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Title: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on January 07, 2012, 09:32:16 am
so decide lets make a thread to track locations of support perks


awareness
dustys bar - guy in corner with leather armor i think he is tandys son.

Cautious Nature

same guy as awareness.

Swift learner.

Atleast 50 science and 6 inteligence for this

Hub. Bookstore. Ask about 'special' book.

educated

100% science needed

downstairs library talk to girl.

Gecko skinning

Req: 50% outdoorsman
Location: Klamath, Trapper town, girl in metal armor near burning metal barrel. any trapper will do really not just one near burning barrel.

Ranger

Tamira in front of Gordon's Gas Station
dialogue to get ranger perk goes like this: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1.

Harmless, Sex appeal and Magnetic personality

 Ms. Kitty in Cat's Paw, Reno

Demolition expert  

Redding, right building from main entrance, guy in red skirt near slot machine

Dead Man Walking

Necropolis. Ghoul near Water pump.

Pathfinder  

tandy's son again. same guy as awareness. (dustys bar)

theif support perks  
there is a man that blends in with the shadows in hubs old town the support perks he gives are.

Thief: you need 100% steal "The blood of thief runs trough your veins. Luck/50 chance for no timeout when failing to steal. A well rounded thief is alive thief."

Master Thief: you need 150% steal "A master thief is proficient at stealing and picking locks. He is able to attempt his thievery twice offten.

Pickpocket: you need 175% steal "You are much more adept at stealing than a normal crook. You can steal with the best of them, because with this perk, you halve the size and facing modifiers when stealing from a person."


Negotiator  

New Reno, Gas Station T-Rex or Tyranosaurus or how its his name.

Mr.Fixit

in den. Where the car was sold in the single game. (where you got your highway man)

Light step

Klamath kid in trapper town west house in the farm

Speaker

Robed guy inside Cathedral south of SF, I guess where Junkyard used to be.

10 caps to get in- I used the "lie" option, because I thought "Truth" would make me a faction member.

Need 125 Speech.

Snake eater  

doctor in junktown , after you do his quest to bring radioscorpions eggs

treasure hunter

mickey in broken hills in front of bank.

dismantler

junktown,boyce

best of bad loot  

junktown , boyce

Faster Healing

Dr. Fung, San-Francisco

Explorer

is obtained from Mantis, the ghoul in ncr trainstation. You have to visit all train stations + all big green circles on the worldmap.

rad resistance
in gecko's reactor 
http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=267286113_screen_16_01_2012_17_34_29_122_13lo.jpg




for requirements for said support perks and there description check out.
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=20005.msg167480#msg167480
post if you find any perks i have not updated.





Title: Re: support perks locations
Post by: Wichura on January 07, 2012, 10:29:39 am
awareness
dustys bar - guy in corner with leather armor i think he is tandys son.
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4628/awarenessm.jpg)
Title: Re: support perks locations
Post by: Surf on January 07, 2012, 10:42:30 am
People are supposed to find them on their own, so don't ruin the fun for some players. If you want to share the locations of these quests, do it in private please.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Bartosz on January 07, 2012, 11:31:25 am
It'll be on wiki sooner or later. It' up to players whether they want to find them on their own or learn from someone else.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Redivivus on January 07, 2012, 12:35:28 pm
awareness
dustys bar - guy in corner with leather armor i think he is tandys son.

This guy also gives Cautious Nature.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: pistacja on January 07, 2012, 01:04:19 pm
Anyone found educated?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Gob on January 07, 2012, 01:25:30 pm
Is it possible to obtain both perks from that guy in Dusty's bar?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Jackall on January 07, 2012, 01:30:22 pm
Stop calling it the dusty's cantina guy. It's the son of Tandi ffs.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Redivivus on January 07, 2012, 03:38:19 pm
Swift learner. Hub. Bookstore. Ask about 'special' book.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Hololasima on January 07, 2012, 03:45:36 pm
Swift learner. Hub. Bookstore. Ask about 'special' book.

Atleast 50 science and 6 inteligence for this
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jodwig on January 07, 2012, 04:05:31 pm
In Vault City, the Doctor can learn you something for sure, but I didn't have enough FA/Doc yet.
Title: Re: support perks locations
Post by: JovankaB on January 07, 2012, 04:24:21 pm
People are supposed to find them on their own, so don't ruin the fun for some players. If you want to share the locations of these quests, do it in private please.

Now, when it's marked with (spoiler) tag, people who find it fun looking for them on their own don't have to look here.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Wichura on January 07, 2012, 05:29:18 pm
Swift learner. Hub. Bookstore. Ask about 'special' book.
Atleast 50 science and 6 inteligence for this
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4505/swiftlearner.jpg)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on January 07, 2012, 07:37:13 pm
a nice person sent me pm and told me where educated is.

 ok educated=

100% science needed

downstairs library talk to girl.

Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Redivivus on January 07, 2012, 07:52:31 pm
Obvious Gecko skinning.
Req: 50% outdoorsman
Location: Klamath, Trapper town, girl in metal armor near burning metal barrel.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Slaver Snipe on January 08, 2012, 12:29:48 am
Was it the girl next to the burning barrel? I thought it was the man next to it then again I am pretty tired.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: X_Treme on January 08, 2012, 01:23:13 am
anyone knows where is the "ranger" perk?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Gob on January 08, 2012, 01:32:02 am
anyone knows where is the "ranger" perk?

Ranger perk, I belive it's Sha Enin in NCR that trader in front of the tent with 2 tables around him. I belive you need outdoorsman or something or barter. It cought my attention when he said something about "great travelling merchant by the name Sha Enin" or something like that.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: The Good Doctor on January 08, 2012, 02:09:14 am
Is there any limit to support perks?
(for example is it possible to get all of them if we meet the requirements? or is there a hard-coded limit of like 3 supports per character?)

Do support perks take up the place of level perks?
(so we get 8 level perks now, does taking 1 support perk leave us with 7 level perks?)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Gob on January 08, 2012, 02:12:11 am
Do support perks take up the place of level perks?
(so we get 8 level perks now, does taking 1 support perk leave us with 7 level perks?)

I don't think so :) and if that's the case then my character is fucked already.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: McLooter on January 08, 2012, 02:19:37 am
Ranger perk, I belive it's Sha Enin in NCR that trader in front of the tent with 2 tables around him. I belive you need outdoorsman or something or barter. It cought my attention when he said something about "great travelling merchant by the name Sha Enin" or something like that.

100 Outdoorsman

EDIT: Tried, he doesn't give anything, and btw he's not Sha Enin, that's Seymour.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Wichura on January 08, 2012, 03:01:44 am
Obvious Gecko skinning.
Req: 50% outdoorsman
Location: Klamath, Trapper town, girl in metal armor near burning metal barrel.
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/575/geckoskinning.jpg)

Cautious Nature, NCR's bar:
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7284/cautiousnature.jpg)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: JovankaB on January 08, 2012, 01:16:42 pm
Ranger perk: Tamira in front of Gordon's Gas Station.
The dialog is long, there is a few not so obvious answers and if you choose
any wrong answer she will attack you (but you can try again, just let her kill you).
Solution:

(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/690/tamira.jpg) (http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/690/tamira.jpg)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Gob on January 08, 2012, 01:30:55 pm
Thank you JovankaB
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: m208 on January 08, 2012, 01:45:09 pm
Thank you very much, JovankaB
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Redivivus on January 08, 2012, 02:15:30 pm
a nice person sent me pm and told me where educated is.

 ok educated=

100% science needed

downstairs library talk to girl.

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2464/educated.jpg)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lizard on January 08, 2012, 03:12:05 pm
Ranger perk: Tamira in front of Gordon's Gas Station.
The dialog is long, there is a few not so obvious answers and if you choose
any wrong answer she will attack you (but you can try again, just let her kill you).
Solution:

(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/690/tamira.jpg) (http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/690/tamira.jpg)

Thanks, JovankaB! Although the text is small and unreadable...it's for the best i think. :) The length of the dialogue impressed me, it must be very well written, i think i'll enjoy this fine piece of dialogue without reading the solution.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Ulfarr on January 08, 2012, 05:23:43 pm
who knows where i can find pathfinders?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Fei on January 08, 2012, 05:33:45 pm
Who knows where to find perk "thief"?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Solar on January 08, 2012, 05:41:21 pm
There is currently no limit to the support perks - it depends only on how much you raise your support skills to qualify for them.

If it turns out you can get too many (or too few) then skill requirements can be raised (or lowered).

They are totally independent to the normal perks too.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eraus on January 08, 2012, 08:28:06 pm
How about small and big and similiar support perks? You can have it all?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lizard on January 08, 2012, 08:59:11 pm
How about small and big and similiar support perks? You can have it all?

Didn't Solar already answered this in previous post?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Aeco on January 08, 2012, 09:01:33 pm
How about small and big and similiar support perks? You can have it all?

