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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Atom on February 04, 2012, 05:18:13 am
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FIXES:
- Sharpshooter perk.
- Verbose messages.
- Fixed advanced workbenches in Toxic Caves and Glow.
- Font outlines.
- Making screenshots in OpenGL version.
- OpenGL version fixes and workarounds for some optional gl extensions. Also read the extra notes.
- Music in D3D version.
CHANGES (WIP):
- Removed professions limit.
- Factions dogtags have now own graphics (by JovankaB).
- Added location coordinates display in base browsing section.
- Fixed campfire at City Ranger House.
- Fixed Marty in New Reno giving unlimited amount of $5.
- Silent Death no longer works with burst. Only supported weapons are those with pistol animations, and those using Throwing, Melee or Unarmed skills.
- ~freefactionnames displays name aliases, if present.
- Disabled VC Med Terminal for now.
- Added Med Terminal to V12.
- Changed Combat Armor (and its derivatives) graphics.
EXTRA NOTES:
- To provide a better feedback on the OpenGL version of the client, use OpenGL performance (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=21431.0) thread and OpenGL bugs (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=21430.0) thread.
IMPORTANT:
- Run the updater to obtain the new files.
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Thx devs, very good work.
- Disabled VC Med Terminal for now.
- Added Med Terminal to V12.
But what about HQ Chemical Components and HQ Fibers?
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What's the point in the medical terminal stuff if HQ Chemical Components don't exist?
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This is the best update so far..... no profession limit?
And do I here the music ?
Awesome!!!!!!!
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- Disabled VC Med Terminal for now.
- Added Med Terminal to V12.
Whoah! That'll cause some serious griefing!
Personally i don't care yet because of reqs of HQ compounds... but i perceive it as extreme lack of common sense to transfer crucial crafting areas to were trolling PK apes are... You force normal players to climb to their monkey tree!
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About this V12 med terminal. Where in the Necro underground do you find V12? All I find is a few rats, and empty sewers.
Is this a mistype, or do you really mean V12? Because I can't find it under Necro.
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FIXES:
- Sharpshooter perk.
- Making screenshots in OpenGL version.
CHANGES (WIP):
- Removed professions limit.
- Silent Death no longer works with burst. Only supported weapons are those with pistol animations, and those using Throwing, Melee or Unarmed skills.
Me likee.
Goooood update, thank you so much for the hard work ironing all of these things out.
;D
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About this V12 med terminal. Where in the Necro underground do you find V12? All I find is a few rats, and empty sewers.
Is this a mistype, or do you really mean V12? Because I can't find it under Necro.
Search harder it is there.
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Are faction base terminals fixed yet? :(
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- Silent Death no longer works with burst. Only supported weapons are those with pistol animations, and those using Throwing, Melee or Unarmed skills.
This could have been the singular purpose of the update. Awesome.
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How am I suppose to run the game, I downloaded the update,
but when I launch it, it just shows the loading screens,after I press ESC,it just shows a little box of logging in.
Am I suppose to run with FOnlineGL because it does the same thing
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How am I suppose to run the game, I downloaded the update,
but when I launch it, it just shows the loading screens,after I press ESC,it just shows a little box of logging in.
Am I suppose to run with FOnlineGL because it does the same thing
am having same trouble.
edit- server is down thats why
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TC messages still not working.
Too funny that Sharpshooter working correctly now.
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Updated, now I've got start script trouble...
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Nice update. But another question appear. Where HQ fibers can be found?
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Nice update. But another question appear. Where HQ fibers can be found?
As Solar said not implemented yet, must be fixed in next updates.
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LOLi Run Updater ,Download FonlineGL and other . I run Fonline.exe and this not running ;/ WHY
Who can help me PLEASE
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Good work guys
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CHANGES (WIP):
- Removed professions limit.
I really can't understand why this wasn't implemented from start. Crafters are already made and blueprints are spread out on 4 or 5 chars. Now, at this point it doesn't reduce alts for me. It just pushes my ragemeter up.
LOLi Run Updater ,Download FonlineGL and other . I run Fonline.exe and this not running ;/ WHY
Who can help me PLEASE
Reading previous offtopic post in this very thread might help you. Server is down at the moment.
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Fixed advanced workbenches in Toxic Caves.
Silent Death no longer works with burst.
YES!YES!YES! ;D
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- Sharpshooter perk.
- Removed professions limit.
- Silent Death no longer works with burst. Only supported weapons are those with pistol animations, and those using Throwing, Melee or Unarmed skills.
Thank yoo. [sighs] Can live of an non-alter be even better? [smiles]
- Verbose messages.
Can you be more specific with this one, please?
