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Title: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: ronillon on June 22, 2012, 04:01:27 am
Feel free to post links to pages on http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/ that you think are horribly outdated and need fixing.

Best if you can also write what is outdated/wrong with that page and what should be done to fix it. Any relevant game mechanics and formulas are appreciated.
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: greenthumb on June 22, 2012, 04:56:33 am
Iam missing page for Metal Mask MKII and Combat armor helmet

also page /armors /helmets is aparently same but missing pictures of all types of helmets
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Minigun
missing blueprint
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Avenger_Minigun
not changed from previous crafting system(2  lvl BG smith,BP needed)
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Improved_Flamer
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Improved_Heaterchamber
Both missing BP,while you have no option for them in fixboy with lvl 2 BG smith
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/10mm_SMG
missing BP
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Sniper_Rifle
not changed from previous crafting system(2  lvl SG smith,BP needed)
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Pancor_Jackhammer
not changed from previous crafting system(2  lvl SG smith,BP needed)
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/H%26K_P90c
not changed from previous crafting system(2  lvl SG smith,BP needed)
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/FN_FAL_HPFA
iam not sure if this is craftable, if yes need to add BP and remove to lvl 2 SG smith
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/XL70E3
not changed from previous crafting system(2  lvl SG smith,BP needed)
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/M72_Gauss_Rifle
what i know this gun is non obtainable atm,just add info
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Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: greenthumb on June 28, 2012, 03:09:24 am
Quote
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http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/10mm_SMG
missing BP
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actualy BP is not required, my fail sorry
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: HertogJan on June 28, 2012, 09:24:23 am
Problem is that people can only update the wiki if they have an alt who used the specific blueprint.
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 28, 2012, 09:48:32 am
Ummmm XL70E3 is not craftable
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on June 28, 2012, 08:28:04 pm
Quote from: Mike Crosser on June 28, 2012, 09:48:32 am
Ummmm XL70E3 is not craftable
Yes it is, or before it was, maybe Devs will add Blueprint later
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 28, 2012, 08:45:16 pm
Quote from: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on June 28, 2012, 08:28:04 pm
Yes it is, or before it was, maybe Devs will add Blueprint later
No,Solar said somewhere that XL was removed from crafting table.
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: ronillon on June 29, 2012, 12:05:06 am
Quote from: Mike Crosser on June 28, 2012, 08:45:16 pm
No,Solar said somewhere that XL was removed from crafting table.

Yes, he said so http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,9334.msg79863.html#msg79863
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: Skullcrusher on July 14, 2012, 09:00:57 am
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Assault_rifle (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Assault_rifle)
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The Assault Rifle can be found in the following encounters:
[...]
Bootleggers

I killed a lot of Bootleggers around Redding recently and none of them was wielding Assault Rifle.
Can somebody confirm that they no longer drop Assault Rifles?
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: Skullcrusher on July 22, 2012, 02:58:11 pm

Looting:

Suggestions:
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: Mike Crosser on July 22, 2012, 03:04:51 pm
Quote from: Skullcrusher on July 22, 2012, 02:58:11 pm
  • Hunting Rifle, FN FAL and Assault Rifle need 4AP in single mode, not 5AP
They need 5 ap for single mode
4 ap is needed only when you have the fast shot trait or the Bonus rate of fire perk.
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: HertogJan on July 22, 2012, 03:22:28 pm
As said before, crafting info can only be updated if people have the information meaning the bp.
Crafting info on the stimpak and super stimpak is correct.
AP on the HR, FN FAL and AR are correct. You probably have the BRoF perk.
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: Skullcrusher on July 22, 2012, 03:42:16 pm
Quote from: HertogJan on July 22, 2012, 03:22:28 pm
Crafting info on the stimpak and super stimpak is correct.
Makes no sense to me, but ok.
Quote from: HertogJan
AP on the HR, FN FAL and AR are correct. You probably have the BRoF perk.
Yes, I have BRoF perk and also Fast Shoot trait (-2AP for every single shot altogether, right?). For example Grease Gun SMG (5AP single in wiki) takes me 3 AP for single shot (5-2AP) and HR, FN FAL and AR takes 2AP for single shot. Is there some other factor I am unaware of?
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: Crazy on July 22, 2012, 03:50:12 pm
Fast shot alone is -2AP with two hands weapons.
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: Skullcrusher on July 22, 2012, 03:59:10 pm
Uh, you are right, now I've read the trait description. Sorry, and thanks guys.
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: Stration on July 22, 2012, 05:01:40 pm
Quote from: Skullcrusher on July 22, 2012, 02:58:11 pm
Mook isn't a ghoul, and he lives in Modoc, not Gecko,
That's a nice catch; the article has been fixed.
Title: Re: Outdated Wikipedia pages
Post by: ronillon on July 24, 2012, 03:50:46 pm
Quote from: Skullcrusher on July 22, 2012, 02:58:11 pm

