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Title: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: JovankaB on April 06, 2013, 07:15:20 pm
CHANGES (WIP):
- Replaced Aliens in the Redding mine with Young Aliens (except for the Alien Queen in her lair). Young Aliens aren't much weaker, but they have significantly less radioactive venom.
- Weak Flame Breath (weapon of the Fire Gecko in the Gecko mine) made a little bit stronger.
- Increased Gold Nugget price in the Redding bank to 100 caps. Gold Nugget is no longer an unarmed weapon. All already existing nuggets become "Fool's Gold" items, which have the same qualities as before, except that they are much lighter and can't be sold in the Redding bank.
- Piles of Chemical Components have 3 batches with 2 Chemical Components each (so 6 Chemical Components instead of 2 can be taken from each pile). Added one more pile in Toxic Caves and Waterworks, increased regeneration time to 30 seconds. Scavenging Chemical Components should be about 2-3 times faster now, depending on how many scavengers are in the location.
- Added 30 Broc and Xander plants in Klamath (in the trapping grounds south of the town). Each plant holds respectively 4 Broc flowers or 4 Xander roots. A new plant is generated somewhere in the forest 8 minutes after a plant is depleted.
- Timers on explosives (dynamite) are now set in real-world seconds and not in-game minutes.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: vedaras on April 06, 2013, 07:21:22 pm
server is dying :(
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 06, 2013, 07:22:57 pm
Devs:**add what player requested**
Player:"server is dying"
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Evil Genius on April 06, 2013, 07:26:14 pm
what are these changes for
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: davrot on April 06, 2013, 07:27:23 pm
what are these changes for
They are meant to ease your transition to TLA mk2.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: xsarq on April 06, 2013, 07:28:21 pm
It will be hard to find things to hate for even most expierenced trolls in this one. Nice little update.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Wipe on April 06, 2013, 07:30:51 pm
It will be hard to find things to hate for even most expierenced trolls in this one
Never underestimate the power of 2238 community.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: JovankaB on April 06, 2013, 07:31:23 pm
what are these changes for

Mostly balancing last mining/gathering changes.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: avv on April 06, 2013, 07:34:13 pm
It will be hard to find things to hate for even most expierenced trolls in this one. Nice little update.

My gold nugget fighter was rendered useless.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: vedaras on April 06, 2013, 07:35:25 pm
my broc flower selling shop business is now ruined :(
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: JovankaB on April 06, 2013, 07:53:49 pm
My gold nugget fighter was rendered useless.

New Gold Nuggets (from gold veins) are misc item, but you can keep fighting with Fool's Gold, which is the TC box nuggets.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 06, 2013, 08:00:19 pm
New Gold Nuggets (from gold veins) are misc item, but you can keep fighting with Fool's Gold, which is the TC box nuggets.
Wait so now TC reward is worthless?Or TC chest no longer spawns the "old" gold?
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: JovankaB on April 06, 2013, 08:26:41 pm
Wait so now TC reward is worthless?Or TC chest no longer spawns the "old" gold?

It's not spawned in TC box anymore and might be removed altogether with the end of this session (which may take long time and nobody knows how long). It's not worthless, it still has 50 caps base price and is 5 times lighter than before.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: White150 on April 06, 2013, 08:36:28 pm
Devs:**add what player requested**
Player:"server is dying"
It seems to me that you forgot to add a "troll image" like in other topics. :) It is obvious that you don't enough be on this board. Why do you fear criticism? For years, nothing there has changed, once it was a good server, but you probably don't know what was the real good old FOnline because you found this game year ago.

Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Dark. on April 06, 2013, 08:38:50 pm
Wait so now TC reward is worthless?Or TC chest no longer spawns the "old" gold?
TC reward has always been worthless.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 06, 2013, 08:41:15 pm
It seems to me that you forgot to add a "troll image" like in other topics. :) It is obvious that you don't enough be on this board. Why do you fear criticism? For years, nothing there has changed, once it was a good server, but you probably don't know what was the real good old FOnline because you found this game year ago.
I started playing in 2011 when the server was at it's worst.
So naturally I have low standards for FOnline games.

