Hmm that´s pitty.Because everyone wants to pay for wipe not for nothing...Wipe is coming.. that is sure, but it happens when devs got all work done.
Wipe is coming.. that is sure, but it happens when devs got all work done.yea yea yea IT'S ALL THE SAME BULLSHIT AND IT'S BAD FOR YA
yea yea yea IT'S ALL THE SAME BULLSHIT AND IT'S BAD FOR YA
[...]Because everyone wants to pay for wipe not for nothing...
p2w abbreviation gets a new meaning in current situation. Normally it's "pay-to-win", but in this case it's "pay-to-wipe" ;D
you are completely wrong... the donations have never been anything else than pay-2-wait :D :D :D
** FURY UNLEASHED **Get a life. Yeah, behind firewall.
If the wipe is too much, release a list of done changes, new features for new era etc. Anything will do.+1
Get a life. Yeah, behind firewall
they could easily do wipe + some minor changes let people have fun for few moths and then launch "the big wipe" with fundamental changes onboard (lke domination mode i hope)That's what they did last time, there was so minor changes that people got bored very quickly and left the game after few months.
4 example devs are telling that worlmap speed gona be increased after wipe, why dont make Wipe now and increase it NOW (I know its just 1 fucking parametr in sdk files just 1 fucking parametr...), 4 sure u can easily find few other smaller things ready to be implemented /changed just NOW...
they could easily do wipe + some minor changes
But I tend to agree with the fact they should change few parameters to make the last resilients have some fun.
I am quite new to FOnline, but I would gladly donate if I had a credit card. Even if the wipe wouldn't happen, I'd still donate. This awesome game can't be let fall on it's face. I am afraid that this is going to become money based game just like the others, only way to survive is to pay loads of money for extreme gear and stats, and without those you'll get raped by every single payer. That is complete bullshit, and that is why I want to donate.
I hope even one person here thinks just like I do.
Lol scypior dont remove my posts you think that players will donate moneys because you remove all posts that contain criticism and the truth about your work and the server ? :DYou seem to fail at understanding the base principles about those all donations. We were repeating it ad nauseam.
You asked about donate few months ago and what you and your dream team give players?
So now tell me and other players why we should donate ? to see big mega uber update like new color of robes or new trees in few encounters?
Yeah, well, we could even test more solutions that way, I agree.I remember during the first months of the open beta, when we used to have our weekly features to test. People enjoyed it a lot, cause we felt like, you know, real beta testers. ;)
Noted, for the future!
hows that work for everyone?
I hope not.
First of all this game can't become Pay To Play model or even Free to Play with microtransactions. It is a mod that uses copyrighted material therefore can't make money on it (many times said before).
Building on that your whole sentence is irrelevant. Doesn't even makes sense. You came up with this what you call "bullshit" idea of a caricature game model (called pay to win exaggeration) that only exist in your head. Going on from there you made a reference to a game you actually play to justify the reason for donating.
I know you will not understand what I just said but just try to think logically before posting because otherwise It just doesn't make sense.
[...]Luther, actually most of people are complaining about the lack of info about the progress of the long awaited update, sometimes it can be frustrating to take part finacially in a work you only know a little.
The "we don't tell you what we're working on" schtick was originally created so that players don't whine all day on forum or discuss something to death which isn't even ingame yet. Seeing our community, I can understand why this path was chosen. As for me personally, I don't have much problems to share what I am working on, but then again I mostly do quest stuff, or sound/music and such, which isn't that much object to discuss thousands of pages about.(http://fraa.blox.pl/resource/181148triple_facepalm_super.jpg)
I do agree with scypior that there could be a tiny bit of more hindsight, but the recent blogpost was already a step in the right direction. I enjoy it much more to read about some backgrounds that are planned and how to develop them, than to see the naked point in our beloved to-do list. ;)
As for people trolling in here, it's always funny to see them crying over such minor stuff, dooming the server/game etc. but yet coming back and repeating the same old inanities like some broken loop. ;)
"We won't do anything, kiss our feets because we done server hurr,durr"
You said that.If those propositions were many times, so why no one made anything about it?
Anyway, I think that this, and the other points were made here many, many times, I don't think anything new can be said in this regard. No need to repeat yourself, we will address many issues one way or another, but not because of that witty demotivational poster.
If those propositions were many times, so why no one made anything about it?
P.S I wanted to modify Surf's avatar to facepalm, but after second thought it would take too much time for me
I would like to donate but its not an English and I don't know if it accepts debit cards. BTW is it true that when your speech reaches 200 you are banned? How does speech go up?
Meanwhile we're not paying for this game, people. So the devs cannot be held to any deadlines. Put more directly: the devs are not obligated to meet any deadlines. When they say "soon", that's the shortest way to say "stop asking". I mean really, we don't deserve to know anything about the development. We should be thankful this game exists, thankful there even is a dev blog, thankful there is a forum, thankful thankful thankful.
but all we want to know is when will be wipe...sooner than soon was hmmm 3months ago?;]
Got good news (depending on what you've expected):So, now we know that wipe will be in 3 months, right?
