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Friendly Fire.

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Andrew Ryan:

--- Quote from: n00buaddib on September 06, 2010, 09:55:08 PM ---Let's say that got changed so they don't fire launchers and stuff like that when you're next to someone they don't want to kill. What WILL a launcher guy do in that situation?
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Exactly what someone with a grenade launcher would do in real life. Spray and pray and hope you hit more enemies and allies.

Ymeogamaouas:
Seriously?

In real life wars people with flamers fire in the building where their comrades just went in?

Well, okay...

there is a country in the world that allows Helicopters and Jet Fighters to fire missiles on schools, Red Cross vehicles, bridges full of civilians, foreign embassies and even allied troops and all that...

BUT

it is still generally frowned upon and you dont get it as much in modern warzones where it is easy to identify friend from foe.

A guy with grenades and no other weapon in real life WILL NOT throw the grenade between his mate and the enemy when these two guys are wrestling for a gun.

He will use melee or unarmed to hit them.

Thats all I am saying, give NPC's a secondary weapon, either melee or unarmed or a single shot type of gun that they can use instead of laying waste to their own side and to the "innocents" that they are there to protect.

And yes, getting loot from accidental friendly fire kills is "kewl" but is this how the game will be played? PC's waiting like jackals to get gear instead of making it/trading it etch? And we are not talking about just a pistol or SMG here... we are talking serious weaponry.

n00buaddib:
With 80%+ deterioration. Whatever, player made gear (or the one bought at the gunsmith) is still the shit.

Also, you speak of modern battlefields. Fair nuff. While most perceive fonline's year 2238 as 'modern', it's actually not...quite. History didn't quite happen as it did irl and the whole planet was nuked. There are highwaymen roaming everywhere, pretty much everyone you meet in the wastes and their mom wants to kill you and take your stuff...that is not the kind of enviroment where I see supermutants (!!) taking care of who they burn with their flamer. NCR army and whatnot...they just panick and spray whatever the have in the hands blindly.

If you were in a wasteland, with an SMG in your hand, a full clip in it, all your 4 mates around you were dead, would you not burst the last super mutant standing next to you even though an innocent traveler was standing right next to him? (bloody bastard killed us both btw, but I was quite high, made a story out of it in my head and it was one of the coolest things that happened to me in fonline. :D )

Dunno. I still think it's a minor thing.

Ymeogamaouas:
Yes okay for the random traveler lets say I believe that...

How about if all your mates are heavily wounded and next to the Super Mutant bashing at him. The mutant -may- die from a burst but you know your friends -will- die from it.

Would you spray then?

If yes then sure go ahead and keep it that way!

n00buaddib:
This is turning into one of those fluff(story) vs rules (game balance) questions.

I could argue that in the heat of combat, with adrenalin levels so high you don't know or feel half the things that are happening to you, caution is thrown out the window. While sitting in a comfy chair in your room typing stuff, your brain works a bit differently then in the heat of the combat. Still...

I don't really care about happens with this one, I just wanted to point out the situation is not as unlikely as it may seem at first glance. :)

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