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Title: EW perks
Post by: greece crisis on December 18, 2011, 05:12:56 am
Can someone tell me why ew doesnt have any brd perks? i know brd is for mormal damage but we can make brd/ew just for ew. dev increased range and damage of gatling and i dont know why i cant have any brd when i want to be ew bruster?
same weapon handling req - 100 bg/sg...and why not ew?
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: Crazy on December 18, 2011, 06:54:26 am
i know brd is for mormal damage

No.
dev increased range

No.
and damage of gatling

Yes, a lot!
and i dont know why i cant have any brd when i want to be ew bruster?

That's a good question. Maybe cause it would be OP, I dunno. Spray and pray isn't available either.
same weapon handling req - 100 bg/sg...and why not ew?
Maybe like BRoF and crit perks, just a mistake and gonna be fix.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: Solar on December 18, 2011, 10:43:53 am
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like BRoF and crit perks, just a mistake and gonna be fix.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: greece crisis on December 19, 2011, 11:07:09 pm
i saw. gatling has now range - 40 ;] and damage 49-99 so with perk spray and prey and  25%ctir this weapon can finally kick some ass...
for sure it is most advance and hard to get weapon in game (expcept gauss pistol) and most expensive in use so good work solar.
but now when you increase sg range and lsw/m60 is only tb weapon mini with range 30hex is little ussles. i had to run +5hex to shoot someone. increase it to range 35...
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: Crazy on December 19, 2011, 11:58:14 pm
i saw. gatling has now range - 40 ;]

Always had 40 range.

and damage 49-99 so with perk spray and prey and  25%ctir this weapon can finally kick some ass...

Well BRD is also a valid choice. But still kinda weak against metals.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: T-888 on December 20, 2011, 02:27:47 am
I tested gatling gun , it's either you are in CA/MA or it's insta one shot weapon , but it does acceptable damage on CA.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: greece crisis on December 21, 2011, 03:52:38 am
maby yes maby no. gatling crits is instant kill.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: gr1m055 on December 21, 2011, 05:18:18 am
I tested gatling gun , it's either you are in CA/MA or it's insta one shot weapon , but it does acceptable damage on CA.

I tested it also with a plasma crit build, crits with this thing is epic. I do not have better critical by the way.

http://imageshack.us/f/6/gatcrit.jpg/

Its kind of hard to see but, we were LOLing because the Gatling laser did a 726 critical at almost max range. 2imon was wearing brotherhood armor also. Also this build does not have any perks that does -crit mod to armor just helmets.

Maybe tone down the Gatling laser crits a little and make a spray n pray available with EW for gattling laser builds. But don't make it this powerful with the crits lol.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: RavenousRat on December 21, 2011, 01:03:10 pm
A bit off topic.
http://imageshack.us/f/6/gatcrit.jpg/
I see there's still a fence, not wall, can you throw items from Hinkley through it during combat in city-arena, so your friends will pick it up? Or item throwing isn't implemented yet?


Edit:
What does that have to do with energy weapons and perks?
A bit off topic.
Your question is already answered and you even quoted it.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: gr1m055 on December 21, 2011, 03:21:13 pm
A bit off topic.I see there's still a fence, not wall, can you throw items from Hinkley through it during combat in city-arena, so your friends will pick it up? Or item throwing isn't implemented yet?

What does that have to do with energy weapons and perks?
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: Crazy on December 22, 2011, 06:53:57 pm
Its kind of hard to see but, we were LOLing because the Gatling laser did a 726 critical at almost max range. 2imon was wearing brotherhood armor also. Also this build does not have any perks that does -crit mod to armor just helmets.

Maybe tone down the Gatling laser crits a little and make a spray n pray available with EW for gattling laser builds. But don't make it this powerful with the crits lol.
Nothing surprising, a bypass crit with so much base damage is deadly. But bypasses are rare without aiming, even with better crit.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: Solar on December 22, 2011, 08:14:59 pm
They should be pretty nice, the only way to get them should be prying them from the Enclave's cold dead hands ... once those encounters are beefed up a little :)
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: Crazy on December 22, 2011, 09:01:30 pm
once those encounters are beefed up a little :)
Oh right now they're already quite dangerous.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: greece crisis on December 24, 2011, 02:56:53 am
sure apa -crit % mod are 15-20%? +enclave has perk man of steel? ;] damn devs u make weapon mk3 almost imposible to loot...well i think now only way is killing them using radio and taxi until they are out of amo or hp...i think it will be funny ;]
and what about gauss pistols? i hard rumors that they wont be implemented in next sesion?
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: Elmehdi on December 24, 2011, 09:47:19 am
...well i think now only way is killing them using radio and taxi until they are out of amo or hp...

