Do you have new a world map ? :)Yes, it has new worldmap. Don't you see it? ;P
Also we need people that can make and talk about suggestions...
Hey, I am good for that ! I am also an expert introllingtesting builds, and this server really sounds interesting. I think I gonna give it a try, at least before wipe.
How can we test it? Not even closed alpha yet? ;p
so far looks cool, where we can find more info? (forum, server info... etc..? page u posted its kinda useless to join.. only screenshots and videos so.. :/)
A Fallout not being in the USA sounds a bit worriesome for me at first glance, but let's see what you make out of it. Surely the architect or roaddesigner in prewartimes must've been a rich man, seeing his building style or road-design all over the world. :P Anyway, best of luck for your project. :)Thx, but now this is not only my project :P
Nitpicking: Is there a reason that there is "North Sea" twice on the worldmap?
Well if you ever need any help with dialogue just give me a shout. I've got a National Diploma in Performing Arts which includes script writing. Definitely an interesting project.-write on mail desert.europe<#>gmail.com
We do not work with children. Tell that to your mom.
posting such crap isn't a good start. No matter how good project is, you won't find a people willing to work with you that way.
How do you combine mutants, brotherhood and enclave in Europe? In Fallout bible there aren't anything about Europe status and these factions. Good luck with your project.This sentence alone actually makes Fallout in Europe, there is no lore related to it, so it is free game for people looking to make their own indie games, with a totally different plot, without restrictions by "lore".
This sentence alone actually makes Fallout in Europe, there is no lore related to it, so it is free game for people looking to make their own indie games, with a totally different plot, without restrictions by "lore".i believe that the reason for Chris Avellone to make the Fallout Bible, and the reason to do a Fallout history-based game is to create a whole new history with the Fallout style and let your imagination go anywhere you want.
This sentence alone actually makes Fallout in Europe, there is no lore related to it, so it is free game for people looking to make their own indie games, with a totally different plot, without restrictions by "lore".
To do:
23 Cities, NPCs, dialogs
This is why we will never see this project finished.
This is why we will never see this project finished.Manero, if you want to troll , troll your mother please but not at this topic ,I already made 15 maps in 2,5 weeks.
Manero, if you want to troll , troll your mother please but not at this topic ,I already made 15 maps in 2,5 weeks.
A lot of people can make a lot of map in short time. But, you must admit that quality is more important ... And by the way, i agree with Manero at this point
A lot of people can make a lot of map in short time. But, you must admit that quality is more important ... And by the way, i agree with Manero at this pointIf you know how to make good map in short time ,there´s no problem in this.
Project is in progress. In this moment I do not have many time to read forum(to many scripts to write). We have new representativ of project (with much better english language like my). Some information on our site(fode.temote.tk).forum is not so friendly, users must prove e-mail before enter forum. i suggest make it more friendly (no posts before mail confirmation).
He will writes later some informations on forum.
forum is not so friendly, users must prove e-mail before enter forum. i suggest make it more friendly (no posts before mail confirmation).Yes, it's because forum is not open yet (and won't be for long time as I hope...) For now even if you register on forum you won't see anything :>
Yes, it's because forum is not open yet (and won't be for long time as I hope...) For now even if you register on forum you won't see anything :>its really friendly and good. this gonna make no pointless suggestion at forum(because its alot trolls gonna look at forum), no bad stuff gonna come to game, and only chosen people with best and right opinions gonna make perfect game. ;)
And btw, email confirmation will be always.
We do not work with children. Tell that to your mom.and this is speech from main developer or representator at this forum... if this edited by graf - this was very hostile before...
and this is speech from main developer or representator at this forum... if this edited by graf - this was very hostile before...We dont want to scary people or make them to stop helping this project.Just we are angry on those "people" who want to join and then they just say "I´m leaving because you didn´t sent me a pm .
its really friendly and good. this gonna make no pointless suggestion at forum(because its alot trolls gonna look at forum), no bad stuff gonna come to game, and only chosen people with best and right opinions gonna make perfect game. ;)"Email activation" is not "Admin activation". It will be always to prevent spambots and force users to login to their mail ;P
i hope all screen shots is just like *sketch* or show possible way of ALOT weapon. because images quality and stuff looks small small bit wrong. (sport car, alot armor, buildings architecture, very big map((in fo2 its just california)) and alot other features) - if this is just *sketch* i m sorry alot.
and this is speech from main developer or representator at this forum... if this edited by graf - this was very hostile before...Of course, if I get on priv lot of messages and total spam, how can I respond differently to such a person?
Just an interesting tidbit, your website's name "fodeblog.temote.tk" has the word 'fode" which means fuck in Portuguese (ele fode, he fucks). It sounds like fuckblog.temote.tk ;DHm.. nice :) If it really means this I can do redirect also from "fuckblog.temote.tk" on "fodeblog.temote.tk" :D
News on the blog -with new adress btw- :
http://fode.eu/
We have decided to delete Turn-Based mode entirely
Yeah, travelling across the atlantic ocean is a piece of cake, especially in postapocalyptia.Its sure easier than to fly with vertibird
keep it in-game
You guys are going 3d, or want to make all those armors in 2d(Or just recolouring)?