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Has there been any progress for those of us who still don't have sound effects? Music works fine just no sound effects.
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The other chem, bio med gel and fibre+ will be added soon enough.
There should also be another med terminal in v15, it just didn't make it for this update.
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Solar can you answer where fibers+ can be gather or it will made by crafting from simple fibers?
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Has there been any progress for those of us who still don't have sound effects? Music works fine just no sound effects.
Since you're one of the few (if not the only one) with this specific problem, I'd recommend you to check out your sound configuration. Some games cause problems with specific settings and hardware, e.g. I can still remember Bioshock had such issues while Stereo Mix was disabled (enabling it solves the problem). You could search for most common sound problems with other games and hardware configurations (something like this (http://www.guide4games.com/index.php/fixes/1276-king-arthur-ii-pc-crashes-freezes-invisible-armies-crash-to-desktop-ctd-blackscreen-mouse-cursor-disappear-teleport-fix-savegame-problem-bad-framerates-sound-error-and-fixes#h6-problem-3-king-arthur-ii-has-no-sound-sound-error-sound-problems-and-sound-stuttering-fix)) and try to apply custom settings in order to resolve the issue with 2238.
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nice, realy nice! but when could we check it, if server is down?
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nice, realy nice! but when could we check it, if server is down?
Of course you will check it when server will up ) As Solar said they adding some features in the game.
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game doesnt work for me
i press play button after what i get message that wants me to send errorfile to support@fonline.ru
UPDATE? NO SNEAKERS?
WHATEVA
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- Verbose messages.
Can you be more specific with this one, please?
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=21313.0
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FIXES:
CHANGES (WIP):
- Silent Death no longer works with burst. Only supported weapons are those with pistol animations, and those using Throwing, Melee or Unarmed skills.
Why not disable it only for weapons burst mode? :-[
I guess it has to do with the engine limitations or is a coding issue, but this way silent death doesnt work for lets say .223 pistol or hunting rifle, which dont even have burst mode available.
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its couse 223 pistol was OP dealing 150~ dmg KOs like top gaus crits.
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its couse 223 pistol was OP dealing 150~ dmg KOs like top gaus crits.
ok, maybe i agree with 223 pistol, but what about single shots from 14mm, greese gun, p90, 10mm smg???
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its couse 223 pistol was OP dealing 150~ dmg KOs like top gaus crits.
How is it OP, I got 150+ damage from someone shooting magneto laser pistol....
We are not talking about 500+ hp bursts with crappiest SMG here...
It's only one time crit from sneaker and 223 is not a cheap pistol.
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Since you're one of the few (if not the only one) with this specific problem, I'd recommend you to check out your sound configuration. Some games cause problems with specific settings and hardware, e.g. I can still remember Bioshock had such issues while Stereo Mix was disabled (enabling it solves the problem). You could search for most common sound problems with other games and hardware configurations (something like this (http://www.guide4games.com/index.php/fixes/1276-king-arthur-ii-pc-crashes-freezes-invisible-armies-crash-to-desktop-ctd-blackscreen-mouse-cursor-disappear-teleport-fix-savegame-problem-bad-framerates-sound-error-and-fixes#h6-problem-3-king-arthur-ii-has-no-sound-sound-error-sound-problems-and-sound-stuttering-fix)) and try to apply custom settings in order to resolve the issue with 2238.
He is not the only one with these problems, there is an entire thread where we tried to pin down why it doesn't work for us anymore (unfortunately I can't find it right now). It stopped working for a lot of people since a certain SDK revision, so I wouldn't only pinpoint it to a PC configuration (I compared my PC configuration with others with the same problems and they are vastly different).
And yes, me (and I assume Jack and the others too) fiddled around for weeks already with different sound configurations, it does not work. The engine plays .ogg files for us just fine, all the .acm files are kept silent - that's why I assume it is NOT an issue with our respective computers. :-\
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ye exactly there are a lot more people with this issue - 4 example me.
and btw Ive never any issue with sound in any game before :F
antoher thing is that u brought wrong armors/helmets files version into ur update :F
http://speedy.sh/nF4n3/final-armor-sett.rar here is correct
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Thanks to the new update, I no longer have any problems with the sound or music. Now all is working again and this is great. :D
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FIXES:
- Sharpshooter perk.
- Silent Death no longer works with burst. Only supported weapons are those with pistol animations, and those using Throwing, Melee or Unarmed skills.
This is win. Thanks for good fixes , as well really like that glow and toxic caves workbench fix :)
How is it OP, I got 150+ damage from someone shooting magneto laser pistol....
Normally it doesn't do that much damage , lucky crit roll i guess , as well you actually have to craft those pistols and they are not very cheap to make either , not grease gun from witch you can build cities.
