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Author Topic: Fix "Melee damage" (derived stat)  (Read 3006 times)

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Fix "Melee damage" (derived stat)
« on: January 16, 2010, 11:03:34 am »

In Fallout 1 & 2 melee damage does'nt work as it should so instead of adding as many damage to HtH it adds that much only to max damage value (leaving minimal value unchanged)

Unfortunatelly most people got used to this setting but it should be fixed

In other interplay (S.P.E.C.I.A.L.) games it adds the amount to both min. and max. values (F:Tactics, Lionheart) so its a proof that in fallouts Melee damage is bugged

Repairing this would also encourage HtH fighters somewhat
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Re: Fix "Melee damage" (derived stat)
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2010, 11:54:48 am »

In Fallout 1 & 2 melee damage does'nt work as it should so instead of adding as many damage to HtH it adds that much only to max damage value (leaving minimal value unchanged)

Unfortunatelly most people got used to this setting but it should be fixed

In other interplay (S.P.E.C.I.A.L.) games it adds the amount to both min. and max. values (F:Tactics, Lionheart) so its a proof that in fallouts Melee damage is bugged

Repairing this would also encourage HtH fighters somewhat


It strongly facilitates game
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Re: Fix "Melee damage" (derived stat)
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2010, 12:56:35 pm »

I think fixing minimal dmg could do the job - more players playing with Sledges and Battons. Melee is interesting build, but is simply worse than pure unarmed with mega powerfist still, which recieves more dmg per point of ST, per level, per melee % and has MPF.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2010, 01:02:33 pm by Szef »
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Re: Fix "Melee damage" (derived stat)
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2010, 07:01:54 pm »

Quote from: Fallout 2 manual
Melee Damage - This is the amount of damage added to the upper end of hand-to-hand and melee attacks. It is possible to have a Melee Damage of 5 and still do only one point of damage when you attack, based on armor and the fact that this stat adds to the maximum amount of random damage done, not the minimum. If a weapon does 1-4 points of damage (which you can see on the inventory screen), and your character has a Melee Damage of 2, that weapon would do 1-6 points of damage before being modified by the armor of your target.

I think that settles the "bugged" part. Now you can argue about the design only.
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Re: Fix "Melee damage" (derived stat)
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2010, 07:12:25 pm »

tactics was created by other devs... so that could probably mean that it was supposed to be like that, not a bug...?
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Re: Fix "Melee damage" (derived stat)
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2010, 07:17:06 pm »

The "unarmed" weapons are broken aswell. Let's say you have haymaker punch, +7 damage and +15% chance to crit. You put on brass knuckles you lose that bonus, so it lowers your damage by 7 points just equipping it. Must be some crazy kung fu if you do more damage barehanded than with metal spikes on your fist.
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Re: Fix "Melee damage" (derived stat)
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2010, 11:48:50 pm »

The "unarmed" weapons are broken aswell. Let's say you have haymaker punch, +7 damage and +15% chance to crit. You put on brass knuckles you lose that bonus, so it lowers your damage by 7 points just equipping it. Must be some crazy kung fu if you do more damage barehanded than with metal spikes on your fist.

well, thats something i noticed... lol, sorry for misunderstanding.
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