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Pandemon:

--- Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2010, 01:56:18 PM ---2. It allows a new class of people to be created. (Well, its not new, its just rare/non existant in PvP).
Bursters/Single Shotters/Snipers

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New class of people to be created? Burster? It exist, and with removing fast shot they will dissapear at all.
Single Shotters? What's good in it? Nothing if shots aren't aimed and you want them no aimed. Snipers? They exist and prospere very well atm. and removing fast shot wont help in increasing their count.

Nexxos:

--- Quote from: RavenousRat on August 19, 2010, 01:52:51 PM ---I mean in TB you can use 14mm pistol as 14mm SMG with fast shot and BRoF, shooting 2 AP per shot, making it single-shot-like burst so every bullet hits target not fly in cone, so its the same if you burst in point blank from 14mm SMG.
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What the hell man?

RavenousRat:

--- Quote from: NexxosFIN on August 19, 2010, 02:01:54 PM ---
What the hell man?

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It's 14mm Pistol in TB with fast shot and BRoF.
In TB you can shoot entire clip from 14mm pistol with fast shot and BRoF, shooting bullets one by one means all will hit target (exclude misses with 95%...), because it's not burst.
In RT it'll consume alot time till animation after each shot, so you'll be able to shoot only once may be twice, till "target will be blocked" or you're dead already.
So it's TB-only build.

Floodnik:
Fast Shot won't work for any burst mode, doesn't matter if it's SG or BG. Bursts will cost 1 AP more from now :< And I made a clean BG sneaker who does 2 bursts in a row, now it will be not possible(well, if i took 2 action boys... but waste of perks) :<
And these SG bursters who did 3 bursts in a row with 9 AP now could make only 2, they would have to get 12 AP to make 3.

Solar:
Add LA for +5 damage to each shot, applied after armour is worked out. For a pistol its a certain 25 extra damage over 10 AP, even a mauser shooting BA.

With decreasing the "Alpha strike" of things like Avengers (capable of opening up with 2 shots instead of 3) the consistent damage of this type of build is given more of a chance. Especially when it gets boosted.


--- Quote from: Pandemon on August 19, 2010, 01:59:17 PM ---New class of people to be created? Burster? It exist, and with removing fast shot they will dissapear at all.
Single Shotters? What's good in it? Nothing if shots aren't aimed and you want them no aimed. Snipers? They exist and prospere very well atm. and removing fast shot wont help in increasing their count.

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 ::)


--- Quote from: Floodnik on August 19, 2010, 02:10:05 PM ---Fast Shot won't work for any burst mode, doesn't matter if it's SG or BG. Bursts will cost 1 AP more from now :< And I made a clean BG sneaker who does 2 bursts in a row, now it will be not possible(well, if i took 2 action boys... but waste of perks) :<
And these SG bursters who did 3 bursts in a row with 9 AP now could make only 2, they would have to get 12 AP to make 3.

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Ah yes, this is not a coincidence ;)

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