If you mean the professions: they are limited to 3 levels
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jodwig on January 08, 2012, 09:25:19 pm
How about Boneyard Guard Support Perk, which gives you Small Guns? Was it fixed or do I still need to have less than 50% SG to take it?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Redivivus on January 08, 2012, 09:40:34 pm
How about Boneyard Guard Support Perk, which gives you Small Guns? Was it fixed or do I still need to have less than 50% SG to take it?
Less than 50% SG/BG/EW. It wasn't changed.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Swinglinered on January 08, 2012, 10:09:33 pm
If you mean the professions: they are limited to 3 levels

3 instead of 4 like it used to be?

So I can't get 2 levels of 2 Profs?

Also:

The Madam in Cat's Paw in New Reno gives Sex Appeal.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on January 08, 2012, 10:26:32 pm
I thought the perk Sex Appeal doesn't work  :-\
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 08, 2012, 11:13:03 pm
now it's a support perk, read the chanellog
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Aeco on January 08, 2012, 11:40:17 pm
Does someone know how to actually skin the Geckos? I got the perk but neither looting nor using knife on it works...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on January 09, 2012, 12:05:08 am
Anyone know snake-eater?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: wladimiiir on January 09, 2012, 12:06:45 am
Does someone know how to actually skin the Geckos? I got the perk but neither looting nor using knife on it works...
If you kill gecko, you can loot pelt. If someone else kills it, you will NOT get pelt.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 09, 2012, 12:09:57 am
leader of ghost farm has a couple nice long text strings. perhaps survivalist? I don't have the level or int to verify
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Key-el on January 09, 2012, 12:26:03 am
does anyone know where i can find the dismantler perk?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eternauta on January 09, 2012, 03:29:54 am
(Ranger dialogue)

And then some people laugh at the "Mad Max wannabes" who talk to NPCs. A dialogue with a NPC is usually a lot more interesting than a dialogue with most players...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 09, 2012, 01:19:14 pm
does anyone know where I can find the explorer, scout and pathfinder perks? ty
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Biogitanus on January 09, 2012, 06:04:36 pm
Any found fast healing?
 Rad Resistance
Snakeater
or  Dead Man Walking XP
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Hololasima on January 09, 2012, 07:30:02 pm
Any idea where to get Dismantler perk? I am really desperate  ???
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Furior on January 09, 2012, 09:32:24 pm
Does anyone know where can i find pickpocket perk?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 09, 2012, 11:24:15 pm
There is a man in Hub oldtown who something something "blends in with the shadows" in his description. he told me something along the lines of "right place, but you're not ready yet." he's in the building east of Jacob's. His description and dialogue uses a lot of sneak adjectives. sneak/steal related perk?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Redivivus on January 09, 2012, 11:26:05 pm
Harmless, Sex appeal and Magnetic personality are given by Ms. Kitty in Cat's Paw, Reno.
Demolition expert - Redding, right building from main entrance, guy in red skirt near slot machine.
Dead Man Walking - Necropolis. Ghoul near Water pump.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 09, 2012, 11:58:26 pm
Pathfinder - same gay in dustys bar (awarness)
Negotiator?? anybody?:D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Kombajn on January 10, 2012, 12:33:36 am
There is a man in Hub oldtown who something something "blends in with the shadows" in his description. he told me something along the lines of "right place, but you're not ready yet." he's in the building east of Jacob's. His description and dialogue uses a lot of sneak adjectives. sneak/steal related perk?


Yup, you're right. He teached me "thief" perk. I bet he will teach me the second thievery perk as well.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Stigmata on January 10, 2012, 01:48:19 am
theres a way to get perks using drugs? I mean, if I have 148 of outdoorsman and I need 150 for the perk, can I take a drug to get the skills up?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Kelin on January 10, 2012, 02:01:38 am

Yup, you're right. He teached me "thief" perk. I bet he will teach me the second thievery perk as well.
He will.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on January 10, 2012, 03:26:17 am
theres a way to get perks using drugs? I mean, if I have 148 of outdoorsman and I need 150 for the perk, can I take a drug to get the skills up?

no drugs dont affect skills.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Enzotainment on January 10, 2012, 11:08:01 am
Has anyone seen:
- Faster Healing
- Snake eater
- Explorer
- Scout
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: BaccepmaH on January 10, 2012, 11:44:30 am
Wanted: Treasure Hunter perk.
Reward: Recpect.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Swinglinered on January 10, 2012, 11:58:58 am
Found some wierd Pyromaniac dialog in Redding- gives free 10mm Pistol.

But Pyro is supposed to be a Level Perk.

Maybe I missed something.

It is black red shirt in left of Malamute Saloon.

MagPers verified in Reno- Miss Kitty.


I'm still looking for Scout and Explorer.
I have talked to almost everyone in every place.

Bugs? Unimplemented?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 10, 2012, 12:06:52 pm
hmm, who in the wasteland is an awesome explorer?, who efectivly, lives in the waste and knows it like the back of his hand?

the Chosen One? The Vault Dweler, A folower in F2 or even in FOnline?

probably lil Jesus, or one of the Wrights?  how about a trapper or a science man that knows shit in surviving the wasteland

who is teh survivalist of the wastest?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: wladimiiir on January 10, 2012, 12:30:05 pm
Could any VC citizen check if Valerie (Vic`s daughter) gives any support perk (I would guess Dismantler). Thank you.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Swinglinered on January 10, 2012, 03:38:35 pm
hmm, who in the wasteland is an awesome explorer?, who efectivly, lives in the waste and knows it like the back of his hand?

the Chosen One? The Vault Dweler, A folower in F2 or even in FOnline?

probably lil Jesus, or one of the Wrights?  how about a trapper or a science man that knows shit in surviving the wasteland

who is teh survivalist of the wastest?

I'll check Harold, Cassidy, Vic, Myron again just in case.

Maybe that walkabout ghoul-I'll see if I can find him in the freak show in Den.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: pletser09 on January 10, 2012, 03:54:37 pm
Where is BARTER perk? If somebody find it, answer my question, please!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Hololasima on January 10, 2012, 05:41:04 pm
Can anyone at least make a screeshoot of Dismantler perk in character tab so people will know its REALLY in game? Thanks
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 10, 2012, 05:48:13 pm
I dont find Negotiator barter perk. I study almost all cities. please anybody help:D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Hololasima on January 10, 2012, 05:54:50 pm
I dont find Negotiator barter perk. I study almost all cities. please anybody help:D

Negotiator New Reno, Gas Station T-Rex or Tyranosaurus or how its his name  ;)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Geras on January 10, 2012, 06:11:36 pm
Has anyone seen:
...
- Explorer
...

There is a guy in Junktown's south gate bar, whom to you have to buy a beer (in the dialog) and he speaks of some lost trapper in Boneyard area. He also says that if one want's to find special places that trapper is a man you want to speak to. He gives hints where to find him. Possible Explorer.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 10, 2012, 06:17:59 pm
that is quest to get bunker base for faction


snakeeater anyone?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: White tiger on January 10, 2012, 06:32:44 pm
Mr.FixIt in den. Where the car was sold a single game

need 150% repair.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 10, 2012, 08:50:53 pm
Where is the boneyard guard perk?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jodwig on January 10, 2012, 09:34:19 pm
Where is the boneyard guard perk?

In the Gun Runners, a guy in combat armor in shop will teach you, but you need 3 CH and less than 50% Small Guns skill.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 10, 2012, 11:03:37 pm
There is no such perk called "Boneyard Guard" - What you mean above is just a little bonus, added long time ago. That's not a support perk.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 11, 2012, 02:31:47 am
hmm, who in the wasteland is an awesome explorer?, who efectivly, lives in the waste and knows it like the back of his hand?

the Chosen One? The Vault Dweler, A folower in F2 or even in FOnline?

probably lil Jesus, or one of the Wrights?  how about a trapper or a science man that knows shit in surviving the wasteland

who is teh survivalist of the wastest?
hmmm.... anyone check hermits or other talkative encounter-folk?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: spears on January 11, 2012, 04:18:56 am
Light step- Klamath kid in trapper town west house in the farm.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Swinglinered on January 11, 2012, 08:57:32 am
Speaker- Robed guy inside Cathedral south of SF, I guess where Junkyard used to be.

10 caps to get in- I used the "lie" option, because I thought "Truth" would make me a faction member.

Need 125 Speech.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Dr. Parchir on January 11, 2012, 01:30:23 pm
Snake eater - doctor in junktown , after you do his quest to bring radioscorpions eggs.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: lisac2k on January 11, 2012, 03:32:39 pm
Obvious Gecko skinning.
Req: 50% outdoorsman
Location: Klamath, Trapper town, girl in metal armor near burning metal barrel.
Was it the girl next to the burning barrel? I thought it was the man next to it then again I am pretty tired.
Just to clarify, some support perks can be obtained from different NPCs of the same group. For example, any trapper in Klamath can teach you how to skin geckos, as long as you're talking to any trapper (which also makes sense).