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finally no sissy sneakers in hinkley ;] and no 1k damage from 1hex ;] ohhh yea it is time to make lsw sneaker ;D
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- Removed professions limit.
(http://gifsforum.com/images/image/fap%20fap%20fap/preview/fap%20fap%20fap.jpg)
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can someone log in to the server? cause i can't and i've got it already updated i have that problem with small login menu in the middle of the screen and in the sulution bug section it's sayed to "press enter" and it will log in to the server and download needed info but it doesn't work like that it just says cannot connect to the server... help me.
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Server keeps failing all day long, you just need to wait until these server issues get sorted out.
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its couse 223 pistol was OP dealing 150~ dmg KOs like top gaus crits.
But Silent Death just lets you make one shot and then you have to hide/rely on your other skills, that's not OP
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Good fixes.
Next target of turbowhine will be sd grenadiers and plasmagrenade damage.
Normally it doesn't do that much damage , lucky crit roll i guess , as well you actually have to craft those pistols and they are not very cheap to make either , not grease gun from witch you can build cities.
Actually you can loot those pistols from vc caravan patrol and they aint so hard to kill with correct build. But Laser pistol is even cheaper and pretty much the same as 223 pistol.
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I ran the updater but when it tries to download faction001.zip, there's "Unable to save file" error and the update stops. Needless to say, I can run the game client. Anyone encountered similar updater error?
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Good fixes.
Next target of turbowhine will be sd grenadiers and plasmagrenade damage.
Actually you can loot those pistols from vc caravan and they aint so hard to kill with correct build. But Laser pistol is even cheaper and pretty much the same as 223 pistol.
Hmm I thought caravans got removed?
Laser pistols require quite some resources and the pesky to get electronic parts. along with the need for ammo which also requires a nonsense amount of electronic parts. Afcoarse if you have the level you could just farm mercenaries, but craftwise and for loners EW tends to be harsh to play.
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- Removed professions limit.
What does this mean?I can have more than one profession on my character or?
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What does this mean?I can have more than one profession on my character or?
Exactly that.
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What does this mean?I can have more than one profession on my character or?
Before you could have more than 1 profession, but 3 profession levels was the limit.
Now the only limit is the skills you have.
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Will SD grenadiers be nerfed? I am not sure If I should take silent death or not.
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Still neither music nor sound works for me...
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Will SD grenadiers be nerfed?
Why should they? I agree that bursters were imba, I had my one made mainly for .223 headshots (but running with gg during bug) and now they took burst and .223 and 14mm away, what made my build quite useless, with one thing I can shoot being needler pistol. But why they should nerf grenadiers?
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because sneaker are for scout not insta kill
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I want SD working with 14mm and .223, don't get yourselves all worked up :p
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imo removing Sd from burst completely was a mistake,. it was not so overpowerd, only the 1hex Sd burst was. plasma nades can do more dmg with SD than the burst did from range so im not sure what reason was behind this.
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The reason were trolls. Trolls killing eg. black guy npc from construction ground. Trolling is pain in ass, even trolls know that. Now you have your bursters fucked up, you trolls ;] I'd just like my .223 working with SD back <3
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wel if Sd wont work for burst it would be nice if you could keep it to just burst,. not gun models,. so i could Sd single shot someone with my 10mm smg,. is lame if i have to carry 2 diffrent guns.
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yea...keep sg one handed for sd but remove burst mode ;]
now we can finally fight in nr and in hinkley...no more blue pants ghost who can everything and everyone with greese gun form encounter
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it was not so overpowerd, only the 1hex Sd burst was.
Bull Shit.
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I hope this """- Silent Death no longer works with burst. Only supported weapons are those with pistol animations, and those using Throwing, Melee or Unarmed skills.""" will be changed to not working only with burst mode...because major pistols cant be usable wit SD and its silly...someone said that .223 was doing to much dmg, no you're wrong, 150 dmg is very lucky shot, usually with SD crt is around ~72 and yeah its only one shot...
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someone said that .223 was doing to much dmg, no you're wrong, 150 dmg is very lucky shot, usually with SD crt is around ~72 and yeah its only one shot...
Assuming, that target is WITHOUT helmet :|
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Someone help me, this update don't let me play the game.
I downloaded the update but wont work.
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(if not the only one) with this specific problem
nope
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Well, I still get the "Unable to save file" error while downloading faction001.zip. Tried reinstalling FOnline and deleting .cache files. Could anyone upload new faction001.zip somewhere?
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faction001.zip (http://serauqa.tk/faction001.zip)
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Seriously, this update is just wonderful. The best change for me is finally fixed contours bug and sharpshooter perk.
