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Title: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 07, 2013, 12:12:49 pm
Well since it's teh end might as well leave with a bang.

I need a rocket launcher build that uses little to no drugs.


Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 07, 2013, 12:13:20 pm
Tag bg and use rocket launcher, that should do it.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Enzotainment on June 07, 2013, 12:26:46 pm
A Real Life PvP build?

Don't think I want to answer that...
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Kascin on June 07, 2013, 12:39:12 pm
I changed my mind, I don't want to educate morons   ::)
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 07, 2013, 03:57:01 pm
You took the shittiest perks possible.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Dark. on June 07, 2013, 04:45:05 pm
Drop LK to 4 and put 1 point in ST. Then you can take Quick Recovery/ADR Rush instead of WH (useless perk for PvP character).
Bonehead instead of Loner and in this way you will gain 1 extra point from IN and you can put it on AG or PE (would prevent the use of Nuka or Cigs)

EDIT: Just made this one and might work good even without any drugs: http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=9239
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Kascin on June 07, 2013, 05:05:22 pm
You took the shittiest perks possible.

Thank you for sparing some of your huge knowledge.
Erm... no, you're only posting craps :)
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: BenKain on June 07, 2013, 09:06:56 pm
Trolls, trolls never change.... Do you have some nukas and cigs to use at least?
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 07, 2013, 09:08:07 pm
Trolls, trolls never change.... Do you have some nukas and cigs to use at least?
Yeah I got a few.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: BenKain on June 07, 2013, 09:19:06 pm
This is what I use, +Buffout, but you can get by without it I suppose

http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=9241
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 08, 2013, 10:21:22 am
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=9244

No drugs, it should be able to resist gauss criticals. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Kascin on June 08, 2013, 11:15:18 am
You harshly criticized my build yesterday, but did you ever played a Rocketer during pvp?

The difference between 10 AP and 12 AP is hudge.
A Rocket Launcher have a slow rate of fire, so he must have as much AP as he can afford.

No Fast Reload? Are you serious?
The Rocketer must reload every shot, so using 1 AP for that instead of 3 is really important!

Man of Steel?
Though I like it, I think there are more usefull perks; don't forget criticals have been buffed and now critical based builds are not common.
So 5 luck is enough.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 08, 2013, 11:23:32 am

The difference between 10 AP and 12 AP is hudge.
A Rocket Launcher have a slow rate of fire, so he must have as much AP as he can afford.

Man of Steel?
Though I like it, I think there are more usefull perks; don't forget criticals have been buffed and now critical based builds are not common.
So 5 luck is enough.
I don't know if you noticed but this is pre wipe madness, without those perks gausses will own and always bypass even if you have 10lk and APA.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: greenthumb on June 08, 2013, 08:06:12 pm
with 10 LK there is 0% chance to get bypass not matter what...
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 08, 2013, 08:27:57 pm
Test it if you want, gauss owns any character.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Kelin on June 09, 2013, 12:00:12 pm
with 10 LK there is 0% chance to get bypass not matter what...
This goes for uncall shots only (like critical bursts), you can still get aimed bypass and you will.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: LagMaster on June 12, 2013, 02:23:34 am
go at a gym and get end and str max, train in big gun machinery, enroll in the army for 3 years under heavy weapions specialist and there you go

after you can join these nice PVP factions: army/ mobsters/ mecenaries/ Zealots and more
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: DeputyDope on June 12, 2013, 09:28:07 am
go at a gym and get end and str max, train in big gun machinery, enroll in the army for 3 years under heavy weapions specialist and there you go

after you can join these nice PVP factions: army/ mobsters/ mecenaries/ Zealots and more

all your posts give me cancer.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on June 13, 2013, 11:24:28 pm
go at a gym and get end and str max, train in big gun machinery, enroll in the army for 3 years under heavy weapions specialist and there you go

after you can join these nice PVP factions: army/ mobsters/ mecenaries/ Zealots and more
KKK, bloods, Rebels, confederates, The taliban, The Union. all those PvP factions out there.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: wladimiiir on June 14, 2013, 03:08:03 pm
all your posts give me cancer.
Cancer cannot be just given, cancer must be also received. :P
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Lotus_ on June 20, 2013, 01:37:58 pm
You harshly criticized my build yesterday, but did you ever played a Rocketer during pvp?