Quote from: JovankaB
Ranger perk: Tamira in front of Gordon's Gas Station.
The dialog is long, there is a few not so obvious answers and if you choose
any wrong answer she will attack you (but you can try again, just let her kill you).
Jojo, I thought you saw more western movies ;D The "wrong" lines are imagined as exactly those words or actions in a situation given that would lead to a premature fight. But, whatever, everybody have their own interpretation and understanding of those, and the whole thing is not enforced (you can get the perk later again, like you said). I hope you had fun, which was the original intention behind this.

Additionally, if you get a perk, it will be visible in your character window. Talking about perks like "Boneyard Guard" is a false lead, causing confusion and lost of time among players, looking for something that's not there in the first place. Pay attention what you write here, think of other players.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Surf on January 11, 2012, 03:38:40 pm
I hope you had fun, which was the original intention behind this.

I found it not bad, but extremeley cheesy writing and this music was very unfitting. (especially in times when all other sfx and music don't work :( ) :P Grats for trying some different approaches though.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lacan on January 11, 2012, 03:45:21 pm
how many supports perks can one have ?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: spears on January 11, 2012, 03:45:45 pm
no limit
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 11, 2012, 05:19:05 pm
don't you mean 40?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Abaddon Raptus on January 11, 2012, 05:29:54 pm
What about second pathfinder?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: mr Wipe on January 11, 2012, 07:05:32 pm
and what about thief perks and sienced/rep
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: JovankaB on January 11, 2012, 07:52:35 pm
Jojo, I thought you saw more western movies ;D

The dialog was nice. The first time I was doing well until I had to *spit*. Dr Jovanka doesn't *spit* ;)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Warpig on January 12, 2012, 12:36:47 am
I want to report, that i obtained the Awarness perk at Dustys in NCR with my unarmed build with PE 1. I was lazy to read more back than this page so sorry if it was planned change or reported some time ago.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Solar on January 12, 2012, 12:39:00 am
6 Pe or 100 unarmed/melee
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Warpig on January 12, 2012, 12:41:12 am
Edit: Damn im realy stupid. Im sorry, i will think more and read more carefully before postin. Moderator please delete my both posts  ::)

RavenousRat: Yes i missed that Or in the requirements and tought that i need both. Unarmed and PE.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on January 12, 2012, 12:45:23 am
Can't people read the word OR any more? Do people think that the word "or" means "and" these days?

Don't mean to sound offensive, it's just that there has been a few posts about this sort of thing and those people have misread the requirements.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: RavenousRat on January 12, 2012, 12:50:04 am
Can't people read the word OR any more? Do people think that the word "or" means "and" these days?
from first level.
You can't have 100% unarmed at 1st level.

Edit:
Or he meant that he has 1 PE from 1st level? :D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Warpig on January 12, 2012, 01:11:09 am
aaah wtf a missclick as a bonus to my idiocy. Im rather login off, too much beers this evening. MOOOOOD :-[
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: mr Wipe on January 12, 2012, 05:12:30 am
where are now adv workbenches and where we can find craft plans?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eraus on January 12, 2012, 05:57:24 am
where are now adv workbenches and where we can find craft plans?

In heaven probably.

Anyway more perks less spaming please.

Big gunners 1 prof is in Hub, Old town.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: JasonBlankenship on January 12, 2012, 07:33:42 am
For those who have gotten snake eater, was there something special you had to do to complete the prerequisite radscorpion eggs quest?  I got the cave, killed the scorpions, and ended up with 2 eggs (the scorpions were disappearing right after they died for some reason), but now there's no dialog option with the doc to complete the quest.  The quest is still open in pip boy, and it's not showing as failed or anything.  I did die once during the cave clearing, so maybe this is a one-chance type quest?

Thanks for any help/advice.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Jlekc on January 12, 2012, 08:02:13 am
For those who have gotten snake eater, was there something special you had to do to complete the prerequisite radscorpion eggs quest?  I got the cave, killed the scorpions, and ended up with 2 eggs (the scorpions were disappearing right after they died for some reason), but now there's no dialog option with the doc to complete the quest.  The quest is still open in pip boy, and it's not showing as failed or anything.  I did die once during the cave clearing, so maybe this is a one-chance type quest?

Thanks for any help/advice.

Same problem, no solution.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: TheGreenHand on January 12, 2012, 08:14:48 am
Same problem, no solution.
I'm wondering how many eggs you need.  I have 4.  I haven't tried this, but I imagine that if you have a buddy start the quest, do it with him, and get all his eggs, you could add those to yours and turn the quest in.  He wouldn't be able to finish it then, but have him do it on a guy with no OD that wouldn't be able to take snake eater anyway.  Again, it's a theory, haven't tried it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: MacHead on January 12, 2012, 08:25:49 am
You need 5 eggs.
W8 for bugfix (i think that speed of corpse dissapear is bugged), or try to get egg from other avatars.

P.S. Need dismantle perk location.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Biogitanus on January 12, 2012, 10:52:42 am
whre is the crazy doc who gib u Fast Healing XP
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 12, 2012, 01:03:04 pm
where to get best of a bad loot?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 12, 2012, 01:43:00 pm
Explorer and Scout?? Has anyone found these?  :-*
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 12, 2012, 02:06:11 pm
Support Perks

Awareness


Faster Healing

Rad Resistance

Educated


Snakeater

Mr. Fixit

Master Thief

Speaker

Pickpocket

Explorer

Pathfinder

Scout

Ranger
Location: Tamira in Gordon Gas Station


Swift Learner

Profession: Armorer

Profession: Gunsmith (Small Guns)

Profession: Gunsmith (Big Guns)

Profession: Energy Expert

Profession: Demolition Expert

Profession: Doctor

Cautious Nature

Demolition Expert

Harmless

Light Step

Magnetic Personality

Negotiator

Thief

Gecko Skinning

Sex Appeal

Stealth Girl

Best of a Bad Lot

Dismantler

Treasure Hunter

Dead Man Walking



if you can please post pics with solutions and NPCs i will add them in this quote
also i will try to keep it up to date[/list][/list][/list]
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: spears on January 12, 2012, 02:14:59 pm
Scout- Sergeant stark vc corrections.
Demo expert- guy at slot machines redding.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: kartowka on January 12, 2012, 02:44:05 pm
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9606/screen12012012154555.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/screen12012012154555.jpg/)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 12, 2012, 02:54:55 pm
What do you find in locked lockers??:D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: FrankCastle on January 12, 2012, 04:34:24 pm
i have 100 science but got only 7 int
can i get educated by using mentats???
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: codave on January 12, 2012, 07:29:28 pm
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9606/screen12012012154555.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/screen12012012154555.jpg/)

That's very helpful.

Thank you.

 ::)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 12, 2012, 10:18:32 pm
who replys first about all tresure hunting perks will have my first blueprint
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: codave on January 12, 2012, 10:26:54 pm
who replys first about all tresure hunting perks will have my first blueprint

Midget in Broken Hills by the Well, in the middle of town... I think his name is Mickey.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 13, 2012, 07:40:00 am
know how to convince them
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: codave on January 13, 2012, 04:55:03 pm
know how to convince them

I was going to post it anyway, no convincing needed.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Sadik59 on January 13, 2012, 05:35:01 pm
Hey guys,

I want to know this perks, I searched for 3 days without find it... I searched in Google, in 2238 forum, in all fallouts wiki too.

Quote
Best of a Bad Lot
Ranks: 1
Generic requirements: Repair at least 75
You are an expert at rescuing equipment which is on the verge of falling apart. All items with a condition of below 15% count as 15% when being repaired.
Location:Not known

Thank you in advance, and sorry for my bad english.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on January 13, 2012, 09:42:07 pm
yea saik59 maybe you should have checked my updated post on first page. its last one.

boyce in junktown.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Sadik59 on January 13, 2012, 10:40:54 pm
Oh I'm sorry, it's my fault... I haven't refresh the first page all day :S

Thank you very much !
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eclair on January 14, 2012, 06:05:06 am
What about "Explorer"?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Gavin602 on January 14, 2012, 06:57:03 am
Can someone please post a pic of where to find the guy to get "Dead Man Walking"? I looked around necro but couldn't find it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 14, 2012, 10:05:44 am
you can quote this link in the first tread, it's more usefull than looking on the full topic then on the perks topic to check requirements
press the green Quote from: LagMaster on 12 January 2012, 16:06:11 to find the quote i am talking about
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Stigmata on January 14, 2012, 10:14:59 am
What about "Explorer"?

(2)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Zloj_Varg on January 14, 2012, 11:13:10 am
Faster Healing
Dr. Fung, San-Francisco
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 14, 2012, 02:27:07 pm
(2)

??? Only explorer missing..:D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Wichura on January 14, 2012, 02:47:29 pm
Can someone please post a pic of where to find the guy to get "Dead Man Walking"? I looked around necro but couldn't find it.
(https://i.imgur.com/hlknm.jpg)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Zloj_Varg on January 14, 2012, 07:12:10 pm
"Dismantler"  and "Best of a Bad Lot"
Junktown. House with workbench. NPC, who give profession Small Guns. His name..Boyce?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: subcor on January 14, 2012, 07:46:56 pm
Anyone knows where Stealth Girl and Rad Resistance is?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: yoz on January 14, 2012, 10:40:01 pm
What can you craft with doctor 2?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Aquare on January 14, 2012, 10:45:40 pm
I'm such a lazy man. :/ (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Profession%3A_Doctor)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: yoz on January 15, 2012, 12:33:17 am
What the hell? Super stimpacks are not craftable any more?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 15, 2012, 12:34:00 am
Buy them from the shops.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on January 15, 2012, 12:37:56 am
What the hell? Super stimpacks are not craftable any more?
What has this to do with the thread?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: FatherEnclave on January 15, 2012, 12:55:47 am
I'd like to point a few flags on potential support perk sources.

