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Title: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Haraldx on January 18, 2015, 03:44:35 pm
So, been kinda bored lately and have been wondering about getting back into FOnline. Then I noticed all the servers. Can anyone provide me with any insight on how they actually differ? I've heard a lot of servers don't have combat running enabled and stuff, but honestly researching all of this information is kind of a pain without actually playing. So, can anyone summarize the current servers that are like the old 2238, what's they key differences, etc.?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on January 18, 2015, 08:05:36 pm
http://fodev.net/status/

I would like to suggest you play Reloaded because it based on good old 2238 with a lot of improvements, fixes and much more updates. The next interesting server is AoP which is totally different server, many changes to gameplay, weapons, mechanics etc.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Haraldx on January 18, 2015, 09:56:28 pm
AoP kind of grabbed my attention from the few minutes of videos I saw. What's the general premise? More RPG-ish FOnline or is PvP still the main meat? Some of the features looked pretty juicy tho!

Regarding Reloaded and stuff. The thing I'm most confused about is that there's like 3 servers with the same premise, which is "Like 2238 but better!". Reloaded, FOnline 2 seem to be based around the same thing, let alone the projects that have yet to make any progress with the same idea (and hopefully they never do for reasons). Then there's TLA MKII which, albeit never have played TLA, seems to be fairly similar in some regards as well.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on January 18, 2015, 10:03:00 pm
Reloaded is based on orginal 223 stuff where fonline2 is different because it is modified tla you can feel it. Personally I prefer Reloaded because it... is 2238.

About AoP check their website and youtube channels or whatever they have.

http://fonline-aop.net/
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Wire on January 18, 2015, 10:51:01 pm
Fastest way of looking up differences would be going to irc and asking questions there.
The only server I checked since 2238 was FOnline2, and that left bad taste in my mouth. Blame the wannabe mmorpg themepark angle they pursuing.
Supposedly the long ass name Ashes of Phoenix has a well developed pvp and combat mechanics, but that's just what I heard.
And Reloaded is for the people whom want to suffer through 2238 problems yet again.
There are few other less well known servers as well, but I know nothing about those.

None of servers really grab my attention as of yet.

If you are looking for RPGish experience, I don't know if you'll manage to find it on any of the servers.
All of them (servers) suffer from one problem or another, be it wannabe WoW themepark, mindless pursuit of pvp angle, simple lack of content or a bullshit systems enforced on players.

But as I said, go ask on irc channels, to each his own.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on January 19, 2015, 11:03:28 am
And Reloaded is for the people whom want to suffer through 2238 problems yet again.

What problems? I don't see any problems from old 2238 in reloaded, everything was fixed and the game finally is not too much time consuming or annoying.

If you can't find perfect RPG you can wait for hexer's Van Buren.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: T-888 on January 20, 2015, 09:13:33 pm
Blame the wannabe mmorpg themepark angle they pursuing.

Oh, please. The game simply takes a more popular stand and is actually to some extent, becoming player friendly in terms of game-play. The server doesn't try to re-invent the wheel in a hipster fashion trying to make everything SO very unique (although the server stands out with their own unique solutions for convenient and fun game-play), but takes the proven values and the community requested suggestions to actually make it a better game. The server has basically appealed to players from just about all the communities so far.

That's progress.

FOnline 2 seem to be based around the same thing, let alone the projects that have yet to make any progress with the same idea (and hopefully they never do for reasons).

It's nothing remotely even close to 2238 or any of the other servers, except some copy paste dialogues from 2238 source.

Everything is custom made, the server was pretty much made from scratch. So it ain't no clone of any sort, this nonsense I heard when the FOnline2 was first announced. If I hear it now, there's something wrong with the player providing the same crap again.

Try FOnline2, you will not regret it. Just go read a couple of change-logs, maybe just the recent Wipe change-log here. (http://forum.fonline2.com/index.php?topic=7410.0) The topic also shows changes done in the previous Wipe. If that doesn't grab your attention, I assure you that nothing will.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Perteks on January 22, 2015, 11:09:57 am
Right now there is no good server to play.