The difference between 10 AP and 12 AP is hudge.
A Rocket Launcher have a slow rate of fire, so he must have as much AP as he can afford.

No Fast Reload? Are you serious?
The Rocketer must reload every shot, so using 1 AP for that instead of 3 is really important!

Man of Steel?
Though I like it, I think there are more usefull perks; don't forget criticals have been buffed and now critical based builds are not common.
So 5 luck is enough.
fast reload is good for turnbased and shit perk to take

adreline rush, tougher,even tougher, stonewall, lifegiver, lifegiver, lifegiver,bonus rate of fire, you need luck for bypass, i agree that u need many action points for rockteer to keep rockets comeing, 10 ag will be good, take bonehead and small frame , have 6 st, u need pe so 8 you need 10 en, 1 ch , up to u if u want one intel or 2 but u will have to take away from luck, takee all drugs, there free now so it doesnt matter, i used this build for tc and hardly got killed,
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: greenthumb on June 20, 2013, 03:28:44 pm
I would try this "ultimate" Crit rockeeter (ultimate = 21% crit chance, better crits, Maximized fire rate=Fast reload+BROF)

His weaknesess are ofc in low resists and just 218hp, still worth trying(thats what iam gona do!)

http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=9286&pass=lolo
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Lotus_ on June 20, 2013, 07:39:26 pm
They hardly ever crit, there very hard to play with u get board after a hour it took me 3 days til i finaly critted its a waste of time with crit rocket builds, make tank use ap rockets
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: greenthumb on June 20, 2013, 08:41:40 pm
yeah tested it a little, seems its not much of use, the only nice effect i have noticed was KO
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Lotus_ on June 21, 2013, 10:53:52 pm
:D nvm, anywaya not long left till its ova, hope they give codes
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 21, 2013, 11:45:13 pm
:D nvm, anywaya not long left till its ova, hope they give codes
That post gave me cancer
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Kascin on June 22, 2013, 03:47:39 am
fast reload is good for turnbased and shit perk to take

adreline rush, tougher,even tougher, stonewall, lifegiver, lifegiver, lifegiver,bonus rate of fire, you need luck for bypass, i agree that u need many action points for rockteer to keep rockets comeing, 10 ag will be good, take bonehead and small frame , have 6 st, u need pe so 8 you need 10 en, 1 ch , up to u if u want one intel or 2 but u will have to take away from luck, takee all drugs, there free now so it doesnt matter, i used this build for tc and hardly got killed,

Fast reload is a very good perk for a rocket launcher, because he need it every shot.
If you think this is useless, let's make a simple operation:
- if you have BROF and no fast reload you need 9 AP to fire and reload
- if you have BROF and fast reload you need 7 AP to fire an reload
To make it simple, when the first guy will shoot 4 times and reload, the second can do it 5 times.

Second thing I don't like Stonewall.
I had some characters with that perk and I don't think this is really usefull, unless you have a numerous advantage on your opponents.
This perk almost remove knockback effect when you are hit by a rocket, but when 2 or 3 rocket launchers target you, not having this perk can save your life. Because the knockback can put you out of the range of your opponents, allowing you to take a super-stimpack, gain some AP, etc...
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Lotus_ on June 22, 2013, 09:50:22 am
Wot eva who cares :D . It obvious your a total noob, all rocketeers need stonewall. Iim not even going to bother educateing you


peace
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 22, 2013, 10:18:05 am
Wot eva who cares :D . It obvious your a total noob, all rocketeers need stonewall. Iim not even going to bother educateing you


peace
Who are you talking to?
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Kascin on June 22, 2013, 11:09:24 am
He's talking to me.

But I find fun a guy writing like a retarded who's talking about educating me  ;D

What I only see is you're telling some things without giving any argument.
I said why I think stonewall is useless; and you on the other side you said LolOlLol you nab stonewall its a must hav.