We'll keep the good old ones. But in fact, we'll probably need to use some 3D models anyway for critters and other things.
Yes, it will be only (or I'm wrong, but I don't think so) 2D. 3D models will be of course, because it's too hard to make everything in 2D from scratch, but it will be rendered to 2D, you won't see difference :)Will you use Karpov's hero model?
Will you use Karpov's hero model?They said they are going to use 2d, and since there's a 2d character model ingame already, I'm guessing they won't waste time on rendering Karpov's model into 2d... No point in that.
Yes, it has new worldmap. Don't you see it? ;P
(http://a.yfrog.com/img580/6894/mapa2c.jpg)
Is this 1:1 scale? That's like 10 times the area of Fallout 1+2...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_ezma3nbw
No we didnt took anything from this project , Ras did it by himself.No, this based on very good Lexx picture(if i have good informations).
No, this based on very good Lexx picture(if i have good informations).
Yes but please don't say it made by your workers. I have nothing against borrowing scenery from mods but should be given to who is author of graphics and how you get them.Barter ,what is your problem .Did you made those sceneries? If yes then sorry , if no then why you are trolling it.Its not your problem.
Later, people think that you're the authors of graphics. ::)
Surf: No problem, I browse NMA forums for some time, necessarily modding forum. There're lots of that kind arts.
Barter ,what is your problem .Did you made those sceneries? If yes then sorry , if no then why you are trolling it.Its not your problem.
Btw.I was wrong I had bad informations so because I said that RAS made it...
How would you feel if someone took something you did and said all players, it's your?
Project is not over yet... btw.
Have something that we took from you ? Or are you in relation with someone complaining about that ?
Have something that we took from you ? Or are you in relation with someone complaining about that ?
As you see a lot of people learn about your game throughout this forum, just put a small list of credits of guys who did XY on the first post of the thread here. Done. Or just ask the people you are taking the stuff from before you import it in the first place. Note, this is not bitching, just trying to avoid similar posts in the future.
FOR: FO: Desert Europe
I have 1 Question. Do you ask creators of new graphics that you use in you client or you just steal all what you want? I know - many things is free for use but not all and you have realy many new graphic in client.
Merged /Wipe
As you see a lot of people learn about your game throughout this forum, just put a small list of credits of guys who did XY on the first post of the thread here. Done. Or just ask the people you are taking the stuff from before you import it in the first place. Note, this is not bitching, just trying to avoid similar posts in the future.
Music
Mark Morgan
1) Will be FO:DE more focused on lone players or teams (gangs). I mean if you will implement more variations on Town Control?
...3) What about country locations (Prague, or simply, czech republic.). Would there be possible to upload you some place signs, or graphics with czech (-oslovakia) motivs, if you arleady dont have this integrated?
I like your idea of tactical energetic weapons. Hope that weapons would be more balanced than on 2238. It is good to have wide scale of weapons, but if you usualy use only 1/5 of all types in PvP, you realy dont need others.
Any Ability to Join? Sounds Interesting and Promising, I wait excited...What you mean?Do you want to join on server or join our community?
What you mean?Do you want to join on server or join our community?Both, if it's possible. I've got a new Job so I have much Time to spend (but not much to spend time with...).
Mush : there is already a FOnline Project called Last Hope, isn't it ? :p I've been told you tested it. How was it ?
is it open project still ?
I have been fired from the project since I didnt want to copy 2238, which was in fact their idea since the beginning (oh, no, sorry, "2238 but better"). We'll see if my mates which have the same feeling of humiliation decide to leave as well. Maybe we'll try to make a new project from scratch.
If we don't, we'll release all our features for 2238 team, so they can use it if they want. If they don't, we'll release it to everyone else.
His part of job can give to 2238,thats his choice,but giving work from any our people like scripts will end with the trial court on charges of theft of property not for 2238, but for Shangalar.
Shangalar isn´t important person on this moment and almost nobody from Desert Europe team won´t discuss with him.
[...]
every technical things were made by Polish team,maps have been done also by our great mappers(Poland, Hungarian, Slovakia).
I'm glad nobody important leaved.Shangalar was very important person for project.
Keep up the freedom oriented work, we all need it.
Shangalar isn´t important person on this moment
Shangalar was very important person for project
When he was in project- he was very important person.
What i dont understand?
how big maps ?
I didn't knew that 2238 is abandoned. Thanks for the information, though.
you are welcome man!
maybe not officaly, but its looks abandoned from perspective of regular players. you still wroking on it on your free time? or you totaly left form developing 2238? we all know you guys dont have much time for 2238 but will be nice to inform community what you created - what is going on. its not that hard, thought.
I agree on the other posts though, I don't think that such drama here is neccesary, if team members or ex team members of DE want to discuss such things (which most of the times never ends good) wouldn't it be better to do that through PM?Or on our internal forum, but we already discussed about it, so other talk is pointless, you have right.
btw. how looks field of view on your server ? i hope its not a copy of 2238, this FOV is really bad for fonline
I didn't knew that 2238 is abandoned. Thanks for the information, though.It was abandoned from 2 or 3 wipe...Just we had false hope in you.