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Finally, the sharpshooter perk.
And faction dog tags eh?
This outta be interesting.
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Well, I still get the "Unable to save file" error while downloading faction001.zip. Tried reinstalling FOnline and deleting .cache files. Could anyone upload new faction001.zip somewhere?
If you have to reinstall the game, always keep a back up of your last copy in case you need to salvage any files. It's come in handy a lot for me.
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Too bad my only character was a SD burster, and now he's useless. I was not alting. Created some characters, but just can't force myself to level them up, so only this one character was played. And I have to dump him. This game is such a waste of time. Until next wipe :F
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Thank you devs !
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Too bad my only character was a SD burster, and now he's useless. I was not alting. Created some characters, but just can't force myself to level them up, so only this one character was played. And I have to dump him. This game is such a waste of time. Until next wipe :F
lol dude you should have know it was going to get fixed. it was a bug you should have been smart like other people and made it the way its supposed to be. also if you cant lvl another alt then thats just lazy. only takes 6-8 hours of grinding to get max lvl.
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Hey thanks for mentioning you lowered the experience given from making super sledges assholes, it takes me 2 hours with a car to get 30 good metal parts. I wasted 10 today thinking I was getting 600 exp. instead I only got 133 per super sledge. Again thanks for putting that in the patch notes...
Why does anyone waste their time with this game. Besides waiting for an opportunity to ruin some ones day.
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... yea i also dont get why they put down how much exp you get for crafting. crafting is a pain and now even less exp for doing it. all the devs are doing is making is harder for loners to lvl. wasteing there time. factions can just make big trip get couple hundred ores and no big deal makes up for the exp lose. loner cant do same. seems all this era all devs are trying to do is troll the loners..... no balance this era .... again.
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yeah, I can sense they are trying to turn this game into a "gang wars" facebook game
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Also it seems they changed it so that you can now lock pick a cars trunk. I have no idea what lock pick skill you would need to do that though because the Devs don't tell us shit! I've got 3 level 24 toons and now I have to make ANOTHER ONE. WTF if you don't want me using Alts. then don't make the system require me to use Alts. It is frustrating as shit!
Listen, Devs, I am sure you guys want to have a game where people have one character based on what style that player would want to play. I know you want players to congregate, meet each other and group up to tackle some of the games more difficult aspects. But how on earth are we supposed to do that if everything pits us against one another?
There is no voice chat, how are you supposed to talk to people who don't even speak your language (American's, since everyone knows English apparently). When we see other players we have to shoot or be shot, kill or be killed. There is no room for error when making your toon or you will soon find that you will be making another toon, since no one online will have that skill you are looking for.
How many Alts am I going to have to freakin make to enjoy the game? Obviously 3 is not enough! I want to play 1 character and have him be able to do everything! One character should eventually be able to master every aspect of the game. The limiting factor shouldn't be skills, it should be carry weight, equipment, and faction size. Man I'm sick of making Alts every patch.
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yeah, I can sense they are trying to turn this game into a "gang wars" facebook game
Please , what devs do is to just increase interaction , it's actually fun to go to maripossa now organize protection etc. etc.
What do you isolate yourself even in a game ? Loners this , loners that ... maybe it's time to find the right people to play with.
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... yea i also dont get why they put down how much exp you get for crafting. crafting is a pain and now even less exp for doing it. all the devs are doing is making is harder for loners to lvl. wasteing there time. factions can just make big trip get couple hundred ores and no big deal makes up for the exp lose. loner cant do same. seems all this era all devs are trying to do is troll the loners..... no balance this era .... again.
I can understand the frustration that it's getting a bit harder for lonely people, but you should understand that this game is first and foremost meant to be played together with people, it is a multiplayergame after all. It was called "faction mod" in the beginning for reason.
@merlin: even though your anger is understandable there is no reason to tote insults all around.
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... triple loners are alone because there nubs and dont realize they can join faction because there nubs with no exp.(even thou most factions want them)
also there are loners because some like to be alone but there still need to be some balance for them either way. we all want to enjoy game even loners and pvp apes such as you.
the goal of devs should be noobs first, us apes later...... seems there going other way atm thou.
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If this is a beta, then we are the beta "testers" and we deserve as much information about game changes as anyone else on your team. If you change stuff without writing it down how will anyone know what was changed? How do you know there isn't some very obscure exploit one of the Devs is hiding for their friends in the game? You don't if they don't have to write it down.
600exp for making a super sledge was at minimum compensation for the time spent traveling around the map getting parts. This nerf is really uncalled for and COMPLETELY un-announced. You mean to tell me that I can feed infinite fruit to a kid for 5xp a peice which is the most boring thing I've even done on the internet, but when I go miles out of my way for an experience boost that is what deserves a nerf.