For me server has been dying since forever,I've done my time of being a critic who expects either too much or too little.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Alvarez on April 06, 2013, 09:51:22 pm
Hold on.
Now to get xander roots and broc flowers, you need to go to Klamath PK camping grounds?
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: avv on April 06, 2013, 10:31:05 pm
Hold on.
Now to get xander roots and broc flowers, you need to go to Klamath PK camping grounds?

You don't need to. They are still in encounters. Find out which way is faster.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: FrankenStone on April 06, 2013, 11:08:00 pm
make another alt 10 PE 10 STR and gather them at encounters much faster and less risky but anyway TLAMKII is more fun :P
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: JovankaB on April 07, 2013, 03:14:41 am
Gathering flowers in Klamath isn't slower, it's about 1.5 times faster from my tests. You don't really risk there much, all gear you need is some means to kill little gecko. 10 ST? No idea what you talk about. PE? It's useful but less than in encounters, where you have one spot with flowers in some corner instead of 30 plants over larger area. Your feedback was a bunch of completely pointless bullshits, but thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 07, 2013, 11:35:13 am
Xander gathering alt,I lol'd so hard.
And they call shit shovelers noobs...
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: greenthumb on April 07, 2013, 12:01:01 pm
make another alt 10 PE 10 STR and gather them at encounters much faster and less risky but anyway TLAMKII is more fun :P

both xander root's and broc flower's carry weight is 0kg. Also i believe spawning in random encounters is somehow influenced by location(sure someone would say "fonline myths")

This update just set crafting a bit more viable, but for crafting SS, chemical components are just fraction of consumed time, becouse bio med gels for each SS are worth 75caps,hypodermics 9caps each and brocs and xanders are worth smthing too. I would like to see decreased prices for these by 20-40%. If it would be so, Crafting SS will be SAME time consuming as it was before with stealing. All previous arguments will become invalid and whinings will stay just whinings.

NOTE: also those piles of brocs/xanders in klamath should be grabale at once, not one by one(at least in random encounters it was like that)

Also area with vertibird there would be nice place to collect them
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 07, 2013, 01:28:18 pm
Also i believe spawning in random encounters is somehow influenced by location(sure someone would say "fonline myths")


That is half true,Xander and broc flower spawn in all encounter cept coast and city ruins.While items like flint and choppable trees seems to spawn in increased quantities in mountain encounters.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: greenthumb on April 07, 2013, 01:30:31 pm
also ratio brocs/xanders depends on location.

1.I have tried collecting those in klamath and i managed to get 200 of both in around 1 hour, maybe less. So this is alredy good enough in my opinion.

2.I have also collected 200 chemical components in around 50 minutes in waterworks, thanks for extending number of barrels and number of batches.

Since 100 superstims was around 60-90minutes stealing before update, now its getting realy close to these values with current crafting. Only diffrence is,that you need to pay 8400 caps for biomedgels and hypodermics now.

Solution would be alredy mentioned decresing prices of biomedgels, or if you would not like to affect all drugs, then simply removing 1 biomedgel from Superstim recipe. Thats my suggestion.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Kanly on April 07, 2013, 03:12:39 pm
Thank you for the updates, the mines are now more fun to visit, and as said before, now anyone can easily understand what he is mining and where he should do it.

*Thumbs up for april update*
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: naossano on April 08, 2013, 12:10:07 am
I miss the days when you could kill militians throwing nuggets in their eyes...
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: FrankenStone on April 08, 2013, 04:55:47 am
i miss the time when thingz were having some value on merchants ... anyway fonline 2238 got no quests got no high tier weapons , it got nuthin , only PvP was there but now this thing isnt there too , so whats left ?
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Lexx on April 08, 2013, 07:30:35 am
No quests, I love the 2238 com hyperbole.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Gob on April 08, 2013, 07:55:21 am
Xander gathering alt,I lol'd so hard.
And they call shit shovelers noobs...

