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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Off-topic discussions => Topic started by: Eternauta on October 22, 2010, 08:51:32 am
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Nevermind.
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The point you are missing that Obsidian developed Fallout:New Vegas, not Bethesda. ::)
That all of the Gamebryo Games coming from the Bethesda Company are very mod-friendly is nothing new.
And so what that there are new things which have been done by modders too? Do you hate functions which are good just because someone else made them before? I don't care if it has been used in mods before, as I dont use mods.
And your post is not even a shitty conspiracy theory, it is just talking about things without even knowing about them. ::)
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I totally agree, although I don't have time to fully explain my reasons (schoolday, gotta leave soon) so i'm just gonna point at your paragraphs and say "dats what i'm talking about!".
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Unpayed and exploited betaplayers? That's ridiculous, dear sir.
It's called appreciation of feedback and i'm really glad that Obsidian noticed the massive critics by the Fallout fanbase on the work of Bethesda.
And i agree with Surf Solar that you need to inform yourself about the necessary details - however, Bethesda indeed take the most profit from the sales of NV.
And appreciating feedback is a very fine move, what i rarely seen much from other developers. Because of that, i enjoy New Vegas a lot.
Or would you complain about your suggestion being implemented in 2238 by Lexx & Co. and not explicitely mentioned by them as author?
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This pretty much sums up my thoughts about this thread. :D
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This is just trolling, no matter how hard i laughed ..
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omg beautiful render !
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this whit i think about the (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/tongan321/picard-facepalm.png) replys
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*facepalm loop* To infinity and beyond!
Anyway I don't think that Bethe$da tricked us in any way other than creating shitty game. When you compare F3 and FNV then there is one major difference: story. F3 and its quality of quests, dialogues, story, background, atmosphere etc. was at the freezing point at best. The quality radically increased when Obsidian guys took over the development. And no matter what else they introduced into the game (HC mod, aiming, weapon mods, follower wheel, geckos etc.) the game would be the same shit all over again if it lacks the story and logic.
In New Vegas when there is a city, then there is electric/food/water supply, trade connections with outside world, economics and political problems etc. The world follows simple logic and everything fits together perfectly. And when you add good dialogues and story to it, you get something worth playing. But my feeling from 10 hours playtime of F3 were like this game was made not "By gamers for gamers" but "By retards for retards" - literary. Dialogues followed simple pattern 1st line = good answer, 2nd = neutral answer, = 3rd = negative and that was it. NPCs acted like idiots not to mention irritating storyline and huge flaws in it.
Simply F3 was stupid while FNV is not. When you add something extra such as those geckos, weapons, dehydratation etc. then I call it a notneeded bonus that can enchance the gaming experience. But just for the record Gamebryo is lame engine to begin with so I would rather skip rating the technical side of the game. But in the end technical side does not even matter to me as long as the game is enertaining (not irritating). And that is what Obsidian fellas do with games, they make the time spend playing them worth it.
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If Obsidian was catering to clearly to the players of Fallout 3...
Why can you still not play the game after beating the final mission in New Vegas? It's retarded.
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If Obsidian was catering to clearly to the players of Fallout 3...
Why can you still not play the game after beating the final mission in New Vegas? It's retarded.
compare the sales of DLCs from fo3 and Broken steel obviously takes the cake.
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If Obsidian was catering to clearly to the players of Fallout 3...
Why can you still not play the game after beating the final mission in New Vegas? It's retarded.
Undoubtedly because they would have to add new lines of dialog for the towns and most people in it and thats hard work ::)
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New vegas is pretty heavy on the f2 references, it makes me happy.
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I liked FO3. Despite its amazing Graphics i think Bethesda catches the Fallout Flair pretty good. (Not nearly perfect but good)
The dark, caged feeling in the ruins of Washington especially the subways were pretty cool. The Gore Effects were cool.
Definetly one of my all time favorites.
But i really cant get into New Vegas ...
I dont get the Cowboy Style ...
Looks like a Collision Course betwen Red Dead Redemption and Fallout 3.
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I liked FO3. Despite its amazing Graphics i think Bethesda catches the Fallout Flair pretty good. (Not nearly perfect but good)
The dark, caged feeling in the ruins of Washington especially the subways were pretty cool. The Gore Effects were cool.
Definetly one of my all time favorites.
But i really cant get into New Vegas ...
I dont get the Cowboy Style ...
Looks like a Collision Course betwen Red Dead Redemption and Fallout 3.
Looks like you are [almost] the only one, who liked shitty F3 and don't like nearly amazing FNV.
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Fallout New Vegas is worthy successor of original Fallout serie.
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Well, i guess its about taste.
I just dont get this Cowboy Style at all. As if there were still magnum colts beyond year 2200...
And i cant understand why you guys are so angry at FO3 ^^. It was GOTY 2008. So it cant be that bad.
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It's mainly because of the engine, but in FO3 they kinda overdid the 50:s references, and butchered most of the lore, localizing the FEV virus to the east coast whereas it was supposed to localized exclusively at the west coast, and of course fallout is a future-wild-west-with-some-50:s-references themed game. They also changed the super-mutants into "Steroid-junkie Orcs".
Technically speaking it is not Fallout 3, but it is more of "Oooh, lookit mah I'z oblivion in pozt-apoc setting, and I haz same outdated engin az my predecessor, but you can only chooz to b wun rejs, also, i'z not compatibul wiz oblivion modz, yes, i'm zat much of an asshole"
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Technically speaking it is not Fallout 3, but it is more of "Oooh, lookit mah I'z oblivion in pozt-apoc setting, and I haz same outdated engin az my predecessor, but you can only chooz to b wun rejs, also, i'z not compatibul wiz oblivion modz, yes, i'm zat much of an asshole"
LOL
this pretty much rounds up all u need to know about fallout 3. But i loved Oblivion and so i love FO3 ^^
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Playing Morrowind placed a bit of extended criticsism towards Oblivion and Bethesda on my part, because a comparison of the two pretty much shows that GameBryo is the root of all evil, because the change in Bethesda between ES3 and ES4 shows that from being a games studio they became a faceless corporation of below average (shoddy workmanship) games.
After the release of Oblivion (including itself) all of Bethesda's games have exhibited levels of bugs (both inscignificant and critical) that IRL an exterminator would be devoured quicker than he can say: Oh shit! They're everywhere!