It takes a long time to get good quality parts especially when the Hungarians are guarding the mines with rockets and miniguns. But I did it. I got the mats, I deserve that experience. I walked the 10,000 miles. I don't want to do your crappy quests because they aren't rewarding on the 5th run through. The first time they are great because hey every newb needs to shovel shit. But man how many Alts am I going to have to make to figure out a useful and interesting build.
I get to level 24 and say to myself "whoops, I'm a 1 trick pony"
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One thing I have noticed about this game is that it's really up to the player to make it interesiting for himself. This session I'm playing with a character who will never join a faction because he is dedicated to working for himself. So far he has been a loner aside from joining hunting parties when the oppurtunity has presented itself a few times but at the same time he is very social, and guess what? I'm having fun!
I'm having fun because I told myself that I wouldn't spend all my time trying race to an endgame level. Instead I am simply enjoying the road getting there without really worrying about my pace. I'm also not wasting all my time trying to make myself an island of alts who take care of my every need, because what I really need is to get out of the house every now and then. And can you believe it, I'm still having fun! We are all responsible for our own moods/journies/fun, and I feel like sometimes some of the people playing this game just don't really know how to enjoy games. Maybe because all of us have spent so much time playing games where everything is already dictated to us that we never need to add our own creativity to a game, but I feel like that is the missing component to fonline.
merlin; in your case you just built a super sledge. The super sledge may not have given you 1000xp but imagine how much it will gain you when you hunt! and besides, if sneaking into an unguarded mine and escaping with not only your life but the materials you needed was a chore and not thrill and a reward in itself then maybe this isnt the game for you?
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... triple loners are alone because there nubs and dont realize they can join faction because there nubs with no exp.(even thou most factions want them)
also there are loners because some like to be alone but there still need to be some balance for them either way. we all want to enjoy game even loners and pvp apes such as you.
the goal of devs should be noobs first, us apes later...... seems there going other way atm thou.
I don't want to be on someone else's schedule. That is the only reason I don't join a faction, I got a job, a family, a life. I don't want to wait on people for 4 hours a day. I want to get on do some shit, have some fun and get off. I'll get into the group thing when I have time.
But seriously WTF you could have wrote the nerf to sledges in the patch notes. Half of the changes aren't even explained.
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Since you're one of the few (if not the only one) with this specific problem, I'd recommend you to check out your sound configuration. Some games cause problems with specific settings and hardware, e.g. I can still remember Bioshock had such issues while Stereo Mix was disabled (enabling it solves the problem). You could search for most common sound problems with other games and hardware configurations (something like this (http://www.guide4games.com/index.php/fixes/1276-king-arthur-ii-pc-crashes-freezes-invisible-armies-crash-to-desktop-ctd-blackscreen-mouse-cursor-disappear-teleport-fix-savegame-problem-bad-framerates-sound-error-and-fixes#h6-problem-3-king-arthur-ii-has-no-sound-sound-error-sound-problems-and-sound-stuttering-fix)) and try to apply custom settings in order to resolve the issue with 2238.
None of that works. I get music but no sound effects. I'm stumped uninstalled, reinstalled you name it. I was told by another dev that this was a bug.
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Finally someone else on the forum that knows how to have real fun in the game.
I get tired of being urged to power-level my characters by my gang-mates. Tired of hearing it and even thinking about even more so doing it occassionally. ( though I never finish )
Not a single lvl 24 yet. ;>
Time for people to take a chill-pill and have fun. Just try not to let other shitters (including me) ingame that kill you and take your stuff etc etc. "try" <<< Don't expect everyone to hold onto their sanity. :D
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Also weak healing powders now give 3xp instead of 8xp, damn it's going to be slower to lvl now - I used to really enjoy them as I us them up regular during lvling as I've only got 1 perception it doesn't matter about -1 perception.
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Why does anyone waste their time with this game.
I'm still wondering why you waste your time with this game. Tell us about it.
Instead of leveling up with crafting (I did it once with crafter alt, it took me few months to reach 21th level with it), grab this Supersledge and go pwn molerats - five of them gives you 600 XP and doesn't even require 2 hours of digging rocks :>
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Every item should give 10% of their price (the generally much cheaper new price that they should really be set to at some point :p).
Some items hadn't been changed and now are fixed.
Crafting xp is a small bonus, not a primary method of levelling.
Do not whinge at us that we should be doing this or that, we owe you nothing. Request something politely and maybe you'd get further.
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Every item should give 10% of their price (the generally much cheaper new price that they should really be set to at some point :p).