It was abandoned from 2 or 3 wipe...Just we had false hope in you.
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=17245.msg150649#msg150649
It was abandoned from 2 or 3 wipe...Just we had false hope in you.
Personally I would say look at the 3d development forum I don't think it would be still continued if Fonline would be abandone also why would have been a change to the gathering system if its abandoned it wouldn't make any sense."Personally" I think its useless because most people think that when 3D comes it wont be longer FOnline based on Fallout 1 and 2
People sometimes have hard time and can't do as many things as they want...
"Personally" I think its useless because most people think that when 3D comes it wont be longer FOnline based on Fallout 1 and 2
Thats my point of view.
Any news on FO:DE? Got anything new thats particularly cool to show off?
"Personally" I think its useless because most people think that when 3D comes it wont be longer FOnline based on Fallout 1 and 2
Thats my point of view.
Ohhhhh..... 3D is very good and NOT USELESS because you can make fallout 3D with using models made from community. Why people hate? Community make something new, what can be used in OTHER projects and games it is good for all. Its better than do nothing and writing useless posts :-\ like you and mine :-\Useless,only for you,for my its 3D is shit.Its not only my point of view...
Ohhhhh..... 3D is very good and NOT USELESS because you can make fallout 3D with using models made from community. Why people hate? Community make something new, what can be used in OTHER projects and games it is good for all. Its better than do nothing and writing useless posts :-\ like you and mine :-\
Maybe in the future enlarge the map to the south. For now we concentrate on this outline.Sorry If your developers don't know but GB was sunk in Fallout Universe...(Search for info in Fallout Bible or Fallout game).
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5379/relieftla.png)
Sorry If your developers don't know but GB was sunk in Fallout Universe...(Search for info in Fallout Bible or Fallout game).Tomo,you have hardly failed,we are prepared...We are making storyline and whole background with care.We wont do anything without original Fallout storyline.
Useless,only for you,for my its 3D is shit.Its not only my point of view...It's only your point of view because you spec comp is too old right? :D Why do you hate other people who MADE GREAT WORK. You do not nothing and it is your problem, not mine. "In my point of view you are shit and its not only my point of view". So please shut up if you dont like them, dont HATE.
Glad that in DE wont be any 3D models based on these ones.
Yeh maybe not useless but i u wanan make 3D,make a new servar as "Fonline 3D" or somethin else like this.This is based on Fallout 1,2 engine right?So i still dont see why is 3D so necessary.Fonline 2238 and tla server are not fallout 1 and 2. Fallout 1 and 2 is quests, great storyline games for singplepalyer mode and many, many, many hours of playing. Sorry but it is other game not a Fallout 1 or 2.
Just saying "it's shit" won't be much use to us
It's only your point of view because you spec comp is too old right? :D Why do you hate other people who MADE GREAT WORK. You do not nothing and it is your problem, not mine. "In my point of view you are shit and its not only my point of view". So please shut up if you dont like them, dont HATE.If you discriminate people with older PC, so you are pathetic. And about doing nothing, he isn't 3D graphic, but mapper, after we will release OBT you'll can see if he "do nothing" or not.
Everyone who is saying 'it's shit' to such tremendous undertaking which the 3D stuff is, must be out of his mind.Right, just it's matter of graphic skill of FO2238 community :) It even look like normal 2D models with such effects, etc.
I didn't faild I just said it may or its true.Our work, our choice - that's all from my site.
I forgot where I read that but it was proven. (Dunno why it isnt on fallout wiki).
And if its your own storyline - then good luck!
For now, we have FoV system activated, and it's not bad for MMO game. In Fallout yes, there were no FoV and it was good, because you didn't have to search npc. In MMO it's not really needed, and it adds some.. Tactics to make? I can't write it correctly in english (poor me :( )
I like the interface that appeared at the end as I seen its kind of like a mobile faction terminal and crafting interface am I right?Yes You have right :-)
About graphical assets they look fitting and nicely done and the picture at the end looks real good I just went to the blog to check who draw it, nice work Cryo!Cryo, Ras and Kinkin are our great designers and leaders of project (everyone who is making good work is a one of leaders:-D).
Great video. I really wait i can test again Desert Europe.
First one was great and i got even on youtube video :D
Aka Lighter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzRtQMbuoHk
14 more free slots to cbt. fode forum for more info?Obviously.
why dont you put any news? what do you make now? maps?
This looks like 3-4 unfitting different gamestyles thrown into one bunch.
I'm aware these are different locations. ::)
It has nothing to do wether a real city has "different styles" or not, it just doesn't look very homogen and lacks a coherent corporate eye. But it's your game and you seem to like it, so that's ok.
Oh fuck this maps are epic ! FAP FAP FAP.