In Broken Hills:

1. Marcus will discuss big guns, but you run out of dialogue options
2. A big mutant in the building on the left of the mine entrace will discuss bombs and explosions (traps) with you but you run out of dialogue options again.
3. The ghoul in the power station will discuss energy storage and transfer with you but again run out of options. (potential energy weapons/science)?

No clue what these could have been.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Aquare on January 15, 2012, 01:02:39 am
What has this to do with the thread?
Nothing, if you have any problem press "report" button. Though, you will have to wait, until it is (re)moved.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 15, 2012, 01:05:41 am
Explorer, Has anyone found?? I tried in all cities except navarro and bos. Possible the perk is there?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 15, 2012, 01:19:22 am
I'd like to point a few flags on potential support perk sources.

In Broken Hills:

1. Marcus will discuss big guns, but you run out of dialogue options
2. A big mutant in the building on the left of the mine entrace will discuss bombs and explosions (traps) with you but you run out of dialogue options again.
3. The ghoul in the power station will discuss energy storage and transfer with you but again run out of options. (potential energy weapons/science)?

No clue what these could have been.
they are prewipe proffesion trainers, check the wiki
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: FatherEnclave on January 15, 2012, 01:37:18 am
Apologies, disregard.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 15, 2012, 03:05:03 am
Changelog as of 06-Jan-2012
[...]Vault 13 now starts invisible on the worldmap.[...]
(Emphasis mine.)

I suspect that Explorer is quest dependent, and that finding vault 13 may be involved.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Stigmata on January 15, 2012, 07:56:32 am
I'm such a lazy man. :/ (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Profession%3A_Doctor)

actually you cant craft stims with doc 2. Actually I cannot craft ANYTHING with doc 2. At least at the workbench. Even though the supertims appears in the list, normal stims doesnt

thats pretty weird, and confusing too D:
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Nikkex on January 15, 2012, 09:14:25 am
Rad resistance anyone?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: runboy93 on January 15, 2012, 01:03:56 pm
(Emphasis mine.)

I suspect that Explorer is quest dependent, and that finding vault 13 may be involved.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Enclave (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Enclave)
and "The Vault Experiment" topic
There is no mistake on this one..
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 15, 2012, 01:43:09 pm
(Emphasis mine.)

I suspect that Explorer is quest dependent, and that finding vault 13 may be involved.
i think i got it

anyone has an 150 ODM alt, PM me, i think i know where explorer is
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Enzotainment on January 15, 2012, 01:54:51 pm
i think i got it

anyone has an 150 ODM alt, PM me, i think i know where explorer is

PM'd :)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 15, 2012, 02:34:48 pm
tryed out, don't think will work

after talking with that guy in westin stables he tolds me about the doc has the map, but i talk to henry and jubilee, and none of them have lines

tested with some otehr players

is a bug?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: runboy93 on January 15, 2012, 02:43:05 pm
Take job request paper from billboard near NCR police station ;)

Talk old man inside.. he give you job to help brahmins.
Children will come to map, choose dialog to give them jerky (You got jerky from pot)

After that exit map and go back again talk to old man (Westin)
He give you holodisk you need to give thomas at Vault City.. hmm
(Encrypted holodisk.. hmm)

I update more as I got info.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: spears on January 15, 2012, 02:44:56 pm
thomas will tell you to come back later as he may have a job for you, cant triger it being later yet though.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: runboy93 on January 15, 2012, 02:48:48 pm
thomas will tell you to come back later as he may have a job for you, cant triger it being later yet though.
You asked on night? Nobody talks then on VC
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 15, 2012, 03:43:31 pm
Explorer isn't in game????:D wait for update
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: runboy93 on January 15, 2012, 03:48:28 pm
Explorer isn't in game????:D wait for update
I think it is, but "little" harder find than other support perks.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 15, 2012, 06:09:36 pm
Explorer is in the game, but I think it's pretty hard to find out how to get it.

Some day, someone will stumble over it by accident, I am very sure.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 15, 2012, 06:17:22 pm
moast of us will keep ODM at 100, unless we have barter/taxi alt

can you at least check it if you can take it by aking a char and taking it, then deleteself
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 15, 2012, 06:23:43 pm
Well, I can tell you that it doesn't matter how high your outdoorsman skill is. This probably must be changed in future, because getting it is extremely easy if you know what to do (compared to the positive gain you have with this perk).

/Edit: As I see now, I was wrong. You do need a certain % of outdoorsman. But it's not *that* high. There is also a level requirement.

/Edit2: I'll guess the outdoorsman skill requirement currently is wrong, so I am setting it up to 150%. :> Also I've removed the level 10 requirement. Will be in the game with the next update.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 15, 2012, 09:06:59 pm

Explorer

    Ranks: 1
    Generic requirements: Outdoorsman at least 150
    The mark of the Explorer is to search out new and interesting locations. With this Perk, you ignore speed penalties for terrain on the world map.

so you say you setted it wrongly?
at least tell us if is somehting about vault 13
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rozi on January 15, 2012, 09:08:55 pm

theif support perks
there is a man that blends in with the shadows in hub. he gives some theif support perks, not sure what they are.

Man i Warehouse in Hub.

Perk Thief: you need 100% steal "The blood of thief runs trough your veins. Luck/50 chance for no timeout when failing to steal. A well rounded thief is alive thief."

Perk Master Thied: you need 150% steal "A master thief is proficient at stealing and picking locks. He is able to attempt his thievery twice offten.

Perk Pickpocket: you need 175% steal "You are much more adept at stealing than a normal crook. You can steal with the best of them, because with this perk, you halve the size and facing modifiers when stealing from a person."
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 15, 2012, 09:33:22 pm
LagMaster, the perk has nothing to do with Vault 13 and the perk is not bugged, you can achieve it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on January 16, 2012, 02:02:35 am
Man i Warehouse in Hub.

Perk Thief: you need 100% steal "The blood of thief runs trough your veins. Luck/50 chance for no timeout when failing to steal. A well rounded thief is alive thief."

Perk Master Thied: you need 150% steal "A master thief is proficient at stealing and picking locks. He is able to attempt his thievery twice offten.

Perk Pickpocket: you need 175% steal "You are much more adept at stealing than a normal crook. You can steal with the best of them, because with this perk, you halve the size and facing modifiers when stealing from a person."


thanks man i updated with new info.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 16, 2012, 02:31:01 am
Ok, so we know that the current requirements are likely less than 150 ODM, unless Lexx made the change already. we also know that until next update, you must be lvl 10 to "stumble upon" it. Also, Lexx mentioned it was extremely easy to accomplish, but (obviously) hard to find out. Perhaps there's not a quest associated with it; just a talk-to-someone sort of perk. I'm gonna try talking to hermits/travelers/etc in encounters.


Also, can we get verification on Scout? I tried Stark as a lvl9 VC citizen with 154 ODM, 10 CH, 4IN, and only had options to ask about vault location, patrols, and raiders.

Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on January 16, 2012, 02:38:09 am
i was thinking about this explorer perk. i was thinking maybe its something  simple such as uncover every sqaure on the map, find every location on the map. something like that. if someone is up for it give it a shot.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: runboy93 on January 16, 2012, 07:15:49 am
i was thinking about this explorer perk. i was thinking maybe its something  simple such as uncover every sqaure on the map, find every location on the map. something like that. if someone is up for it give it a shot.
Would make sense :D
But.. nah.. it would be even too easy with outdoorsman+pathfinder

Edit: 180% ODM+pathfinder o/
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Screwdriver on January 16, 2012, 09:59:56 am
Did anybody been in the Glow? I was there and I saw bodies of ghouls (one was named), but radiation nearly kill me, so I had to run away from there. I think Explorer perk might be there, but in the lower levels.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Heywood on January 16, 2012, 04:29:47 pm
Hmm Rad Resistance perk might be with the Mantis at the NCR train station. Guy (girl actually) seems to know a lot about radiation and it's extreme forms so I'll chek it with his as soon as I meet the requirements.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: subcor on January 16, 2012, 05:43:57 pm
Hmm Rad Resistance perk might be with the Mantis at the NCR train station. Guy (girl actually) seems to know a lot about radiation and it's extreme forms so I'll chek it with his as soon as I meet the requirements.