No way, not like that. I do really hope devs will make sure that enclave patrols have enough ammo  :).

Good to see that there will be a new weapon in use.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: RavenousRat on December 24, 2011, 10:36:53 am
sure apa -crit % mod are 15-20%? +enclave has perk man of steel? ;] damn devs u make weapon mk3 almost imposible to loot...well i think now only way is killing them using radio and taxi until they are out of amo or hp...i think it will be funny ;]
and what about gauss pistols? i hard rumors that they wont be implemented in next sesion?
Iron grip gives only 50% resistance to weapon drops with 10 EN, it's like stonewall vs knock outs, and no one likes stonewall  ;)
Balls Man of Steel will just make less failures in weapon drops, but it won't negate them.
So if Enclave don't have >10 EN (well, who knows) - get Finesse+max crit perks squad to have at least some chance to crit in the arms, give them mausers and just pwn enclave troopers in TB by shooting hands and picking their weapons up and then run away from enc, because you won't kill them, I think. Also if they're still stealable, then you can also steal from them in TB after you droped their weapon, this way you'll get weapon+all items from them without killing.
50% isn't immunity, it's just you'll need one more crippler on each crippler you usually use.
So, cripplers in BA/tesla with fastest weapon that can aim +some bluesuiters with steal skill, who picks weapon up and then steals ammo/items from their inventory after.
Or just plant damned dynamite! In TB, they won't do anything to you until it'll be their turn, I even robbed one player once in TB and ran to exit grid in my turn, it means you can safely come to him, set dynamite to lowest time possible, plant it and walk out, I think dynamite will explode on the next turn, and even if not, who cares if you die, if you have someone there who will loot.
Need imba tier3 weapon? They made enclave unkillable? Get cripplers or dynamite. Anyway, in worst case, you'll just jump in wearing bluesuit, with mauser/BB gun and just start shoot his arms, weapon-looters must have on 1-2 less sequence than cripplers, like cripplers kamikaze+10PE+may be sequence perks, looters the same but 9 PE, if enclave troopers will have 100500 sequence, then it doesn't matter anyway, main thing is for looters to have less sequence than cripplers.
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: avv on December 24, 2011, 10:48:54 am
Dynamite needs blueprint and takes a while to craft. Plus enclave has 700hp.

Here's 100% safe and very cheap way to get enclave weapons.
1. Make a sneaker with silent death, better crits and bonus move x2
2. Get a car or brahmin kart, drive it near navarro
3. Turn on TB
4. Keep making encounters with that car until you get enclave
5. Move behind the enclave in sneak mode, go as close to the grid as possible and shoot enclave in the arm
6. Leave the encounter, reload, resneak and enter again
7. Cripple all arms of the enclave by repeating 5 and 6
8. Once that's done, enter in sneak, go 4 hex away from some avenger enclave and shoot him in the arm in hopes to get weap drop. Now you can pick it up, stash it and return for more guns.
9. Once there's no more lootable guns, just get your car and make another enc.

Totally works http://clip2net.com/s/1qtFs
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: greece crisis on December 24, 2011, 04:00:40 pm
No way, not like that. I do really hope devs will make sure that enclave patrols have enough ammo  :).

Good to see that there will be a new weapon in use.

well we have thiefs dont we? ;]
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: DJ Bulva on December 25, 2011, 12:46:02 pm
I try this builder
http://www.nitue.net

And perk Bonus Rate of Fire ist included here, its a bug builder or isnt implemented in game?
(ew of course above 225 %, same pro on weapon handling)
Title: Re: EW perks
Post by: gr1m055 on December 25, 2011, 09:21:22 pm
The character planner was made with whats in beta currently, and it was kind of released too early. It was released before solar decided to do make EW requirements for some perks like BROF for example.