Some items hadn't been changed and now are fixed.
Crafting xp is a small bonus, not a primary method of levelling.
Do not whinge at us that we should be doing this or that, we owe you nothing. Request something politely and maybe you'd get further.
I'm not whining at you, I"m telling you when you make patch notes include all the changes.
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And I'm telling you that you don't get to tell me what to do. You are playing our game, we are not making your game - see if you can figure out the difference.
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Are superlsedges even supposed to be in the fixboy as defualt?
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Nope
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They're meant to require a BP. Some blueprints don't exist yet, so some things are showing up when they shouldn't be.
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They're meant to require a BP. Some blueprints don't exist yet, so some things are showing up when they shouldn't be.
Supersledge blueprint does exist however. It can be found from a chest.
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Then there's also something else wrong - though I don't know what :P
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lol dude you should have know it was going to get fixed.
How? Am I a clairvoyant?
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How? Am I a clairvoyant?
Pretty clear from a 15+ page thread discussing how overpowered it was tends to point toward a big possibility of a change of some sort.
If you couldn't foreshadow that yourself... then... ::)
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For once, game developers work to bring the playerbase together and force them to work together and interact.
The playerbase's reaction: WHAT? YOU WANT US TO INTERACT, FORM ALLIANCES AND FRIENDSHIPS, AND NOT HAVE TO BE SELF CENTERED ASSHOLES?
My .02, GM's and Dev's are doing something that not many game dev's have the balls to do, and so far it seems like it's working. Except for the few who decide to complain and whine. :P
TL;DR Stop complaining about nerfing loners, in post apocalyptic world, you wouldn't last more than 5 minutes without some friends or companions to help you out. The fact you can actually get pretty far into the game by yourself is good fortune for those loners out there.
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For once, game developers work to bring the playerbase together and force them to work together and interact.
The playerbase's reaction: WHAT? YOU WANT US TO INTERACT, FORM ALLIANCES AND FRIENDSHIPS, AND NOT HAVE TO BE SELF CENTERED ASSHOLES?
My .02, GM's and Dev's are doing something that not many game dev's have the balls to do, and so far it seems like it's working. Except for the few who decide to complain and whine. :P
TL;DR Stop complaining about nerfing loners, in post apocalyptic world, you wouldn't last more than 5 minutes without some friends or companions to help you out. The fact you can actually get pretty far into the game by yourself is good fortune for those loners out there.
Some people like to play alone. Obviously you prefer your computer to real human interaction. I'd just rather not get forced into a sausage party.
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Some people like to play alone. Obviously you prefer your computer to real human interaction. I'd just rather not get forced into a sausage party.
Then for those people who like to play alone, don't complain that you can't get anywhere at all without being part of huge faction, or that huge factions dominate you.
Oh, and really? Personal insults? Classy. 8)
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Then for those people who like to play alone, don't complain that you can't get anywhere at all without being part of huge faction, or that huge factions dominate you.
Oh, and really? Personal insults? Classy. 8)
I haven't even seen a huge faction, most factions aren't pk'ers and are quite nice. Who complained about getting owned by huge factions? I'm not owned by any faction, but I'm sure the faction "owns" all of its members. I'm not a fan of group think or what it does to people.
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I haven't even seen a huge faction, most factions aren't pk'ers and are quite nice. Who complained about getting owned by huge factions? I'm not owned by any faction, but I'm sure the faction "owns" all of its members. I'm not a fan of group think or what it does to people.
A lot of people have been, lately. I've seen a few examples on this thread. Hmm, Gang Wars Facebook, anyone?
You're fine to not want to play in a group, just don't expect to get very far endgame without spending a lot of time, and experiencing many hardships.
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A lot of people have been, lately. I've seen a few examples on this thread. Hmm, Gang Wars Facebook, anyone?
You're fine to not want to play in a group, just don't expect to get very far endgame without spending a lot of time, and experiencing many hardships.
Yeah I would love to see end game content so I could watch it go up in a poof of smoke in the next wipe. I was just running around talking to all the NPCs so I could report incongruities. But its kind of difficult to find bugs when there are no descriptions of how anything is supposed to work in the first place.
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If there's no descriptions, figure it out. :P Really not that hard. I mean, not many games go 'Here's a manual detailing exactly how every single thing works. Turn to page 18459 to find guides on how to get all endgame gear in the least amount of time and how to get to level 24 in 30 seconds.'
Seriously.
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If there's no descriptions, figure it out. :P Really not that hard. I mean, not many games go 'Here's a manual detailing exactly how every single thing works. Turn to page 18459 to find guides on how to get all endgame gear in the least amount of time and how to get to level 24 in 30 seconds.'