No, it wasn't there, but I managed to find it in the Gecko Power Plant:
(http://img14.imagevenue.com/loc13/th_267286113_screen_16_01_2012_17_34_29_122_13lo.jpg) (http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=267286113_screen_16_01_2012_17_34_29_122_13lo.jpg)
     
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: runboy93 on January 16, 2012, 05:49:49 pm
And what we have left.. Explorer :/
Damned.. where is that..
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: subcor on January 16, 2012, 06:07:34 pm
And what we have left.. Explorer :/
Damned.. where is that..

What about Stealth Girl?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on January 16, 2012, 08:10:07 pm
Me being stupid idiot.  :-[
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on January 16, 2012, 08:57:06 pm
Faster healing?

.... maybe you should check my first updated post again. it was there when you posted this just dont think you actually looked at it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 16, 2012, 09:00:05 pm
Explorer is now a mystery..:D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on January 16, 2012, 09:02:29 pm
I suggest to add description to each perk by 6pt font and missed perks to list with red or green glow.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on January 16, 2012, 09:36:06 pm
if people want description of perk they can look it up them selfs. i added a link on where to find it. no need for people to be lazy all the time.
if i add perks that are missing, people will just be that wtf you have it there why is there no location to find it durrrr hurrr.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 16, 2012, 10:00:01 pm
I still have not been able to get scout from stark.
6 6 8 10 6 4 5
lvl 9 154 ODM
already have ranger
there any other reqs beyond ODM?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on January 16, 2012, 10:06:25 pm
well no one told me where scout is yet so it might not be stark.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: runboy93 on January 17, 2012, 06:51:26 am
In VC where you get all quest that woman talked something about scout (Yes scout SF, but also something else..)
But I missed that dialog and she never mentioned that again :/ shame
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: PK on January 17, 2012, 09:52:22 am
She sed to scout San Francisco, you should go to sf and and visit interesting places. After that report back. This line of misions does not give any perks
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: runboy93 on January 17, 2012, 11:19:22 am
You just need to think where you could get it.. If you played old Fallouts then just remember NPCs.. and keep reading Fallout history.

Stealth Girl = Hmm.. I got feeling about Children of the Cathedrals

Edit: Wait.. Enclave isn't place... NAVARRO ;D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 17, 2012, 11:20:49 am
Explorer is not at the Enclave. :>
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Doctor Sepp on January 17, 2012, 10:36:51 pm
I'm pretty sure you have to discover some hidden location like train stations, some toxic caves, sierra army depot, maybe a private mine.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: supfinal on January 18, 2012, 12:09:02 am
Faster Healing
    * Ranks: 1
    * Generic requirements: Intelligence at least 6, Doctor at least 75
    * Generic effects: Healing Rate increased by 5
    * With this Perk, you get a +5 bonus to your Healing Rate. This is in addition to your normal healing rate, thus you heal faster.


I got 1charisma 6 int 75 Doc, went to SF, try to talk to Dr.Fung : "I'm asking you politely to leave my home"
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: T-888 on January 18, 2012, 12:11:06 am
I got 1charisma 6 int 75 Doc, went to SF, try to talk to Dr.Fung : "I'm asking you politely to leave my home"

The answer is mentats.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: pletser09 on January 18, 2012, 10:43:38 am
Expoler in raiders? maybe..
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: runboy93 on January 18, 2012, 10:47:18 am
Expoler in raiders? maybe..
It can be almost everywhere :/
Maybe isn't just enough.. need to check it out and report (Or keep info by yourself wink)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Dantiko on January 18, 2012, 01:14:49 pm
Explorer, this perk, why can't anyone find it, maybe after a month or so...Or we could ask developers for it, I can bet a donation would make them change their minds and give us the location of Explorer  :o
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Surf on January 18, 2012, 01:21:25 pm
Some guys already found it, so keep "exploring". :)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Kharaam on January 18, 2012, 03:46:31 pm
uncovering whole map? visiting every location? Is one of these an answer?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 18, 2012, 04:01:52 pm
This is not solution. I explored now full world map and I didnt get explorer.

Where's Mickey in BH?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Redivivus on January 18, 2012, 06:42:18 pm
Where's Mickey in BH?

Midget near well. Main entrance.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 18, 2012, 06:46:53 pm
Unblacking all zones on the worldmap is not the solution.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: runboy93 on January 18, 2012, 07:51:58 pm
Scoutbook.. useless item ;)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: PK on January 18, 2012, 08:07:54 pm
Scoutbook.. useless item ;)

well i needed it for one quest so I guess it's not useless 
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rozi on January 20, 2012, 06:29:34 pm
I made a mistake. Thief perks are in hubs oldtown not in warehouse. Im sorry.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Al Capwn on January 21, 2012, 09:24:18 am
Explorer is obtained from Mantis, the ghoul in ncr trainstation.

This guy(https://i.imgur.com/b6Yh3.jpg)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: djmadmax on January 21, 2012, 02:47:56 pm
Do I need to do some kind of quest to get explorer?? I have 150 ourdoorsman but Mantis wont talk about that perk  :-\
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: mojuk on January 21, 2012, 03:39:45 pm
Same here, I already talked to this ghoul in the past, maybe it has something to do with it?
In some time I was at ncr train station i saw few chars that succed to take it and few that fail, so there must be some issue with it. I tried all possible dialog options few times, I even left location and came back with caps, still nothing.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eclair on January 21, 2012, 06:40:41 pm
I can't even speak with him any more, because I took his geiger counter by mistake.
Dear Developers, could you please review it?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 21, 2012, 06:49:58 pm
No bug in there.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 21, 2012, 07:17:39 pm
what do i need for explorer perk? caps or WTF?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Nobody on January 21, 2012, 08:35:09 pm
So I guess that the explorer is only for those with 120 points in repair.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Fedorova on January 21, 2012, 08:36:48 pm
So I guess that the explorer is only for those with 120 points in repair.
Is this true?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 21, 2012, 08:41:31 pm
Not true. You need 150 Outdoorsman.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: JovankaB on January 21, 2012, 08:45:45 pm
I have 150 outdoors and couldn't take it from ghoul on NCR station.
Maybe you need to talk to some other NPCs too or there is some CH requirement.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Tomowolf on January 21, 2012, 08:45:59 pm
Not true. You need 150 Outdoorsman.
Got repair at 170% and outdoors 176% - still cannot get that perk.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eclair on January 21, 2012, 08:47:22 pm
Lexx, how can I take Explorer after Geiger quest if ghoul doesn't want to talk with me?
p.s. 150 outdoorsman
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Mabus on January 21, 2012, 08:56:53 pm
Not true. You need 150 Outdoorsman.
i have 176. and not have explorer =\
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 21, 2012, 09:10:08 pm
i have 176. and not have explorer =\

Me too
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Fedorova on January 21, 2012, 09:31:23 pm
Not true. You need 150 Outdoorsman.

I have 176 and cannot get it,
do I need a quest?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 21, 2012, 10:32:54 pm
Guys. Just having the skill requirements isn't enough. I told that already.

@Geiger counter: That's not a real quest, just a small xp bonus for repair-dudes.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 21, 2012, 10:55:23 pm
Guys. Just having the skill requirements isn't enough. I told that already.

@Geiger counter: That's not a real quest, just a small xp bonus for repair-dudes.

Well, Lisac wrote :

"Explorer
Ranks: 1
Generic requirements: Outdoorsman at least 150
The mark of the Explorer is to search out new and interesting locations. With this Perk, you ignore speed penalties for terrain on the world map."

Is this not true?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 21, 2012, 11:04:17 pm
"Generic requirements: "

This doesn't mean "All requirements."
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eclair on January 21, 2012, 11:05:55 pm
Ok, are you trying to say that after "special" requirement ghoul will speak again?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Tomowolf on January 21, 2012, 11:24:51 pm
"Generic requirements: "

This doesn't mean "All requirements."
Dang you love playing with us, testers :>.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: T-888 on January 21, 2012, 11:27:34 pm
"Generic requirements: "

This doesn't mean "All requirements."

This is SO good , i'm glad you didn't spoil us the fun making alts and guessing special requirements. Really ?

As far as i know all other " generic requirements " were precisely described or this is some exception or just a bug ?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: jossi on January 21, 2012, 11:43:54 pm
"Generic requirements: "

This doesn't mean "All requirements."

fuck yeah
The Maxwell's equations are simpler...:D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 22, 2012, 12:52:42 am
does it still require lvl 10, or has that been corrected?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 22, 2012, 01:03:14 am
Level 10 requirement is gone. But you don't need to make alts for it. In fact, if you make alts, you probably won't find it out any faster... more like, slower.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Fedorova on January 22, 2012, 02:14:33 am
Does someone know what quest we need in order to unlock explorer?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Swinglinered on January 22, 2012, 08:50:14 am
After the initial conversation (running through all options), re-initiate conversation.

I saw an option then, which was "You seem to come around here a lot" or something like that.

Then these happen:
(https://i.imgur.com/2bKvS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pGUbS.jpg)


I have 125 Speech/CHA 10, Good Natured, MagPers... don't know if that helped.

I wonder if age is read in as a variable. Monocle is a bit old.

Was wearing leather jacket.

