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Title: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: MySzk on June 09, 2013, 12:38:46 pm
For what waste this many summer achievements how already to transform it


transfer the np game to wp
wp is advertising such shits often in order into it to play and people are conned a traffic on the server is becoming
most probably kind of this way to advertise fonline 2238 it quite a lot new it would appear and will be enough around a few it would stay a bit so that this game revives
I don't know what principles of accepting into the protectorate on wp are I suspect around some reverence of profits from micro payments but what there to do micropayments and this way nobody normal will be smsów to send at least....

kind of this way too smsa it was possible to get Adwenced Power Armor

http://violetfall.pl/site/
Such a last example of the game advertised on wp in the phase of the baby's sleeping bag and with the plenty bugs little play (because without basic mechanisms) with the hastily done micro system of the payment from which still nobody will use: P
really compared with it fonline 2238 it is an example of the stability and plauyabilty


oryginal text


Po co marnować tylu letni dorobek jak już to przekształcić


przenieście grę np na wp
wp reklamuje nieraz takie gówna żeby w to zagrać i ludzie się nabierają robi się ruch na serwerze
pewnie jakby tak rozreklamować fonline 2238 to sporo nowych by się pojawiło i wystarczy ze kilku by zostało to trochę by ożyła ta gra
nie wiem jakie są zasady przyjęcia w protektorat na wp podejrzewam ze jakąś cześć zysków z mikro płatności ale co tam zrobić mikropłatności i tak nikt normalny nie będzie smsów wysyłać chociaż ....

jakby tak za smsa można było dostać Adwenced Power Armor

http://violetfall.pl/site/
Taki ostatni przykład gry reklamowanej na wp w fazie beta i z mnóstwem bugów mało grywalnej (bo bez podstawowych mechanizmów) z naprędce zrobionym systemem mikro płatności z których i tak nikt nie skorzysta :P
naprawdę w porównaniu z tym fonline to przykład stabilności i grykrywalność
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: xsarq on June 09, 2013, 02:48:33 pm
Google Translator failed you I`ll try to translate into slighly less broken english.

In short MySzK is suggesting to transform the game under wings of some kind of sponsor in order to save years of hard work. He wants 2238 to act like this one - http://violetfall.pl/site/, he also suggested that the sponsor will get their money back from players thanks to the paid content(like buying APA for money.)
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: MySzk on June 09, 2013, 05:54:57 pm
xsarq thenx for short translation
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: Ganado on June 09, 2013, 09:03:34 pm
Based off of what xsarq said, I think that would violate copyright, if you pay to get any type of in-game content.
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: A Traitor on June 10, 2013, 04:51:31 pm
Based off of what xsarq said, I think that would violate copyright, if you pay to get any type of in-game content.
Not as s non-profit. Of course, you'd have to get rid of excess revenue at the end of the year, but that's simple enough; Cut a check to another non-profit.
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 10, 2013, 05:31:21 pm
You can't do that.
That would breach copyright.
If the Devs earn money of it (IE player gibs moneis for Power Armor) Bethesda will sue their ass off.

I mean they sued Notch (maker of Minecraft) for naming his game "Scrolls" for fuck sake.
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: Michaelh139 on June 10, 2013, 08:01:53 pm
You can't do that.
That would breach copyright.
If the Devs earn money of it (IE player gibs moneis for Power Armor) Bethesda will sue their ass off.

I mean they sued Notch (maker of Minecraft) for naming his game "Scrolls" for fuck sake.
What?.....

What?

They have, copyright, over the word "Scrolls"?

W-w-.... what?  (And by his game you mean minecraft right?  He had to change it to minecraft I guess?)
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: A Traitor on June 10, 2013, 08:03:30 pm
You can't do that.
That would breach copyright.
If the Devs earn money of it (IE player gibs moneis for Power Armor) Bethesda will sue their ass off.

I mean they sued Notch (maker of Minecraft) for naming his game "Scrolls" for fuck sake.
You can sue anyone for anything. I could sue you for breathing. You could countersue me for the same thing. It’s up to the courts to decide if it has merit. (A rather novel version of this was some guy in Russia who tried to patent clouds; As they would then be HIS property, he could sue anyone who “damaged or defaced” them, hence he could sue corporations for air pollution. Fortunately or not, he lost his patent suit.)
I for one would take that risk- If I knew ANYTHING about programming. I don’t.
No profits can get away with a lot of things that for-profits can’t, and there are a few other… ¿How should I say this? A few other “handy tricks” to get around the finer particulars of copyright laws.
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 11, 2013, 01:16:03 am
What?.....

What?

They have, copyright, over the word "Scrolls"?

W-w-.... what?  (And by his game you mean minecraft right?  He had to change it to minecraft I guess?)
No,he was making another game after he had finished minecraft.
He named it Scrolls and Bethesda rushed to sue because people may confuse it with their game that they were making that year (The elder scrolls Skyrim).
Obviously they lost and Scrolls is out today with it's intended name.
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: A Traitor on June 11, 2013, 01:59:43 am
No,he was making another game after he had finished minecraft.
He named it Scrolls and Bethesda rushed to sue because people may confuse it with their game that they were making that year (The elder scrolls Skyrim).
Obviously they lost and Scrolls is out today with it's intended name.
Demonstrating my point.
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: MySzk on June 11, 2013, 11:09:12 pm
A Traitor has right
If you cnow how it can be walk a round
or in case of sue process probably ben in cantry wher is server ...... we invite to Poland = meny years of cort work guaranteed and verdict punishment some % from profits
its bether then nathing
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 11, 2013, 11:53:03 pm
A Traitor has right
If you cnow how it can be walk a round
or in case of sue process probably ben in cantry wher is server ...... we invite to Poland = meny years of cort work guaranteed and verdict punishment some % from profits
its bether then nathing
It's still illegal.
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: A Traitor on June 12, 2013, 01:08:00 am
It's still illegal.
Not as a non-/not-for-profit enterprise. Also, if there it is privet-user only, it is inherently exempt… For example, if you loaded FO/FO2/FO:T into YOUR computer, then let YOUR friends use YOUR computer, you’re beyond legal.
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: Mayck on June 12, 2013, 11:08:39 am
Regardless of being free or not, technically Bethesda as the copyright owner can come and shutdown even non-profit free projects. But most companies don't do that, if you don't give the reason to do so... So the point of not providing any payed services is just to not piss them off.
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: A Traitor on June 12, 2013, 03:34:36 pm
Regardless of being free or not, technically Bethesda as the copyright owner can come and shutdown even non-profit free projects. But most companies don't do that, if you don't give the reason to do so... So the point of not providing any payed services is just to not piss them off.
Those considerations do make it… EASIER… To ignore…
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: Ganado on June 12, 2013, 03:58:40 pm
Regardless of being free or not, technically Bethesda as the copyright owner can come and shutdown even non-profit free projects. But most companies don't do that, if you don't give the reason to do so... So the point of not providing any payed services is just to not piss them off.
This has probably been discussed before, but: Is the engine itself in this area as well?
Title: Re: Why to waste someny work someny peaple?
Post by: wladimiiir on June 12, 2013, 04:22:31 pm
This has probably been discussed before, but: Is the engine itself in this area as well?
I haven't seen the hardcoded part of the engine, but I suspect, that the only reason for not releasing the whole engine is that it uses some codes from original F/F2 games. :P And this might be a copyright issue.