Reloaded is in some way repaired 2238
Fonline 2, it's good but that progress stuff is just no fun and irritating, right now any interesting quest are blocked (yeah working content is blocked ) and oh that drama now :D because of that progression shit there is clearly more powerfull builds of others, previous session was better in my opinion
TLA mk2 most content from all of servers but if you want pvp uhh then you gonna need to have russian mindset waves of alt throwing at you till you drown in bodies, they throw out new content regulary fixes mechanic or quests, no runing not sure about balance of weapons now, and 90% community if not more is rus
Requiem, requiem is requiem you want pvp nonstop go there but learn rus as fast as you can ;p
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Koniko on January 22, 2015, 07:03:32 pm
Right now there is no good server to play.

Reloaded is in some way repaired 2238
Fonline 2, it's good but that progress stuff is just no fun and irritating, right now any interesting quest are blocked (yeah working content is blocked ) and oh that drama now :D because of that progression shit there is clearly more powerfull builds of others, previous session was better in my opinion
TLA mk2 most content from all of servers but if you want pvp uhh then you gonna need to have russian mindset waves of alt throwing at you till you drown in bodies, they throw out new content regulary fixes mechanic or quests, no runing not sure about balance of weapons now, and 90% community if not more is rus
Requiem, requiem is requiem you want pvp nonstop go there but learn rus as fast as you can ;p

I agree with what Perteks said. But in my opinion only thing that makes FO2 special is that it has those 50 more players on statistics than others. FOnline Reloaded in my opinion is currently best server for european players that like running in combat. Regarding russian developed servers I highly recommend starting your "adveture" with TLA and some friends. You won't be accepted to any bigger faction right away from joining, I know it from my own expirience of 2 years on TLA. Later on when u learn about walking in combat and basic camp/fight mechanics then I suggest going to Requiem / Goon Haven. People u see on stats (http://fodev.net/status/) are 100% players that now fight in some town - either for control or for nonstop gop. TLA may be harsh at begining as u will die from accualy.. everything and all the players would like u dead.. if u need help u can PM me I'll be happy to provide some. I currently play on Requiem and Reloaded but I also have characters and contacts with people on other servers.

Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Perteks on January 23, 2015, 11:58:02 pm
Tla gonna be closed
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on January 24, 2015, 01:11:55 am
Reloaded - Enhanced version of 2238

FO2 - a huge grind fest, I honestly don't like it but only place to get some action. 15 AP +, 5 AP burst, people running faster than flash...meh...and the GL .exe is crap

AoP - amazing PvP server, super fun if there are 20 vs 20 battles. Sadly player base is low and not many players on. One thing I do hate is having to join a premade faction and being forced to play with unknown players.

I played TLA for about a day, wasn't my cup of tea  :-X

I honestly wish 2238 came back, or another version of it...where all players are on one server again so FOnline player numbers can be decent throughout the day (like a constant 100+)
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on January 24, 2015, 10:08:28 pm
Tla gonna be closed

Why?
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Dagnir on January 24, 2015, 11:16:18 pm
Tla gonna be closed
It's not certain yet.
Why?
"Too many humans, not enough space or resources to go around. The details are trivial and pointless, the reasons, as always, purely human ones."
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Perteks on January 25, 2015, 08:37:36 pm
I hope not, I always liked how much content that server had (outside that weapon balance was shitty :D not sure how its look now)
But it was something what I liked to come back to make those quests and pwn some guys(Till they drown me in bodies)
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on January 26, 2015, 11:35:17 am
Why guys are you going to close server? Don't do it because it's awesome server.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Wipe on January 26, 2015, 08:04:18 pm
I honestly wish 2238 came back, or another version of it
Reloaded - Enhanced version of 2238
Your wish is in! ;)
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Lexx on January 26, 2015, 09:09:00 pm
Wish someone would make a FOnline coop game for 2 to 4 player- that is more focused on story and tactical combat, instead of yet another MMO.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: John Porno on January 27, 2015, 02:25:22 am
Wish someone would make a FOnline coop game for 2 to 4 player- that is more focused on story and tactical combat, instead of yet another MMO.
been a couple of years since you've said that first, anything put towards it yet?
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Lexx on January 27, 2015, 05:15:32 am
Not that I know. It seems nobody is interested in that.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: raynor009 on January 27, 2015, 11:23:05 am
I started playing on Reloaded 2 weeks ago, and it was very easy to pick up and start playing since its basically 2238 at core. It's super easy to get items, they've even added a rape-free town where you can't get bursted to death by players or have your items stolen from your inventory. But the PvP part seems a bit unbalanced IMO. There are implants for special stats, various damage resistance and hp + Power Armor and Hardened Power Armor which from what I've been told you can only get them from TC lockers from a few other locations filled with NPC's ready to kill you. There are also people with level 200 and PA running around with all skills maxed out and all implants which are very hard to confront with. I personally dislike the idea of PA and implants at the same time. Either put implants or PA. Or make PA craftable. Other than that, same old problems, people who have been playing since the session start are millionaires, you got your usual NCR..eh Hub rtards. But it's still nice to get back into it after almost 2 years. I personally find enjoyment in crafting :).

