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FIXES:
- Fixed unsneak bug after entering a Combat Zone with 0s Idling Timer.
- Public locations which aren't visible by default (Sierra, Toxic Caves) can become Combat Zones.
- Fixed having not enough charisma (or car out of fuel) could protect you from enforced encounters.
- Fixed issue which caused wrong car placement inside enforced encounters for groups which changed leader during World Map travel.
- Fixed enforced encounters not being visible after exiting when leaving car inside.
- Fixed several small map bugs.
CHANGES (WIP):
- Predators are attracted also by followers of the player character.
- Crafting stimpaks doesn't require a blueprint anymore.
- You can't come with car to Tent in the Wasteland quest maps (temporary solution for losing cars after the quest is finished).
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Well done, thanks.
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Thanks for keeping up on the fixes, Way to go.
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It's so fantastic to come back and see an absolute plethora of well thought-out and enacted updates, ready to be explored.
Keep up the exemplary work guys!
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Predators : Why rats have fast shot perk and bitting for 5dmg to any armor? Why not use usually rats? ... it's pretty annoying. :)
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Predators : Why rats have fast shot perk and bitting for 5dmg to any armor? Why not use usually rats? ... it's pretty annoying. :)
All predators have Living Anatomy perk. They are specialized in killing alive things after all.
It's a feature and won't change. If you watch the game it's not a big deal.
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You get more critical successes and fewer critical failures when you are healing, and you receive a +2 bonus to damage per any attack targeting living creatures
Living anatomy perk has been reworked, you receive +2 bonus to damage, not 5 like it was in previous sessions thus it's impossible they have this perk.
EDIT: Just checked, you were right the descriptions on wiki, nitue or changelog were false. Living anatomy really does add +5 bonus to damage. Some dev could tell us if this is gonna change or stay like it is now (intention was only +2 bonus apparently).
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Living anatomy perk has been reworked, you receive +2 bonus to damage, not 5 like it was in previous sessions thus it's impossible they have this perk.
they have fast shot as i write
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Living anatomy perk has been reworked, you receive +2 bonus to damage, not 5 like it was in previous sessions thus it's impossible they have this perk.
Living Anatomy gives +5 dmg. Either description is wrong or the perk is, but that's how it is now.
I will check it out, but even if LA would be nerfed, predators would get something else to boost their minimal damage.
Personally I don't see much reason to nerf LA though.
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Can you or anyone else tell me if this perk really gets "nerfed" in this session? I'm really thinking of making a character with this perk (which would be otherwise a waste of a perk!). I don't want to level another char and see that it got "fixed" with the next update. Already have a useless sg crit burst sneaker :/
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It seems like it always was +5 Dmg ::)
Guess what, I will just update description and let others worry what to do with it.
It's up to you if you want to risk leveling new char.
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I wouldn't worry that it would get nerf, there are better perks out there, and requirement of 150% FA is high enough tradeoff if you ask me.
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Excellent :)
For some builds (for example non-crit heavy handed) it's still a decent bonus I think.
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Im really not going to find post of Solar, but he commented on LA that perk is more about healing and dmg part is just bonus.
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For doctors the healing bonus it gives is nearly worthless, even after small buff it got you can disregard it.
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Im really not going to find post of Solar, but he commented on LA that perk is more about healing and dmg part is just bonus.
Shooo Sarakin shoo... do you see Solar around here stop ruining my dreams ;D
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Compliment, you radishes have added encounters to city squares.
No more safe junk gathering grounds for newbs.
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Has anything been changed in encounters with footlockers? I am searching about an hour and found about 40 encounters and not even one footlocker.
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I have no problem finding lockers around LA, Reno and San Fran. Though I didn't check 19:0 after the update.
It became more challenging however since odds of other players entering the same encounter seem to be much higher.
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No more safe junk gathering grounds for newbs.
As if junk gathering should be nerfed... :(
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I don't know is it just me or this cz feature didn't work fine. People can't jump in action as 3rd team because they need to idle on map. This feature need a bit of polishing. I like wm feature. Now some pks can make a trap over nr or ncr
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Teams can jump as third team with no problem, it only takes a bit more time to organize and it takes more effort to spontaneously engage in fight where two other teams might be fighting on equal terms. Well to what burden multiple alt requirement were for the common player before, then it is not even close to what has been made for players in order to play "normally", that is a very relative term that varies, what's normal about this game anyway? :)
I agree, the idling system has flaws and it is plausible whether it can be further improved, besides that they have done an excellent job with this system.
Further relating to subject.
not to mention very annoying clickfest while waiting over wm (not even spamming preview, just waiting till others get ready). and if I choose to go to base, I render myself useless in pvp for xx seconds.
The immunity could be made 150 seconds upon entering a base, tent allowing players a window of time for some safe heaven in order to relax this annoyance, because it is one partially, I know. It is bad enough that the player has to idle for the timer and after that risk getting killed on world map if he has to linger around because he doesn't really have any other option other than enter inside base, leave, repeat or go to an empty encounter and then hope something like this doesn't happen in a similar fashion.
