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As some of you may already have heard, the great spiritual predecessor of Fallout and the game that was sleeping in the Halls of Fame for two decades is going to get a sequel. Yes, it is official as of today: the Kickstarter for Wasteland 2 (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2) has opened its doors for anyone willing to pledge her/his support to it.
Funded through an innovative and flexible channel, opened for its community, based on the very principles of tabletop games, smelling like an old-skool brew - several members of the Rotators simply could not resist the opportunity to express their admiration and to wish all the best to a project like this one. We hope everyone sharing our expectations and feelings will take part in supporting Wasteland 2.
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316k at the moment of posting. 34 days to go.
The charisma and legacy of Brian Fargo.... impressive!
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"The godfather of Fallout" is big news! Thanks for the info, lisac. I heard B-man was planning to do this but also heard he was meeting some road blocks up to now. A lot of people will be glad he's pushing it through!
I was introduced to Fallout via Fallout 2 which will always be my fav comp game of all time. But i understand Wasteland is really the original, so Fallout 2 was more like Wasteland 3. Which makes 2238 like Wasteland 9 or something, and Wasteland 2 will really be like Wasteland 10 lol. Looking forward to it!
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I really like this idea of projects being financed by the community. I'm seriously thinking about pledging 50 or 100 bucks. (The 5k option looks great too, but can't afford that kind of money ;D)
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Coded up this little stats generator, just for fun.
(http://fonline2238.net/~ghosthack/wasteland2/stats.png)
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316k at the moment of posting. 34 days to go.
Looks like nothing cant stop it.... $558k and keep raising
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People who used to play rpg games like wasteland are now at working age and thus got some money to spend.
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I think when I'm back from work to fire the support button they'll reached their goal already :D
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Hell yea i wanna see this damn quote again in live
"For gamers by gamers !" :D
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Hell yea i wanna see this damn quote again in live
"For gamers by gamers !" :D
Do they have the rights to it?
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For Gamers. By Gamers.™ is a trademark of Razer™.
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"By Gamers, For Gamers." are trademarks of Interplay
But For Gamers. By gamers is Razer uh strange :D
Mah bad
Dunno about if they can use it but sentense will be fully used ;)
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Sounds great.
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This is why I do not like marketing trends and data analysis and all that bull shit. Everything is made to sell to a mass majority. I hate newer RPGs, why do we need every new RPG in first person/third person where things like stats don't mean anything. Everything is first person shooter gameplay any more.
Brian Fargo is a brilliant man, and I say good luck to him! I hope he gets enough money to release this game he has my support.
I never played wastelands, a little past my time but what happened to games like these where there was complex stat systems and such.
Bring back the golden era of RPGs! I miss games that had good writing and a good storylines, not the same voice over for every character repeating the same thing bumping into them. I've had enough of this arrow to the knee crap!
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Incredible good news.
Seems that wasteland resurrection would not be so harsh... ;D
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So "By Gamers. Buy Gamers." is still available? Cool lol.
I bet B-man will have 6M to work with, which hopefully will speed along their development of this project. Meanwhile those who declined him in the past are going to be having bad dreams.
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I would sell my kidney to found Wasteland 2 and Baldur's Gate 3 but more in BG 1 style, daaaaamn that game is soooo good...
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$558k and keep raising
$747,208 - 10 hours later... ::)
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
Michael Stackpole, Jason Anderson, Mark Morgan and Brian Fargo working on a new game?! looks like this is going to be the fallout 3 that should have been done years ago. I can't wait to see this.
I need to change my underwear now.
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Only missing Tim Cain D:
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This game is gonna happen.
That is if the community has anything to say about it :D.
(which it obviously does, so it's a straight shot)
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Thanks for the info.... and holy shit I am so sad that I don't have 10k in my pocket.
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How naive.
I demand Izual to retract this post!
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$1 mil is not the total budget for the game, is it?
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u can buy very nice 3d engine for 30k 4 example. (topic about engine on wasteland2 forum)
the game story is already written...
hmmm I think they know what theyr doin.
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same dirty tricks as 2238 ?:D
but you need to pay salary of your crew, pay for marketing and other shit...
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yoz, the budget is going to be whatever kickstarter reaches which will probably end up being a few million when all is said and done. It doesn't need a massive budget. It isn't going to be one of those OMG THOSE TREES ARE PHOTOREALISTIC games that come out nowadays. They will probably use a fairly cheap and versatile 3d engine, it won't be in development for 3+ years. 1 mil was probably for a very basic version. I just hope it makes enough that they think about the ability to do multiplayer with squad vs squad combat.
P.S.