Oh and.. :P.. KILGORE GIVES FREE SKINS :P :D
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on January 27, 2015, 11:59:00 am
I started playing on Reloaded 2 weeks ago, and it was very easy to pick up and start playing since its basically 2238 at core. It's super easy to get items, they've even added a rape-free town where you can't get bursted to death by players or have your items stolen from your inventory. But the PvP part seems a bit unbalanced IMO. There are implants for special stats, various damage resistance and hp + Power Armor and Hardened Power Armor which from what I've been told you can only get them from TC lockers from a few other locations filled with NPC's ready to kill you. There are also people with level 200 and PA running around with all skills maxed out and all implants which are very hard to confront with. I personally dislike the idea of PA and implants at the same time. Either put implants or PA. Or make PA craftable. Other than that, same old problems, people who have been playing since the session start are millionaires, you got your usual NCR..eh Hub rtards. But it's still nice to get back into it after almost 2 years. I personally find enjoyment in crafting :).

Oh and.. :P.. KILGORE GIVES FREE SKINS :P :D

There was no wipe since few months so people easily got pa, implants, lvls etc.

Not that I know. It seems nobody is interested in that.

Why you dont start coding? You are great fallout & fonline moder so...
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: John Porno on January 27, 2015, 01:52:23 pm
Why you dont start coding? You are great fallout & fonline moder so...
yeah, this is actually what I was on about as well.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Lexx on January 27, 2015, 02:16:26 pm
My AngelScript skills are too low and it is hard to find people who want to contribute to such a project. Besides, since fo2238 I feel very burned out from everything Fallout. It will probably take a long time till I start doing anything for it again.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Wire on January 27, 2015, 07:38:18 pm
There are plenty of people interested in making coop FOnline.
And that's basically the problem, people are interested, but not interested enough to cooperate with each other to make something.
Not yet anyhow.

Soon, perhaps, things will change.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: raynor009 on January 27, 2015, 08:06:31 pm
Its not that they are not interested enough in cooperating to make a game. Its that the lack of documentation, programming skills and time. Ye ye its all great and exciting in the first two days then we become fat and lazy  :P. Maybe when FO Van Burren will be out someone will make a CO-OP script or something like that who knows :/
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: JovankaB on January 27, 2015, 09:17:06 pm
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Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: raynor009 on January 27, 2015, 09:47:34 pm
"Soon" is short for 2 years or more in FOnline language right :P
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Perteks on January 27, 2015, 11:10:19 pm
OMNOMNOMNOM
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on January 28, 2015, 12:31:00 pm
let's make open source fonline coop project or crowdfunding.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: devis on January 28, 2015, 10:30:47 pm
Ok but let me lead the project, I have great idea.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: JovankaB on January 29, 2015, 05:27:43 am
Fonliner was first, he should be the leader. You can be idea man.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Lexx on January 29, 2015, 08:12:56 am
Ok, you got the leader man and the idea man. Now you just need the actual work men and this thing is pretty much done.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on January 29, 2015, 11:21:40 am
I am going make crowdfunding project and obsidian + fargo + fans + bethesda cash = profit!!1

I said for fun, actually fonline community is lazy (me too) and get flash in the pan for creating something more unique.

What remains - dead
The Tangut Prophecy - dead
Van buren - ?
Vault 112 - dead
Australia - dead
Arcanum - ?
Last hope - ?
Roleplay - ?
Wasteland 2155 - dead


Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: John Porno on January 29, 2015, 12:43:41 pm
cash is the least of the problems
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: raynor009 on January 29, 2015, 01:04:05 pm
tangut is dead???? Whaaaaaaaaatttt? I had high hopes for that.. :(
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on January 29, 2015, 01:27:50 pm
tangut is dead???? Whaaaaaaaaatttt? I had high hopes for that.. :(