Looting:
  • http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/.223_Pistol can no longer be looted from Mercenaries, but I'm sure that Vault City Patrolers have them (maybe other cities patrols too).
  • http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Grease_gun can be also looted from Raiders encounters (between VC and BH), Elronologists, Gang, Prospectors, Homesteaders...
  • http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Grenade_%28Frag%29 can be looted from Elronologists and Press Gang
  • http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Grenade_%28Plasma%29 can be looted from Mercenaries
  • http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Ripper can be looted from Press Gang
  • http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Assault_rifle can't be looted from Bootleggers, but VC Patrolers have them
  • http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Sniper_Rifle can be looted from VC Patrol
  • http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Cattle_Prod can be looted from Homesteaders
  • http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Flamer can be looted from Gang, Rogues, Claim jumpers...
  • http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/FN_FAL FN FAL can be found in Raiders encounters between Vault City and Broken Hills
These have been updated. Thanks

Quote from: Skullcrusher on July 22, 2012, 02:58:11 pm
Suggestions:
  • It would be nice, if articles http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Weapon (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Weapon), http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Armor (http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Armor), http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Deterioration (http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Deterioration) and http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Repair (http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Repair) had info about condition x%/y% values (as a new player I had to search the forum to know what this two values mean)
Yes, these articles need major overhaul to be logical and consistent. The problem is, that many things have changed with the last wipe. So we need someone who has better understanding of game mechanics. Additionally, Solar was working on some changes on the gear and deterioration and its effects.

Quote from: Skullcrusher on July 22, 2012, 02:58:11 pm
Suggestions:
  • It would be nice if ammunition in all weapon articles (weapon template) could be a clickable links.
These tables are maintained by AHS-9 script, from what i have been told by Ghosthack, the script needs to be updated to be compatible with post-wipe version of the game. First we need a function version, then we can alter these minor things.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Sishare on August 31, 2012, 01:12:06 pm
http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Hit_Points
need up
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Gob on October 27, 2012, 11:42:54 am
I have updated:

http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Mercs
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Fix-Boy
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Healing_rate
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Outdoorsman#Travelling_speed
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Public_Mines#Mining
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Deliver_the_Gun_Runners_Package#Requirements

I have done:

http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Frag_Mines
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Registration_menu
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Hand_slot
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Black_Claw_Radscorpion
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Head_slot
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Lockers
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Containers
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Party_size
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/High_Quality_Electronic_Parts
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Sex
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Tattoo

Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: café saké on October 27, 2012, 11:54:05 am
Hi,

Maybe that could be nice to precise about recruting : Charisma and Luck (others?) impact on PV (and skills/SPECIAL?) of your followers
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Gob on October 27, 2012, 11:57:14 am
Quote from: café saké on October 27, 2012, 11:54:05 am
Hi,

Maybe that could be nice to precise about recruting : Charisma and Luck (others?) impact on PV of your followers

I do not belive that Luck affects the quality of the mercs you get. I have tried numerous times with characters with high luck and charisma and I did not seem to obatain any "improved' mercs.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: café saké on October 27, 2012, 12:00:51 pm
I test it with a 10LK 10CH and an 1LK 10CH
Difference is awesome. 250PV vs 150PV on SG mercs
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Gob on October 27, 2012, 02:20:56 pm
Quote from: café saké on October 27, 2012, 12:00:51 pm
I test it with a 10LK 10CH and an 1LK 10CH
Difference is awesome. 250PV vs 150PV on SG mercs

Done.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Gob on October 28, 2012, 03:49:36 pm
Who else is working on the wiki right now? It would be a good idea to team up, that way we can finnish this faster.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Redivivus on October 28, 2012, 04:06:13 pm
Made minor fixes to your tattoo, HQ E.parts and Party size pages. Nicely done, Gob.

