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Title: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: 700noob007 on June 22, 2013, 06:31:30 pm
A experiment done by a soviet biologist chopping a dogs head off and then reviving the animal! very interesting watch the whole video (not for the weak at heart)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lICXAFFxWgk
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Eternauta on June 22, 2013, 06:37:58 pm
Watched it years ago. According to what I read somewhere, the experiment was done but this film is NOT actually its documentation, but a fake movie made to explain what the experiment was about. I mean, it's obivous that the film is a fake, just watch that dog head moving so much, and moving its tongue... but apparently the experiment was carried out.

It seems that the experiment did work, although the dog only survived a few hours. Personally, I find it hard to believe all this, especially the heart and lungs being revived separatedly.
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: 700noob007 on June 22, 2013, 06:40:33 pm
Watched it years ago. According to what I read somewhere, the experiment was done but this film is NOT actually its documentation, but a fake movie made to explain what the experiment was about.

It seems that the experiment did work, although the dog only survived a few hours. Personally, I find it hard to believe all this, especially the heart and lungs being revived separatedly.

Yes, but that was done during the cold-war think about what is possible with todays' technology with that idea set in mind.
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: headshot on June 22, 2013, 06:41:03 pm
Actually I do believe it's fake. However during cold war it was treaten seriously. It was also one of the inspiration of George Romero to make "Night of the Living Dead".

The only "real zombie" I've heard about are the heavily drugged people on Haiti where shamans, due to the voodoo techniques and specific drugs makes the people mindless slaves of shamans.
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Gob on June 22, 2013, 07:02:22 pm
Such bullshit. I bet that after you watched that you went and started looking up zombies too.
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: 700noob007 on June 22, 2013, 07:04:03 pm
Such bullshit. I bet that after you watched that you went and started looking up zombies too.

Nope, found it when I was searching zombies.
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: A Traitor on June 22, 2013, 07:11:58 pm
Actually I do believe it's fake. However during cold war it was treaten seriously. It was also one of the inspiration of George Romero to make "Night of the Living Dead".
Interesting. Thank you for that nugget. ;)
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Alvarez on June 22, 2013, 09:59:17 pm
I recall a scifi classic book called Professor Dowell's Head, especially the parts describing the experiences as a separated human head.

Also, Soviets seemed to do even more with dog heads.
(http://www.oldtimefarmshepherd.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/kollie.jpg)
(http://laststandonzombieisland.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/post-3-12987526723404.jpg)
(http://www.oldtimefarmshepherd.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Kollie_3136.jpg)

And then, some real stuff being made in USA:
http://vimeo.com/20230127
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 22, 2013, 10:22:40 pm
(http://www.oldtimefarmshepherd.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Kollie_3136.jpg)
What possible purpose would a robot with a dogs head have?
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Dark. on June 22, 2013, 11:16:32 pm
We are doomed
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Gob on June 22, 2013, 11:17:34 pm
What possible purpose would a robot with a dogs head have?

I am asking myself the same question man. Russians and their ideas... what can you do...
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Alvarez on June 22, 2013, 11:26:39 pm
What possible purpose would a robot with a dogs head have?

Scientific lulz, i guess.
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: JovankaB on June 22, 2013, 11:41:57 pm
What possible purpose would a robot with a dogs head have?

Any purpose that you can train a dog to
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Lexx on June 23, 2013, 12:21:04 am
Well, it's just a prototype. If this would work, you could replace the dog head with a human head. In theory, this could keep many people alive for a lot longer... Though, question is if one would want to stay alive like that.

I remember that I've seen a documentation about this a few years back. Some dude said that he could have saved Princess Dianas life with a similar machine.
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: greenthumb on June 23, 2013, 01:13:08 am
me havent watched whole video, just the second half. But i dont think it was any special operation, just curious or cruel scientists. They made dog's brain starving for 10 minutes, what in most cases damages brain, similar as drowning. Then they substitued his hearth and lungs with fancy machine for some time, finally connected his brain back to old hardware... But most of cells in his body would die after  much longer time than 10 minutes, just most sensitive are neural cells ofc, which needed some substitution of oxygen source.

If you would get lung failure in hospital with perspective of fast transplantation, they would do similar operation, just not disconecting your brain from rest of the body, like in case of poor dog.

Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Slaver Snipe on June 23, 2013, 02:17:05 am
Cyber Jesus, with most experiments you start on "lesser" animals, just like today where most medicines are tested on animals before going near human trials.  In this case it was the soviets and the soviets were like rats are for capitalistic pigs, we test on dogs!  First test cutting off dogs head and see if you can make it come back to life, second test would be seeing if it is possible to interconnect the dog with a machine and create a cybernetic being.  You HAVE to do both steps with animals before humans as having the first step done with an animal successful and then going straight to human testing on a cybernetic being would be extremely fatal to the first test subjects.

On a side note, I love reading about the experiments both sides tried doing during the cold war, a lot of very creative thinking took place then.
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Gob on June 24, 2013, 12:00:38 am
Looking better at that dog robot thing reminds me of General Barnaky from FOT after he was converted to a robot. maybe they got inspired from there when they made him.

(http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/04/3/7/6/3166321553805103.jpg)

or the guy from Borderlands don't remember his name tho

also

http://calvertjournal.com/comment/show/821/dmitry-itskov-avatar-2045-project-immortality-cyborg
http://purpleslinky.com/trivia/science/five-mad-scientists-who-went-too-far-in-the-name-of-science/
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: 700noob007 on June 24, 2013, 11:15:47 pm
All I can say what a creative idea and what it could and will lead too! Hopefully I will become robot-human cyborg cross breeder!
Title: Re: Reviving of Dead Organisms!
Post by: Haraldx on June 26, 2013, 01:28:36 am
If only this technology could revive 2238...