Nice to see them sticking with isometric view and TB combat instead of what the new xcom is doing.
Just saw that they will be doing a linux/mac version if it reaches 1.5 mil, how nice :)
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Next thing will be like " we will make it a FPS if it reaches 2 mill " , suddenly the donations stop. ;D
Just kidding , must wait what comes out of all this.
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44k to goal! this shit is amazing. wasteland 2 may just fucking happen after all.
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2 done.
How many cash will they get for 33 days? :D I hope many for doing very cool and old school cRPG.
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yoz, the budget is going to be whatever kickstarter reaches which will probably end up being a few million when all is said and done. It doesn't need a massive budget. It isn't going to be one of those OMG THOSE TREES ARE PHOTOREALISTIC games that come out nowadays. They will probably use a fairly cheap and versatile 3d engine, it won't be in development for 3+ years. 1 mil was probably for a very basic version. I just hope it makes enough that they think about the ability to do multiplayer with squad vs squad combat.
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Nice to see them sticking with isometric view and TB combat instead of what the new xcom is doing.
Just saw that they will be doing a linux/mac version if it reaches 1.5 mil, how nice :)
I noticed there's only a notice about the Mac version on the main page. Where do you have the info about the Lnx version from?
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I noticed there's only a notice about the Mac version on the main page. Where do you have the info about the Lnx version from?
It's on the bottom of the page in FAQ.
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yeah, I've just noticed it. that's great news.
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Posted 10 min ago on fund site:
" YOU DID IT! We are funded and Wasteland 2 is a reality. A dream that began more than 20 years ago has actually come true. "
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2/posts
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Dammit cant use paypal to pledge!!!
Y U NO want my money?!!!!
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"Not only did we meet the highest funding goal ever on Kickstarter, we did it in 2 days! I know… we can’t believe it either."
Wordless :D
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End of month and I will be pledging $250 hopefully unless the wife kills me :P
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I wanted to donate $20 to it but then PayPal took one in the knee...
I feel your pain supfinal.
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I wanted to donate $20 to it but then PayPal took one in the knee...
I feel your pain supfinal.
I found out that I can do it through Amazon using a Debit card.
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I found out that I can do it through Amazon
Nope Amazon dont accept paypal....
only way is ukash>amazon
but ukash dont accept paypal too ><"
only solution that i know is to "win a bid" of amazon gift voucher from ebay.... ><"
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okay im sorry that i have to point this out but doublefine (tim schafer) did a kick starter that hit 3 mil and isnt getting any cred as the inspiration for wasteland 2's kickstarter. anyways to my point for all you euros out there, doublefine has a video posted for europeans on how to donate correctly, this model will also work for people trying to donate to wasteland. please do some research before you tell people there basically isnt a way to donate.
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heres the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbXygxSObUQ
also direct link to the forum describing how to do so.
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/5981
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If inXile stand up for their reputation with Wasteland 2 in a year, they can count me in for a pledge to buyout the Fallout franchise from Bethesda.
And i wonder how much people would join this cause.
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What is westland 2?
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Must...ignore...the trolls...
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If inXile stand up for their reputation with Wasteland 2 in a year, they can count me in for a pledge to buyout the Fallout franchise from Bethesda.
And i wonder how much people would join this cause.
Not many.
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Not many.
Not enough anyway. I don't think bethesda would give it up easily.
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Not you, for sure, Lexx. You are free from 'illusions'.
Miracles happen. Izual had his opinion about naivity (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,21999.msg182275.html#msg182275) too. If he meant that Brian Fargo ever get the money together for his project, the fan community proved him wrong with grand style. But since he said just two vague words, like you, we'll see what the game will look like. Maybe i will be the fool, then. Time will show.
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okay im sorry that i have to point this out but doublefine (tim schafer) did a kick starter that hit 3 mil and isnt getting any cred as the inspiration for wasteland 2's kickstarter. anyways to my point for all you euros out there, doublefine has a video posted for europeans on how to donate correctly, this model will also work for people trying to donate to wasteland. please do some research before you tell people there basically isnt a way to donate.
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heres the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbXygxSObUQ
also direct link to the forum describing how to do so.
http://www.doublefine.com/forums/viewthread/5981
NOPE still cant use my paypal to buy ukash....><"
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NOPE still cant use my paypal to buy ukash....><"
You can get Ukash from hundreds of thousands of global locations, online, from wallets, from kiosks and ATMs.Find out below where you can get Ukash in your country.
http://www.ukash.com/uk/en/where-to-get.aspx (http://www.ukash.com/uk/en/where-to-get.aspx)
U.K
Instore- epay - get Ukash from up to 6,000 stores nationwide displaying the epay sign
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One backer from the Netherlands (Hi Norbert!) shared his method with us via email. Here are the steps he gave:
1. Bought a Ukash voucher.
2. Converted it to a Ukash NEO prepaid MasterCard.
3. Used that prepaid (debit) card to back the project
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Already registered ukash and epay yesterday....
nope still cant use my PAYPAL....
and no ukash in epay product...