@Surf better if you make your "what remains" than critic other people. Show us your maps, expert of fallout games ::)
" This looks like 3-4 unfitting different gamestyles thrown into one bunch. " Firs map is looking epic and all scenery fit so where do you see problem?
Probably will be only for NPC because all frames not exist and i think also will never rise.
Now complete is walk,run,dead,sg & unarmed.
And who created these graphics? :)
I have btw. not seen a single credits/downloadlink (Fallout modders stick together - my ass) in this thread so far, even though the stuff is of a-plenty of sources, yet, we see stuff posted appearing as if it would be the "Desert Europe" (lul) team doing these while all the ressources are freely available:
(http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57245&highlight=ec+pariws)
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1530/mabossaq2.gif)
See, I am not trying to flame here. But this is exactly the mindset of people "stealing" artworks, not caring for the sources and so on, the exact shit we have had some pages before. You haven't even mentionend your graphic sources and "stole" the stuff - while a simple credit/downloadlink would have helped everyone. It is simply a matter of respect, a word this team here seems to be incabale of.
As said, nevermind. I think this is a pretty cool project. But the stuff above is, well, the stuff above. :) Who's gonna take you serious besides with such stuff?
You are one of few persons, who did destroyed good atmosphere of the 2238 server.
(...)and 100x better respect for players. I fuck you, i fuck 2238 server, and sorry...
surf thnx for deleting my criticism post about 2238...good job!!! now ban me here
In case you haven't noticed I've removed some more posts, and your criticism is still here (look few posts above), even if it's OT.My prosition is close this topic.
Why so touchy?
I'm confused.
Someone must explain me how Surf - who is not developing 2238 - is making it impossible for you to have a good relationship to us.As dev I can not understand this situation of "Surfs answers", maby he want be 2238 dev.
@Statistic argument: Totally normal.
Running , shooting , reloading , talking - the ability to " hear "Silent running useful for more than just sneakers! Kickass.
The ability to notice , see players through walls and any kind of obstacles for a very short while if and when they are doing a certain action mentioned above and they are in your sound field of view what is increased by perception
The last screenshot is special place? It is look like Robinson Crusoe easter egg ;)
Well no doubt is great server they have:Much of this are old informations on forum, we have more maps (but not all are ready for obt).
...
...Xenom and other MACKO guys from FO:(x)DE...My old account :D
What is this, I don't evenThis is your forum.
What is this, I don't evenSPEECHLESS
drama ^^
I offer my legal services. I specialize in intellectual property law. Because of principle of lex loci protectionis, i exactly need to know, where hacked server was located. I will try to establish cooperation with local intellectual property lawyers, so we can maximalize our effort and give you best chance to win the case.
But i see potential problem. Local law enforcement could be inefficient, so i offer you that you can upload your copyright protected works to server located in my country, so after next violation, i will feel like a fish in water and you will save your money because of no need of multiple legal attorneys.
If you will try it, we will do a lawsuit against the developers of 2238 server or if he is not from your team than very sorry from my site, write to me on priv, and we will make personal lawsuit against him.
Sorry for spaming, but...We do not want to be affiliated with this situation, nor we want to participate in any legal action. That's serious.
Gob knowing as Raynor009 has 30 days to pay 250 euro donation for 2238 server.
OK, I got little bit tired about you confusing everyone with 2238 dev. Pro hint: check the Developer title that only devs have under their forum nicknames.Right, very sorry for this to all Your devs.
We do not want to be affiliated with this situation, nor we want to participate in any legal action. That's serious.Ok, we understand.
*** is right you do steal graphics atleast most of them...
Show me a list of "steel" graphic if you're so smart(http://pmpaspeakingofprecision.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/steel-in-rack.jpg)
Now that's a lot of steel, that's right.
Please continue, at last some entertainment here.
high definition elnglish, yeah :-D
LETS MAKE A LAW SUIT BECAUSE HE STOLE OUR STOLE MAPS THAT WE STOLE ALREADYOh another one that wants to have problems..Jeez
i exactly need to know, where hacked server was located.
I still find it hard to decide if I think this thread is funny, SCARRRY, or just stupid, but damn, polish folks are for sure entertaining!
Dont believe them. It is only viral advertising of their project :)
viewership increased ;) ...9180
viewership increased ;) ...9180IT'S OVER 9000
What is /b/? ::)Chan is the way of copy shit all across the universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan).
Chan is the way of copy shit all across the universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan).
Rule 1 and 2 roodypoos.
Gob knowing as Raynor009 has 30 days to pay 250 euro donation for 2238 server. If developers of 2238 will not send to me information about his donation payment (sorry for my non grammar english) to 10 january 2012, than we will start a lawsuit against Gob.(5000 euro compensation for charity organization.)
I mean it's not the usual trolol, but people speaking about going to trial because of FOnline, for fuck sake...I've heard about some dude looking for another one in real life, to kick his ass, due to robbed base or something. Fuck's sake, aye.
Ok, last question. do you want say "sorry" for that what did you make with our forum, here in topic, or want to have much problems? That is your choise, not our.
If you do not give any answer, than in 3 days we will give info to our police about our decision.