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Then again I heard someone saying that it is a positive effect that players are encouraged to be inside the city, but it is no different then being susceptible to any of kind of hostility you might encounter on world map, it will simply stay as an annoyance unfortunately. The time window of 150 seconds what I'm considering might be used as an opportunity to bypass the system for own advantage. There simply are players who would go to such extremes, there always is some percent. Or this could be a bit overlooked and it wouldn't be so bad.
I'll give it more thought to it anyway as this is interesting to think about, but like I said I doubt this system could be much improved, simply because I think someone has already put a lot of thought into it just to make it happen. Something like this doesn't go from paper to reality without alternatives at stake.
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Just discovered the if you "abandon tent" you not only lose everything that is stored there, but you also lose any vehicles parked there. Just FYI for anyone who wasn't aware, DO NOT PARK IN YOUR TENT IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT!
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Blake it warns you of those details, (except the car disappearing). If you still have the key to the car, it 'MIGHT' be possible to get it returned if it didn't get completely removed.
As far as the encounter system, there will always be noobs looking for ways to trap people and abuse other players, so no matter what you do to the game that won't change. All in all it's not a bad update, though I have noticed an increase of players entering encounters, that isn't good, because it almost always leads to someone getting jumped and that is just detrimental to game play.
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it warns you of those details, (except the car disappearing)
Well technically car is an item, so... ;)
Anyway, added note about cars too, as removing them when player abandon the tent is by design.
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Nice and fast fixes.
Now go go fix that base problem I mentioned while your fingers are warm.
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Funny when people cry about rules which are same for all.
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All in all it's not a bad update, though I have noticed an increase of players entering encounters, that isn't good, because it almost always leads to someone getting jumped and that is just detrimental to game play.
W-w-wha...?!
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I think the fact that it's hard to synchronize big teams might be actually good. I think swarms
have way too much advantage anyway and it was too easy for 15+ people to just wait on signal
to attack anytime, not even being in the game but on IRC/mumble. If a horde of players doesn't
play but can easily squash anyone who appears in town if told some people are there I think
it's not really that great.
Large battles is like the only thing left for a lot of players to do now. Besides large "swarms" is a part of all politics that happen between factions in or out of the game, alliances even out sooner or later and they go with the flow of the game and anything that restricts the player in that regard is bad. You said it yourself, you want to keep the game's freedom, well guess what this is not exactly the right way.
Unless it's 2 swarms who wait each other, but really if one swarm dies they could be back in less
than 5 minutes with the same characters if they really wanted. But they don't want to because
loot is looted and enemies healed, which is exactly how it should be IMO. So don't blame idling.
After a battle, yeah sure, but it shouldn't be a major ass in the pain prior battle to gather players, it is hard enough sometimes to gather them at all. Because hey, players jump in and check if there's action, and if there is, then why the hell do they have to wait for anything?
I don't know any game that restricts my ability to play once I enter it the first time, quite absurd. The same issue we discussed time ago concerning raw skill penalties what was I believe your own suggestion, good one, but yeah, why players should be punished anyhow if they haven't even played the game yet.
2 spawns were moved away from towns so pvp apes who want to be efficient in returning will have
to make new spawn bases / tents. I suppose in Den it slowed down people a bit.
That all so we need to rebuild bases? Those few squares won't make a difference if organized, large parties come back with a car, this only encourages a second window with car waiting for dead alts and those who have a base right near the city to re-gear will directly benefit to those who doesn't have such bases at all, I'm also talking about re-spawn bases.
Factions normally have two if you didn't know, one right next to city to drop loot/re-gear and one for spawn just to pick up dead alts. The time needed re-gear is largely affected by one's ability to go back to his base and re-spawn bases just simply cut corners no matter how far away you will place re-spawns and those who won't have such bases, will be at a disadvantage depending on how far re-spawn is in an ongoing fight. Quite a few battles, the good and tough one's are largely won by who can reinforce faster.
If anything, re-spawn locations should be closer to cities, so players shouldn't have to rely so much on them, also the ability to come back quicker would just encourage longer fights which is a good thing, trust me.
Maybe it will encourage players to make smaller independent teams that actually play together
inside the game. Of course it doesn't change anything for teams who are in town already, but still.
I'd wish it was such kind of candy, but it isn't.
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I have opened the "tent in the wasteland" quest where i am supposed to eradicate some rats, but every time i try to enter the rat-infested farm i'm told "this area is full. come back later."
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Haven't had much time to play FO but I really like the changes!
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I have opened the "tent in the wasteland" quest where i am supposed to eradicate some rats, but every time i try to enter the rat-infested farm i'm told "this area is full. come back later."
You have to come there alone. It's so full of rats only one character fits ;)
It wasn't intended but it makes it harder to farm tents with alts instead of
gathering resources so I think I will leave it.
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Excellent. Thank you. I entered the location before I saw your response because my dogs died. It sure would have been fun to fight rats with dogs, but I respect your wise choice.
p.s. i was in a completely empty encounter area (mountains) and made sure no critters were around before i logged out to use the toilet. i logged back in and i was dead. should i only log out in world map from now on? forgive me if this question has already been answered...
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Predator shouldn't spawn if you were alone and offline, but it could be already
spawned predator you didn't notice or a player who jumped into your encounter.
Definitely log off on WM if you are far from a safe location.
(Sorry I accidentally edited your post instead of quoting.)