Had all the Outdoors Perks, stepped on almost every grid square on WM- there might have been a few corner peices bt the ocean that are really tiny that I missed, also entered every named area except Glow and Raiders.
Been to all rail stations.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: EnclaveSniper on January 22, 2012, 08:54:09 am
Age can be used as a variable, but I doubt it is for this.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Swinglinered on January 22, 2012, 09:16:06 am
Age can be used as a variable, but I doubt it is for this.

So all I really know is that I have OD 150 and I got Explorer after selecting certain dialog.

I did so many other things that I can't isolate a "non-generic requirement".
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Geras on January 22, 2012, 10:59:12 am
I have just obtained the perk as stated above: talked to Mantis about everything, reinitiated the dialog and chosen the new dialogue line.

OD 150

age 55
PE 3
CH 3
EN 10
speech 15
snakeater
geckoskinning

didn't repair the geiger counter
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 22, 2012, 02:15:09 pm
...Had all the Outdoors Perks...
Do you know how you managed to obtain scout? Stark wont bring it up for me.

EDIT: Im a VC citizen, perhaps he doesn't give it to citizens?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Explorer on January 22, 2012, 02:35:33 pm
So all I really know is that I have OD 150 and I got Explorer after selecting certain dialog.

I did so many other things that I can't isolate a "non-generic requirement".

so i need to finish some questh to get line with this walking dead...can you write what did u do to get that line...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 22, 2012, 02:53:02 pm
No quest is involved in that. Or... well... let's say, some quests are passive involved in it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 22, 2012, 02:57:45 pm
Ok, isolated. Explorer needs not only the ODM requirement, but you must also visit every train station (perhaps by train). Mantis wouldn't give me the option until after I rode from boneyard to sanfran (which I never bothered to ride the train to before), and that was the only real change I made. It's conceivable that he may just count total train trips, or even total conversations with him, but visiting every station ought to do it. Makes sense, since he's so fixated on trains.

That said, isn't the whole point of a high ODM char to avoid depending on trains and such? no wonder it took so long to puzzle out.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eclair on January 22, 2012, 03:43:00 pm
No quest is involved in that
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4908/explorerqc.jpg)
All stations have been explored
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 22, 2012, 04:23:15 pm
Well, if you took the geiger counter / pissed Mantis off, you are out. Additionally, this is still not a quest.

Visiting all train stations isn't enough.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eclair on January 22, 2012, 04:59:12 pm
Excuse me, but this is not very kind... When you are choosing wrong dialogue with Tamira at the gas station,  you are still able to get "Ranger" and there are lot of other examples... Players are spending time to gain reputation, study blueprints, etc and after receiving all perks, except the last - nobody will be happy...

I hope you will review the quest,
Thank you.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Mabus on January 22, 2012, 05:04:06 pm
Need buy 10 tickets???  :-[
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: djmadmax on January 22, 2012, 05:55:03 pm
I have traveled from VC to SF and back - still no dialog  :-\
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: None on January 22, 2012, 06:32:27 pm
If you want an explorer perk, you have to become one.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: fylhtqrby on January 22, 2012, 06:34:55 pm
I guess Mantis would like one to encounter some mobs that he mentioned in dialog. Probably after you had met this kind of mobs perk becomes available. Just supposition.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: JovankaB on January 22, 2012, 06:44:56 pm
I think it requires you to do some/particular quests.
There was 10 level requirement before, which could mean tanker was one of these quests.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on January 22, 2012, 06:55:20 pm
This also can be quest from necropolis. great one and very interesting quest ;)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Wichura on January 22, 2012, 07:10:27 pm
Fixed Geiger's counter, visited all stations (started quest @ VC, done Railway Gang quest), 3 CH, 176 OD, got Explorer.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Dzej on January 22, 2012, 07:51:59 pm
Fixed Geiger's counter, visited all stations (started quest @ VC, done Railway Gang quest), 3 CH, 176 OD, got Explorer.

I for one had the same issue. Couldnt get the dialog for the explorer perk even after visiting all stations. After that i explored almost the whole map (i left 2 squares black on the continent) and visited every possible location while passing by. I cant tell exactly if it was the map exploration or the location visits or both together, but i got the perk after that.

Btw: I didnt fix the geigers counter.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 22, 2012, 08:03:51 pm
I did not fix the geiger counter, have explored only a bit more than half the map, have visited every station, completed a mans quest, almost completed doc andrews quest, was at the time a VC citizen, had 10 charisma, but got the perk only after finally visiting the sanfran station.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Fedorova on January 22, 2012, 08:36:18 pm
I got the explorer perk at last, apparently you have to explore the world map, after I got almost the whole map, I went to speak with Mantis and he gave me the new option.

I didn't do any quests, but I did visit every train station.

BTW; how to get Rad Resistance and Scout?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: merlin on January 23, 2012, 05:50:42 am
I just got it. You need to hit every location on the map.

Maybe someone would be will to experiment with hitting every main location and reporting back to this thread. Maybe you need to hit a majority of the locations or a percentage of the map. I don't know but I visited all of them including the train stations. The train stations alone do not change the dialogue.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Jlekc on January 23, 2012, 06:25:56 am
I just got it. You need to hit every location on the map.

Maybe someone would be will to experiment with hitting every main location and reporting back to this thread. Maybe you need to hit a majority of the locations or a percentage of the map. I don't know but I visited all of them including the train stations. The train stations alone do not change the dialogue.

I've achieved Explorer perk by visiting all train stations and wearing a Leather Jacket.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on January 23, 2012, 12:51:36 pm
I hadn't been to redding, raiders, or glow by the time I got explorer
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on January 23, 2012, 06:55:25 pm
Maybe someone can make good manual for explorer, with creenshots, like jovanka's reply about ranger perk.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: JovankaB on January 23, 2012, 07:03:25 pm
I don't think anyone knows exactly what are the requirements.
Min. 150% outdoors makes it a bit hard to test. Even with special build you need at least level 4.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on January 23, 2012, 07:09:36 pm
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: djmadmax on January 23, 2012, 10:10:20 pm
Explorer confirmed ;) - you need to "see" all the locations on map. I didn't have Glow, after visiting the dialog finally showed up  :)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Perteks on January 23, 2012, 10:28:27 pm
I don't have glow no navarro this is no needed for explorer perk
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Swinglinered on January 24, 2012, 06:00:06 am
Area counter among other things?

Not specific areas (except maybe some)?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on January 24, 2012, 11:09:33 am
Area counter among other things?

Not specific areas (except maybe some)?

I got like 1/3 map opened, all cities about navarro, got sierra from hermit, before i didnt visited glow and got dose of radiation i was not able to take perk and also i visited BoS and 1 location i write before. i just drive around navarro.
also i have like 9 compleed quests with vault city doc train station quest and delievery job from modoc and quest from hub armorer to ask gun runners for discount.
Also i suggest for you all make all quests because they all are awesome

(http://thumbnails49.imagebam.com/17140/61e4df171395421.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/61e4df171395421) (http://thumbnails52.imagebam.com/17140/2d7e42171395423.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/2d7e42171395423) (http://thumbnails34.imagebam.com/17140/38dcd3171395425.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/38dcd3171395425)

it s all stats i have and obtained explorer.





also, where to find scout perk ?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: IndiGRay on January 24, 2012, 06:34:17 pm
Scout perk gives you sgt. Stark in Vault city corrections center.

It seems to perk scout you should only be approached by the basic requirement. I didnt do any quests

I did not do quests with railroad, raiders, and geiger counter. Just explored all railroad stations. Had all map explorer, extension - is modoc. Ghoul didnt want to give me the explorer. I explored modoc, and he gived me Explorer.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Fedorova on January 24, 2012, 08:05:20 pm
Do you need to do some quest to get scout perk? Because he isn't handing it to me.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Who Killed Bambi on January 24, 2012, 09:53:31 pm
How to get negotiator perk ? I have any idea where this dialog at Gas Station and T-Ray dont want to give it, maybe some other npc ? Any suggestion ?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: djmadmax on January 25, 2012, 10:44:13 am
Do you need to do some quest to get scout perk? Because he isn't handing it to me.
Same here  :-\
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Ulfarr on January 25, 2012, 05:15:25 pm
for explorer perk you just need to have visible all trains stations on the map...

what is needed for scout??? i have it on one character but forgot what i have done with it :D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Daddy Cool on January 25, 2012, 08:59:35 pm
Quote
Ranger

Tamira in front of Gordon's Gas Station(see jovanka's post on page 2 for proper dialoge choices)

Two things:

1) I can't find Tamira, even though im joggin in Gecko for an hour. Is she hidden somewhere? >.>

2) Jovanka's img is 404'd. Anybody has a copy? :<

Help me guys!
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Klaatu on January 25, 2012, 09:48:39 pm
Tamira is not in Gecko. She is in Gordon's gas station, which is located in sector 14:18 on the worldmap. I don't remember the exact dialogue though. Just don't act like a pussy or insult her. If you get it wrong, she will attack you, but don't worry about it. You can come back and try again if you die.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on January 26, 2012, 10:41:24 am
for explorer perk you just need to have visible all trains stations on the map...