And if they are too stupid to manage their own forum that's their problem.If you killed or beat someone then it's his fault, because he wasn't protect himself properly?
"I can see his router configuration ;D" - this was janosik -> this also link to my conversation with him.Still I can't find this quote in your screenshot, I've never said, that I saw anything from your router, seems, you like to compromise yourself.
Seriously, who would play on a server where the dev could threaten you just because you found some... exploit ? That's beyond imagination.Ok, so vandalism, violation of privacy, conscious getting sensitive informations is ok for you? It doesn't matter if vandalism in kind of destroying bus stop, or like this raynor009 done - skiddie fun
Yes, it's all very real.Got them from the "restricted" section.
Note to FO DEV: You should work on your forum more.It was fun to look through your control panel and admin panel.Another thing I want to say.If you cunts attempt to enter my router or do anything I will fucking deface your forum and take your fucking host is that clear? Retarded cunts.Surf is right you do steal graphics atleast most of them .You should be banned from this forum. You manage to enter my router because I did not change password to it i left the default in case i forgot.No is not a problem I did change it.Just keep in mind with who are you fucking with.
And is not that I stole their maps as they claim I did, all I did was look through the topics and see some names nothing more.And some words more, nice lie, screenshot of Xenom shows perfectly what you've done - is changing whole boards to visible state "just look through" (if you look on children porn you would say as well "I was just looking"?), or rather vandalism?
And is not that I stole their maps as they claim I did, all I did was look through the topics and see some names nothing more.Oh, really? Don't you remember, what you've said? Only forum? Good one ;)
Listen to yourself kid lawsuit ahahah this is good joke.But better end this story and I say I am sorry is shouldn't have messed with your forum but curiosity killed the cat if you know what I mean. I do know who accessed my router and that person is from your team(i guess i should do lawsuit against you hahahahah) but I will not tell name nor do care as you can't do anything if you access it.
On the other hand....
I tryed your server a few hours ago. You did really good job with maps and graphics I even found some map bugs and I would be very happy to relay them to you via PM. And I got the SVN client link from forum history using goole and the host and port from server from some topic on your forum.I really like the worldmap alot but to be honest the City's are very very big you should divide them into areas.And about combat well with big guns I want to be able to shoot twice 7 AP is too much even with bonus rate of fire.I don't know about crafting what you did but I try to increase science and repair but nothing else appeared in fixboy....did you make proffessions? I also saw slots for "implants" and a third slot that was not usable what about those? Also encounter NPC's are overpowered and I notice another thing too when there is battle's they appear only for Scrappers City and Fury Town? Then the NPC's don't talk.....you still got alot to do till OBT make sure u finnish ^^
This thread is quite funny but it's also depressing, I think it has shown a bit of the worst side of this community. I mean it's not the usual trolol, but people speaking about going to trial because of FOnline, for fuck sake...
..In the end it doesn't matter..Yup. There is some peoples that are so selfish that don't think about anything even harm/broke other peoples materially valuable things..
I do not try to put you,your team and server in a bad light but..... you have problems.... This is all I had to say and will no be replying anything else to this topic. La revedere.
*** is right you do steal graphics atleast most of them...
This thread is the exact reflection of DE team inner situation : take a bit of stupidity, a bit of naivety, some dreams, some true skills and a lot of paranoia, and you got the exact picture, what you can see here.
Btw, nice screens. I hope you...thx...
LOL guys!We did taken always many negative opinions(when project beggining), players have too many right to my behaviorus :-D. I very thank for it becouse than i am working much, much f*** harder to make many things much better :-D
I have read all messages.... and I don't know what I should say... Team Desert Europe is going to make new server, new history with Fallout's universe, new gameplay system and fun and you are hating them because they use someone arts or critters. Why? Do you remember old Fallout's mods, do you remember Megamod where are a lot of mini mods from other authors? Do you hate Megamod for including map from X mod or graphic art from Y mod? Nope so why do you hate this guys for what? You want they not realase this server or what?
You always said 2238 is boring and no wipe, you want to have other server but why you hate new server that is still work in progress? I can't understand it. Instead of enjoying that someone devotes his time to the community that you are destroying him. Why?
You're jealous of that because you can't make something game like their? Get the fuck off!
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49812 Founded topic from No Mutants Allowed forum. It is modding section when you can make new graphics or arts for Fallout and use this in your project. This is good so why not use it in other game? Do you know they steal some item? Do you asked authors or what? OH MY GOOOOOOOOD!
To Desert Europe team,
Please complete your great game project and don't worry. I hope you do great server!
This all is just embarrassing ...that is not important, and normal for trolling...
This all is just embarrassing ...
I am honestly wondering why this thread's not locked yet.
This is mess. Xenom what the hell are you trying here? you are only ridiculing yourself, DE and DE dev team, stop this.Do you know other devs who can sometimes take more relax in their hard job, and make trolling, whatever with other people? I dont think, becouse dev must be... like batman :-D.
BTW, my avatar is stolen from internet, i used it even without asking author of it if i could. Anybody wanna sue me?