(http://soup-comic.com/stuff/epay.jpg)
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nope still cant use my PAYPAL....
Stop trying to use paypal then and WALK to a shop that deals with epay, paypoint or payzone.
What country you in?
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Stop trying to use paypal then and WALK to a shop that deals with epay, paypoint or payzone.
What country you in?
Malaysia.... nvm since they dont want my paypal money... I just used it to by some stuff on ebay ><"
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http://www.paypoint.net/ (http://www.paypoint.net/) advertise paypal
Or get a bank account or get a better bank account that issues debit cards. Or get a credit card/pre paid credit card.
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http://www.paypoint.net/ (http://www.paypoint.net/) advertise paypal
Or get a bank account or get a better bank account that issues debit cards. Or get a credit card/pre paid credit card.
Finally paypal!!! thanks!
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Not you, for sure, Lexx. You are free from 'illusions'.
Miracles happen. Izual had his opinion about naivity (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,21999.msg182275.html#msg182275) too. If he meant that Brian Fargo ever get the money together for his project, the fan community proved him wrong with grand style. But since he said just two vague words, like you, we'll see what the game will look like. Maybe i will be the fool, then. Time will show.
This is a totally different issue. Getting a million for Wasteland 2 is reasonable. Thinking to get many, many, many millions to buy the Fallout license from Bethesda (who most likely don't want to sell their cash cow anyway), while the majority of players thinks that Fallout 3 = best game ever, is not naive, it's just silly.
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while the majority of players thinks that Fallout 3 = best game ever, is not naive, it's just silly.
... this attitude if it isn't as it was then it's shit , is silly.
Most probably when wasteland 2 will come out there will be major whine how things aren't as they should be or how they aren't as they were , there is like not a single new game where " consumers " like you don't whine about something.
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"Naive" was expressing my doubts on Wasteland 2, not its funding. I donated, though.
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"Naive" was expressing my doubts on Wasteland 2, not its funding. I donated, though.
You mean game/mechanic wise or if it will ever be released?
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Like Shang Tsun said " It has begun"...Donated...Date of Release october '13!!!!
I belive, you to should!!
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You mean game/mechanic wise or if it will ever be released?
About the game itself. As said on NMA, I keep this quote in mind:
Q: So, Bethesda bought the rights to develop Fallout 3. A lot of fans are worried that Bethesda won’t stay true to the key elements of Fallout i.e. the isometric perspective and the S.P.E.C.I.A.L.-system. There’s even a fan that started a petition. Does Bethesda feel it’s important to stay true to Fallout or are they just looking to deliver great game?
A: I don't think we could make a great game without staying true to Fallout.
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... this attitude if it isn't as it was then it's shit , is silly.
Most probably when wasteland 2 will come out there will be major whine how things aren't as they should be or how they aren't as they were , there is like not a single new game where " consumers " like you don't whine about something.
There are new games where "consumers" like me don't whine about something. Plus, I have no clue what your post has to do with my post. I'll guess you missunderstod my post as "if you think Fallout 3 is the best game ever, then you are silly," which is not what I wrote.
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We should all note that those games we played over 15 years ago made a different imprint on our minds than todays games just because of our experience with computer games and maybe age. Hell, if I look at wasteland today I wouldn't even consider playing it because of the controls. But back then we took our time with games, enjoyed the little things. We were fine with the basic possibilities a game could offer and had fun playing it, the standard was completly different. Most of us are easily dissapointed by todays games because they can't awake the same feelings the old games did to our "youngster"-selves and I feel like that myself pretty often. In my opinion the time of "those" games is over for a long time. Computer games have changed from fine crafted art to products for the masses.
Let's see what wasteland2 will become and maybe enjoy a good game. No point on poking the corpses left by the great game studios of the past.
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No point on poking the corpses left by the great game studios of the past.
Not if any necromancers have anything to say about it...
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Meanwhile, as the project reached the skylimit, a option of PayPal was added.
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More than 1,5 millions. :o
Now, the sky is the limit... :P
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that's a very gooood new :) !!!
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Oh, look, Mr. Avellone gather Obsidian troops to to join the cause?
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/03/30/obisidian-to-co-develop-wasteland-2-on-one-condition/
Time to shift the higher gear.