You have to visit all train stations + all big green circles on the worldmap.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Geras on January 26, 2012, 11:08:05 am
Two things:

1) I can't find Tamira, even though im joggin in Gecko for an hour. Is she hidden somewhere? >.>

2) Jovanka's img is 404'd. Anybody has a copy? :<

Help me guys!

Tamira is in the Gordon's Gas Station more or less on to the east of New Reno. The dialogue key is 1-1-1-1-2-1-2 if i remember correctly.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Daddy Cool on January 26, 2012, 11:36:05 am
Thanks guys, you really helped me a lot. ^^

Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: sowol on January 26, 2012, 09:17:41 pm
Help with SCOUT perk, please.
I am a citizen of vc, got 175 od- like it should, but i dont have any dialog option with that guard to get scout. Any sugestions???
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eclair on January 26, 2012, 09:36:16 pm
Yes, resign.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Fedorova on January 27, 2012, 12:19:22 am
Yes, resign.

Resign? How so?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eclair on January 27, 2012, 06:50:45 am
Leaving

To leave Vault City faction you have to go in the third building on the left in the inner city, with a Vault City emblem on it and two minigun guards near the door. Once you are in it, go to one of its computers, and choose Miscellaneous > Resign.
The guards will most probably shoot you right after this, so be sure you have nothing to loose.

2238 wiki
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Shonsu on January 27, 2012, 02:49:58 pm
Yes, resign.
Uhh I'm not a citizen and he's not saying anything to me either so that's not it.

EDIT:

I take it back.  I just got it.  You ahve to ask him about patrols.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Fedorova on January 27, 2012, 05:51:14 pm
Anyone got the second pathfinder?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Wichura on January 27, 2012, 05:55:03 pm
There is only one pathfinder.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Slardevos on January 27, 2012, 09:57:08 pm
Soryy but can you help me with Rad resistance perk? Maybe some advice or somethink?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Geras on January 27, 2012, 10:05:50 pm
Page 7 of this fine thread, Lagmaster elaborate post with spoilers, mate.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Slardevos on January 27, 2012, 10:08:20 pm
Thanks :)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: sowol on January 28, 2012, 09:14:21 am
Again about a Scout perk: got 175 od, resign of vc faction dont give a difrience, to have a dialogue option, any solution?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Parano on January 29, 2012, 04:24:18 am
Help with SCOUT perk, please.
I am a citizen of vc, got 175 od- like it should, but i dont have any dialog option with that guard to get scout. Any sugestions???

I have the same problem with this perk.

150% outdoorsman, VC citizen.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on January 30, 2012, 07:13:34 pm
Page 7 of this fine thread, Lagmaster elaborate post with spoilers, mate.
Finaly, someone saw my work

but to lazy to update it, so mods, can you please update it for me?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on January 31, 2012, 12:19:03 pm
Don't know if anyone else has noticed but for a few of the support perks there is a hidden Charisma requirement before you can talk to the required people.

I can't access with 1 charisma - Faster healing,
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Spotty on January 31, 2012, 12:27:44 pm
2 perks I can't access with 1 charisma - Dead man walking, Faster healing,

I got dead man walking on a 1 cha guy... need 50 doc as well thou.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on January 31, 2012, 01:46:48 pm
My mistake already got Dead man walking, can't get faster healing.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on January 31, 2012, 04:31:51 pm
if anyone can please give me a clear definition of where to find scout,explorer and any other ones i have not seen or missed please post so i can update.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on February 01, 2012, 12:57:37 pm
If you resign from VC you won't get back into VC for a long time, VC vilified - karma -2000

Also just got explorer perk.
Explored (entered); Klamath, The Den, Redding, New Reno, Modoc, VC, Gecko, NCR, Junktown, The Hub, Gun runners, The Libary, San Fran, All Train Stations.

Support Perks; Swift Learner, Educated, Awareness, Cautious nature.
Perk; Healer.
Extra; Boneyard Guard
Quests; Wasteland Band, VC medical investigation, A Mans job, Buy cigs for Buster.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: subcor on February 01, 2012, 01:18:04 pm
if anyone can please give me a clear definition of where to find scout,explorer and any other ones i have not seen or missed please post so i can update.
Rad Resistance: glowing ghoul in gecko power plant.
http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=267286113_screen_16_01_2012_17_34_29_122_13lo.jpg
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Django-Y on February 02, 2012, 11:45:40 am
I suspect the girl Stealht perk in the industrial park, which unfortunately does not have skills based zubekommen.
Die him to conjecture that the industrial park once a day appears on my map and then disappears again, enter the first there was nothing in the second foot suddenly appeared 4 NPC's out of nowhere and opened a window to diealog, but I could only stop the dialogue.

 Sorry for my english translator
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Pryszczu666 on February 04, 2012, 10:04:57 am
Explorer perk - Travel trough the wasteland and visit every city also the glow 150% Outdoorsman is needed too, just got the perk
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on February 04, 2012, 11:35:27 am
Explorer perk - Travel trough the wasteland and visit every city also the glow 150% Outdoorsman is needed too, just got the perk
You don't need to visit the Glow or Necropolis.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Nobody on February 04, 2012, 11:44:23 am
For explorer, Vault 15 is a must. Yesterday after i visit all cities and train station and still not be able to get it i visit Vault 15 and finally was able to recive it.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on February 04, 2012, 12:15:03 pm
You don't need to go to V15 at all, read my earlier post.
Also just got explorer perk.
Explored (entered); Klamath, The Den, Redding, New Reno, Modoc, VC, Gecko, NCR, Junktown, The Hub, Gun runners, The Libary, San Fran, All Train Stations.
I'm guessing you have to go to a certain amount of places to get explorer perk. Most likely there is no set locations required just an amount of locations with a maximum of 17 locations which might have to include the train stations.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lexx on February 04, 2012, 12:35:29 pm
There is a set of location requirement. Locations like Navarro and Glow are not in the list, because these are possible places of annoyances (Navarro - Enclave patrols, Glow - radiation), etc.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: DocAN. on February 04, 2012, 12:50:13 pm
So the same should be with Miss Kitty and 10EN/10AG/10CH check.
if you have 10EN You need to visit Glow to get speach based perks, CH and AG can be lowered by drugs.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Nobody on February 04, 2012, 01:29:45 pm
There is no 10CH check.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: DocAN. on February 04, 2012, 01:57:38 pm
problem is with EN check
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: JovankaB on February 04, 2012, 02:08:27 pm
It's just a small quest, you can get the money and xp another way. It's not the same as perk.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: DocAN. on February 04, 2012, 03:11:39 pm
Sex Appeal, Magnetic Personality in other way? Give me the light.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Redbull on February 04, 2012, 07:25:49 pm
So what about Faster Healing perk? does anybody know were I can get it?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: JovankaB on February 04, 2012, 07:50:50 pm
Sex Appeal, Magnetic Personality in other way? Give me the light.

Oh, she gives perks now? Sorry, I didn't realize...  :P

BTW I never liked the 10 AG/EN restriction in this quest...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on February 04, 2012, 08:17:33 pm
So what about Faster Healing perk? does anybody know were I can get it?
San Francisco.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: nmex23 on February 17, 2012, 04:48:36 pm
This may be in a post already if it is I apologize. After wipe there is no need for going above profession lvl 1 on armorer and demolition expert? According to Wiki lvl 2 does not let you craft anything more than you could already craft on lvl 1. Is this correct and if so whats the point of even having lvl 2 in those professions. Again i may be wrong im just going of WIKI and wanted an answer before i got new professions.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Crazy on February 17, 2012, 04:53:52 pm
Level 2 allow blueprints to appear in fixboy.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: nmex23 on February 17, 2012, 05:12:12 pm
Level 2 allow blueprints to appear in fixboy.

So then the Wiki is wrong? can anyone send me a link of what blueprints are available for lvl 2 demo and armorer
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Lon Chaney on February 17, 2012, 06:32:59 pm
So then the Wiki is wrong? can anyone send me a link of what blueprints are available for lvl 2 demo and armorer
Search wiki for "blueprints."   But FYI, it's just anything that you used to be able to craft on those profs pre-wipe, that don't show in fixboy immediately when taking both prof levels.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: nmex23 on February 17, 2012, 07:10:59 pm
Search wiki for "blueprints."   But FYI, it's just anything that you used to be able to craft on those profs pre-wipe, that don't show in fixboy immediately when taking both prof levels.

So can blueprints only be found in chest in random encounters?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Matej on February 21, 2012, 03:22:13 am
Are there minimum Charisma requirements to talk to the support perk givers, just like when interacting with other NPC's and quest givers?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on February 21, 2012, 03:23:37 am
Are there minimum Charisma requirements to talk to the support perk givers, as with quest givers?
some have charisama requirements. you can talk to all of them with 3 ch.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Matej on February 21, 2012, 03:24:36 am
Great to know. Thank you.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Gob on March 18, 2012, 05:19:54 pm
Where is the picture with the dialog choices for Ranger perk that JovankaB made? Or someone could please tell me what dialogs to choose.