Seriously.
Actually most games have a guide detailing how all of its systems work. To get a game published by Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony that is a requirement.
I realize this isn't any of those but "Patch Notes" should thoroughly detail each change. If it doesn't then that is sloppy, and mistakes and fights are inevitable, like the one we are having now.
I can get to level 24 by myself with no problem, getting to level 4 however is slower than the speed of smell and equally as interesting.
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Pretty clear from a 15+ page thread discussing how overpowered it was tends to point toward a big possibility of a change of some sort.
I wonder how did you get into conclusion, that I created and leveled my build AFTER thread was created? Because it's simply wrong, I did it before the thread existed, you ignorant. May it be that my actions in game along others caused the whining thread to open.
So, I ask again:
How? Am I a clairvoyant?
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Actually most games have a guide detailing how all of its systems work. To get a game published by Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony that is a requirement.
I realize this isn't any of those but "Patch Notes" should thoroughly detail each change. If it doesn't then that is sloppy, and mistakes and fights are inevitable, like the one we are having now.
I can get to level 24 by myself with no problem, getting to level 4 however is slower than the speed of smell and equally as interesting.
Not really, they give you the basics. Most manuals that come with games now, are like 2 pages. You can't explain the breakdown of the fire rate, damage per shot to each body area, and etc. of every gun in the game in 2 pages. That would fall under >Detailing how all of it's systems work.
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I wonder how did you get into conclusion, that I created and leveled my build AFTER thread was created?
Where did I say that? Although even without the thread it should've been damn obvious the thing was ovepowered as hell. Again your fault for not thinking ahead.
I did it before the thread existed, you ignorant. May it be that my actions in game along others caused the whining thread to open.
No, you and others may have been the reasons for people to create a thread to discuss the feature, but it was the feature itself that caused the thread to lead up to the point, where it was deemed necessary for change. For a good reason.
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(...) the thing was ovepowered as hell. (...) necessary for change. For a good reason.
That's still a matter of opinion, your truth is not the only truth here ;)
Where did I say that?
That's obvious. By using the 15+ page thread argument, you automatically assumed that I created my build after the thread was created. Because otherwise the argument wouldn't make sense(and it doesn't, since you assumed incorrectly).
But anyway. Everyone can express his opinion, so can I, that's why I made the complaint. The truth is, my time got wasted. What if you had(if you don't) a BG character, and then, let's say, Big Guns skill gets removed? Wouldn't you complain? Because, personally, I think it's a little overpowered comparing to those snipers/plasmers, or especially SG bursters that do no damage at all(30hp bursts, haha).
They could nerf Silent Death bursts. I would be totally for the nerfing, since my character would be still playable - harder, but still fun. Not complete removal of the feature. Never.
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That's still a matter of opinion, your truth is not the only truth here ;)
That's obvious. By using the 15+ page thread argument, you automatically assumed that I created my build after the thread was created. Because otherwise the argument wouldn't make sense(and it doesn't, since you assumed incorrectly).
it makes sense either way, and the way, where you already have lvl 24, is that you should've assumed yourself there was going to be change, and prepared yourself for it. But it's clear you didn't.
But anyway. Everyone can express his opinion, so can I, that's why I made the complaint. The truth is, my time got wasted. What if you had(if you don't) a BG character, and then, let's say, Big Guns skill gets removed? Wouldn't you complain? Because, personally, I think it's a little overpowered comparing to those snipers/plasmers, or especially SG bursters that do no damage at all(30hp bursts, haha).
Didn't say you couldn't express your opinion.
They didn't completely remove anything as well.
They could nerf Silent Death bursts. I would be totally for the nerfing, since my character would be still playable - harder, but still fun. Not complete removal of the feature. Never.
wasn't completely removed. They completely removed the use for bursting (consequently at the moment all guns with the smg sprite) and you can still use pistols, and later on, 223 and 14mm once it gets fixed, which will kick alot of ass still.
Your crying over spilled milk when there's still 3/4 a gallon in the jug.
(even if your a silent death burster build and nothing else 14mm and 223 pistols will more than make up for that, and assuming you have 3x brd, you will have +7 damage! Multiply it by however much from criticals and its a decent boost, and you'll always get crit from back with or without aim. :P
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SD working on smg's was a bug , it got fixed. Deal with it.
http://clip2net.com/s/1yVZ8
I reported that , everyone had a chance to plan ahead and test it , too powerful so i planned ahead. That was very early in CBT.
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it makes sense either way, and the way, where you already have lvl 24, is that you should've assumed yourself there was going to be change, and prepared yourself for it.
The damage was already done. I could just hopelessly play my burster and get all the fun i could before, you know, it became useless.
