I'm working on a char that has 50-74 ac in tb, that would make him almost impossible to hit.
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: yoz on October 15, 2010, 01:29:34 am
it doesn't give you 2 turns in a row.

It just gives you the first turn after the attack that started the combat mode.
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: zato1 on October 15, 2010, 02:54:02 am
it doesn't give you 2 turns in a row.

It just gives you the first turn after the attack that started the combat mode.

this guy has personal, firsthand experience. cripplers and sequence is just bad news.

you will never sequence twice before someone...
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: El Barto on October 17, 2010, 07:44:00 am
Isnt it stupid that you get 2 turns in a row if you have higher sequence?

Imho, you should start first, yes. But not get two turns in a row... wtf is with this thing? Its like a bug.
  ;D
you get 2 turns in a row if
- you began a battle. Then you have 1 shot + 1 turn
- your opponent fallen down when a fight went already. Then you have the current turn and turn of next "motion"


you will be sorry me for my errors . i not speak english
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: Perteks on June 04, 2011, 12:43:07 am
I will bump that old topic because
I have situation when people dont start turn and have 2 turn before me. And other question is how it work when u enter to somebody encounter they have lets say 20 seq and u have 25 seq ? Sometimes i saw that situation and he have next turn but sometimes he wait tilll others turn end
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: RavenousRat on June 04, 2011, 02:49:08 pm
When you enter someone's encounter you'll skip current turn session and start only next one.
So, for example there're 5 guys with 20, 18, 16, 14 and 12 sequences, and you have 18 sequence.
They are skipping turns, watching youtube and waiting till someone enter enc.
Turn #1:
1) 20 sequence guy skipped turn.
2) you enter encounter. You'll have your turn on 2nd turn, because it'll be after current one.
3) 18 sequence guy shooting you.
4) 16 sequence guy shooting you.
5) 14 sequence guy still watching youtube.
6) 12 sequence guy afk.
Turn #2:
1) 20 sequence guy shooting you.
2) 18 sequence guy or you (because you have 18 too) has his turn.
etc.
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: Perteks on June 04, 2011, 03:09:26 pm
Then how its possible when i enter with 27 seq char and guys for sure didnt have more and i dont have next turn? Even NPC's have turn before me?
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: RavenousRat on June 04, 2011, 04:12:44 pm
Then how its possible when i enter with 27 seq char and guys for sure didnt have more and i dont have next turn? Even NPC's have turn before me?
Because you entered during turn? So they ignore you, you're not in sequence queue yet, when everyone ends thier turn, you'll be added to that queue and, probably, will have 1st turn, if you have so high sequence.
When the least sequence will end his turn, new turn will start, and you'll have your turn there.
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: Perteks on June 04, 2011, 04:18:27 pm
Some post higher i write i have situation when guys enter in middle of fight and have next turn and it wasnt end of all guys turn (im sure because i was somewhere in middle turn sequence and i got that time turn)
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: Reiniat on June 04, 2011, 05:29:05 pm
Some post higher i write i have situation when guys enter in middle of fight and have next turn and it wasnt end of all guys turn (im sure because i was somewhere in middle turn sequence and i got that time turn)
its bugged, most of the time you will need to wait to all the turns over, but sometimes you can get while the turn
Anyway turns should be cutted always:
-20 skip turn
-you spawn
-you have 18seq, so it your turn, ot the one from the other guy with 18
-you shot
-18guy shot
-16guy shot
14guy shot
-you die, but you at least harm or kill one of them
Title: Re: tb and sequence
Post by: Ulterior on June 09, 2011, 12:17:20 am
its bugged, most of the time you will need to wait to all the turns over, but sometimes you can get while the turn
Anyway turns should be cutted always:
-20 skip turn
-you spawn
-you have 18seq, so it your turn, ot the one from the other guy with 18
-you shot
-18guy shot
-16guy shot
14guy shot
-you die, but you at least harm or kill one of them

agree