Ok so sequence is 1 1 2 1 2 and when it ask you to spit choose spit.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Roachor on March 25, 2012, 06:54:51 pm
can I get a confirmation that you can't get scout unless you resign vc?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on March 25, 2012, 08:01:51 pm
can I get a confirmation that you can't get scout unless you resign vc?
whole point of beta is to test. so why don't you test it yourself?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Firebirds on March 25, 2012, 08:24:24 pm
can I get a confirmation that you can't get scout unless you resign vc?
I can guarantee that if you resign VC you will not get scout for long time as you will get full of holes from turrets at entrance.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Roachor on March 25, 2012, 09:38:49 pm
whole point of beta is to test. so why don't you test it yourself?

to test if somethings works you have to know how it's supposed to work, why do you think games have console commands? If you don't know the requirements how can you tell if its bugged? If the game was done and we were playing sure maintain some secrecy, it'll only last as long as it takes one person to post about it. But during a work in progress it's just stupid. Btw I am testing it myself, i meet all the know requirements and I can't get the perk so I'm finding out if vc faction actually disqualifies you for it since THAT would be a bug. Next time try thinking before you make inane comments, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - A L
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: falloutdude on March 25, 2012, 09:45:15 pm
to test if somethings works you have to know how it's supposed to work, why do you think games have console commands? If you don't know the requirements how can you tell if its bugged? If the game was done and we were playing sure maintain some secrecy, it'll only last as long as it takes one person to post about it. But during a work in progress it's just stupid. Btw I am testing it myself, i meet all the know requirements and I can't get the perk so I'm finding out if vc faction actually disqualifies you for it since THAT would be a bug. Next time try thinking before you make inane comments, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - A L

the whole point of my post was people allways ask theses questions but never do anything before to see if it works themself. people expect others to do it other then just test themselfs. but anyway lets not make this a troll fest. testing things to find out the answer is part of beta you dont need to know how its supposed to be your just supposed to do it to get differnt answers and differnt ideas so how it could be better or if you think its wrong in that test put it in bugs.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: columdrum on March 25, 2012, 09:46:25 pm
wrong post, delete
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Roachor on March 25, 2012, 10:47:02 pm
the whole point of my post was people allways ask theses questions but never do anything before to see if it works themself. people expect others to do it other then just test themselfs. but anyway lets not make this a troll fest. testing things to find out the answer is part of beta you dont need to know how its supposed to be your just supposed to do it to get differnt answers and differnt ideas so how it could be better or if you think its wrong in that test put it in bugs.

Testing is a group effort based on accumulated information, you have no idea what you are talking about. Moving on, if anyone who has the perk can confirm you can't be VC that would be great because I'm based out of there and don't want to become hated for no reason.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Rosmy Sundr on March 26, 2012, 02:16:29 am
I was VC and couldn't get scout. Then I quit, waited for rep to regain, and tried again; still no scout. By that point I had explored the entire traversable map anyways in an attempt to gain explorer, and felt no need to try after scout. I suspect ever join VC permanently kills that dialogue tree.

Also, your quote is probably not from Lincoln; its from proverbs.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Dark Angel on March 31, 2012, 08:08:56 am
give me sceen with talking solution for gunrunners.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Roachor on April 03, 2012, 11:30:30 pm
Who in SF gives faster healing perk?
nm found the doc, needed mentats
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on April 03, 2012, 11:31:36 pm
The doc in main zone
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on July 01, 2012, 05:30:58 pm
Where is the downstairs library? I can't seem to find it at all...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Roachor on July 01, 2012, 05:54:15 pm
Where is the downstairs library? I can't seem to find it at all...

Library is northwest of gunrunners, stairs going down in top left.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on July 02, 2012, 02:02:07 am
Thanks.  :D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on July 06, 2012, 02:14:37 am
Anyone know where the support perk Scout is?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 06, 2012, 02:21:35 am
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Scout

Wiki says someone at Vault City
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on July 06, 2012, 03:30:03 am
i am reposting this from page 7, the autor of the topic can use it on first page
Support Perks

Awareness


Faster Healing

Rad Resistance

Educated


Snakeater

Mr. Fixit

Master Thief

Speaker

Pickpocket

Explorer

Pathfinder

Scout

Ranger
Location: Tamira in Gordon Gas Station


Swift Learner

Profession: Armorer

Profession: Gunsmith (Small Guns)

Profession: Gunsmith (Big Guns)

Profession: Energy Expert

Profession: Demolition Expert

Profession: Doctor

Cautious Nature

Demolition Expert

Harmless

Light Step

Magnetic Personality

Negotiator

Thief

Gecko Skinning

Sex Appeal

Stealth Girl

Best of a Bad Lot

Dismantler

Treasure Hunter

Dead Man Walking



if you can please post pics with solutions and NPCs i will add them in this quote
also i will try to keep it up to date[/list][/list][/list]
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Mike Crosser on July 06, 2012, 09:27:30 am
You don't need anything on 100% to get awareness you only need 6 perception.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Spotty on July 06, 2012, 10:59:32 am
You don't need anything on 100% to get awareness you only need 6 perception.

But if you only got 1 perception, you can still get it with 100 unarmed or melee skill.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on July 06, 2012, 03:11:43 pm
You don't need anything on 100% to get awareness you only need 6 perception.
i typed "Or" not "and"
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on July 06, 2012, 08:11:34 pm
I tried talking to Sargent Stark at the VC Corrections Center, but he won't give me the scout support perk, I have more than 150% OD... what do I do?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: LagMaster on July 06, 2012, 11:21:21 pm
i think he gives you a quest

probably to have Gecko and the suroundings visited(all 9 scuares)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on July 07, 2012, 02:53:54 am
I already did that, not the quest but finding the 9 squares before he gave me the quest, he told me to go see if there are any jobs in the VC headquarters... he didn't tell me about the job...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on July 19, 2012, 04:06:16 am
Anyone know where Loxley is located in Old Town? Not that I am a thief, but my teammates don't know where he is, I need help finding him...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Eternauta on July 19, 2012, 04:31:19 am
Anyone know where Loxley is located in Old Town? Not that I am a thief, but my teammates don't know where he is, I need help finding him...

What the bloodly, bloodly, bloodly hell are you doing not playing Fallout 1!? I bet you haven't played Fallout 1, otherwise you'd remember Loxley. In FO1 he was in Hub Old Town, under one of the buildings. The stairs leading to his hideout where near the center of the Old Town map.

Edit: a little link to educate yourself!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUV8QJFHcM
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on July 19, 2012, 04:46:39 am
Look buddy I haven't played Fallout 1 for 5 yrs. xD

(I might play it now since you influence me :P)
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Roachor on July 19, 2012, 04:47:22 am
I tried talking to Sargent Stark at the VC Corrections Center, but he won't give me the scout support perk, I have more than 150% OD... what do I do?

scout is broken, perk is impossible to get
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on July 19, 2012, 04:50:00 am
Yeah I stopped going after that support perk :P

But thanks for the tip, might come in handy :D
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on July 19, 2012, 05:02:53 am
I still don't see Loxley in the the basement, what is he behind when hiding?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: MalcomGraves on July 19, 2012, 08:53:30 am
I found in Hub a guy that might have the thief support perks.
He is where the drug dealer used to be, never figured out how to get an invitation.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Alexandrite on July 19, 2012, 02:59:39 pm
You mean the NPC Shadow? The shadowy character in the building right across from exit grid to The Hub Market? I've talked to him but he said I need a reason why I am there with him...
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on July 19, 2012, 08:49:42 pm
scout is broken, perk is impossible to get
I got that perk a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: X_Treme on July 19, 2012, 11:50:03 pm
are you sure? i have 180 of odm, and i cant get it
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: ThePhoenix77 on July 20, 2012, 07:23:21 am
are you sure? i have 180 of odm, and i cant get it


Well 3 days ago I didn't have it yet I have it now.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Gob on August 15, 2012, 10:23:36 am
I have 200 OD + Explorer,Pathfinder and Cautious nature. I will go and try get it. I will post back after.

EDIT: I managed to get the perk with instantly with no problem. Here is my characters page. You check it out http://fonline2238.net/vtdb/char.php?31954   .
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Jokumatti on March 21, 2013, 11:12:12 pm
I went to Rad Resist Ghoul that was shown in picture. he didn't talk anything else than generic ghoul rubbish. i had my int risen to desired lvl by mentats.. and char was 3 by that. also doctor skill is 100. So how i can get then the Rad Resistance perk? does Snake Eater affect on it?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: BenKain on March 21, 2013, 11:41:24 pm
No, support perks are chosen by base value, using drugs to raise your SPECIAL does not work to take support perks.
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: Jokumatti on March 22, 2013, 12:13:10 am
so if i would take perk that increases my int... i would get it if it rises enough?
Title: Re: [Spoilers] Support perks locations
Post by: BenKain on March 22, 2013, 12:14:24 am
Afaik, but you may be better off with planning your build differently. Special Gain perks are a waste imo.