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Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« on: August 22, 2010, 02:00:19 pm »

1)Unfortunately, with the multi-account, players do not need to buy from other players, because, thanks to the fact that you can have more accounts, he creates pg crafter to stock up on what they need. Instead, the restriction to a single account, players will trade with each other thus creating a real economy made by the players.

2)Also, we begin to see less unbalanced characters created solely to do pvp. In fact, to due of the multi-account, through the creation of other pg themselves procure their own weapons, armor and drugs. I think this goes against the spirit of rpg which should be based Fallout.
Clearly, there may still do so but, conscious that they can not build themselves equipment, except the initial one, and therefore must depend entirely on the work of others.

I hope that developers take to evaluate my proposal. It would be nice to see a real blossoming trade done only by the players and the end of the bad habits of unbalanced pg.

Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2010, 02:07:37 pm by joshwa »
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2010, 02:05:12 pm »

I can only agree with the points made here. This is the only real way to create an economy that is isn't powered by alts.
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 02:05:58 pm »

I was telling this many times... prepare for flame from those, who think that PvP is only fun in this game... they wont interact with others, they want to have tons of items from their imaginary friends (alts)...
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 02:06:14 pm »

It's never going to work. As seen with current bannings players are ready to go far for slightest advantage. Alts provide massive benefit and if we're just trying to prevent it with restricting accounts it's going to be eternal race between devs and invidual contractors. Playing with single must be encouraged, not enforced.
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2010, 02:07:26 pm »

Do you have any ideas how to make one person in the world use only one account at FOnline?
E-mail: frustrating + you can have more than 1 e-mail.
Forum account: you can have more than 1 forum account, and again it's not comfotable.
Everytime you want create a character you must say it to GM, so he'll create it? Then devs should hire GMs-extrasenses, who can see person sending them PM, so they can understand it's the same person or not.

The only way: GMs extrasenses!

So, my suggestion: find persons who has abilities to see and recognize people at distance with only 1 proof: thier PM.
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2010, 02:10:27 pm »

1 acc that will hold several characters is a good idea. But it will not do anything from what you have written here. It will simply be more comfortable for users and more secure since right now char name=login=poor security. But don't expect any player cooperation or anything as naive as this. Game needs to change for such things to happen and simple acc management will not deliver that.

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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2010, 02:18:47 pm »

For technical reasons, there is no way for an online game to disable alting.

Can people remember this?
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2010, 02:32:31 pm »

There should be register-system like in Ultima Online fanmade servers.
You fill registeration form and send it to guy who check you information and let you play.

And of course there need guys who check every second mails.
Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2010, 02:34:24 pm »

For technical reasons, there is no way for an online game to disable alting.

Can people remember this?
Well, gathering from the 100 threads that are 1:1 like this, i guess people never fucking get it...
Besides, i get bored playing one char fast, so i have nice collection of many different chars.
I dont really some people have such a hate for alts...
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2010, 02:36:35 pm »

Playing with single must be encouraged, not enforced.

I totally second that.
Because any enforcement would just drive the wedge deeper between players and developers and player base is already frustrated enough.

There's no way do disable alting for sure, only to limit it with draconical methods.

But, let's come to a point.
Who are you, joshwa, to disapprove alting and how long are you playing this game already?

If you disable alts for sure, you will be FORCED to SEARCH for players willing to sell the equipment. How much time will you spend on this task, before you can play? Minutes? Hours? THE WHOLE DAY? Crafting is already a tedious task and for that, it's a natural consequence that players create alts.
Or do you propose to spend all the free time on HARD VIRTUAL WORK, only to play for mere minutes?

Haha! No thanks.
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2010, 02:43:39 pm »

Besides, i get bored playing one char fast, so i have nice collection of many different chars.

That's not the matter of chars being boring but game lacking content for them. There's only limited ammount of content for big gunner, smallgunner, crafter, slaver etc but somewhat content in trying differend chars. And that's bad in sense of rpg purposes because we're supposed to become fond of our chars, I guess.
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2010, 02:57:11 pm »

I like the mono account suggestion, is a better way to have a more realistic sandbox game, yes because Fallout games are sandbox, not only pvp shotter games.

Mono account can produce the following changes :

1) more balanced builds, who want to make a power build pvp character have to face with the fact that can't have a crafter, so have to trading with other players that have a crafter to buy good gears, with less pro-pvp builds the combat is more realistic.

2) Factions need more work for join people of different classes, if they want grow strong and have armours/weapons/docs, this fact encourages a relationship between factions that have different classes to exchange everything can be usefull,  is ridiculous to have factions with a bunch of pro-pvp characters with alts crafters.

3) less pks and thieves, how many of you have a pk or thief alts?  with mono account, only who really want to make this type of game, can playing in this way.

4) More realistic economy system, with trade between people, you need something? ok find a person for craft it or a trader for buy it,  is not funny to make all yourself with alts, this is a mmorpg, not a single player game.

I really hope developers evaluate this suggestion, and make it real.  :)
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2010, 03:10:30 pm »

This suggestion will make alts uselless.

This suggestion will make PvP useless and boring.

This suggestion will make many kind of Combat Characters useless.

This suggestion will bring more waiting to crafting.

Sorry, but again, its stupid idea, fix alting in this way ...
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2010, 03:20:10 pm »

Well, gathering from the 100 threads that are 1:1 like this, i guess people never fucking get it...
Besides, i get bored playing one char fast, so i have nice collection of many different chars.
I dont really some people have such a hate for alts...

I'm going to have to agree with this actually. I don't see anything wrong with playing the game from multiple angles, in fact it seems only natural that it would happen after a while. Playing and having alts is not and should not be trumpeted as a problem or you're basically condemning players for playing - some people like to experience the game in as many ways as possible in fact it's arguably the only reason some online games do as well as they do. The exploitation of alts is the trouble, it seems, and that should be the focus. Or, alternatively you could do what WoW did and embrace it to a limited extent because they accepted it would happen.

The point is it's possible to have a successful economy AND have alts. Actually you could argue there's a very strong economy in spite of the alt crisis everyone seems to go on about. Ammunition and drugs sell very very well and consistently and are a staple trade item - which makes sense actually as in an end of the world situation Food, Medicine, and Weapons would be the priorities for human survival.

If anything needs to be fixed it's the time consumption of crafting (largely a user interface problem - click>fix>done x 30 or so) as well as overall decreasing the requisites of crafting, lets face it you can't make an effective PvP fighter AND a crafter in the same character the stat spread would be too wide and yet you need both to PvP consistently. And perhaps the effectiveness of combat drugs so that the difference in performance between a "Combat character" and a "Crafter" or "Doctor" or whatever becomes a little less pronounced - those things alone would see less need for making basically a crafting mule. It might even see crafters and such in PvP (!) of all things, if the gulf between their effectiveness wasn't so great.
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Re: Limited to only one account for two excellent reasons
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2010, 03:20:45 pm »

This suggestion will make alts uselless.

This suggestion will make PvP useless and boring.

This suggestion will make many kind of Combat Characters useless.

This suggestion will bring more waiting to crafting.

Sorry, but again, its stupid idea, fix alting in this way ...


This is an open beta, in release with a wipe, this suggestion can be applied without problems.
pvp boring? why? you need pro-character to have fun? explain why the pvp is boring with balcanced builds.
Crafting is the key to gain more advantage, if you want to become the most powerfull you have to work hard, isn't a hard world??? or this is only when someone die with a pk and lose her stuff? 
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