We've extended the rental period for next 3 months, got ~9e left, let's enjoy it a bit more and hope for a wipe!
So, now we know that wipe will be in 3 months, right?We do?
Wipe is taking so long, people are leaving 2238 and playing games like TLAmk2, which by the way is better and has a bigger player base, but it's simply too much russians, so people just stop playing FOnline and go play another game, come on, I know new features are hard to implement, but I am sure that the devs aren't employing 100% of their time in it, because devs have a life too, they aren't bots, so could you all stop complaining about it and forget the word "Wipe" for a month or two, because the more we complain here the longer the devs will take to...wipe.
Delaying wipe is good. It filters out the spoiled whiners from those of us who truly appreciate the game. So take your time, devs! I hope it's not until at least Spring. I for one don't mind at all, and i look forward to more jerks quitting and leaving a higher ratio of the rest of us.I can't count how many times I heard that I'm only devs' little slave. I'm on their mercy, God I'm so thankful for not wiping the server yet! :D
Meanwhile we're not paying for this game, people. So the devs cannot be held to any deadlines. Put more directly: the devs are not obligated to meet any deadlines. When they say "soon", that's the shortest way to say "stop asking". I mean really, we don't deserve to know anything about the development. We should be thankful this game exists, thankful there even is a dev blog, thankful there is a forum, thankful thankful thankful.
To my fellow appreciatives: hang in there and keep enduring all the childish complaining - the longer we endure it, the higher will be the appreciative-to-complainer ratio later. And to the whiners...i hear there is a nice Hello Kitty game out there. If you play it and you miss Fallout, then maybe submit a suggestion there to have Hello Kitty Rocket Launchers added or some such.
Dunno how you but i am waiting for one single wipe more than year... so yeah, thats it. Wipe just could be earlier, even without any update.So you expected server to be wiped after three months of a season?
So you expected server to be wiped after three months of a season?Yes. That was often the shedule before that era ;p
So you expected server to be wiped after three months of a season?
...200!? Check server status, 200 players online on 2238 now is almost impossible.
dont believe it's only 200 players from all countries (1 player per 1 country) liked that games200 players is called a "peak" nowadays (http://www.rookie.name/fonline/playerStats.php?r=year&s=1324122138&ts=0&ar=0&step=12). It used to be 400-600, when I started to spread trolling art in November 2009. This however seems to be desired and expected situation:
Say "hallo" to I don't care. If there would be 0 people playing the game, we would still work on it. Beside this, we aren't a commercial game that needs to have 100k players all the time. So, yeah. I don't give a shit and therefore the numbers aren't an argument.
Say "hallo" to I don't care. If there would be 0 people playing the game, we would still work on it. Beside this, we aren't a commercial game that needs to have 100k players all the time. So, yeah. I don't give a shit and therefore the numbers aren't an argument.
Isn't this a kind of "piss of y'all we don't need you anyway" to the playerbase? What kind of crap is THIS?
Dear iamridge,
we would love to release new features and add new content (hence, have a wipe) each few months as well. This is, however, not the case. Allow me to illustrate my point in short: only 2 years ago, I had approx. 6-10 hours per day for the development, nowadays no more than a few hours per week. In the very moment we started working on 2238, most of the team was motivated AND had enough time to make a framework for the open beta. However, in the next few months the team members finished their colleges, gotta work, got married, some of us got kids. I suppose most of players have a lot of free time, meaning their day passes slower than, for example, my day. You said there's 16 months since the last wipe? It seems like 16 days to me. Do you understand the issue now?
(...)YOU'RE ALIVE!!!11eleven
Before we started it seemed like we would have had 100 players at peak, to have that number this far in and 8 months since even the slightest update still seems weird to me.It's called "masochism", I guess :>
If you don't have much time, simply take more people.+1
If you don't have much time, simply take more people.
It's just not that easy.
Besides, check out Desert Europe. Lots of people in the beginning and now it's as good as dead. I don't have any insight in how they work, but my humble guess is that the reason for their problems are at least two: 1. lots of people doing nothing and 2. lots of endless discussion killing progress.
If you don't have much time, simply take more people.Johnny, I wish it was "simply ... do this and that." Let me be clear: explaining the situation about the FOnline: 2238 development and The Rotators is such a complicated material, that I could write a novel about it - no more, no less. I ask myself sometimes, if all of this is still just a dream, considering what incredible factors and coincidences led us to the point where we stand right now. Quite incredible, I assure you. There came the words of wisdom, behold:
The team is the way it is, and we work the way we work.
Glad to "see" you, sir.I must invest some skill points into Sneak, I see :)
In the very moment we started working on 2238, most of the team was motivated AND had enough time to make a framework for the open beta.^This.
3 devs and 2 GMs are some time connected, others are dead ?Reading seems to be forgotten ancient art.
How donate by other way instead of PayPal ? An example WebMoney. I think that in all countryes prefer different internet-sistems-of-pay.
I will look on WebMoney in free time, there have been already few request about that, we should not neglect it.Alertpay too?