Shit shoveling is an art!
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: dskpnk on April 08, 2013, 10:24:30 am
Hopefully i sold my gold nuggets for 50 caps !  :P

But the server is almost dead, please dev, quick read this, do it, and wipe :

http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,28804.msg249059.html#msg249059
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: BenKain on April 09, 2013, 10:20:24 pm
Another great update in good speed. Thank you guys and cats!
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: manero on April 09, 2013, 10:30:59 pm
Another great update in good speed. Thank you guys and cats!

I hardly believe  ;D

http://fonline-status.ru/en/

Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 09, 2013, 11:11:26 pm
I hardly believe  ;D

http://fonline-status.ru/en/


Well at least it's not just fonline 2238
As you can see requiem and especially goon haven have lost most of it's population.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Kascin on April 10, 2013, 12:30:44 am
I've often watched servers status last 2-3 weeks, what I can say is the re-opening of TLA didn't really affected 2238; not much people during the day, but a lot during the evening.
Requiem was a bit more affected.

On the other part Changelog 2/04/2013 has made a big impact on the number of players on 2238.

To came back to the first subject, what I regret is now when we loot broc and xander we get 1 at a time; before it was 3.
I find it too long, while it is much faster for chemical.

And I don't know if it is normal or not, but when we take xander and broc on ground we don't lose our sneak.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: LeMark on April 10, 2013, 12:56:21 am
SS cannot be steath the same way than before?

Wtf! Wake up this is something we massively use and I don't see why it should stop. If you don't want us to do this no problem, it was stupid noe. Juste make it reasonable to craft like last session...

Just to be sure you know the pvp on your game - SS are a obligation, without this no fun, no fun no pvp, no pvp no player.

Have a great day.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Glumer on April 10, 2013, 01:11:47 am
SS cannot be steath the same way than before?

Wtf! Wake up this is something we massively use and I don't see why it should stop. If you don't want us to do this no problem, it was stupid noe. Juste make it reasonable to craft like last session...

Just to be sure you know the pvp on your game - SS are a obligation, without this no fun, no fun no pvp, no pvp no player.

Have a great day.

its vain dont try it, we changed server
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: LeMark on April 10, 2013, 01:19:44 am
Ho, and npc attacking people who attack another player in TC zone is not good. I know is hard to fix that, but in your planning you can thing about fixing that?

Thanks!

Btw, event if you hit a npc is not a reason why you should have a town on you in a TC town.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: dskpnk on April 10, 2013, 02:07:41 am
SS cannot be steath the same way than before?

Actualy SS are easier to craft than before (stealing) in my point of view. All looks pretty good, but this session started one year ago and some team where rich like godmod in 2 weeks (from start), zero challenge left, need new features and wipe, something cool ! Fast server almost dead !
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: Gimper on April 10, 2013, 03:44:09 am
server is dying :(
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Good job for at least trying Jovanka.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: naossano on April 10, 2013, 08:13:45 pm
SS cannot be steath the same way than before?

Wtf! Wake up this is something we massively use and I don't see why it should stop. If you don't want us to do this no problem, it was stupid noe. Juste make it reasonable to craft like last session...

Just to be sure you know the pvp on your game - SS are a obligation, without this no fun, no fun no pvp, no pvp no player.

Have a great day.

But without SS, there will be more FA on Lemark !!!

About the SS, if that should be nerfed, it would be more about efficiency than crafting time.
It would be piss crafters a lot more, without reducing SS number and necessity on pvp.
But i am not certain it should be nerfed.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: greenthumb on April 10, 2013, 08:31:05 pm
craftinh SS now is as much time consuming as stealing  before (at  least very similar). Only difference is it consumes around 8000 caps per 100 superstimpacks.
Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: DeputyDope on April 10, 2013, 08:32:27 pm
craftinh SS now is as much time consuming as stealing  before

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Title: Re: Changelog 6/04/2013
Post by: greenthumb on April 10, 2013, 08:36:43 pm
Quote from: DeputyDope
O rly?
Yep