Thanks genius
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Lotus_ on June 22, 2013, 12:03:03 pm
Reason is because i dont wanna get into a internet argument over a game lol i have a life but because you wish to know why here are my reasons
rocketeers gotta be tough. A normal one im not talking about crit builds there easy to kill.
In town control and pvp in reno or wot ever, rocketeers are important and have a good role. Its always good to have them in team, push enemy back do alot of splash damage exactra, anyways they need to be tanks, and to be able to resist sniper attacks, this is why during tc u always see a tank rocketeer with the sniper team. Stonewall with luck prevents knockdowns meaning u survive longer, fast reload waste of perk in real time, if ur a sniper fighting rockteer without stonewall there fucked
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: greenthumb on June 22, 2013, 12:26:27 pm
I see your point, but at least its good to realize Bonus Rate of Fire is 2 times worse than Fast Reload, for rockeeter in RT. Playing without both of them would significantly decrease rate of fire IMHO (10 AP per  1 launched rocket...). So i believe it is significant reason too.

Iam not sure what realy does Stonewall halves, but if those are chance to get all KB/KD/KO  then its quite useful perk, still any KO in fight will most likely cost you your life. In this case might save you only Quick Recovery.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Lotus_ on June 22, 2013, 03:47:52 pm
But i said to take bonus rate ofire just dont take fast reload, i also said takee all drugs, rocket launcher builds aint ment for solo actions, ment for a team, rocket launchers always get targetted first, while hes super stimming himself the others can focus on killing that enemy, this is another reason y u need the perks i mention. Rocket launchers are ment to be tanks period
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: greenthumb on June 22, 2013, 07:34:03 pm
But i said to take bonus rate ofire just dont take fast reload, ...

In case you gona take only one of BROF/FR perks, i would say counter statement: "Take fast reload, just dont take BROF"

Becouse
Bonus Rate of Fire is 2 times worse than Fast Reload, for rockeeter in RT...
... so BROF decrease total AP cost just by 1AP per shot+reload, while FR decrease total AP cost by 2APs per shot+reload!

Now i hope its clear, in other points i totaly agree with you(5drugs,tank).
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Furior on June 23, 2013, 03:55:45 am
rocket launchers always get targetted first
Sure... I have to shoot someone, i can choose between a tank who hit me for 80hp and knock me down or i can shoot any other guy who deliver more damage and its easier to kill. Who will be my targed? The first one ofc...

Fast Reload is a must have if you are a rocketeer. I dont really know about stonewall but ive tested quick recovery and its very useful. I think its a viable opcion if you are not going to take stonewall. (Im not saying that QR is better than Stonewall, i dont know about that) QR "nerf" knock outs in a 66%, Stonewall help you avoiding them in a 50%.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Enzotainment on June 23, 2013, 09:04:14 pm
On this last day of x-mas, I'll share me experience with stonewall:

I took it on my flamer build with 10 str and 10 end together with quick recovery, as my big fear is HH builds. I still got lots of knockdowns, which was a huge dissapointment. Although, I was able to escape sometimes after being hit. I remade without stonewall now, so if you see me in ghost town, go for the KO shots ;-)

/edit: Or just be my ally, as I rarely shoot first (yes, I'm that kind of wuss).
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Kascin on June 23, 2013, 11:00:59 pm
I studied a little Stonewall with rockets.

Rockets have a natural knockback effect: this put you down and step back for few hexes.

Without Stonewall (when you take a rocket) you step back for maybe 4 or 5 hexes.
With Stonewall you don't step back or only for 1 hex.

Stonewall can be interesting for a rocket-launcher because you stand up faster.
But without Stonewall the step back may put you out of the range of the rocket-launcher who is targetting you.

But I admit it's quite impressive to see you character getting hit by a rocket, going down and standing up immediately thanks to Stonewall.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Daryl on June 23, 2013, 11:08:09 pm
WELL GAME HAS ENDED NOW SO :(
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 23, 2013, 11:54:33 pm
WELL GAME HAS ENDED NOW SO :(
Never did make it.
Too many bullshit posts,didn't feel like it.

Borrowed a PvP char from a friend instead.
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Daryl on June 23, 2013, 11:59:28 pm
haha, :P nevermind , atleast people tryed to help , everyone jsut has differnt playing styles and thats why everyone was arguing , but i think this builds just worked for them anyways
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: greenthumb on June 24, 2013, 12:05:11 am
WELL GAME HAS ENDED NOW SO :(

but we will never forget, and...

http://www.nitue.net/

is still alive!
Title: Re: Need a RL PVP build
Post by: Daryl on June 24, 2013, 12:06:53 am
hehe, yup.