BTW, my avatar is stolen from internet, i used it even without asking author of it if i could. Anybody wanna sue me?
None of us want 2238 to die, but its killing itself. We know that lack of progress in any area of life is certain death. people these days are very demanding and get bored fast. My point is that we need a lot of content in game like the original Fallout had, unlike new games that are putting most of its power in graphic mumbo jumbo. Interesting and nice looking graphs are also important but we hove more then just one sense and curiosity is the strongest one so personally i want to explore something new and surprising as long as possible and its this little something that keeps me playing games. Im bored with all those "sailor moon" RPG's common in the net. Here we have something different with great potential and some great people who are sacrificing their own free time to make it real and to amuse others. Unlike Fallout, devs in Fonline are in small amount and basically cant do everything but in the same time they are close to most constructive criticism from community and suggestions. I think this is dead end that kills 2238. That's why i hope you guys developing DE wont get this silly attitude "Fonline/DE is my child, dont tell me how to raise it u dump shit! I know better coz i said so!!!" I imagine this all ain't easy and there is some tension, but maybe healthy competition between both dev's groups will be the push that will make move both projects into new future with benefit for simple trolls like me, who just wanna play and have some fun and feel part of something really cool.It is easy for me. If my team will be not able to make good solutions and give satisfaction for players, than all our work we will given for people who are able to continue this and are able to make everything much better.
I don't think that anyone of us sees this as competition. After all, developing the game is still just a hobby and not a project to gain fame. By the way, we listen a lot to criticism and suggestions and we read pretty much everything of it, regardless of how aggressive and insulting the poster is writing. Lots of things changed already due to players suggestions, I don't know why many people are dismissing this all the time.I'm not dismissing your effort in making game better, im aware its a hobby of yours and im really grateful u guys doing it. I don't look forward to V13 project coz i'm rather sure it wont meet my expectations as Fonline did. Still i wanna see it evolving. That's why i think about "healthy" competition. No overzealous crap or something. I'm new to Fonline, been reading through forum a lot now and playing since spring so im not really in position to point your mistakes, just express my feelings about it without hating coz it wont help anyone. U already know that people will always complain no matter what u do. I just putted a lot of hope in to Fonline and feel bit sad with player count dropping as it makes my fun bit lower then few months ago. Last Changelog is dated 07/03/2011 and there isnt much rumors about next one, not to mention famous wipe (i know u probably hate this word now ;)).
I think DE is more like an open project, because if it`s not and you demand some rights to it you have to figure out that with fallout owners, otherwise you stole their graphics, world, etc.
you dont try ???!!!
And what is this? and where is this topic? Who delete him? is it ok?
...This is all what you want to say? oh... it's a pity because I am still waiting for that list from you.
You and Mr. "X" drove this trooll machine and we are so stupid that we are caught up into this talk.
But thanks, because I learned that for some comments write-off is waste of time and this time I could spend on something more useful. Patience I will be learned from 2238 developers ;)
You dont sit with us on mumble and you have no idea what we have relationships.
So please do not drives another nonsens topic...
thx...
I guess the major assumption is that, that everyone runs as bluesuit with rock. If you are nolife you can have PA.
``About rock, Einstein got theory about post nuclear war ;)``
Are you suggesting that American can have plasma rifles after nuclear war but in Europe engineers could only remember how to throw a rock? :)
Maybe if the nuclear war happened when Einstein has been living. Now it`s different time and different kind of storage knowledge;P
How to join into cbt ?I think they already taken peoples inside CBT and already started it.. don't know.
I think they already taken peoples inside CBT and already started it.. don't know.
But that how I see CBT.
Obt will to be or wont to be ? Do you need programmers ?
You only need to add content, a game isn't only about script. FODE need a lot of dialog and quest .. now you already have a lot of script that already works but no dialog or quest to "activate them". Even if some script have little bug or isn't 100% complete they have to be introduce by dialog for players (and not activate by gm or found in "beta test map = old armory). I think you already have awesome map and script, you need dialog and quest and dialog and more quest and more dialog.
And dialog. (and quest)
Janosik is still FO:DE developer?No, I'm not developer from a long time, I was just maintainer/administrator/hoster of Desert Europe servers (sites, svn repositories, game server, voice server, etc), but because of some guy, who can't stand criticism even if he was wrong, I was "expelled" from "team". However I didn't got any words (maybe except some talk about calming and waiting for repairing it, seems, that it's impossible due of some stubborn guy) from psychically stable person from FODE team about what to do with domain and some sites hosted by me (blog, forum, wiki), I just got some offence, threats from another - not so stable one.
No, I'm not developer from a long time, I was just maintainer/administrator/hoster of Desert Europe servers (sites, svn repositories, game server, voice server, etc), but because of some guy, who can't stand criticism even if he was wrong, I was "expelled" from "team".
Nice idea but there you propably don't get any help, because people (not all but most) can only insult and troll. Go to RPG Codex or NMA.
