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Surf:
It's already easy enough if you compare it to previous versions.
It's not the games fault if people don't read manuals or guides before they start to play.

Quentin Lang:
I agree and disagree.

They DONT have to make the game itself more new-player-friendly. No adding of ridiculous new player zones or new player protection (shield of invulnerability, lol) or anything like it. The gameplay itself must remain as difficult as it is, not get easyer.
BUT, they should make some kind of easy, fast, basic step tutorial in-game. Reading wiki is tiresome and new players should use it only when really needed. Now, theres been that contest of player guides and stuff. The devs could atleast modify the game start so that when a player creates char, a window pops up with opportunity to open link in web browser to the winner guide of that contest. Its true that many people start playing the game witouth even knowing about forum like this and not knowing they can find guides like that.

Avoral:

--- Quote from: shanecody on July 11, 2010, 10:47:34 pm ---I have just started playing and I can say that after a couple of hours ? I am greatly disappointed.  It seems to me that the game is to hard to get started, who wants to play a game that they can't do anything when they start the game?

Why is there no starting newbie area? or at least some equipment when you start?

I like the fact the the wasteland is tough, but it needs not be so tough that you cant figure out whats going on without dying every five seconds.

even the fallout games are easy enough to start


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Im reading it and dont know... laught at you or just cry about player "will to rise". Game is hard, new players often dies and guess what? sometimes they stay for longer becouse "fuck yea now i got 800 caps in bank and im rich" - for some people it is funny but imo it is that part of gameplay that should be seen. If you are new that mean YOU must learn how to play, not change the game becouse it would fit your desires.

I hate such posts as "its to hard" "i die to often" "i lost my alll day earinigns" - wtf? Each time i see such bullshit i think about tibia or some hack and slash game type... You dont know how to play? ASK PEOPLE IN GAME - and stop dreaming that you will be 1 man ultimate army.

Man im angry...

Nice_Boat:

--- Quote from: Avoral on July 13, 2010, 08:02:33 pm ---stop dreaming that you will be 1 man ultimate army.

Man im angry...

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Accidentally, there are a few people who are just that - and I find it EXTREMELY ironic that they're the exact opposite of the wannabies you see around here. Basically, they don't give a flying fuck about the forums, never bitch and moan but always think about improving their game, experiment with new builds or ways of getting stuff. All the successful players I know basically started hard and learned how to do stuff in this game by themselves. Personally, I think that this beginning was the best part of the game - I mean, faction wars are interesting etc., but the experience of being a simple dude trying to make a living and then later on building a top tier gang from scratch is simply the most awesome thing this game has to offer. Taking that harshness away would simply kill all that joy and the atmosphere for me. I mean, back when I started the Hub and the NCR were like the worst ghetto areas of African cities, with people choosing to live elsewhere because of the poverty, killing and theft. It was a truely post-apo experience. Right now NCR feels more like a generic, fairly normal town with some ethnic tensions going on (the occasional suicide bombing or assasination)... some magic was clearly lost in transition.

And I agree, some threads on this forum tend to make a man angry like that ::)

Sashi:
*facepalm* Why do these threads exist...
I'll say the same thing I said in another thread.

I had to work hard to get where I am and all the other high level characters went through the same shit you're going through. We didn't get handouts from GM's and changes to the game engine. Read the wiki (THIS IS IMPORTANT), ask people where safe travel routes are and just use common sense. As far as starting goods, you start out with enough junk to get a fair amount of caps, you just need to bargain with the right shopkeeper. There are NPC's that will give you weapons, armor, caps, and chems if you do something for them.

The rest is up to you, if you can't figure out something so easy as talking to an NPC, then you will get nowhere.


P.S. The Fallout games are easy to start because you are not playing with other people you are playing with a computer and are automatically incorporated in to the story.

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