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We have announced a major piece of good news today that inXile has reached an agreement with Obsidian for potential design assistance for Wasteland 2. What that means is that Obsidian’s Chief Creative Officer, Chris Avellone, is going to work with our team on the design and writing of the game! It is important to note that we say "potential" as they will come aboard assuming we hit $2.1 million in funding. The good news is that we have already seen a spike in just the few hours since this was announced in a press release this morning.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2/posts
HELL YEAH!
They are at 1.8 millions with 16 days to go!
Chris Avellone, Mark Morgan, Brian Fargo, Tim Cain, Jason Anderson and few others, my fucking god. This is gonna be fucking huge.
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NO fucking way... Tim Cain, now its really dream team
Hell no this will be fucking greatest rpg ever :D
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There is no word about whole obsidian involved in. Only about Chris Avallone for some writting + some license for dialog tools.
There is no single word about Tim Cain or other Obsidian members... -- at this point.
I hope they gona bring in Tim Cain a true father of Fallout (which Brian Fargo isnt btw).
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yeah rascal is right Tim Cain Is The Shit Lets Hope That he will Work on It ;D
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yea
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Tim Cain is the Blue Lion of Obsidian Voltron. I hope he'll be in team when they get the 2.1 mark.
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hehe
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Which of Wasteland 2 release variants have you bought or you want to buy? I am considering the 50$ version, but i do not collect games in boxes, so i dont know if it will have additional value for me. 15$ version seems adequate for my needs.
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Did the $250 version + $20 on Codex + $20 on NMA.
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Almost millions and still 15 days to go. :o
So overwhelming... :'(
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I hope they gona bring in Tim Cain a true father of Fallout (which Brian Fargo isnt btw).
This is no falloutgame btw ...
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Buy its very similar about style of world ;P
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I couldn't resist and chipped in 150$... plus 15$ for international ship... and that's not counting VAT... but I'm sure it'll worth it.
Perhaps some of you haven't contributed yet, if that is your case remember... ONLY 40 HOURS LEFT! It's currently at 2.6 million, but there is room for improvement. Go, now!
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I have ordered 50$ version. B. Fargo said, that game development would take cca 1 and half year? So the game should be released before a christmas. ;D
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So what do you think, will the funding get over 3M in this last 8 hours?
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I bet it will get the 3 Millions on last minute. It's 7 hours to go and they have $2,823,347 plus the almost 90k squid from paypal.
But even if there will be toolsets - it will be a 3d turd, not as "oldschool" as many people thought it will be. My interest was long lost, especially since I was never a fan of the Wasteland universe.
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You are so full of lol.
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it is funny to watch how people donate project with out web site ;D
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I bet it will get the 3 Millions on last minute.
it stoped at $2,933,147 :)
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its $3,040,299 after u add paypal pledges.
So the ultimate goal has been reached. MOD kit included.
It has hit all of the funding goals it set for itself, and because of that added Linux and Mac versions, Russian and Polish localizations, Chris Avellone design, Obsidian tools and a modkit to its development goals.
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Now i know my NeXT buisness :) wasteland 2000 gold edition :) Please donate me :)
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Now we only can wait... :)
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it is funny to watch how people donate project with out web site ;D
Brian Fargo has more credit than random shmucks out there with websites up and running.
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I have ordered 50$ version. B. Fargo said, that game development would take cca 1 and half year? So the game should be released before a christmas. ;D
"GB: Assuming the game reaches or exceeds its funding goal, how long do you anticipate it will be before the game is ready for release? With over a year's worth of development under your belt already, is it possible we could be playing Wasteland 2 in 2012 yet?
Brian: We are gearing everything towards a ship in October 2013".
But even if there will be toolsets - it will be a 3d turd, not as "oldschool" as many people thought it will be. My interest was long lost, especially since I was never a fan of the Wasteland universe.
Im not sure about 3d, but info below is intresting:
"GB: Unfortunately, role-playing games have lost much of their original identity in recent years, thanks in part to the popularity of first-person action RPGs. How do you convince a newer or younger RPG fan who has grown accustomed to the action-focused titles to give Wasteland 2 a shot?
Brian: Well here is the beauty of fan funding... we don't have to convince some younger RPG player of anything. I am making this game for the wonderful fans who put their money behind us and not some nebulous group of new people. Let's make the game they all expect and let the chips fall where they may. There is just no way I'm going to consider anything that could let down the core".
source (http://www.gamebanshee.com/interviews/107335-wasteland-2-interview/page-2.html).
After Brian Fargo goal with Kickstarer,Baldur's Gate 3 creator (http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition/1220929p1.html) , start thinking about same way.