(even if your a silent death burster build and nothing else 14mm and 223 pistols will more than make up for that, and assuming you have 3x brd, you will have +7 damage! Multiply it by however much from criticals and its a decent boost, and you'll always get crit from back with or without aim. :P
Great.
SD working on smg's was a bug , it got fixed. Deal with it.
I already did. But I'm complaining because I didn't know it was a bug(only few participated in CBT), didn't know it's going to be fixed, made a SD burster. As I said, I have the right to complain.
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The damage was already done. I could just hopelessly play my burster and get all the fun i could before, you know, it became useless.
I don't buy that you couldn't predict the possibility of the nerf.
Choosing to take a novelty build - invisible bluesuit that can do 500+ damage with
cheapest SMG should bell a ring for experienced player like you. You traded the joy
of having OP character for the risk of having it nerfed eventually. It was your choice.
You can always play in a smart way and avoid builds that look borked.
It's a "beta" (more like alpha, but whatever - the point is, it's not finished game).
Changes are part of the development process. And yes, the changes can be painful.
I understand why you are upset, but I think everyone who has been playing for
some time experienced the same thing, many times. Otherwise, how would devs
know that builds aren't balanced properly? ::)
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Yes, yes, you are right, it was overpowered. That's why I said it should be nerfed, but not removed completly(the bursts, don't tell me about single shots please).
Cap the damage? Divide it if it's coming from a burst? Use another critical tables while bursting? All those possibilities.
By the way, 500+ dmg happened very rarely :F That's what professional players remember the most, not taking into account the frequent 60dmg bursts(criticals!) that I remember very well.
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SD was never intended to work with bursts , developers made choice to just fix it , they obviously had their reasons to do that.
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just use your sd bursters to 1hex people with assault rifle :D, and yeh if they fix .223 pistol and 14mm,. i feel they should make the single shot from smg´s work aswell. no reason it should not imo.
the sneak burster is not a dead, you just gotta get within 1hex now to be effective.
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IF you look at this forum, you will see that solar wrote many times that burst working with SD was unintented. So don't tell that you didn't know. And there was a lot threads like "SD bursters are OP" and in each one Solar stated at least once it's a bug. [in this pleace i could put some trolling comment but... neah]
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Waiting for SD fix for pistols with smg animations. I just hope that it wont take too long and will be fixed in this week :).
IF you look at this forum, you will see that solar wrote many times that burst working with SD was unintented. So don't tell that you didn't know. And there was a lot threads like "SD bursters are OP" and in each one Solar stated at least once it's a bug. [in this pleace i could put some trolling comment but... neah]
Not everyone using forums and reading it often. I understand ppls rage if I would took BRD I would be raged too, but Im reading forums from time to time so I dodged that :)
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come on every one knows SD will be nerfted. i killed 720hp enclave with greese gun ;D
when SD are nerfted we can play in NR or other north cities with out worry about...where are you 1k damage ghost
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IF you look at this forum, you will see that solar wrote many times that burst working with SD was unintented. So don't tell that you didn't know. And there was a lot threads like "SD bursters are OP" and in each one Solar stated at least once it's a bug. [in this pleace i could put some trolling comment but... neah]
Haha, how many times I have said I created my character before developers staded anything, eh, this is getting tiresome... Please end this argument. It's irritating that someone doesn't read carefully and joins the conversation.
just use your sd bursters to 1hex people with assault rifle :D, and yeh if they fix .223 pistol and 14mm,. i feel they should make the single shot from smg´s work aswell. no reason it should not imo.
the sneak burster is not a dead, you just gotta get within 1hex now to be effective.
I hope what you're saying about assault rifle is true, because p90 bursts are horrible. Have fun :)
It's still harsh, since if you don't kill this big gunner in your first 1hex burst, you will get annihilated, unless he's lagging, has very bad reflexes or whatever. Also you won't have the time to hide after your move when there's more than one person, so it's pretty much a kamikaze. Still better than nothing :F
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and how did you imagine that? some blue-pijama ninja with greese gun can kill with sinlge burst 290hp heavly armed tank with gatling/avenger with single burst? now it is hard to do it with avenger and you want do it with trash gun and x15 .45 bullets?
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and how did you imagine that? some blue-pijama ninja with greese gun can kill with sinlge burst 290hp heavly armed tank with gatling/avenger with single burst? now it is hard to do it with avenger and you want do it with trash gun and x15 .45 bullets?
I have to repeat myself again, pal
it was overpowered. That's why I said it should be nerfed, but not removed completly(the bursts, don't tell me about single shots please)
And yeah, it even felt like Grease Gun was more powerful than p90