New FODE will be open sourceOpen source mechanics/dialogs/quests is bad idea.
ras and demonek. stop acting like spoiled kids and if you are going to do my own "fode" it will be big fail like fot.
please "skonczcie z porownywaniem kutasow i zacznijcie cos robic a nie jak dzieci" <- they are both from Poland so they will understand it
Open source mechanics/dialogs/quests is bad idea.
Ras is working on "old"
I am working on "new"
And why is that?Hmm let me think, ah ok, if 2238 will publish sorces in 10 days will be 0 online on 2238. Oh let me think more, anyway in few month will be 0 online on 2238 because of 100500 rejected devs.
Clones, wannabes and tell me you will not just strip it for usable resources/scripts/solutions and never look at it again?It depends. If the game is playable, you can make something out of it, maybe even better than the original one. If it's unplayable, then yes, it would be just stripped for usable solutions.
And here I thought you would argue "because everyone would make their own server with minor changes to the ruleset." Then I would agree.A good example of it is TLA. There are less (numerous clones with just few things changed) and more (like Requiem or TLA mk2) successful modifications.
I do not think that this is topic about 2238, so stop it and focus on fode devs, For me like skycast open source dialogs/quests is bad idea and will just create bigger mess. You should better hire some good roleplay dudes for it.
Open source doesn't mean write access to project repository for everyone.
How would it create "bigger mess"?
letting every commits with dialogs
And why do you want everything open source so badly? Well except 2238 project of course.
Open source is not same as ability to commit to repository.Ok, tell me how you would let people throw quests and dialogs to the server, i mean why is open source needed for the operation if you wont commit/update? But find other idea?
I'm just stating my opinion that OS would be beneficial and not bad idea at all.
It doesn't mean that I'm going to go ask or bother anyone to release anything they made.
I am glad that you care about future of other projects, but if this is not bad idea at all, why would you in person show the power of it and make the 2238 open source?
I try to discuss OS in general and you try to make it some personal flamewar about specific dev teams.
I see no problem with "clones". There is plenty of TLA clones which stand empty and don't hurt anyone.
Ok, tell me how you would let people throw quests and dialogs to the server, i mean why is open source needed for the operation if you wont commit/update?
Having read access only helps and doesn't hurt if someone thinks he can propose something
but isn't part of the core team. Many things can be done easier if you can see the repository
and have access to source files for reference etc. It prevents doing same things twice. It's
also simply a matter of showing a bit of respect to other people, if you take things from them.
I'm talking about FOnline development in general without pointing fingers at anyone.
Good luck with your project.
The bridge looks very thin and I think you should move the pedestrian crosswalk a bit more up (or remove one tile column, making it 2 tiles width). It hangs too close on the bridge.you're right ; )
Are the hotel signs single roof tiles or did you make one big roof tile out of it with invisible fake tiles to get back the disappearing roof functionality when a player steps under it?Hotel signs is one big roof. But the point axis XY is moved under the roof
you're right ; )
Hotel signs is one big roof. But the point axis XY is moved under the roof
...look
Join to the project and become developer!!!
Zapoj se do projektu a staň se vývojářem!!!
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You guys need some new animations?You have something interesting? ; D
You have something interesting? ; D
That's why we don't release yet.If you do happen to release it don't do it DNF style,better have an unreleased game then a half assed one.
There isn't any configuration.exe for master.dat and critter.dat?Just put them in the data folder.
Run FonlineD3D instead of Fonline.
DOWNLOAD CLIENT .zip (http://fode.eu/download/FOClient.zip)
About the most important things what we're working on:
- Encounters: Will be more varied different NPC and criters groups.
Knife Psycho Ghouls are only on the Death Belt area. You can use train From Moscow to Town Station (100 caps) to avoid them.I encountered them very very close near the Moscow Q_Q
put them in the game folder, not data folder.It worked, thanks alot.
try to use fode forumYeah, actually I liked it. Nice graphics and textures, European locations are amazing, the partition of the community with 2 factions makes the game even more competitive, starting location is also quite interesting and creepy. Totally liked it guys, though I still have to check a lot of things.
www.fode.eu
you can send pms to devs with your questions and also few other people try to know this server so u will have more update info about it.
this serv have huge potential and it isnt fot when after 5days u have nothing to do.
i really hope this serv can became 2nd 2238Wow. Just, wow.
Wow. Just, wow.
i really hope this serv can became 2nd 2238I really hope this server can become something own :)
i can see it isnt low developed fo australiawhat does this mean?
Jacky us just saying the under developed FO aus in the way scripts were implmented but it was a good effort for one guy
Also check our new website (http://fode.eu) to inform yourself about the latest changes, fixes and more!I preffer old forum, my eyes just bleeding when i am looking to new forum design *(
I preffer old forum, my eyes just bleeding when i am looking to new forum design *(You can get used to forum layout quickly. It's really user-friendly.
Might consider trying it but not really sure:For a short answer:
Can we run in combat on your server, is there turn based combat?
What is the level cap?
Are there many quests, stuff to do for begginner?
Are high tier weaponry obtainable by players?
Can we craft lockers like here? Can we craft at all?