Quote from: Gob on October 28, 2012, 03:49:36 pm
Who else is working on the wiki right now? It would be a good idea to team up, that way we can finnish this faster.
Sometimes i appear there.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: FrankenStone on October 28, 2012, 04:35:57 pm
http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Switchblade

DMG is Outdated and also curently it got the penetrate perk , maybe add that u can find them sometimes at random encounters in caves
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Horatio on October 28, 2012, 05:44:13 pm
3D Armor tracker is also outdated.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Gob on October 28, 2012, 07:07:15 pm
Quote from: Redivivus on October 28, 2012, 04:06:13 pm
Made minor fixes to your tattoo, HQ E.parts and Party size pages. Nicely done, Gob.
Sometimes i appear there.

Thank you.

Quote from: Horatio on October 28, 2012, 05:44:13 pm
3D Armor tracker is also outdated.

I belive that's something someone from the 3D development should do.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Dark. on October 28, 2012, 07:15:58 pm
Deliver the Gun Runners Package requirements are outdated. Now the minimum level is 12 instead of 5.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Gob on October 28, 2012, 08:07:21 pm
Quote from: Dark. on October 28, 2012, 07:15:58 pm
Deliver the Gun Runners Package requirements are outdated. Now the minimum level is 12 instead of 5.

Done.

If you spot any outdated information that needs updating post it here with the link to the page.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Gruik on October 28, 2012, 08:24:12 pm
The two quest from Junktown called "Optimizing the Power House" and "The Inoperative Mr Handy" lack some informations. In fact, there seems to be a Science requirement for optimizing the generators and for installing the robot's motivator, wich is not specified in the wiki, only requirement visible is that we have to got a Level>3 char.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Redivivus on October 28, 2012, 09:00:36 pm
There is also repair required for fixing power plant. Though, i'm lack of info about this quest myself.

Any tips from those who made it?
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Gob on October 28, 2012, 09:56:03 pm
Quote from: Redivivus on October 28, 2012, 09:00:36 pm
There is also repair required for fixing power plant. Though, i'm lack of info about this quest myself.

Any tips from those who made it?

I manage to make them with 100 science and 100 repair + super tool kit and tool
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: FrankenStone on October 29, 2012, 02:09:12 am
whole cathedral page is outdated http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Cathedral

because the cathedral at L.Ä. isnt the one that is on the westcoast
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Redivivus on October 29, 2012, 11:22:54 am
Quote from: FrankenStone on October 29, 2012, 02:09:12 am
whole cathedral page is outdated http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Cathedral

It's the W.I.P. change.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Dark. on October 29, 2012, 11:42:56 am
Quote from: Gruik on October 28, 2012, 08:24:12 pm
The two quest from Junktown called "Optimizing the Power House" and "The Inoperative Mr Handy" lack some informations. In fact, there seems to be a Science requirement for optimizing the generators and for installing the robot's motivator, wich is not specified in the wiki, only requirement visible is that we have to got a Level>3 char.
You need around 100 on Science and Repair skill, then it will work.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: ronillon on October 30, 2012, 02:46:14 pm
Quote from: Redivivus on October 28, 2012, 09:00:36 pm
There is also repair required for fixing power plant. Though, i'm lack of info about this quest myself.

Any tips from those who made it?
Its already some time, since i tested it, but i was able to finish both quests with 30-40 science/repair. This obviously needs to be tested again to observe current situation. From my point of view nothing can broke, so you just keep trying till it works.

Quote from: Gob on October 28, 2012, 03:49:36 pm
Who else is working on the wiki right now? It would be a good idea to team up, that way we can finnish this faster.
The easyest way is to check http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers which shows user contribution in the past month.
It is strongly advised to come to #2238wiki channel on IRC when you are editing wiki. Yu can meed other contributors there.

Quote from: café saké on October 27, 2012, 11:54:05 am
Hi,

Maybe that could be nice to precise about recruting : Charisma and Luck (others?) impact on PV (and skills/SPECIAL?) of your followers
This is exactly why we need the help of other players, one can't present informations which one does not got.
Title: Re: Outdated Wiki pages
Post by: Gruik on October 30, 2012, 07:19:48 pm
Quote from: ronillon on October 30, 2012, 02:46:14 pm
Its already some time, since i tested it, but i was able to finish both quests with 30-40 science/repair. This obviously needs to be tested again to observe current situation. From my point of view nothing can broke, so you just keep trying till it works.

I tried last week, char level 12, Science 55% and Repair 109%. I repaired generators but can't optimize them, and I can't install the motivator in the robot, tried like 100 times, on "differents" (aka close then open dialog) dialog boxes.