Yes, read last posts http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/the-tangut-prophecy-fonline-rpg-historical-fiction-12th-century-china.80544/
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: devis on January 29, 2015, 08:55:07 pm
Ok here's the million dollar idea. Purely pve, pre-nuke, and it takes place in china, players play as america at begin of war. We do world map like it's x-com, players deploy from base in groups to random objectives on world map. You jump in and turn based combat starts where half your squadmates are perma-killed, you manage to flee alone, return alone to base and cry in room and suffer PTSD.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: raynor009 on January 30, 2015, 01:55:00 pm
I had an idea a long time ago for a FO based game(not online) where you get to play in before the war and the destruction of the entire world. Like the game would be set in chapters and a the story would be linked to the events of Fallout 1, well the game would actually end when the Fallout 1 story begins. But because it would require a ton of new graphics it never made it past the dream land :P. But it would be cool if we could band together and create something like this.

A few few issues that I see with this idea is:

Traveling on the world map now would require a car or some sort of public transport, since this is a modern world you can just walk on foot from L.A to San Fran. Also the world map would need to be huge with many locations, so that it doesn't get too repetitive quick. Then we would need a back story for the player. Who is he? What does he do? How is he involved with the events that destroyed the entire planet? Does he get to die in the end? Or will he manage to make it inside Vault 13 before the armageddon begins.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: umaksharmoota on January 30, 2015, 07:42:44 pm
I think this thread dont do justice to fonline 2. It's the best one right now; It's not tla clone, they start from fresh SDK. It has the most players. It has the most content. I have played TLA, reloladed, 2238 and AOP and fonline 2 is best in my opinion, by far. Some of the comments in here are just plain BS, especially ones made by S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

If you are overwhelmed with the servers, try the most active one  (and in my opinon, most fun and best overall) first: fonline 2.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Koniko on January 30, 2015, 10:38:53 pm
Fooline 2 is full of drama, trolloaded and tla empty, requiem and goo haven is russian. You won't find any meaning anwser on this forums. Choose yourself.

Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: raynor009 on January 30, 2015, 11:55:22 pm
I think this thread dont do justice to fonline 2. It's the best one right now; It's not tla clone, they start from fresh SDK. It has the most players. It has the most content. I have played TLA, reloladed, 2238 and AOP and fonline 2 is best in my opinion, by far. Some of the comments in here are just plain BS, especially ones made by S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

If you are overwhelmed with the servers, try the most active one  (and in my opinon, most fun and best overall) first: fonline 2.

To each his own. You like FO2, I like reloaded, others don't like anything.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: umaksharmoota on January 31, 2015, 02:03:49 am
Yes that's fair enough Jim. I just got set off by stalker

FO2 - a huge grind fest, I honestly don't like it but only place to get some action. 15 AP +, 5 AP burst, people running faster than flash...meh...and the GL .exe is crap


Huge grind fest? You can reach softcap in a few hours no problem

15ap 5 ap burst? Don't even know what he's trying to say (and 15 isn't the max)

GL exe is crap? What does this mean? It didn't work for him I guess? Works fine for me

Truth is OP should try all active servers, or look at their changelogs at least. But if they can't handle trying all then just pick one and go for it.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on January 31, 2015, 03:14:55 pm
GL exe is crap? What does this mean? It didn't work for him I guess? Works fine for me

Unoptimized and lagging as hell. Maybe not gl itself but maps, game are lagging while other servers work fine.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Koniko on February 02, 2015, 01:38:02 am
Tt depends on server. On Requiem I prefer D3D - it gives smoother gameplay and more FPS and no sudden lags but it is completly diffrent with Reloaded where OGL does it better..

About Arcanum it is still in slow development by Tab10id and MEXAHOTABOP. Roleplay and TNF are shutdown,  Australia has already final version and its creator is making a new post-apocalyptic zombie game.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Voiddweller on June 12, 2015, 08:26:56 pm
Ashes of Phoenix is a most promising one. A fun with blackjack, hookers and fireworks XD
And i just asked MEXAHOTABOP about Arcanum, and he was not very enthusiastic about any development in near future.
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: fonliner on June 17, 2015, 12:57:10 pm
Yes Ashes of Phoenix is nice server but empty...

Arcanum? Is it still developed?
Title: Re: Let's presume I want to play some FOnline... OH GOD THE SERVERS
Post by: Koniko on June 19, 2015, 06:30:37 pm
Yes Ashes of Phoenix is nice server but empty...

Arcanum? Is it still developed?

Arcanum development is paused lets say. Only one or two devs remain and they don't have much time to spare uppon project.