- Map traveling speed is great. You can get where you want very quickly even without a car.Speed will be reduced as the server will develop. Now it is only made for easier play
- Acquiring good gear requires approximately ten times the amount of grind that FO: 2238 requires.What a pleasure when gain the best stuff on the first day? :)
- You will die of old age before you get enough stuff to do PvP.
- Farming encounters for gear is pretty much impossible without a large group. If you don't have a faction to back you up, you can forget about farming anything better than radscorpion tails....please :) besides being a "dev" I play daily (for test and look bugs) a little on the normal SG char. Now have 20 lvl ..and little bit HP and in within an hour myself am able gather a lot of weapons from some encounters. Do not believe me? I invite you to joint expedition :)
- Some encounters are bugged and will cause NPCs from your faction to shoot at you for no reason as soon as you enter (e.g. the NEC veterans and radscorpions encounter in Zone 1:1 does that consistently); there's no way of avoiding these - you are bound to get one at some point.if so... this is only bug in game and thanks for report. We will try to fix it as soon as possible.
- Some encounters feature critters that have a 100% chance of achieving a critical hit (e.g. psycho ghouls).Still the same :) We have a long ago expounded on the forum. This is specially and only in one place. Dead belt on the map (between Moscow and the Town station) has only a 10% chance of safe transition. Suggest using the transport train from Moscow to the town station. Ghouls in the future will be replaced to something else.
Click the spoiler at your own risk.
Perk: Latest perk at 24 level (max 7 perks)Haha 24 / 3 = 8... muahaha
Why are you hiding such important information from players though?Sure is difficult get next level but this is a good option for those who want invest in their character.
Click the spoiler at your own risk.
Haha 24 / 3 = 8... muahahaNo perk at level 1.
Sure is difficult get next level but this is a good option for those who want invest in their character.
Why are you hiding such important information from players though?
Also, how many experience points do I need in total to reach level 31? 1,200,000? What about level 40? Would that be something around 4,000,000?
BTW, when was the server last wiped? A month ago? Some entries on your forum/bug tracker clearly indicate there are players around who have multiple level 40 characters, which is really odd considering the enormously high XP thresholds for levels above 29. I can smell a familiar smell here, the smell of GM/dev abuse that all FO: 2238 players know so well. It's a very faint smell this time, and I might be wrong about it, but it's all rather interesting.
That said, Desert Europe is by far the best FOnline server at the moment – at least for non-Russians – so I'll probably stick around regardless of all the shenanigans.
EDIT: This is completely unrelated, but before I forget to ask – why is it so hard to find broc flowers & xander roots? I only get about 1 per 5 encounters max.
- no one has a lvl 40. Maximum character is something about 33-34 lvl (1 char)
Also at the level:
• 36 lvl unlocks your Special Slot
*cough* (http://wiki.fode.eu/Experience_Points)This article is inaccurate. For example, it tells me that I need 411000 experience points to reach level 30 which is NOT true. You might want to double-check the numbers. All of them.
No perk at level 1.3 lvl - 1 perk
And you can level up very good. My opinion at least.
After all, if THEY, or their friends, need any good item, they just spawn a special trader that sells it for caps (http://fode.eu/topic/506-top-equip-merchant/) (for caps mind you - not for free! - this way it's not GM/dev abuse! haha, right...).You should read the replies about that. This trader was there for pure test purposes, and is removed already. But you might just overseen that. :)
Exaggerates badly
your mining alt shoud have been preperated to carry a lot. And coudn`t you just buy fire gecko skins from shop or other player?I was prepared to carry a lot. Nearly all my non-PvP chars have 10 points of Strength. That's why I managed to actually craft the parts despite the enormous weight of all that ore combined.
crying at a much easier crafting systemOh, yes, it's very easy to craft all you need all right... as long as you just need shovels.
Mouse skins are like trash, I found like tons of themRiiiiiiight.
QQingNobody is QQing here, unless, perhaps, you are.
temporary bugs that will be fixed for sure, as the heavy rare ores and the mouse skin availability .[Citation needed]
And yea it's much easier to craft. No cuntish months-grindsome BP's nor professions . And no unsafe advanced cuntbenches that you need to carry heavy materials on your crafter to. Get a proper crafting alt and all you need to to is getting some crafting experience to remember all the places and proper ressourcing skill.Dude, you have no idea who you're talking to here. I already have maps of ALL mines with all 9 different types of deposits marked on them. Maps I've made myself and will probably share in ~2 months or so if I'm still playing the game. I figured out the approximate respawn times for every single one of the resources too. As for my crafting experience, be informed that I have crafted more items on various FOnline servers than you have ever SEEN.
The mouse hides weren't hard to find at all, you just need to get them from the ground in some encounters. Bearline guards and NEC or REF encounters have them.
is this server alive or dead?
you know what i mean?No,you stoopid.
Too much work?much? idk, game no have good encouters, only 10 quests, lot of maps, fine balance.
have a test server running need people to mass test it ip 212.10.27.18 port 2250 online 24/7